[QUOTE=JaunDmarco;1384881]Why didn't you just ask for her I. D. First?[/QUOTE]I was so scared after seeing her because of all the previous LEO stories involving minors. As it is I am paranoid and did not want to take that risk.
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[QUOTE=JaunDmarco;1384881]Why didn't you just ask for her I. D. First?[/QUOTE]I was so scared after seeing her because of all the previous LEO stories involving minors. As it is I am paranoid and did not want to take that risk.
[QUOTE=John Wise; 1385547]Bubbles pimp (yes she has a pimp, that's who she loves not you) makes her fuck 15 to 20 guys a night (do the math) that's $1500 to $2000 a night. So why would "he" take a loss on all that money just because you want to play house?
Again, she has a pimp. Get you head out of your ass.[/QUOTE]That is not 1500.00 pussy.
[QUOTE=John Wise; 1385547]Bubbles pimp (yes she has a pimp, that's who she loves not you) makes her fuck 15 to 20 guys a night (do the math) that's $1500 to $2000 a night. So why would "he" take a loss on all that money just because you want to play house?
Again, she has a pimp. Get you head out of your ass.[/QUOTE]Thanks for putting it so bluntly but you are right. The way she explained me why it is 1500 was some similar math. Actually, you guys have been very helpful. I got quite a few good suggestions that I am going to follow:
I cannot stop seeing her altogether because to me she is a good provider. I prefer covered over bb services, so it is good to know that she does covered only services for other people also. I will also not over pay or bring any gifts etc. ; and I will see other providers too. I was introduced to the hobby this way but I like it. It makes me happier and I do better at home and at work. As a sidenote anybody ever wonder why the country did so well under John Kennedy and Bill Clinton.
However, in Bubbles defense I will add that she did not lead me into it. I once was alluding to the fact that I brought flowers because I had speacial feelings for her, she clearly told me not to do that because I would still only be only a client. I have always tipped and once it was quite a bit high and she commented on that also. She said that the amount was very high and I did not have to do that and most people didn't even leave a tip. I liked her because I think deep down she is a very good person but I was initally driven to her because she looks just a girl in my class (long ago when I was a student) I had a major crush on.
Thanks for all your advice. You guys are very mature. I wanted to see her on 14th Feb as an out call and make it something very special, but I did not do that and I have not seen her in the last 2 weeks. I used to see her twice a week, I'll bring it down to once or twice a month.
[QUOTE=Jooop;1385221]I bought into these pic a year ago and called the place I went was in Detroit Warren area at door is this lite skin girl that is pregnant she said she was this chicks sister. CBJ was great.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bigboi47; 1384813]This provider is using Tammy's pictures, Tammy is in the LA area I wish she would come to Detroit.
[url]http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/mixed-beauty-im-all-alone-come-play-with-me-call-now-20/8000710[/url][/QUOTE]Did this girl or her sister ever dance at Lolita's / Eros Lounge / The Grind? The place on Griswold with all the names. I seem to remember her or someone who looked a lot like her who danced there about a year to two ago.
[QUOTE=Rinhold;1386314]Did this girl or her sister ever dance at Lolita's / Eros Lounge / The Grind? The place on Griswold with all the names. I seem to remember her or someone who looked a lot like her who danced there about a year to two ago.[/QUOTE]The girl I seen did not dance.
[QUOTE=CostasCarl; 1385947]Thanks for putting it so bluntly but you are right. The way she explained me why it is 1500 was some similar math. Actually, you guys have been very helpful. I got quite a few good suggestions that I am going to follow:
I cannot stop seeing her altogether because to me she is a good provider. I prefer covered over bb services, so it is good to know that she does covered only services for other people also. I will also not over pay or bring any gifts etc. ; and I will see other providers too. I was introduced to the hobby this way but I like it. It makes me happier and I do better at home and at work. As a sidenote anybody ever wonder why the country did so well under John Kennedy and Bill Clinton.
However, in Bubbles defense I will add that she did not lead me into it. I once was alluding to the fact that I brought flowers because I had speacial feelings for her, she clearly told me not to do that because I would still only be only a client. I have always tipped and once it was quite a bit high and she commented on that also. She said that the amount was very high and I did not have to do that and most people didn't even leave a tip. I liked her because I think deep down she is a very good person but I was initally driven to her because she looks just a girl in my class (long ago when I was a student) I had a major crush on.
Thanks for all your advice. You guys are very mature. I wanted to see her on 14th Feb as an out call and make it something very special, but I did not do that and I have not seen her in the last 2 weeks. I used to see her twice a week, I'll bring it down to once or twice a month.[/QUOTE]I'm glad to hear you that you are beginning to understand. Let me share just one more thing that helps me in these situations: Make an effort for those who make an effort for you.
This is not to say that you shouldn't be nice or generous (within reason) or even develop casual feelings. But step back every time you are tempted to do something special and think. When did she buy you an extravagant gift? Send you flowers? Leave you a love note? Plan a special evening out?
My guess would be never, because as much as she might like you, you are just a customer. You might even be her favorite, but you're still just a customer. Another paycheck.
Save your love, devotion, and fidelity for those who will return it to you.
[QUOTE=CostasCarl;1385947]T liked her because I think deep down she is a very good person but I was initally driven to her because she looks just a girl in my class (long ago when I was a student) I had a major crush on.[/QUOTE]A few weeks ago, I hooked up with A SW who seemed like a very nice girl. We chatted and she told me how she wanted to stop SWing, get clean, get a decent job, get her kids back and have a decent life. She mentioned how she'd been in and out of rehab 6+ times. Unless you're willing to commit to put yourself into the middle of that process (that would take many years and a lot of money and support AND which has been tried and failed 6+ times AND which her family and friends have tried and failed at repeatedly) , stop torturing yourself. You are co-dependent pure and simple.
There's the saying about changing what you can, accepting what you can't change and being smart enough to know the difference.
Anyone know anything about this blond bombshell? Her massage rates are very steep and I have not been able to get details on a menu. She incited me to the landing Strip for a meeting and greet but I have not checked out the club as yet. Any info would be appreciated as usual!
Krystal 313. 646. 5688.
[url]http://www.saintjohnmassages.com/index.html[/url]
Use names and numbers as links expire.
[QUOTE=JaunDmarco; 1383932]Has any of my fellow brothas seen this one:
[url]http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/70-_-special-yes-im-_real-c-a-l-l-2696726395-n-a-t-u-r-a-l-_cutie-23/6329755.would[/url]
Love to see her. Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Darkbcl; 1386835]Anyone know anything about this blond bombshell? Her massage rates are very steep and I have not been able to get details on a menu. She incited me to the landing Strip for a meeting and greet but I have not checked out the club as yet. Any info would be appreciated as usual!
Krystal 313. 646. 5688.
[url]http://www.saintjohnmassages.com/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]Wow, never seen her ads before, she looks very hot, too bad she only does outcall.
[QUOTE=John3030;1387221]Wow, never seen her ads before, she looks very hot, too bad she only does outcall.[/QUOTE]She does incall at her home but she is south of the airport so too far for me without some positive recon.
[QUOTE=Rinhold;1386314]Did this girl or her sister ever dance at Lolita's / Eros Lounge / The Grind? The place on Griswold with all the names. I seem to remember her or someone who looked a lot like her who danced there about a year to two ago.[/QUOTE]I don't think that the actual girl in the pictures has ever worked in Michigan, she is from LA one of Baldy's favs, she started doing porn also but still escorts too.
[QUOTE=Darkbcl;1387326]She does incall at her home but she is south of the airport so too far for me without some positive recon.[/QUOTE]Well that is more my area then, I may have to check her out.
[QUOTE=Levenosky;1385448]I was so scared after seeing her because of all the previous LEO stories involving minors. As it is I am paranoid and did not want to take that risk.[/QUOTE]That creepy feeling is just your self-preservation instincts kicking in. To a certain extent, we have all learned to ignore these signals in order to participate in our hobby. Most of us get away with it and live to monger another day. Some of us don't.
There is no shame in fearing the truly awful consequences. Good luck.
Sorry I am just going to call it like I see it. Buying her flowers; in your head may be sweet but that one in particular, is not the flowers kinda girl. Most are money kinds of girls. These aren't high priced escorts (though some think they are) that are on eros and the old boards in which perfumes, dinners, clothes are welcomed. But you really sound delusional in thinking that you are paying more is "helping her" because actually the probability it is further perpetuating her downfall is likely. More money=more drugs or at least a happier pimp. So don't delude yourself into thinking this is helping her situation or her life; probably the opposite.
I used to work at a strip club and you would be called a "lick" by a girl; a sure thing. This high school crush she looks like, I guarantee she already has you pegged. You are the super sweet sensitive guy that just is bored at home and needs some excitement (I am being presumptuous I know). So she can see you are green, give extra money and are just flat new to the game."Oh hun, you don't have to give me extra, no one does that for me." Translation= "This fucker is going to is going to think he is save a hoe and give me extra every time."
There have been reports of escorts falling for clients and it usually ends horribly. But the clients they usually fall for isn't the guy they can "lick" a sure thing every time. It's the bad boy who has the connects. She don't care about Valentine's day dude. She cares about green money. This girl in particular I don't know why is being held on a pedestal because she is very young and going very fast. One of the most active ones on the boards and posts through the entire night. Whatever floats your boat, I mean everyone has a type, but she is very very stereotypical of someone crashing hard. At least you are trying to wane yourself off of this fantasy so I will give you credit for that. But really really don't delude yourself man....
[QUOTE=Giovani; 1387995]So she can see you are green, give extra money and are just flat new to the game."Oh hun, you don't have to give me extra, no one does that for me." Translation= "This fucker is going to is going to think he is save a hoe and give me extra every time."
"beware of working girls who say they don't want money. The he'll they don't. What they mean to say is they want more. MUCH more"
William s. Burroughs.
I understand, I got the greatest darn BJ from this young little SW once and my god I wanted to bring her home and make her my little live in toy. Never saw her again but if I did it might have made some newbie mistakes like thinking I could reform-a-ho.
[QUOTE=Darkbcl;1386854]Use names and numbers as links expire.[/QUOTE]If you copy the link and remove. Would it works.
Fine. GEe is reviewed on here SEVERAL times with decent reviews, but she hung up on me after I asked her if her "blonde" hair was short or long. So I don't like the attitude I got on the phone but her oral skills are said to be.
Pretty good so Iight have to try, but RTFF
Set up a meeting with Marilyn before. She is as advertised. Didn't haggle with her over prices and went with what's posted on her site for 1hr. The girls are very firm and allowed for exploration during what was a very good massage. Have only seen her once and I did leave happy from a very good HJ. Would repeat if in a pinch as HJ's can be had for less elsewhere.
[url]http://detroit.backpage.com/BodyRubs/exquisite-massage-the-ultimate-of-massages-49/4099684[/url]
Searched and couldn't find anyone who had dreamt with this one so I think I TOFTT. Met with Rhona at her incall. I would go in the day for sure as I wouldn't want to be there at night. No one else was in the house during my visit. Three call standard system, guided me to her door. Pics are her and real accurate. Opted for half hour at. 7 Said hr was $.2.
[url]http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/satisfaction-guarantteed-47/7787523[/url]
She starts with an average BBBJ and after two minutes asks If want to put on the cover for FS. Already? I quickly told her I was really only looking for BBBJCIM so she continues on. Then her cell phone rings but she doesn't answer it. After another 5 minutes I sense that she is not going to make Mr. Happy throw up so I tell her to put on the cover for FS. Started in mish for about 10 min and turned her over for K9. Made Mr. Happy do pushups till he threw up all over his raincoat. Overall I would say the entire experience was average at best. Not good, not bad. I would only repeat if I find myself in a pinch and of course YMMV.
As always stay safe everyone.
[QUOTE=Pete3854;1380540]She is the real deal. She has lost the extra weight and post on a local board. You can't go wrong with her.[/QUOTE]What are her rates? Another site says 240 for outcall but I think that price is from a while back, from reading her reviews it seems like she might be one of the few that is actually worth 200+. I'm planning on meeting up with her sometime next week.
Hey Everybody,
Well, I've been lurking around this board for the past couple months, and checking the BP ads almost daily to see what my options are. I'm making my first move on Detroit SP's this weekend, and I'm wondering which one of these ladies I should give my hard earned money to. Contender #1- Stacee Love- From all intel she seems legit to me, just don't know anyone that has actually seen her. #2- Cassidy Chase- Again, the intel seems legit, but since I do not personally know anybody who has seen her, I want someone's opinion. # 3- Rielly, Maybe TGTBT, but I am not thinking with the ol' head brain on this. If anybody has any advice / other intel / suggestions / other options, I'd be glad to hear back. Either way, this slump I'm in needs to end SOON, or I may just start running around like a chubby, naked werewolf and biting women shopping at Kroger on the ass, until uncle LEO has to put me down like a rabid dog.
I had a dream of Stacy the one downriver, she is nice clean, super spinner. Not that enthusiastic. Just a young girl making some coin, in my opinion very safe clean and I love her bod. I would repeat myself and hope the second dream gets better as we get more familar.
Hey Everybody,
Well, I've been lurking around this board for the past couple months, and checking the BP ads almost daily to see what my options are. I'm making my first move on Detroit SP's this weekend, and I'm wondering which one of these ladies I should give my hard earned money to. Contender #1- Stacee Love- From all intel she seems legit to me, just don't know anyone that has actually seen her. #2- Cassidy Chase- Again, the intel seems legit, but since I do not personally know anybody who has seen her, I want someone's opinion. # 3- Rielly, Maybe TGTBT, but I am not thinking with the ol' head brain on this. If anybody has any advice / other intel / suggestions / other options, I'd be glad to hear back. Either way, this slump I'm in needs to end SOON, or I may just start running around like a chubby, naked werewolf and biting women shopping at Kroger on the ass, until uncle LEO has to put me down like a rabid dog.[/QUOTE]
Had a chance to see Tori at a notel off of VanDyke a couple of days ago. Super EZ to contact, she picks up. Quotes 60 half hour. 120 full hr. Once I got to the parking lot, I called again and she was across the street buying a pop. She came right back and called me once she was in her room. Dressed kinda sexy upon opening the door, apologizes because her wrist is bandaged, (she was in an accident) and says 60 for BBBJ or for 100 I can BBBJ, then cover and F / S, then remove the coat and CIM. I'm pressed for time and say only 60 and she gets down to biz. Not bad, not great (beat the hell out of my hand tho!) LOL then like her ad says, she "swallows her vegtables whole" or some such thing. No frills overall, but she drained it. Completely then went and got a towel and washed me off. I'd try some others for variety, but Tori was a pretty good deal overall.
513-568-9179.
[url]http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/specials-new-pics-tori-dont-miss-out-27/8035775[/url]
Good luck and play safe!
FTA
[QUOTE=TiklPkl; 1388390]Searched and couldn't find anyone who had dreamt with this one so I think I TOFTT. Met with Rhona at her incall. I would go in the day for sure as I wouldn't want to be there at night. No one else was in the house during my visit. Three call standard system, guided me to her door. Pics are her and real accurate. Opted for half hour at. 7 Said hr was $.2.
[url]http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/satisfaction-guarantteed-47/7787523[/url]
She starts with an average BBBJ and after two minutes asks If want to put on the cover for FS. Already? I quickly told her I was really only looking for BBBJCIM so she continues on. Then her cell phone rings but she doesn't answer it. After another 5 minutes I sense that she is not going to make Mr. Happy throw up so I tell her to put on the cover for FS. Started in mish for about 10 min and turned her over for K9. Made Mr. Happy do pushups till he threw up all over his raincoat. Overall I would say the entire experience was average at best. Not good, not bad. I would only repeat if I find myself in a pinch and of course YMMV.
As always stay safe everyone.[/QUOTE]I saw her in Flint a while back. She is cheap but not much to look at also when I saw her she took out a condom and said it was up to me if I wanted to use it. So she does BBFS. She also kept calling me after once a week or so to ask when I was going to see her again. Could have been a problem thankfully my wife was never around when she called. I would not repeat. Anybody ever have a problem with them calling? I need to get a hobby phone.
[QUOTE=Hugh Jorgan; 1389136]I had a dream of Stacy the one downriver, she is nice clean, super spinner. Not that enthusiastic. Just a young girl making some coin, in my opinion very safe clean and I love her bod. I would repeat myself and hope the second dream gets better as we get more familar.
Hey Everybody,
Well, I've been lurking around this board for the past couple months, and checking the BP ads almost daily to see what my options are. I'm making my first move on Detroit SP's this weekend, and I'm wondering which one of these ladies I should give my hard earned money to. Contender #1- Stacee Love- From all intel she seems legit to me, just don't know anyone that has actually seen her. #2- Cassidy Chase- Again, the intel seems legit, but since I do not personally know anybody who has seen her, I want someone's opinion. # 3- Rielly, Maybe TGTBT, but I am not thinking with the ol' head brain on this. If anybody has any advice / other intel / suggestions / other options, I'd be glad to hear back. Either way, this slump I'm in needs to end SOON, or I may just start running around like a chubby, naked werewolf and biting women shopping at Kroger on the ass, until uncle LEO has to put me down like a rabid dog.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]I saw Stacy twice but was a few years ago. She definitely is legit. Back then the room reeked of cigarettes. Had one good service and one not so good. Upselling and answered her phone during. She is the girl in the pics though.
[QUOTE=Flintite;1389567]I saw her in Flint a while back. She is cheap but not much to look at also when I saw her she took out a condom and said it was up to me if I wanted to use it. So she does BBFS. She also kept calling me after once a week or so to ask when I was going to see her again. Could have been a problem thankfully my wife was never around when she called. I would not repeat. Anybody ever have a problem with them calling? I need to get a hobby phone.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't pursue this hobby without a hobby phone. You can check my posts from a while back where I had an issue with a provider and she had one of her thug friends start calling and texting me. He made it clear that the first thing he had done was search my phone number on google. I use my other cell for work so it is fairly traceable. I don't need that kind of drama.
Prepaids are cheap now, and the phones have gotten better. No reason not to have one.
[QUOTE=Fun734;1389653][/QUOTE]I saw Stacy twice but was a few years ago. She definitely is legit. Back then the room reeked of cigarettes. Had one good service and one not so good. Upselling and answered her phone during. She is the girl in the pics though.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the feedback on Stacee, she was my first overall choice. I'm not really looking for anything earth shattering, or over the top. Just want to put an end to the awful dry spell that I'm in. I thought that after my divorce that I would be nailing trim left and right, and I was before I moved down here, but now all I do is work.
Thanks again
[QUOTE=Fun734; 1389676]I wouldn't pursue this hobby without a hobby phone. You can check my posts from a while back where I had an issue with a provider and she had one of her thug friends start calling and texting me. He made it clear that the first thing he had done was search my phone number on google. I use my other cell for work so it is fairly traceable. I don't need that kind of drama.
Prepaids are cheap now, and the phones have gotten better. No reason not to have one.[/QUOTE]Hobby phone is a must, had too many close calls before I had one, it has really put my mind at ease. $50 for one with a key board, which I need and $10 for a very basic one.
[QUOTE=FlinTownAngels; 1372360]Good eye John Wise.
I saw her a couple weeks ago in Madison Hts and it was really a bad experience. People say (here) that she's new to the biz and such, but she has picked up some decidedly bad habits in a short time! I hope the fellas are smart enough to realize that she can change her name but its still the same old Bubbles and until she changes her attitude (rules) she may miss a few meals. As usual, have fun and be careful out there!
FTA[/QUOTE]Thats hilarious. She has the same lingerie on in pics under both names. Like we won't be able to figure that out? Anyone of us who regularly "patrol" the ads pickup on this kind of stuff. LOL. I have almost seen her on a few occasions. After some fresh reading tonight, I am glad I haven't. Thanks for the reports guys. I'm feeling an itch coming on. Ill be sure to report on my findings.
Happy hunting
[QUOTE=TiklPkl; 1388390]Searched and couldn't find anyone who had dreamt with this one so I think I TOFTT. Met with Rhona at her incall. I would go in the day for sure as I wouldn't want to be there at night. No one else was in the house during my visit. Three call standard system, guided me to her door. Pics are her and real accurate. Opted for half hour at. 7 Said hr was $.2.
[url]http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/satisfaction-guarantteed-47/7787523[/url]
She starts with an average BBBJ and after two minutes asks If want to put on the cover for FS. Already? I quickly told her I was really only looking for BBBJCIM so she continues on. Then her cell phone rings but she doesn't answer it. After another 5 minutes I sense that she is not going to make Mr. Happy throw up so I tell her to put on the cover for FS. Started in mish for about 10 min and turned her over for K9. Made Mr. Happy do pushups till he threw up all over his raincoat. Overall I would say the entire experience was average at best. Not good, not bad. I would only repeat if I find myself in a pinch and of course YMMV.
As always stay safe everyone.[/QUOTE]I had seen her long ago at a small motel in Durand. That time she was not bad, no rush and did a good job. I never go without cover; she had some colored once and asked me to pick my color, that was little funny. Also I had to stop her during CBJ as she was not about to stop it. It was couple of years ago, may be now she is seasoned in the trade.
Hadn't seen Bubbles' ad on backpage for a while so I called them a few days ago. They said she was in Florida. She was supposed to be back Wednesday, they said. Saw Areheir and Angel's post today after a ver long time, maybe they were in Florida also? (The three belong to the same group / pimp). Maybe their pimp beat them up so bad they couldn't be brought in front of people. Maybe Bubbles is still in a hospital somewhere. I should just stay away.
Looking at a few other backpage advertisers, I liked Cassidy Chase. I checked reviews, she used to be Jennifer Star or something like that. But her reviews were all good. Called her 4 times last night and sent one text also; all over a period of three hours. No response from her. Went back to backpage and these two ads seem to feature the same girl but different telephone numbers and different name and age.
[url]http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sugar-sweet-sexy-sensual-sunday-special-super-satisfying-sustaining-girl-24/7248900[/url]
[url]http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/must-see-1-pick-brunette-vistiting-short-time-only-dont-miss-out-19/7546906[/url]
The ads seem to have been posted 40 minutes apart.
[QUOTE=TwatTeaser; 1384448]Secrets of a Married Man (1984) starring William Shatner would, ironically, seem a little more appropriate.
If you haven't ever seen it, it's a classic. It'll probably scare CostasCarl right out of the hobby. LOL[/QUOTE]Just finished watching the movie. It is very well made movie, paced just right. William Shatner did an outstanding job. Have any pimps blackmailed any mongers here on this board?
[url]http://detroit.backpage.com/BodyRubs/full-body-rubs-sensual-and-relaxing-40/5657447[/url]
Any info?
But she's posted on CL on and off for quite some time. Those pics are wicked old.
[QUOTE=Worker; 1390536][url]http://detroit.backpage.com/BodyRubs/full-body-rubs-sensual-and-relaxing-40/5657447[/url]
Any info?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Worker; 1390536][url]http://detroit.backpage.com/BodyRubs/full-body-rubs-sensual-and-relaxing-40/5657447[/url]
Any info?[/QUOTE]I contacted her about a year ago, I don't recall the rate, but she said she works out of a motel in Wyandot (IIRC). I'm not keen on the motel scene so I passed. Her pictures look pretty good to me though.
[QUOTE=FlinTownAngels; 1389262]Had a chance to see Tori at a notel off of VanDyke a couple of days ago. Super EZ to contact, she picks up. Quotes 60 half hour. 120 full hr. Once I got to the parking lot, I called again and she was across the street buying a pop. She came right back and called me once she was in her room. Dressed kinda sexy upon opening the door, apologizes because her wrist is bandaged, (she was in an accident) and says 60 for BBBJ or for 100 I can BBBJ, then cover and F / S, then remove the coat and CIM. I'm pressed for time and say only 60 and she gets down to biz. Not bad, not great (beat the hell out of my hand tho!) LOL then like her ad says, she "swallows her vegtables whole" or some such thing. No frills overall, but she drained it. Completely then went and got a towel and washed me off. I'd try some others for variety, but Tori was a pretty good deal overall.
513-568-9179.
[url]http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/specials-new-pics-tori-dont-miss-out-27/8035775[/url]
Good luck and play safe!
FTA[/QUOTE]Can't really see how she looks but for that rate and her proximity, I will check it out.
I have had several dreams about Candy xxx 854 xxxx. Offers BBBJ which has improved over the years and her chest is perfect. She has picked up a little weight recently but still attractive. The harder you go the more she seems to enjoy.