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[QUOTE=HornKnee;6945475]Yeah, I've always thought the clubs had a reduced chance of trouble. Maybe I'm just a scaredy cat, but there's no way on earth I'd chose a motel over the club. I've been robbed by a chick moving goalposts a couple times and took it on the chin, but at least that beats a real robbery.[/QUOTE]100% agree.
Does anyone know what happened to Kenzie that floated between BT's and LS I think?
Made the day shift at Landing Strip. First time. Kendal had nice personality, but no BBBJ and wasn't enthralled with her look. Rose was cute but got angry when enquiring about BBBJ. Decided to move to SC, where I'd previously had luck.
SC wasn't hopping, but Dream was very cute spinner and did good pole work. No BBBJ, but 1. 5 for FS, all covered. She was sweet, possibly high, but service and attitude was excellent.
Any idea if the clubs will be open next week with July 4th?
[QUOTE=Rentz2;6946151]Any idea if the clubs will be open next week with July 4th?[/QUOTE]Should be, think they are only closed Christmas, thanksgiving and new year's day.
[QUOTE=DooMama7;6946165]Should be, think they are only closed Christmas, thanksgiving and new year's day.[/QUOTE]They are closed labor day too LOL. Which is why I was curious and thinking they might not be open
[QUOTE=Rentz2;6946275]They are closed labor day too LOL. Which is why I was curious and thinking they might not be open[/QUOTE]Have you tried calling them? They have their phone numbers posted on Google.
[QUOTE=SamPerkins420;6945325]Why are you focused on getting a girl back to a hotel? They suck, fuck and anything else you'll pay for right in the club VIP.
Here's my two cents: I think it is important to keep the girl's perspective in mind. First of all, they're there to work and like most people just want to go home or do something else after work. Why should a girl go offsite to spend a few hours with you to make a couple hundred bucks, when they can do that while at work?
They are also protected in the club as there are bouncers and VIP areas always only have one way in / out, which reduces the chances of something bad or dangerous happening to them. How does some girl you just met know that you aren't going to roofie her in a motel room? How does she know you won't have ten guys enter the room and try to assault her? Etc.
If your value prop to the girl is, come to my motel room and party, well they already party at the club. At work they drink & vape all day, plenty step outside their club to smoke weed, and many of them are doing coke or even harder drugs in the locker rooms.
And finally, you should keep your own safety in mind too. Getting a girl to agree to meet you in a motel also removes any protection YOU may have by just fucking them in a club. Even if a girl has a pimp / handler watching over her in the club (which many do), you have no risk that he's going to bust into your VIP booth with a gun and hold you up. Go to a sketchy motel and things like that are possible.[/QUOTE]Frankly being newer to clubs, I thought it was more common, but this makes a lot of sense and I appreciate your feedback. Don't want to make anyone feel unsafe or end up in a weird situation myself. Appreciate ya, going to be keeping things at the club LOL.
[QUOTE=FpReally2;6945795]Had a quick visit to silver cricket recently and it was worth it.
Taylor is grrat. A cool blonde mammande titties with reasonable rates. Enjoy.
Drama free and enjoys what she does[/QUOTE]Days or nights?
[QUOTE=SamPerkins420;6945325]Why are you focused on getting a girl back to a hotel? They suck, fuck and anything else you'll pay for right in the club VIP.
Here's my two cents: I think it is important to keep the girl's perspective in mind. First of all, they're there to work and like most people just want to go home or do something else after work. Why should a girl go offsite to spend a few hours with you to make a couple hundred bucks, when they can do that while at work?
They are also protected in the club as there are bouncers and VIP areas always only have one way in / out, which reduces the chances of something bad or dangerous happening to them. How does some girl you just met know that you aren't going to roofie her in a motel room? How does she know you won't have ten guys enter the room and try to assault her? Etc.
If your value prop to the girl is, come to my motel room and party, well they already party at the club. At work they drink & vape all day, plenty step outside their club to smoke weed, and many of them are doing coke or even harder drugs in the locker rooms.
And finally, you should keep your own safety in mind too. Getting a girl to agree to meet you in a motel also removes any protection YOU may have by just fucking them in a club. Even if a girl has a pimp / handler watching over her in the club (which many do), you have no risk that he's going to bust into your VIP booth with a gun and hold you up. Go to a sketchy motel and things like that are possible.[/QUOTE]I can see it both ways for both parties, but you make a lot of valid points on the negative side.
[U]Pros for the customer:[/U]
More, and more comfortable, space for activities, which could allow for more or different activities.
Not feeling like you're on the clock or have competition.
Privacy.
You control the environment (lighting, music & volume, temperature, etc.).
Could better allow for something more like a GFE.
[U]Cons for the customer:[/U]
Cost.
Investment (number of visits, amount of time & cost) to earn the dancer's trust.
Logistics (adding more steps to the process where things could break down).
Risk (as outlined in the quoted post, not to mention LE) and no recourse if things go wrong.
You either need a burner or your contact info, which can lead to trouble.
[U]Pros for the dancer:[/U]
No house fee / bouncers to tip -- all the money goes in your pocket.
More opportunity for different, and possibly more profitable, activities.
Opportunity to up the price due to risks.
Maybe even some comfort considerations like those for the customer.
[U]Cons for the dancer:[/U]
Way more risk with no recourse if things go wrong -- like, life-in-danger risk.
Possibility of getting fired from the club or on the wrong page with other dancers.
Logistics.
You either need to give a burner or your contact info, which can lead to trouble.
I pulled it off once. Two dancers who came over together. Not cheap, plus one wasn't really down for what I was hoping for. Still a once-in-a-lifetime memorable experience that I will hopefully remember as I'm on my deathbed. But I had also seen them before and spent time with them to earn trust. I also give off kinda harmless dad vibes generally, which probably played into why they thought it was OK.
Yeah, a lot of the time, you can get what you want in the club. If you've got a bit of a soft spot like me and like a little GFE, then shooting for getting her back to your room is understandable. But know you'll fail far more times than you'll succeed and you'll pay if you can make it happen.
[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6946678]I can see it both ways for both parties, but you make a lot of valid points on the negative side.
[U]Pros for the customer:[/U]
More, and more comfortable, space for activities, which could allow for more or different activities.
Not feeling like you're on the clock or have competition.
Privacy.
You control the environment (lighting, music & volume, temperature, etc.).
Could better allow for something more like a GFE.
[U]Cons for the customer:[/U]
Cost.
Investment (number of visits, amount of time & cost) to earn the dancer's trust.
Logistics (adding more steps to the process where things could break down).
Risk (as outlined in the quoted post, not to mention LE) and no recourse if things go wrong.
You either need a burner or your contact info, which can lead to trouble.
[U]Pros for the dancer:[/U]
No house fee / bouncers to tip -- all the money goes in your pocket.
More opportunity for different, and possibly more profitable, activities.
Opportunity to up the price due to risks.
Maybe even some comfort considerations like those for the customer.
[U]Cons for the dancer:[/U]
Way more risk with no recourse if things go wrong -- like, life-in-danger risk.
Possibility of getting fired from the club or on the wrong page with other dancers.
Logistics.
You either need to give a burner or your contact info, which can lead to trouble.
I pulled it off once. Two dancers who came over together. Not cheap, plus one wasn't really down for what I was hoping for. Still a once-in-a-lifetime memorable experience that I will hopefully remember as I'm on my deathbed. But I had also seen them before and spent time with them to earn trust. I also give off kinda harmless dad vibes generally, which probably played into why they thought it was OK.
Yeah, a lot of the time, you can get what you want in the club. If you've got a bit of a soft spot like me and like a little GFE, then shooting for getting her back to your room is understandable. But know you'll fail far more times than you'll succeed and you'll pay if you can make it happen.[/QUOTE]The part about risk is overblown IMHO. You guys realize that every day thousands of guys meet escorts in hotels, and the vast, vast, vast majority of the time nothing bad happens, right? This is no different. You just got to stay alert and not be an idiot and be ready to bail if something seems off. Of course, it helps if you're not seeing drug-addicted providers in the seediest of motels. But in general, it's not so scary, especially if you are the one choosing the venue and therefore can control the environment. I guess for me, the question is: If you're going to meet a sex worker in a hotel, why bother trying to cajole a stripper into it instead of just hiring a ho whose natural habitat is hotels?
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;6946855]The part about risk is overblown IMHO. You guys realize that every day thousands of guys meet escorts in hotels, and the vast, vast, vast majority of the time nothing bad happens, right? This is no different. You just got to stay alert and not be an idiot and be ready to bail if something seems off. Of course, it helps if you're not seeing drug-addicted providers in the seediest of motels. But in general, it's not so scary, especially if you are the one choosing the venue and therefore can control the environment. I guess for me, the question is: If you're going to meet a sex worker in a hotel, why bother trying to cajole a stripper into it instead of just hiring a ho whose natural habitat is hotels?[/QUOTE]Simple answers:
1. You get to see the merchandise before you buy.
2. The "stripper type. ".
The first is the big one. The runaround you have to go through with an escort to check reviews, swim through fake profiles, make sure you're not being lured into LE's arms (not so much in Detroit but elsewhere), etc. , can be really annoying. Girls from clubs, you see the actual girl, on stage or walking around, before you buy. You can talk to her or even try her out for a few songs and figure out if she's a live wire or a dead fish. Escorts, even reviews can fool you.
The second is a little more subtle. The stripper type is more apt to not be mechanical. A lot of the time, she's got to get on stage and dance, flirt and have some charm to make money. Some of us like that. A lot of straight-up escorts end up being dead fish when push comes to shove.
I've tried the escort thing. Often, I dig through so many fake profiles, bad reviews and jacked-up prices among what's available that I just end up saying, "Fuck it, I'll go to the club. ".
Thing is, though, the stripper girls are used to working in the club, where they have a steady stream of guys (and income) coming in, bouncers there if something goes wrong, and so on. So they're not as apt to want to risk any of that.
Decided to check out the day shift today.
BT's was just a ton of Cubans who all took turns coming over and asking if I wanted company. Wasn't feeling it so I moved on to Landing Strip.
So, the past few times I've been there there's been an absolute knockout, Jenna, but she never made her way over to me and I'm not big on reaching out. That changed today, she stopped by and man, I overpaid (4) but I have to say it was worth it. Absolutely stunning, 100% my type. No rush, took my time and was out of breath when we were done. Whew.
I'm sure I could have talked her down but the little' man in charge had been wanting to hang with her for a while. Might go back and see what her normal charge is now that the seal is broken, but I'm not really regretting it.
It has been over a year since I hit a club. I decided on Criket and was saddened by the poor quality of girls. There was one who was very attractive though. I didn't get her name but she looked like a version of Leana Lovings but thinner and with a better ass. Short dark hair with glasses that gave her a kindof school girl look. A guy eating lunch went to tip her so I didn't bother. When she came off stage she went to the bar with another girl and just sat. A different guy approached her and said something but she didn't move. So, I gues her pussy was just too precious to be touched. The rest of the crew was 30-50 pounds away from being considered.
H8 - this was my first visit Henry's. I've only heard stories. I can't believe people go there. The "waitress" was an old lady who was dressed to go to Walmart and then the monster truck show. It was as if I was in a bar in the Appalachians and the Whitkers lived around the corner. One thin straight hared blonde started approaching and thought she might have some promise. But when she was a few feet away I could see the baby damage and scars and leathery skin. I had one drink and looked at the freak show and left.
Disappointing return from retirement.
[QUOTE=DarkTraveler;6944576]I have a large lineup of regulars who come to my place or hotel on short notice, but I vetted them carefully over time in the club and social media. Every girl will say she doesn't have a social, just tell them you don't give out your number and they will magically remember they have a very active instagram account. They are all on insta and follow each other. Just tell them that is the only way you will message them. If you are a regular they are going to want a way to get ahold of you on slow days.
Everyone EXCEPT the cubans will do OTC as they do not have to pay the club fees to make a quick buck. You will want to establish report with extras inside the club to set the bar for service.[/QUOTE]This is the way.
[QUOTE=Escentia;6941336]I went there a little over a year ago and it was a great time. I know it's not necessarily an extras club, but I've heard some success stories. Even if not, does anyone knows what goes on in their VIP rooms. Without extras? One dancer offered a VIP visit for 3 Benjamins but I declined, and didn't even ask about extras. Either way, I think it'd be fun to go on a "wild goose chase" for extras there haha.[/QUOTE]Had a great time a few months back with a Cuban over there. Nice large rooms, FS, XX5 but a. 5 cover. Room had attached bath with shower.
[QUOTE=Escentia;6941336]I went there a little over a year ago and it was a great time. I know it's not necessarily an extras club, but I've heard some success stories. Even if not, does anyone knows what goes on in their VIP rooms. Without extras? One dancer offered a VIP visit for 3 Benjamins but I declined, and didn't even ask about extras. Either way, I think it'd be fun to go on a "wild goose chase" for extras there haha.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Woodenshoe;6947805]Had a great time a few months back with a Cuban over there. Nice large rooms, FS, XX5 but a. 5 cover. Room had attached bath with shower.[/QUOTE]This is very interesting.
Anybody else been here.
[QUOTE=TomSmith26;6948389]This is very interesting.
Anybody else been here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Woodenshoe;6947805]Had a great time a few months back with a Cuban over there. Nice large rooms, FS, XX5 but a. 5 cover. Room had attached bath with shower.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Escentia;6941336]I went there a little over a year ago and it was a great time. I know it's not necessarily an extras club, but I've heard some success stories. Even if not, does anyone knows what goes on in their VIP rooms. Without extras? One dancer offered a VIP visit for 3 Benjamins but I declined, and didn't even ask about extras. Either way, I think it'd be fun to go on a "wild goose chase" for extras there haha.[/QUOTE]I know a Young Lady who used to work at Dream Girls.
Yes, EXTRA's can be had, but as she stated, you will need to put in a lot of work for that type of service and I will NOT be Cheap.
For those who have the Time, Have Fun.
Annabella still work at Bogart's? Lost contact with her and haven't been to detroit in a couple of months. Annabella is closer to 50, big ass tits, long blonde hair.
[QUOTE=DooMama7;6948422]Annabella still work at Bogart's? Lost contact with her and haven't been to detroit in a couple of months. Annabella is closer to 50, big ass tits, long blonde hair.[/QUOTE]I don't do day shift often but I usually see her around when I do. Last time was probably just a couple weeks ago.
[QUOTE=Woodenshoe;6947805]Had a great time a few months back with a Cuban over there. Nice large rooms, FS, XX5 but a. 5 cover. Room had attached bath with shower.[/QUOTE]A Detroit club has special private rooms. How do you get them and is there a bed like feature.
[QUOTE=DooMama7;6948422]Annabella still work at Bogart's? Lost contact with her and haven't been to detroit in a couple of months. Annabella is closer to 50, big ass tits, long blonde hair.[/QUOTE]Yes she is still there and better than ever!
[QUOTE=Wiggles0923;6948641]A Detroit club has special private rooms. How do you get them and is there a bed like feature.[/QUOTE]I don't think they advertise it, but Coli has their "Sky Box". It's a hundred bones to go up there, not counting what you have to pay for the girl plus I think you have to purchase a bottle as well. I don't have deep enough pockets, maybe someday.
So Monday I went to LS, I had some free time after work. I parked behind the bank Because fuck valet. So I walk in and get stopped by the 2 dudes behind the counter asking "How did you get here? I say Uber and the ask to check my phone and won't let me go upstairs without seeing my phone. I make up a Lie real quick and just pay the Valet to be done with it. I get my service from Mandy, Really cool Girl 300 $, all Covered. So I leave and they follow me out and around the corner watching me, I turn around to check because I got that weird sense I was being watched and there they are staring at me. Mind you I'm already a block away and they're still staring, I wave to them, get in my car and drive past them on my way out.
I don't like valet because I see it as an invasion of my privacy, and that experience didn't help. I most likely will never go back there.
[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;6948654]Yes she is still there and better than ever![/QUOTE]Have seen her there, but never considered going to VIP with her. Is she "any good" GFE type? Thanks for details.
Has anyone seen Alexis from Bogarts? Searched the name, unless it's a different spelling, and nothing? Beautiful girl, amazing body, I did a couple dances only with her, was thinking about "extras" on the next visit? Anyone actually partaken with her and have a tale to tell? Thanks.
I will be in the area during July 4th weekend this year and was wondering how the clubs are on July 3rd and 4th. Are they sparse or overcrowded? In other words should I wait until Friday or Saturday.
[QUOTE=JesusChrisChan;6950868]So Monday I went to LS, I had some free time after work. I parked behind the bank Because fuck valet. So I walk in and get stopped by the 2 dudes behind the counter asking "How did you get here? I say Uber and the ask to check my phone and won't let me go upstairs without seeing my phone. I make up a Lie real quick and just pay the Valet to be done with it. I get my service from Mandy, Really cool Girl 300 $, all Covered. So I leave and they follow me out and around the corner watching me, I turn around to check because I got that weird sense I was being watched and there they are staring at me. Mind you I'm already a block away and they're still staring, I wave to them, get in my car and drive past them on my way out.
I don't like valet because I see it as an invasion of my privacy, and that experience didn't help. I most likely will never go back there.[/QUOTE]I'm not a huge fan of valet either but I do just consider it an added cost for my nights out. If I'm spending $300+ on drinks and extras, an extra $10 doesn't really phase me. And those aren't really areas I like leaving my car unattended anyway.
I do bring an extra key though because I've heard stories of them not giving you your keys back if there's a perceived problem between you and a girl. I've never had any issues though.
[QUOTE=JesusChrisChan;6950868]So Monday I went to LS, I had some free time after work. I parked behind the bank Because fuck valet. So I walk in and get stopped by the 2 dudes behind the counter asking "How did you get here? I say Uber and the ask to check my phone and won't let me go upstairs without seeing my phone. I make up a Lie real quick and just pay the Valet to be done with it. I get my service from Mandy, Really cool Girl 300 $, all Covered. So I leave and they follow me out and around the corner watching me, I turn around to check because I got that weird sense I was being watched and there they are staring at me. Mind you I'm already a block away and they're still staring, I wave to them, get in my car and drive past them on my way out.
I don't like valet because I see it as an invasion of my privacy, and that experience didn't help. I most likely will never go back there.[/QUOTE]I don't like valet because I don't like not being in control of my ride. You paid the valet, and they're still not satisfied. So why aren't they satisfied getting the money (and doing no work)? They want to have control of your vehicle. If you get in a dispute with a dancer over how much money you owe her, they can hold your car hostage until you pay up. Customers are easy to replace, dancers are hard to replace. The bar will always side with the dancer.
[QUOTE=JesusChrisChan;6950868]So Monday I went to LS, I had some free time after work. I parked behind the bank Because fuck valet. So I walk in and get stopped by the 2 dudes behind the counter asking "How did you get here? I say Uber and the ask to check my phone and won't let me go upstairs without seeing my phone. I make up a Lie real quick and just pay the Valet to be done with it. I get my service from Mandy, Really cool Girl 300 $, all Covered. So I leave and they follow me out and around the corner watching me, I turn around to check because I got that weird sense I was being watched and there they are staring at me. Mind you I'm already a block away and they're still staring, I wave to them, get in my car and drive past them on my way out.
I don't like valet because I see it as an invasion of my privacy, and that experience didn't help. I most likely will never go back there.[/QUOTE]Same here. I don't go to any clubs that require valet. I'd even pay the fee, as long as I could park it myself and not gives up the keys. That's too bad for the clubs, because Subi's isn't far from my house and LS, while further, would have me as a customer too.
As far as that bullshit of wanting to see your phone as proof that you Uber'd, fuck that. That's an even bigger invasion of privacy than valet.
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;6951722]
As far as that bullshit of wanting to see your phone as proof that you Uber'd, fuck that. That's an even bigger invasion of privacy that valet.[/QUOTE]Next time say your wife or daughter dropped you off on the way to her doctors appointment.
[QUOTE=NorinRad;6950946]Have seen her there, but never considered going to VIP with her. Is she "any good" GFE type? Thanks for details.[/QUOTE]She's personable, not business like at all. Raw everything and is affordable (150).
[QUOTE=TimeTwist;6951346]I will be in the area during July 4th weekend this year and was wondering how the clubs are on July 3rd and 4th. Are they sparse or overcrowded? In other words should I wait until Friday or Saturday.[/QUOTE]Just went yesterday, all the clubs were SLOW and sparse of patrons and dancers, I would wait until next week.
Came up from OH to see how it would be yesterday and that was a mistake. HVIII, Bogie's and SC were DEAD. Went to HVIII and got with Nicole (lost weight, blonde hair and is obviously on drugs) but she gave me great service for oral. Went to SC during the day and there were too many cubans for my taste, night shift was eh, but I met with mocha. Nice chocolate thing, great head and great FS (CG and doggy).
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;6946966]Decided to check out the day shift today.
BT's was just a ton of Cubans who all took turns coming over and asking if I wanted company. Wasn't feeling it so I moved on to Landing Strip.
So, the past few times I've been there there's been an absolute knockout, Jenna, but she never made her way over to me and I'm not big on reaching out. That changed today, she stopped by and man, I overpaid (4) but I have to say it was worth it. Absolutely stunning, 100% my type. No rush, took my time and was out of breath when we were done. Whew.
I'm sure I could have talked her down but the little' man in charge had been wanting to hang with her for a while. Might go back and see what her normal charge is now that the seal is broken, but I'm not really regretting it.[/QUOTE]At Degasa9976.
Typically, the LS is around $250-$300 for some top-notch talent. So, I wouldn't fret paying the $400 if you enjoyed yourself, and that's all that matters. In her eyes, you will the man going forward. When you walk into the club, she should more than likely dump anyone else she is sitting with and make a bee-line over to you. That is all fine, unless you begin to get tired of seeing her. Then you need to work it out between yourselves. Again, in the long run, what's a $100 or so if you enjoyed your time together.
[QUOTE=DooMama7;6951818]Just went yesterday, all the clubs were SLOW and sparse of patrons and dancers, I would wait until next week.[/QUOTE]My ATF just called and wants to hook up sometime over the long holiday weekend, because she said this weekend sucks as far as working in the clubs. She has been at it over 10 years now.
Good Luck this weekend. On the bright side you may find a diamond in the rough, just getting started, and can have a hell of a time all weekend long.
[QUOTE=JesusChrisChan;6950868]So Monday I went to LS, I had some free time after work. I parked behind the bank Because fuck valet. So I walk in and get stopped by the 2 dudes behind the counter asking "How did you get here? I say Uber and the ask to check my phone and won't let me go upstairs without seeing my phone. I make up a Lie real quick and just pay the Valet to be done with it. I get my service from Mandy, Really cool Girl 300 $, all Covered. So I leave and they follow me out and around the corner watching me, I turn around to check because I got that weird sense I was being watched and there they are staring at me. Mind you I'm already a block away and they're still staring, I wave to them, get in my car and drive past them on my way out.
I don't like valet because I see it as an invasion of my privacy, and that experience didn't help. I most likely will never go back there.[/QUOTE]I hate letting anyone drive my Yugo. Kidding aside, good for you for not backing down. Also, I don't drive a Yugo and if I did I still wouldn't let them drive it.
Anybody know where to get some cheap extras from sexy thick chicks. I need to bust a quick one and don't want to break the bank. Any suggestions.
[QUOTE=BigMonger02;6953109]Anybody know where to get some cheap extras from sexy thick chicks. I need to bust a quick one and don't want to break the bank. Any suggestions.[/QUOTE]It sounds like Henry VIII, the Dollar Store of strip clubs. Last time I was there, a black girl weighing in (I'm guessing) at around 250, but solid, was in and out of the back room consistently. I didn't go back with her, so I don't know what's on offer, but most of those girls don't say no to much.
[QUOTE=BigMonger02;6953109]Anybody know where to get some cheap extras from sexy thick chicks. I need to bust a quick one and don't want to break the bank. Any suggestions.[/QUOTE]H8 is the place to go for what your asking for except if you are a "big" monger and you want a thick chick then you might not both fit inside the VIP room at H8.