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[QUOTE=SalsaLamel;4602984]Forbes. Stopped by, asked for prices, seemed kinda off, . 02 off, if you know what I mean. Seems promising, since it has the right mood upstairs. Dark. Has anyone been there? Number? 8 x2 twice.[/QUOTE]Yes, been to all the Shangra-la's locations. I have only seen Yuki at that location, but I don't think she is there any more. Their house fee is about $10 more than normal for the area. It is not Kyoto, but you could leave happy. PM me if you want.
Well, my Ass holes is better now! Few days to heal, I'll get over it! Thanks! I guess I won't be Graduating for a little longer,(canceled the Graduation party I had planned) Spring, Summer, Fall, WTF does it matter to me, after all these years a Reg. Member! Well, after looking at the board, looks like no one has anything to say around Pittsburg without the" O'l man," boring, trouble starting up, big mouth in the "Massage world"? No one getting massages, pussy? (SS, HJ, mouth, fuck, nothing, can't believe?) I have PMed with a few out of towner over the last few days of recovery, who needed my help, were looking, we got the job done," Friend of Drks" still has some value after all this BS, but in the end it is up to you the way you act, look, dress, talk, present yourself to them, make them feel at ease, not me, that's going to get you pussy, not just" Drk friend"? DAA! Loyalty, Awareness, controversy, truth, misbelief, still out there, go look, even if I don't write about it, bring to your attention it exist you know? I'm still here, "infection"or not are you, him? Hummmm, my thought for today, enjoy!
Has anyone tried out the new American wellness?
[QUOTE=Tim1664;4612071]Has anyone tried out the new American wellness?[/QUOTE]Not sure which one you're talking about. Give us address so we can help.
[QUOTE=Bearmen;4612798]Not sure which one you're talking about. Give us address so we can help.[/QUOTE]471 Lincoln ave in Bellevue.
So I was researching a couple places and this number popped up on almost all escort and massage boards. A couple different adds but all the same context.
Any one man up and call it to TOFTT.
Well, spotted another one that met my visual criteria. Did some quick research and seen a couple post from many moons ago that it was a hit and miss. So, I figured it's close to where I'm staying and I'm game to TOFTT.
Well it was all locked up at 5 but, open sign and lights were on. Checked there hours. All sources said they should be open but oh well may try it again later in the week.
It's been very quiet on here lately, I've been in Pittsburgh mostly every weekend trying to find the good spot, looking for something FS but haven't had any luck, I'm tired of wasting the money for just your average visit.
[QUOTE=Tim1664;4620936]It's been very quiet on here lately, I've been in Pittsburgh mostly every weekend trying to find the good spot, looking for something FS but haven't had any luck, I'm tired of wasting the money for just your average visit.[/QUOTE]Pittsburgh is not the best place for FS providers. The ones that do offer it, are either very old or unattractive.
Sorry to see, but an ATF in Pitt moved on. When I leave an AMP Happy I always tip well, usually at least. 4 and up and things get better all the time. I've heard from many AMPs here that these ladies aren't receiving gratuities. Some absolutely nothing from regular dudes. Goose eggs and they go by by. Without gratitude they will move on eventually. Cincy is getting very dry lately, Pitt will to if you can't keep them here. Little bit of tipping is better than nothing. Be safe and enjoy these fantastic dreams. Looking for a new ATF.
[QUOTE=Silverfox38;4622795]Sorry to see, but an ATF in Pitt moved on. When I leave an AMP Happy I always tip well, usually at least. 4 and up and things get better all the time. I've heard from many AMPs here that these ladies aren't receiving gratuities. Some absolutely nothing from regular dudes. Goose eggs and they go by by. Without gratitude they will move on eventually. Cincy is getting very dry lately, Pitt will to if you can't keep them here. Little bit of tipping is better than nothing. Be safe and enjoy these fantastic dreams. Looking for a new ATF.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with you sir, AMPs do work for tips, we want to keep a good one when we find one, but also they get half the house fee. So if you combine the 2 she is making a min, of $50 a hour, with a low tip. You would like to make $50 cash, hour? Not bad for hand job, let customer roam your body, feel your tits, then if you get someone who is a big tipper, up- sale, $100 for services on 60 minutes, she has made a lot of money on a customer, day, week, X s? Cash! I have no problem tipping more but the services need to move in my direction also! "Warren spa "girls pulling down $1000,1500 a day cash! They just bumped the tip to $140 FS. Economy bad? Hummum?
[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;4627001]I have to agree with you sir, AMPs do work for tips, we want to keep a good one when we find one, but also they get half the house fee. So if you combine the 2 she is making a min, of $50 a hour, with a low tip. You would like to make $50 cash, hour? Not bad for hand job, let customer roam your body, feel your tits, then if you get someone who is a big tipper, up- sale, $100 for services on 60 minutes, she has made a lot of money on a customer, day, week, X s? Cash! I have no problem tipping more but the services need to move in my direction also! "Warren spa "girls pulling down $1000,1500 a day cash! They just bumped the tip to $140 FS. Economy bad? Hummum?[/QUOTE]Providers get NONE, ZIP, ZERO of the house fee. Depending depending on the girl, tip can go 75/25 house in favor to 75/25 provider in favor. When the provider gets the upper end of the deal, they are a top level provider that makes the business! These are pure facts, not speculation. Most average ladies are closer to a 60/40 split in their favor. When you give 100 they get on a stage 60 to 75 in their pocket.
Just the way it is, owner always gets the upper hand unless she it s that good!
[QUOTE=IOnlyCip;4627354]Providers get NONE, ZIP, ZERO of the house fee. Depending depending on the girl, tip can go 75/25 house in favor to 75/25 provider in favor. When the provider gets the upper end of the deal, they are a top level provider that makes the business! These are pure facts, not speculation. Most average ladies are closer to a 60/40 split in their favor. When you give 100 they get on a stage 60 to 75 in their pocket.
Just the way it is, owner always gets the upper hand unless she it s that good![/QUOTE]Little wrong friend, we were talking about a "good girl, that draws Buss. To the shop, that's all drk "handles you know? Your just a little off course, (50/50) house, on your $60.00 hour, she's getting 30, half down the line!(90,2 hours). Let me ask you this friend how would you know? " no speculation"? Do you think these girls are going to let you Cum on them for less then $30.00, small tip? Now she may pay a fee for living, food, out of that money, every shop different, quality of girl also factors in? O' ya, who that fuck cares? Drk.
[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;4627551]Little wrong friend, we were talking about a "good girl, that draws Buss. To the shop, that's all drk "handles you know? Your just a little off course, (50/50) house, on your $60.00 hour, she's getting 30, half down the line!(90,2 hours). Let me ask you this friend how would you know? " no speculation"? Do you think these girls are going to let you Cum on them for less then $30.00, small tip? Now she may pay a fee for living, food, out of that money, every shop different, quality of girl also factors in? O' ya, who that fuck cares? Drk.[/QUOTE]Good case, not factual. All speculation!
I personally know 2 spa owners. Not going to far into it. Helped one of them through a very bad time with alot of legal issues. American woman in the business are a whole lot different than Asian / Korean woman. Asian spa owners only reward the top providers with special high percentage deals. It is pure stupidity to think the ladies are getting any part of the house fee. That's why it's a House Fee! Anywhere at anytime, not going to happen. On top of that, they always, always, always have a split set up on the tip. They never give 100 %. If I employ you as a provider, I give you my building and all the customers you can fuck, I am in fact your pimp and I want paid!
I always feel its laughable when anyone thinks a business owner is not 100% of the time having the upper hand in any business transaction.
I work in pharmaceutical sales and know that I am paid very well. I find the doctors, hospitals and other medical providers to build relationships with. I know that everyone over me, down the line gets a piece of everything I do. Hell, my regional manager makes over 500 k a year. He is my pimp! We are all hoes in one way or another!
I know the spa world all to well, inside and out. There is no one blowing smoke up my ass about how it works.
Friend, you bring up a few points to discuss in your post, lets see what becomes of them with the Pitts. Board? Second, is $500,000 a lot of money to you? Third, I see you have (98) post of experience in the" Massage world", little short on "street smarts" I think? And finally, Who the fuck cares how much they make? Hummmm.
I tend to find claims like "I always feel its laughable when anyone thinks a business owner is not 100% of the time having the upper hand in any business transaction" typically based on a bunch of assumptions gleaned from anecdotal situations rather than a wide, solid set of data.
In my experience, there the truth falls somewhere between your two positions, a but closer to yours CIP. I know girls who got 100% of the tip and where the owner got the lion share.
Let's focus on the important here instead of getting in the weeds on the behind the scenes which we're somewhat privy to.
[QUOTE=IOnlyCip;4629001]Good case, not factual. All speculation!
I personally know 2 spa owners. Not going to far into it. Helped one of them through a very bad time with alot of legal issues. American woman in the business are a whole lot different than Asian / Korean woman. Asian spa owners only reward the top providers with special high percentage deals. It is pure stupidity to think the ladies are getting any part of the house fee. That's why it's a House Fee! Anywhere at anytime, not going to happen. On top of that, they always, always, always have a split set up on the tip. They never give 100 %. If I employ you as a provider, I give you my building and all the customers you can fuck, I am in fact your pimp and I want paid!
I always feel its laughable when anyone thinks a business owner is not 100% of the time having the upper hand in any business transaction.
I work in pharmaceutical sales and know that I am paid very well. I find the doctors, hospitals and other medical providers to build relationships with. I know that everyone over me, down the line gets a piece of everything I do. Hell, my regional manager makes over 500 k a year. He is my pimp! We are all hoes in one way or another!
I know the spa world all to well, inside and out. There is no one blowing smoke up my ass about how it works.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;4629564]Friend, you bring up a few points to discuss in your post, lets see what becomes of them with the Pitts. Board? Second, is $500,000 a lot of money to you? Third, I see you have (98) post of experience in the" Massage world", little short on "street smarts" I think? And finally, Who the fuck cares how much they make? Hummmm.[/QUOTE]Slow down dark, I'm not trying to cause an atrial fibrillation! Just my view is a little different! Ohhh and yes 500 k is impressive to me, especially when I know the business better than my superior who calls me to solve his issues! LOL. No jealousy here, I'm in the home stretch of my career and planning to retire in 4 years.
My only rule I have in this hobby is, I won't begrudge any quality provider who takes great care of me of making a good Buck and I got no problem stiffing a shitty provider!
Brother D, glad you came in and made a stand on the subject at hand, maybe right, maybe wrong? If these subjects spark any new life in the Pitt. Board we have done our job. Right? If you get anything from us over this conversation, knowledge, that helps you negate, great! But we had a conversation to help, so it is in the interest of the board, to open eyes, minds, of our Brothers, and newbies to this "Massage world" we play, Newbies, low posters, inexperienced, like yourself? Thanks, for your input, look forward to seeing more of your post in the "cumming" year! Drk.
Well, I've stayed off Carson street for a month now and I have this desire to return, any new helpers I should know about? Any one been to Happy Feet?(fat heads side) Older woman to rock you, only there certain times of day, great flip, shower, roaming! Not looking for the troubles of last time visit on Carson, or to help any more shops, girls, owners, so its open hunting for me, its all about me! How about Shady Side, new girl also, Kim gone to her own shop by airport, info. On her? I need to visit her? No one on Penn 48x6, WTF, your missing the boat boys. I have a few Favs. To share! Let's go! Drk.
[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;4631777]Well, I've stayed off Carson street for a month now and I have this desire to return, any new helpers I should know about? Any one been to Happy Feet?(fat heads side) Older woman to rock you, only there certain times of day, great flip, shower, roaming! Not looking for the troubles of last time visit on Carson, or to help any more shops, girls, owners, so its open hunting for me, its all about me! How about Shady Side, new girl also, Kim gone to her own shop by airport, info. On her? I need to visit her? No one on Penn 48x6, WTF, your missing the boat boys. I have a few Favs. To share! Let's go! Drk.[/QUOTE]I've ran the spa circuit since the very early 90's. We had a great conversation on the Warren board of days past. Thru think and thin, there isn't a game or hobby like the one we've chosen! Belmont Ave in ytown was the hub in the day and some real fond memories. I see alot of guys that have joined in the last 10 years and probably couldn't fathom what they missed out on!
Well I went by healthy in cranberry.
Its nice and clean lots of not so discreet parking payed for an hour got a nice massage she kept doing a gentle touch of the boys. Thought the flip might be fun. But it was some light touching and a little rubbing till she offered me some oil for a self finish. I told her that's her tip money. Got a reluctant HJ. But went I popped it was a much needed attitude adjustment and I gave her a not intended facial. I can't really say its a YMMV or legit.
Well I caved and tried out Zhang's in Shady Side.
Not worth it. No extras and she's maybe a 4/10. She's lazy. Uses feet and bows almost the entire time. Also, some of that bow work is painful. I have a decent tolerance for pain and had to ask her to calm down. She was grinding her elbow into my lower back bones. Not pleasant!
I tried to be flirty, but she wasn't having it. Don't waste your money. Not even a good massage.
I tried out both of the Body places in McKees Rocks that past few weeks. Visited both in the late afternoon and my experience at both were about the same. Both had an older woman working and seemed to be the only option. I got a decent massage at both, but neither were anything memorable. No extras offered on the flip, not even any flirting or hinting to anything. It was my first visit to both, so I don't know if that had anything to do with it. A second visit may change that, but there wasn't anything that would make me want to revisit. I would recommend passing both these places by.
Just asking no harm, hate, no foul! I,we, have posted, talked about, written so many: Carson street, Penn, McKnight rd, Butler street, this and that, the list go's on, why would you go to a AMP that has proven, nothing to offer? Not even a good / half ass Massage! Any of these" Listed "places you can get a HJ. 95% of the time! ($60) tip. Half of that, you get more if your a real "player", (roaming, tiits out, little Kitty rub) So why? Please someone answer this! Do you have more money then brains? Do you want to explore your own AMP experience? I, we, are here to Conquer, not fall down on our dicks, waste money that we work hard for, give to these woman to send back to China, laugh at us when we walk out the door, insult our intelligence if you will," you handsome, strong big, best, more next time, cum back see me. " !WTF! Answers?
Anyone have any experience with this post?
[URL]https://pittsburgh.rubratings.com/120998[/URL]
[QUOTE=TrickFun;4634625]Anyone have any experience with this post?
[URL]https://pittsburgh.rubratings.com/120998[/URL][/QUOTE]Dark has LOL. I heard she is too much trouble to see and she has GPS.
[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;4634191]Just asking no harm, hate, no foul! I,we, have posted, talked about, written so many: Carson street, Penn, McKnight rd, Butler street, this and that, the list go's on, why would you go to a AMP that has proven, nothing to offer? Not even a good / half ass Massage! Any of these" Listed "places you can get a HJ. 95% of the time! ($60) tip. Half of that, you get more if your a real "player", (roaming, tiits out, little Kitty rub) So why? Please someone answer this! Do you have more money then brains? Do you want to explore your own AMP experience? I, we, are here to Conquer, not fall down on our dicks, waste money that we work hard for, give to these woman to send back to China, laugh at us when we walk out the door, insult our intelligence if you will," you handsome, strong big, best, more next time, cum back see me. " !WTF! Answers?[/QUOTE]Since, I'm looking for answers to start this week off, here's one that really bothered me in last several weeks, when "On Carson street was written". I got many" Private messages"(12) from brothers on AMPs on Carson,(reg. , sen.) some info. Great, some good info, some not so good, some useless as fuck, I will be the first to admit, I, we, do tend to stretch the truth some times to impress our Bros. So many" popular Providers" in the AMP world will say, but DRK" I didn't do that, you, they, lied about sex"(no fuck, HJ, BJ,) no touch, outside only cloths, only give, hand "help", massages! Please DRK get that post off the board, afraid, Police, help me, please! Are we all lairs, Ass holes, stupid, brain dead, time after time, after time, same reports about these woman, and their services, and shops? Is it them, me, Us or just a big dream?
Afternoon everyone, was looking to see if anyone had any information on a possible massage parlor or person, named butler Cindy? I keep seeing ads on the skip the games site but haven't found any info on anyone that's actually seen said person.
I'm only asking publicly because I'm mildly concerned about calling a random number LOL.
Thanks for the help.
New to your city and went to bamboo. They gave me a frequent flyer card LOL. That's a first.
Good massage and left very happy. Don't like the curtains, felt like people could see through crack LOL. Will repeat.
[QUOTE=DumbGuy65;4635857]New to your city and went to bamboo. They gave me a frequent flyer card LOL. That's a first.
Good massage and left very happy. Don't like the curtains, felt like people could see through crack LOL. Will repeat.[/QUOTE]This is a good place on Carson. Did you see Lisa, cute, older, big titts, make up, no problem showing them, roam, good hand job, if she likes you, all about the tip with her? LOL Boy friend now so service may drop off soon? LOL.
Yesterday, was a busy day for the O'd Man with Private Messages. How the fuck are so many providers, shop owners on this site, looking, reading these post, PMs?(guess it is very good, popular) A few Providers are bitching, you "mocked"Asian, us, in your post, you lied, you don't know the truth, we no do, BS. Just job, your not welcome at our shop anymore, stay away! Hummm did I hit a soft spot with them, is the truth about them cumming out, finally? You," handsome good, big, best, young, more next time, more tip more ", I'm sure if you have been to many AMPs over the year, you heard one of these, can't speak a fucken word of English, but know the Fav. Words to use on you, when, they have your dick in one hand, wallet in the outer hand! " Do hand, tip me good"? Don't "hate the Player, hate the Game" your playing on us for our money! (side bar) : This is just the be-gaining, stay tuned! Drk.
[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;4636892]Yesterday, was a busy day for the O'd Man with Private Messages. How the fuck are so many providers, shop owners on this site, looking, reading these post, PMs?(guess it is very good, popular) A few Providers are bitching, you "mocked"Asian, us, in your post, you lied, you don't know the truth, we no do, BS. Just job, your not welcome at our shop anymore, stay away! Hummm did I hit a soft spot with them, is the truth about them cumming out, finally? You," handsome good, big, best, young, more next time, more tip more ", I'm sure if you have been to many AMPs over the year, you heard one of these, can't speak a fucken word of English, but know the Fav. Words to use on you, when, they have your dick in one hand, wallet in the outer hand! " Do hand, tip me good"? Don't "hate the Player, hate the Game" your playing on us for our money! (side bar) : This is just the be-gaining, stay tuned! Drk.[/QUOTE]Wait a minute, your getting constant DMs and hardly anyone contributes on the PGH boards? What. Mongers in this region have a serious problem of withholding info.
[QUOTE=DumbGuy65;4635857]New to your city and went to bamboo. They gave me a frequent flyer card LOL. That's a first.[/QUOTE]LOL yeah I've picked up couple myself. We have bikini baristas at home that hand them out. 10 cups of overpriced bad coffee and you get one free with a show.
Went to the sun was a nice massage with a HE. Place is clean may have to return. And like Dark said I got the "you so strong, you so young looking, you so soft".
Also went down to the trang by Mc Yuks parking lot had a few LE in it. Said fuck it go for it even know I didn't see any donut shops.
I was in luck they weren't up getting a massage (Don't think) any ways on darks suggestion I asked for Rose and I don't think that's who I got but had a nice time even with the lack of English. Can someone give me a description of rosa? Your welcome to PM it to me to keep it just between us LOL.
Then to answer darks question about going out and hitting AMP with very little or no reports and or discouraging reports. I've hit a few around where I'm at just to see if maybe I can find that needle in a haystack that real close to the house. You know that in and out and back home and in bed before it's to late. But, I'm giving up on that illusive dream. I'll just have to convince myself to keep trolling in popular fishing holes.
[QUOTE=Pigrig;4637977]Went to the sun was a nice massage with a HE. Place is clean may have to return. And like Dark said I got the "you so strong, you so young looking, you so soft".
Also went down to the trang by Mc Yuks parking lot had a few LE in it. Said fuck it go for it even know I didn't see any donut shops.
I was in luck they weren't up getting a massage (Don't think) any ways on darks suggestion I asked for Rose and I don't think that's who I got but had a nice time even with the lack of English. Can someone give me a description of rosa? Your welcome to PM it to me to keep it just between us LOL.
Then to answer darks question about going out and hitting AMP with very little or no reports and or discouraging reports. I've hit a few around where I'm at just to see if maybe I can find that needle in a haystack that real close to the house. You know that in and out and back home and in bed before it's to late. But, I'm giving up on that illusive dream. I'll just have to convince myself to keep trolling in popular fishing holes.[/QUOTE]Rose is at tang yi Penn hills.
Thanks, for the words of support, Only hope more Bro. S tell their experiences with these girls, shops. Makes me feel my job is being, getting, done, I'm not all BS running, shit mouth. (DRK =1 -- Girls 0) ! Hummmm interesting!
[QUOTE=Dam2725;4637793]Wait a minute, your getting constant DMs and hardly anyone contributes on the PGH boards? What. Mongers in this region have a serious problem of withholding info.[/QUOTE]Yes, don't know why? I guess its the: " little boy in the playground, I'll take my bat go home " mentality? But think, report get popular, performance drops, shut down, bust, girls run back to NYC, how do you win here? I have a Ass hole, big mouth so can't stop, right, wrong? Hummm.
[QUOTE=TrickFun;4634625]Anyone have any experience with this post?
[URL]https://pittsburgh.rubratings.com/120998[/URL][/QUOTE]I've seen her many times. I liked her its been a while like couple years. No rushing.
In fact we went over our time. Rub all over and HJ after, nothing more unless she stepped it up.
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[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;4636892]Yesterday, was a busy day for the O'd Man with Private Messages. How the fuck are so many providers, shop owners on this site, looking, reading these post, PMs?(guess it is very good, popular) A few Providers are bitching, you "mocked"Asian, us, in your post, you lied, you don't know the truth, we no do, BS. Just job, your not welcome at our shop anymore, stay away! Hummm did I hit a soft spot with them, is the truth about them cumming out, finally? You," handsome good, big, best, young, more next time, more tip more ", I'm sure if you have been to many AMPs over the year, you heard one of these, can't speak a fucken word of English, but know the Fav. Words to use on you, when, they have your dick in one hand, wallet in the outer hand! " Do hand, tip me good"? Don't "hate the Player, hate the Game" your playing on us for our money! (side bar) : This is just the be-gaining, stay tuned! Drk.[/QUOTE]Surely can feel your pain there, DarkSide. I remember awhile-back when I called Kyoto to inquire about the price for a two-girl session, and the house-Mum who answered was saying' "Why you call here? Why you talk funny? Why you want to know price? Are you police? And I said "Wait a mo, luv, it's Salty, don't ya remember? I was there awhile- Hello? Hello? And she had hung up.
Reckon we're all at their mercy.
# Salty.