The Prickyard

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;3364635]I'm pretty sure that Megofast was agreeing with IG, although I thought the same thing when I read it.[/QUOTE]Totally agreeing with IG, sorry for the confusion. Didn't even read it that way.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3364199]Even in the hobby there is a such thing as "no means no" and when you don't like that no and try to physically force her into it, you have crossed the line. You have now crossed the line into what can now be considered rape. [/QUOTE]I just read a day or so ago that there's a new trend of guys wearing covers when beginning to have sex with their dates or GF's according to her choice, then removing the cover whe she's not looking. There was even a name for it, though that is escaping my memory at the moment. It is legally being considered assault or "rape" and is a chargeable offense. I believe it should be. Consent wasn't given for what occurred, even if there was earlier consent for something else. It's a violation either way.

The guy in this story apparently thinks a provider isn't going to go to the police about it because of the nature of her activity, but he might consider that, similar to the way prisoners treat child molesters, there is sometimes justice served outside the legal system. I don't know who IG is talking about on either side of this rape, but I doubt anyone here would be surprised, or upset, if / when this POS gets his due from someone that does. I know I would applaud it.

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2;3365445]I just read a day or so ago that there's a new trend of guys wearing covers when beginning to have sex with their dates or GF's according to her choice, then removing the cover whe she's not looking. There was even a name for it, though that is escaping my memory at the moment. It is legally being considered assault or "rape" and is a chargeable offense.[/QUOTE]That would be "stealthing" that you refer to. A SM and I were talking about that earlier today.

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2;3365445]I doubt anyone here would be surprised, or upset, if / when this POS gets his due from someone that does. I know I would applaud it.[/QUOTE]Due to forum rules, I plead the 5th on that one.

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard
P.S.- I know who the guy is in real life. He should be glad she kept her cool and resolved the situation because said lady could have kicked this guy's ass.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;3363138]1. Connection. That's what keeps guys coming back. I'm talking about the guys who are looking for more than a hole to poke. Talk to the guys, ask about interests and things to get them talking.

A good provider is part psychiatrist. She listens to the gripes and offers support and comfort, in addition to the other services. They provide relief in more ways than one. As soon as the session is over she should take notes. Nothing incriminating or explicit, but things like "Boss won't listen to his ideas. Wife wants new furniture. " Something to remember the conversation, for the next visit.

2. Reliability. Be ready on time. Especially daytime appointments, mongers have busy schedules. Too many frustrating waits and they'll look elsewhere.

3. Presentation. Clean and neat, yourself and your space. Make him feel like you put out some extra effort for his visit. Give him a place that relaxes him, where he doesn't have to watch where he steps or worry about sticking to the furniture.

4. Make sure he leaves with a smile. This is not about the service, but the last few minutes. Make him feel like you want him to come back soon, instead of rushing him out the door.[/QUOTE]I was hoping for a little more input from others but Jibee did an excellent job of hitting all the important highlights. It should be a sticky on Backpage. Thanks, J52.

[QUOTE=Bobup;3365970]I was hoping for a little more input from others but Jibee did an excellent job of hitting all the important highlights. It should be a sticky on Backpage. Thanks, J52.[/QUOTE]I would add one thing, [B]Communication[/B], because that is how the whole experience starts. A provider who's communication is great, timely and accurate means a whole lot to the monger trying to squeeze in his time with her during a busy day. If her communication is great then it's a great first impression.

Oh, one more thing that is very important for a provider to get repeat customers, at least this one. She must have freckles!

Bob,

I know it is an anonymous app but you can't be such a dead giveaway!

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

I thought that I posted about her yesterday, but I don't see it. If you research her number, it appears that she had a recent drug related arrest. She looks like my type, but I'm hesitant.

There is evidence.

L

[QUOTE=Kpevrob911;3368262]All,

I wanted you to know this.

The lady posting as "Nakita" is previously known on this board as "Beauty".

While I don't wish to harm her, you should know that she has been previously reported as a user.

Perhaps she is trying to get clean.

I'm posting pics from her current ad as well as previous ads.

By the way, this is why it's important to post pictures with your reviews.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Kevrob911;3368262]All,

I wanted you to know this.

The lady posting as "Nakita" is previously known on this board as "Beauty".

While I don't wish to harm her, you should know that she has been previously reported as a user.

Perhaps she is trying to get clean.

I'm posting pics from her current ad as well as previous ads.

By the way, this is why it's important to post pictures with your reviews.[/QUOTE]She is a pretty gal. People do sometimes change, but highly doubt it if she is still in the hobby. I have no information one way or another.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3367519]Bob,

I know it is an anonymous app but you can't be such a dead giveaway!

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard.[/QUOTE]Any woman's thighs can Gap it's called opening them. LOL.

[QUOTE=Kevrob911;3368262]All,

I wanted you to know this.

The lady posting as "Nakita" is previously known on this board as "Beauty".

While I don't wish to harm her, you should know that she has been previously reported as a user.

Perhaps she is trying to get clean.

I'm posting pics from her current ad as well as previous ads.

By the way, this is why it's important to post pictures with your reviews.[/QUOTE]If that becomes a disqualified then almost all of the ones you and I and everyone else knows or has known has been one whether we knew it or not. Sometimes it would appear I just don't want to know.

[QUOTE=Bobup;3363112]I post this here because Indy has a higher volume of readers then up North and with a few exceptions most seem fairly insightful.

A provider here is losing regulars and wants to know what she can do to gain and retain clients? Of course I gave my opinion but I'm looking for yours.

In your opinion what would make the perfect provider experience that would have you anticipating your next visit? I'm not referring to menu let's assume that's wide open, but from the time of initial contact until you walk out the door? What are some little things that overlook that impress you or turn you on? What makes it memorable in a good way?

On the other hand, short of an absolutely horrid experience what would turn you off or keep you from returning?

This is a serious question I intend on showing her any comments minus screen names you might offer. Hopefully she and other might read this, gain a little insight and step up their game.

Since the demise of so many message board and the reliance on BP the quality of customer service has diminished greatly in the last few years. Someone needs to up start classes, Escort 101.

Thanks bobup.[/QUOTE]My two cents.

1) Like jjb said time and communication is very very important for all parties involved.

2) Have a safe reputable place to meet. If not your home go for a little nicer hotel. There honestly close to the same price as lower budget hotels if you use online sites like Priceline.

3) Cleanliness, no one wants to feel like they're getting sloppy seconds or like somebody just left. Your body should be clean and your space should be clean and tidy.

4) Somehow make it special like the person your meeting is the only one in the world and for that given time that person should be. It should be about an experience not a service.

5) I realize this all sounds rhetorical but jjb is right. Be caring and empathetic. Take notes if you need to but find a way to remember parts of people's lives.

6) Don't smoke, even smokers find it unattractive when someone smokes and it gets on there clothing.

7) Offer showers if needed, have clean towels and wash clothes ready. Also use unsented oils or lotions if you give body rubs. You're also better off going with a little bit higher quality products can help so that someone don't break out.

8) Always be prepared with anything you may need. All a guy should need to do is come in leave a present and get comfortable. So again things like condoms, Body Oil, lotion, towels, wet wipes, or anything else you may need to be comfortable or that is required should be provided by you.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. I have what is dubbed the booty bag I had all my thing in it. Before a meeting I would double check everything to make sure I had plenty. So that would be my biggest advice.

Anyone who reads this forum knows that some guys won't KNOWINGLY see an addict, some don't care, some look for it to get it cheap, and a select few of us actually try to help the girls (even if it is futile).

For the newer members who care, KR's post is important. For those that been around more than a couple months, I think they all remmeber her issues. That group will act based on which category they fall in above. For those that will see her, it will be interesting to see the reports on her service. When she appeared last time, initial reports were she was great. Her reports then quickly went towards her being more and more doped up and her service declining accordingly.

[QUOTE=Kevrob911;3368262]All,

I wanted you to know this.

The lady posting as "Nakita" is previously known on this board as "Beauty".

While I don't wish to harm her, you should know that she has been previously reported as a user.

Perhaps she is trying to get clean.

I'm posting pics from her current ad as well as previous ads.

By the way, this is why it's important to post pictures with your reviews.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ilapp;3368709]If that becomes a disqualified then almost all of the ones you and I and everyone else knows or has known has been one whether we knew it or not. Sometimes it would appear I just don't want to know.[/QUOTE]Indy Guy.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3368731]When she appeared last time, initial reports were she was great. Her reports then quickly went towards her being more and more doped up and her service declining accordingly.
[/QUOTE]Exactly why it's important not to enable once you know. The added resources from those seeing her worsened her use, no doubt.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3368731]Anyone who reads this forum knows that some guys won't KNOWINGLY see an addict, some don't care, some look for it to get it cheap, and a select few of us actually try to help the girls (even if it is futile).[/QUOTE]I've really been discouraged by the lack of any concern by those continuing to report on seeing girls reportedly using. I guess I'm not surprised, but disappointed anyway. Some have stated flat out that they won't repeat after finding out, and I commend them. To the scoundrels seeking out the cheap lay despite the inevitable human cost, shame on you.

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2;3368790]Exactly why it's important not to enable once you know. The added resources from those seeing her worsened her use, no doubt.

I've really been discouraged by the lack of any concern by those continuing to report on seeing girls reportedly using. I guess I'm not surprised, but disappointed anyway. Some have stated flat out that they won't repeat after finding out, and I commend them. To the scoundrels seeking out the cheap lay despite the inevitable human cost, shame on you.[/QUOTE]LOL you are shaming mongers? Give me a break. Do the providers give a crap about you and your failings that led you to fork over money for a piece of their ass? Puh-leeze. They have what I want. I have what they want. Period. What they do with the money I give them is not my concern. Nor is my life their concern.

[QUOTE=Covenant60;3368905]LOL you are shaming mongers? Give me a break. Do the providers give a crap about you and your failings that led you to fork over money for a piece of their ass? Puh-leeze. They have what I want. I have what they want. Period. What they do with the money I give them is not my concern. Nor is my life their concern.[/QUOTE]Expected a dick response from at least a few. 'Nuff said.

[QUOTE=Kitkat1;3368722]My two cents.

1) Like jjb said time and communication is very very important for all parties involved.

2) Have a safe reputable place to meet. If not your home go for a little nicer hotel. There honestly close to the same price as lower budget hotels if you use online sites like Priceline.

3) Cleanliness, no one wants to feel like they're getting sloppy seconds or like somebody just left. Your body should be clean and your space should be clean and tidy.

4) Somehow make it special like the person your meeting is the only one in the world and for that given time that person should be. It should be about an experience not a service.

5) I realize this all sounds rhetorical but jjb is right. Be caring and empathetic. Take notes if you need to but find a way to remember parts of people's lives.

6) Don't smoke, even smokers find it unattractive when someone smokes and it gets on there clothing.

7) Offer showers if needed, have clean towels and wash clothes ready. Also use unsented oils or lotions if you give body rubs. You're also better off going with a little bit higher quality products can help so that someone don't break out.

8) Always be prepared with anything you may need. All a guy should need to do is come in leave a present and get comfortable. So again things like condoms, Body Oil, lotion, towels, wet wipes, or anything else you may need to be comfortable or that is required should be provided by you.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. I have what is dubbed the booty bag I had all my thing in it. Before a meeting I would double check everything to make sure I had plenty. So that would be my biggest advice.[/QUOTE]If I could "like" this post I would. Kat is right about the experience and the booty bag!

Dave.

Supply and Demand, different strokes for different folks. This topic is better off over in the Prickyard.

Ron BurgIndy.

[QUOTE=Covenant60;3368905]LOL you are shaming mongers? Give me a break. Do the providers give a crap about you and your failings that led you to fork over money for a piece of their ass? Puh-leeze. They have what I want. I have what they want. Period. What they do with the money I give them is not my concern. Nor is my life their concern.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RonBurgIndy;3368937]Supply and Demand, different strokes for different folks. This topic is better off over in the Prickyard.

Ron BurgIndy.[/QUOTE]That is what I was going to say. Moving it there now.

Indy Guy.

I can't like this enough. And having meet KitKat, I can attest to her level of attention to her clientele.

Ron.

[QUOTE=Kitkat1;3368722]My two cents.

1) Like jjb said time and communication is very very important for all parties involved.

2) Have a safe reputable place to meet. If not your home go for a little nicer hotel. There honestly close to the same price as lower budget hotels if you use online sites like Priceline.

3) Cleanliness, no one wants to feel like they're getting sloppy seconds or like somebody just left. Your body should be clean and your space should be clean and tidy.

4) Somehow make it special like the person your meeting is the only one in the world and for that given time that person should be. It should be about an experience not a service.

5) I realize this all sounds rhetorical but jjb is right. Be caring and empathetic. Take notes if you need to but find a way to remember parts of people's lives.

6) Don't smoke, even smokers find it unattractive when someone smokes and it gets on there clothing.

7) Offer showers if needed, have clean towels and wash clothes ready. Also use unsented oils or lotions if you give body rubs. You're also better off going with a little bit higher quality products can help so that someone don't break out.

8) Always be prepared with anything you may need. All a guy should need to do is come in leave a present and get comfortable. So again things like condoms, Body Oil, lotion, towels, wet wipes, or anything else you may need to be comfortable or that is required should be provided by you.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. I have what is dubbed the booty bag I had all my thing in it. Before a meeting I would double check everything to make sure I had plenty. So that would be my biggest advice.[/QUOTE]

Surprising enough (I am a prick you know) I did not post that to start a fight but I am sure I would have realized it would have if I wouldn't have had redhead homemade porn playing on the big screen at the same time. Fuck multi-tasking!

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2;3368790]Exactly why it's important not to enable once you know. The added resources from those seeing her worsened her use, no doubt.

I've really been discouraged by the lack of any concern by those continuing to report on seeing girls reportedly using. I guess I'm not surprised, but disappointed anyway. Some have stated flat out that they won't repeat after finding out, and I commend them. To the scoundrels seeking out the cheap lay despite the inevitable human cost, shame on you.[/QUOTE]We all know it happens. I am probably the 2nd most vocal person in the area on this matter but even I don't think we need to say shame on guys for it. Think as bad as you want but limit it in expression. Well atleast not bluntly! (just an opinion) If a monger sees a user, he is going to do it no matter what. I know of multiple guys on this board that openly speak against it but behind the scenes do it as much as possible and just never provide those reviews. Personally, I just say share the info that you know just like we would anything else about a provider and then let others make that CHOICE.

[QUOTE=Covenant60;3368905]LOL you are shaming mongers? Give me a break. Do the providers give a crap about you and your failings that led you to fork over money for a piece of their ass? Puh-leeze. They have what I want. I have what they want. Period. What they do with the money I give them is not my concern. Nor is my life their concern.[/QUOTE]If your child had an addiction problem of any sorts (drugs, alcohol, gambling) would you just hand them a wad of cash? I doubt it. Would you give money to your child for a legit purpose if you didn't know they fueling an addiction. Probably so. The difference here is knowledge of the issue. Ya I know someone will say it is totally different with a child but the example is meant to be clear cut. Even in this hobby, there can be standards. Ya she has what you want and vice versa but there are a large number of quality providers that are clean. The antagonists of this subject say why see a lady that is doing this for addiction when there are other providers who use it to make a true living. Not to mention that it is not very often that you here a report of a clean provider doing a cash and dash, robbery, passing out in session, etc. Also, most of your pimped out girls are addicts. Some low life piss of shit pimp / SO are controlling them for the dope. Those women get NOTHING for doing this but their fix.

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

P.S. - I have said I follow several anti-drug groups. I have seen multiple former providers on these group. I say former because once they got clean they quit. They never wanted in it and resorted just for the next high. Plus I have seen the reports of a few deaths of providers. Some will say they don't care because it is their life but I for one do not want to think that I gave her the money for the high that killed her just so I could get my dick sucked.

[QUOTE=Covenant60;3368905]LOL you are shaming mongers? Give me a break. Do the providers give a crap about you and your failings that led you to fork over money for a piece of their ass? Puh-leeze. They have what I want. I have what they want. Period. What they do with the money I give them is not my concern. Nor is my life their concern.[/QUOTE]You're right, your life is of no concern to any addict provider. Neither is your health, safety or well-being. The only thing of yours that is of concern is the money in your pocket.

There's an old adage about being worth more alive than dead. With an addict any monger is worth more dead than alive, because the drug keeps them from seeing anything past the next fix.

Does that mean the addict provider will try to kill you? Nope, at least very rarely. However, when her connection sees the monger pull up in the shiny BMW and hatches a plan to rob him, do you think she'll say no?

Anytime you see a provider there are risks. With an addict, there are just a lot more risks and the risks are higher. How you spend your money is no concern of mine. I just wonder if saving $50 is worth the risk.

Like most things, the main issue is money. Addicted providers are tolerated because they drive the price down. You can reliably hire non-addicted, quality, clean, beautiful providers who will rock your socks. But they're not cheap.

The other consideration is moral consistency. If you are a monger you believe people should be allowed to do what they want with their bodies as long as no one else is harmed (or you're a hypocrite). The same logic would extend to drug use. If you want wack yourself out all the time with substance abuse I can't and wouldn't stop you. But I don't want to contribute to a bad scene, whether its addiction, abuse, or coercion. The heroin epidemic in particular is worse than I've ever seen and it makes me sick to watch these beautiful kids killing themselves.

We all know there are mongers who groom addicted girls. Not to pimp them. Just for sex. After the girls get strung out enough those guys pass them on to us bottom feeders and move on to fresher options. They are very popular mongers here. They let us lie to ourselves and say, "Sure I'm a horny sleaze but I'm not like that guy. Thanks for the referral".

On the other hand I feel no obligation to not see a girl at least once only because some anonymous poster says she's an addict. We're all addicted to something. I'll judge for myself whether I am contributing to her downfall. But then I rarely repeat anyway. I just want to fuck a wide variety of hot women before I die.

It's complicated is what I'm saying.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3369021]Surprising enough (I am a prick you know) I did not post that to start a fight but I am sure I would have realized it would have if I wouldn't have had redhead homemade porn playing on the big screen at the same time. Fuck multi-tasking!

We all know it happens. I am probably the 2nd most vocal person in the area on this matter but even I don't think we need to say shame on guys for it. Think as bad as you want but limit it in expression. Well atleast not bluntly! (just an opinion) If a monger sees a user, he is going to do it no matter what. I know of multiple guys on this board that openly speak against it but behind the scenes do it as much as possible and just never provide those reviews. Personally, I just say share the info that you know just like we would anything else about a provider and then let others make that CHOICE.

If your child had an addiction problem of any sorts (drugs, alcohol, gambling) would you just hand them a wad of cash? I doubt it. Would you give money to your child for a legit purpose if you didn't know they fueling an addiction. Probably so. The difference here is knowledge of the issue. Ya I know someone will say it is totally different with a child but the example is meant to be clear cut. Even in this hobby, there can be standards. Ya she has what you want and vice versa but there are a large number of quality providers that are clean. The antagonists of this subject say why see a lady that is doing this for addiction when there are other providers who use it to make a true living. Not to mention that it is not very often that you here a report of a clean provider doing a cash and dash, robbery, passing out in session, etc. Also, most of your pimped out girls are addicts. Some low life piss of shit pimp / SO are controlling them for the dope. Those women get NOTHING for doing this but their fix.

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

P.S. - I have said I follow several anti-drug groups. I have seen multiple former providers on these group. I say former because once they got clean they quit. They never wanted in it and resorted just for the next high. Plus I have seen the reports of a few deaths of providers. Some will say they don't care because it is their life but I for one do not want to think that I gave her the money for the high that killed her just so I could get my dick sucked.[/QUOTE]Well said, but I won't apologize for calling out the ones that don't care about the damage they're causing whether they say they are or keep it quiet. You sir, are NOT the biggest prick in the yard, sorry to tell you. You're level of prick is being Tsunamied by several concerning this subject.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;3369129]You're right, your life is of no concern to any addict provider. Neither is your health, safety or well-being. The only thing of yours that is of concern is the money in your pocket.

There's an old adage about being worth more alive than dead. With an addict any monger is worth more dead than alive, because the drug keeps them from seeing anything past the next fix.

Does that mean the addict provider will try to kill you? Nope, at least very rarely. However, when her connection sees the monger pull up in the shiny BMW and hatches a plan to rob him, do you think she'll say no?

Anytime you see a provider there are risks. With an addict, there are just a lot more risks and the risks are higher. How you spend your money is no concern of mine. I just wonder if saving $50 is worth the risk.[/QUOTE]Everyone is right in a way, the points and counterpoints all jive with me. I'd prefer not to see addicts, I'd prefer to only buy American, if I make those preferences cardinal rules, than I will not be able to purchase much at all.

My body type preference makes it difficult, an average build woman can't even get me hard, so I'm stuck with the skinny, small chested ladies, and 99.9% of them have an opiate addiction, in fact, I'm certain there's no options for me that don't have an addiction. What can I do, besides not getting laid ever?

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2;3369277]You sir, are NOT the biggest prick in the yard, sorry to tell you.[/QUOTE]OK forget what originally started this discussion. Now there is a real issue here. .

[QUOTE=CooterJones;3369221]It's complicated is what I'm saying.[/QUOTE]Very well said.

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard (no matter what TA2 says).

[QUOTE=CooterJones;3369221]We all know there are mongers who groom addicted girls. Not to pimp them. Just for sex. After the girls get strung out enough those guys pass them on to us bottom feeders and move on to fresher options. They are very popular mongers here. They let us lie to ourselves and say, "Sure I'm a horny sleaze but I'm not like that guy. Thanks for the referral".[/QUOTE]I almost feel this is directed at me.

I have several ways of finding unknowns, and the ones that are addicts (which has been most) were addicts when I found them. Out of about 20 unknowns I've played with over the past year, at least 15 are addicts, about 3 questionable, and 2 that aren't, They already had or didn't have the addiction when I found them.

It's the particular body style I like, if I was into BBW's, I'm sure I'd find a lot that are not addicts. Now Nikita, formerly known as Beauty, I met today, she's definitely an addict, however; she must not have been an addict for long, she's a little thicker than I like.

Now you guys find me an attractive skinny girl with thigh gap, small breast and a tight tummy and I'm all in.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;3369525]I almost feel this is directed at me. [/QUOTE]There are a number of big fish us small fry are following around for scraps.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;3369525]Now Nikita, formerly known as Beauty, I met today, she's definitely an addict, however; she must not have been an addict for long, she's a little thicker than I like.[/QUOTE]It sounds like she's switched her drug of choice. She's been getting arrested for cocaine since 2009.

If there is a sincere wish to help addicts and the mongers that mingle with them. I suggest utilizing the blogs below with advice on the topic. This appears to be a divisive issue that keeps getting brought back up.

If it is in a blog it will be easy to see for those that are seeking it and the narrative will stop getting reiterated to those that don't want to hear it. Win - Win.

I suggest staying away from any preachy undertones in it. Moral superiority is less persuasive than compassion.

[QUOTE=Fmlyhm1970;3369653]She wanted me to set the record straight for her concerning her alleged drug use. She said she does not do H. She only takes what she is prescribed. When I seen her she was moving and just had a mattress on the floor. Still had a great time. She is super skinny and very tight. No issues with scheduling at all.[/QUOTE]Other drugs out there but not assuming she is doing anything just saying. But that wouldn't be my main concern on this matter. Other factors I would be much more concerned about.

The recent alleged turn of fortune of a former popular provider reminds me of something.

I used to know a guy who was very good at his job. He was so good, his friends encouraged him to start his own business. His wife could handle the office, he could do the work he'd always done and they would make lots of money.

His job required a lot of expensive equipment, but with some loans from family and by putting their home equity down as collateral, him and his wife started the business. Soon business was booming. Things were good enough to hire a helper, then another. In less than a year all the work was being done by the helpers, but they didn't do as good of a job, they caused damage and didn't take care of the equipment.

18 months after starting, they had lost everything, including their house and were living in his in-laws garage.

Several years later I met a stripper during her 2nd week on the job. She had the perfect combination of looks, body and personality. I was spending, so she sat to talk with me. I gave her some of my standard advice, mainly don't mix work with partying. Avoid the drugs, don't get drunk at work and always remember it's about making the money. Simple stuff.

I ran into her about 2 years later. She had lost about half her teeth and looked a very rough 45 years old. She was 22.

The connection is they both lost sight of their goals. They got caught up in the initial success and started celebrating and it all caught up with them.

A friend recently told me I'm living the dream. I'm in a beautiful city, the climate is almost perfect, the city is known around the world for the beauty of its women, I work and live with gorgeous women who are great people and my situation is such that I can live well for about $600 per month.

But that dream will fall apart if I lose sight of what I'm here for. I'm not here for the mongering opportunities. My play time will be infrequent and discrete. My interactions with the women I work with and around will be professional, at least by Colombian standards.

My dream is to be here. It's not to have access to cheap pussy, it's not to work with and around beautiful women, those are just the benefits. That all goes away if I don't keep focused.

There's no moral to this story, but maybe it will help someone.

[QUOTE=CooterJones;3369562]There are a number of big fish us small fry are following around for scraps.[/QUOTE]Stacy had me fooled for months, she had swore she'd been clean for a long time, I found out because I had some foursome event at my place (3 chicks and me) and one of the other girls told me that Stacy was in my bathroom shooting in her neck, until then, I believed her, she was convincing.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;3369998]Stacy had me fooled for months, she had swore she'd been clean for a long time, I found out because I had some foursome event at my place (3 chicks and me) and one of the other girls told me that Stacy was in my bathroom shooting in her neck, until then, I believed her, she was convincing.[/QUOTE]Part of the problem will always be that we want to believe them. You want to think this time it's true. It's the same impulse that keeps casinos busy.

[QUOTE=Mmgeg;3369946]Other drugs out there but not assuming she is doing anything just saying. But that wouldn't be my main concern on this matter. Other factors I would be much more concerned about.[/QUOTE]Please feel free to enlighten me. PM if necessary. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Fmlyhm1970;3370207]Please feel free to enlighten me. PM if necessary. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I don't think that's necessary. I said what I needed to say and that's that. No offense but I personally think the subject has been beat to death since November. Time to move on from it.

[quote=mmgeg;3370460]i don't think that's necessary. I said what i needed to say and that's that. No offense but i personally think the subject has been beat to death since november. Time to move on from it.[/quote]amen! Amen!

[QUOTE=Ilapp;3368709]If that becomes a disqualified then almost all of the ones you and I and everyone else knows or has known has been one whether we knew it or not. Sometimes it would appear I just don't want to know.[/QUOTE]The ones we knew and some we still know were basically limited to pills, alcohol and some nose candy now and then. Now back then the pills (Codone based pain killers) were readily available on the street for $10 per pill. In the past few years a crackdown by both doctors and pharmacy's to limit prescriptions and track prescriptions so the pills are no longer abused, the price of the pills has increased to $50+ per pill. That is the reason many of the pill addicts have switched to heroin or fentanyl because it is so cheap and readily available. I guess we didn't have a problem with our pill addict providers back then but now some of them have now switched to Heroin, one in particular who was well known with a famous brother in law.

Now both Heroin and fentanyl abuse has become an epidemic in our mainstream society. In 2015 drug overdose was the leading cause of accidental death in the US, with 52,404 lethal drug overdoses. Compare that with other 2015 statistics of the number of people who died in car crashes at 37,757. Gun deaths, including homicides and suicides, totaled 36,252. Or consider the 58,220 US soldiers who died in Vietnam conflict where riots broke out all over the US to condemn the inhumanity of the war. There were 2,000 Heroin overdose deaths in 2002,8,000 in 2013, and 12,990 in 2015. That's a 549 % increase from 2002 to 2015 and a 62.3 % increase from 2013 to 2015.

So in my opinion this is mans inhumanity to man. This is a disease that needs immediate attention by our government, the medical community and society in general. This is just one mongers opinion, which doesn't mean much.

What's up with Region D-bags swiping our talent? You got the entire greater Chicago metro area to work! Dude fuck that guy.

[QUOTE=CooterJones;3373051]What's up with Region D-bags swiping our talent? You got the entire greater Chicago metro area to work! Dude fuck that guy.[/QUOTE]Just like mongers, providers need a change of scenery as well just saying LOL. On a different note: sometimes a couple people ruin it for everyone especially if they are trying to " negotiate" rates. Just my two cents.