Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

[QUOTE=TitMan717;5670683]You hit on many points that I have been contemplating for some time. I agree with Jon in that this doesn't describe all women but it is definitely the vast majority of them. They are raised to fear sex and hold out for love. The ones who are promiscuous are labeled in society as sluts and ******. It has always carried a negative connotation. Luckily, there is a shift in society that is creating more acceptance for these types of women. Unfortunately for those of us that are past our prime still have to pay (unless you look like George Clooney).

Looking at it from an anthropological standpoint, we are not supposed to mate for life with the same partner. We force this upon or selves. This is why marriage is so much work. We are social in nature and everything down to the shape and size or our dicks support this. We are hardwired to be concerned with the size of our dicks because the longer we are, the deeper we can penetrate. The depth of penetration is important for digging out semen left behind from someone like Ray to increase the chance of your sperm reaching the egg first. This is the reason for the shape.

So with that, we are primal when it comes to sex, women are taught at an early age when their brain is in a much earlier state of development that sex is sacred. We know that this is absolute bullshit and it has been perpetuated through religious since the creation of modern religion.

My recommendation is to find a good SB and keep her or find a solid P2 P provider that you like. This way, you are setting yourself up for a strictly no strings relationship. There are some gems out there, you just have to sort through the shit to find them. Read Rays list and cross all of them off the list for a start.[/QUOTE]Dudes in general will end up paying for it one way or another , even the boyfriends that these sugar ladies and hoes are with, whether it be through money, time or mental health. I'm 30 this April, fat, and going bald and I get more pussy "free" and through the hobby then I did when I was 20 and attractive. I actually wonder what women see in me when they approach me at the bar but I don't really question it, but its interesting, its not like I look like I have money or financial stability. I met this lady in her early 30's last November at the bar. We went on a few dates on the second it turned into a situation where she gave me some sob story about her finances and i jumped on the opportunity, I gave her 500 to fuck and then she went back to dating her thugs despite the fact I got her off multiple times. Saw her with a new dude the next week at the bar, and she looked worried that i was going to say something but she introduced me as a friend and i just shook his hand said how are you doing and I didn't say anything about anything me and her did. which afterward she came up to me when he was in the bathroom and thanked me for that, i gained her respect and she's become a good associate, but I would never date or fuck her again though she's tried. Whether repressed or skanky, most of these women have thug boyfriends, fantasize about thugs, or date thugs on the side while taking their creampie home to a good man. Society has devalued good men, why should we contribute to this failing system that the government has created by getting married? She can just divorce you and the government will give her 700 in food stamps and reduce her rent to 140 a month while she gets pounded out by thugs while you're paying alimony on top of taxes.

Unless you find that perfect woman don't sell yourselves short gents, drop your couple hundred bucks, skip all that bullshit, and move on to the next ho. Just my input.

[QUOTE=JonHangcok;5669933]They're out there albeit not easy to find.[/QUOTE]See. You're making my point. For all the porn and strippers and social media where you see all these women just begging for dick. They are not easy to find. And when you're past your prime though still not bad looking, it's even more difficult. As for the wife. We had a huge discussion about it last year and I thought we had some sort of understanding. But it went downhill just the way it does after marriage. She was willing for a time and then nothing and then bitching if I bring up the topic. It may come down to finding the right pro. But the pickings there are slim and getting slimmer. Then there's the guilt to deal with. Not because I'm letting the wife down but because I feel like I'd be letting myself down.

It shouldn't have to be this fucking difficult. Somebody mentioned Toronto where it's all decriminalized. It's very tempting. I used to be a member on a board for adult entertainment up there. They have it so fucking good. The women are beautiful and would command $1 k an hour here or more. But they're only paying like $$50 to $$$ for absolute stunners and good service because they have competition. Check out the ads for the massage parlors or escorts up there and then look at the ads for Cbus and weep. Maybe I need to become Canadian.

Thanks all for the replies. I was just blowing off steam but I felt the love. .

[QUOTE=TitMan717;5670683]Looking at it from an anthropological standpoint, we are not supposed to mate for life with the same partner. We force this upon or selves. This is why marriage is so much work. We are social in nature and everything down to the shape and size or our dicks support this. We are hardwired to be concerned with the size of our dicks because the longer we are, the deeper we can penetrate. The depth of penetration is important for digging out semen left behind from someone like Ray to increase the chance of your sperm reaching the egg first. This is the reason for the shape.

So with that, we are primal when it comes to sex, women are taught at an early age when their brain is in a much earlier state of development that sex is sacred. We know that this is absolute bullshit and it has been perpetuated through religious since the creation of modern religion.
[/QUOTE]The human penis is shaped like it is so your hand doesn't slip off the end. It's science.

[QUOTE=Boo7761;5671446]The human penis is shaped like it is so your hand doesn't slip off the end. It's science.[/QUOTE]LMAO!!

Can't argue with that LOL.

[QUOTE=Prim0;5671275]See. You're making my point. For all the porn and strippers and social media where you see all these women just begging for dick. They are not easy to find. And when you're past your prime though still not bad looking, it's even more difficult. As for the wife. We had a huge discussion about it last year and I thought we had some sort of understanding. But it went downhill just the way it does after marriage. She was willing for a time and then nothing and then bitching if I bring up the topic. It may come down to finding the right pro. But the pickings there are slim and getting slimmer. Then there's the guilt to deal with. Not because I'm letting the wife down but because I feel like I'd be letting myself down.

It shouldn't have to be this fucking difficult. Somebody mentioned Toronto where it's all decriminalized. It's very tempting. I used to be a member on a board for adult entertainment up there. They have it so fucking good. The women are beautiful and would command $1 k an hour here or more. But they're only paying like $$50 to $$$ for absolute stunners and good service because they have competition. Check out the ads for the massage parlors or escorts up there and then look at the ads for Cbus and weep. Maybe I need to become Canadian.

Thanks all for the replies. I was just blowing off steam but I felt the love. .[/QUOTE]Sounds like a reason to take a drive.

[QUOTE=Prim0;5671275]Then there's the guilt to deal with. Not because I'm letting the wife down but because I feel like I'd be letting myself down.

[/QUOTE]Well maybe this will alleviate / absolve your guilt.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2021/12/08/pope-says-extramarital-sex-sins-arent-that-serious/[/URL]

I have been talking with the wife and doing a lot of reflection and it seems that I might be able to get it more regularly from her if I could change things up. It does get pretty boring doing the same pussy for the last 20 years.

It all started after her mentor told her about this series on Netflix about something they call an erotic blueprint. After watching this, I start reading more about where I am in this blueprint and of course where my wife is. It seems that this could be a way to bridge the gap between types. My biggest concern is that I don't really know the how, I can imagine how and have the scenarios stored in the old spank bank but when it comes to commanding the partner, I fall short. This is where I believe some actual in person training would be useful. Have any of you guys have any of you guys done this or know of a mistress that can train and facilitate something like this? PMs from other seniors are very welcome.

[QUOTE=LDontFkinCare2;5672056]Well maybe this will alleviate / absolve your guilt.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2021/12/08/pope-says-extramarital-sex-sins-arent-that-serious/[/URL][/QUOTE]This society puts "men of God" on such a overrated pedestal. This is common sense. Figured this out when I was a kid, and that was when I went to church on the regular. Sheesh.

I'm going to post something here about someone not in the lifestyle, only to tell why'all the difference. These girls are living a life, only trying to make it to the next day or fix, doesn't matter how long you've known them just what situation they're in. They will do anything to make it to the next day or fix. Even to the ones that are closest to them. Whether it be family, or friends, or John. For those who choose to try and help, just realize that. You're last on that list more than likely. I lost someone close to me who was headed down the wrong road, and lied to everyone she knew, hadn't hit the streets yet, but honestly would probably be there, if she was still alive. Why'all stay safe out there, and use your big brain😉.

[QUOTE=JayFoto27;5676115]I'm going to post something here about someone not in the lifestyle, only to tell why'all the difference. These girls are living a life, only trying to make it to the next day or fix, doesn't matter how long you've known them just what situation they're in. They will do anything to make it to the next day or fix. Even to the ones that are closest to them. Whether it be family, or friends, or John. For those who choose to try and help, just realize that. You're last on that list more than likely. I lost someone close to me who was headed down the wrong road, and lied to everyone she knew, hadn't hit the streets yet, but honestly would probably be there, if she was still alive. Why'all stay safe out there, and use your big brain😉.[/QUOTE]Great Post!!

I would like to think that most people have someone in their family with an addiction or at least knowns a friend that has one. If you have seen this up close an addict will lie, steal, and cheat their mother, grandma, father, brother, sister to get money for their habit. If they are willing to do this to their closest loved ones what makes you think you will be any different?

Most who have done this long enough have been burnt at least once over a girl they have feelings for or liked. Where do you think all these unwritten rules come from? Just know if you front or provide anything to any of these ladies there is a high risk of you never recovering what you provided or receive any services. At the minimum if you do happen to get your delayed services be prepared to get a million reasons and excuses for why they need another advance. A addict will be an addict and eventually you will get burned!

Don't try and make sense of the senseless. Again, the majority of these women are on heavy drugs. Why else would they do what they do? They do not care about you, they just care about what you can do for them. Ask yourself this could you contact any of these women and ask them for services and then offer to pay them next week after you get paid? Do any of these women call or text you just to see how you are doing? Offer you a free session just because you are a long time regular? Offer to spend the day with you just because they like you? Let's be real this is a monetary transaction and let's keep it that way gentlemen. Stay Safe!

DJ.

[QUOTE=Try69;5680578]Been reading some thought it was time to post. Stopped at RL and had session with LeaLea. All can say is it was pretty worthless. 6+6, massage was basically none existent, HJ was pitiful, never reached the he (I'm over 60 so that happens). Did the top off, while the pups are nice, they aren't great. Two other ladies there, one tall nice build. The other was sitting but I"d say about LeaLea's height, no face covering, she was cute, looked like maybe better build and younger then LeaLea. Would I try her again. Maybe, maybe she was having an off day.[/QUOTE]Something doesn't smell right here.

[QUOTE=CBus1234;5681273]Something doesn't smell right here.[/QUOTE]What doesn't smell right to you?

[QUOTE=Try69;5680578]Been reading some thought it was time to post. Stopped at RL and had session with LeaLea. All can say is it was pretty worthless. 6+6, massage was basically none existent, HJ was pitiful, never reached the he (I'm over 60 so that happens). Did the top off, while the pups are nice, they aren't great. Two other ladies there, one tall nice build. The other was sitting but I"d say about LeaLea's height, no face covering, she was cute, looked like maybe better build and younger then LeaLea. Would I try her again. Maybe, maybe she was having an off day.[/QUOTE]So this is your 1st post? Maybe you have some agenda.

[QUOTE=HornySenior;5681468]So this is your 1st post? Maybe you have some agenda.[/QUOTE]What agenda? Maybe you have an agenda? Read what I posted. No I wasn't thrilled with the service yesterday. Notice I did say she may have been having a bad day. If you think it smells, maybe you need a shower.

[QUOTE=Try269;5681324]What doesn't smell right to you?[/QUOTE]People without many posts are scrutinized more. I have been there many times and have never seen them take the top off. They sometimes lift it up. They also always have a mask on. My apologies if I'm wrong, but my experience there has always been different.

[QUOTE=CBus1234;5682443]People without many posts are scrutinized more. I have been there many times and have never seen them take the top off. They sometimes lift it up. They also always have a mask on. My apologies if I'm wrong, but my experience there has always been different.[/QUOTE]Sorry for the misunderstanding, off to me is puppies exposed. She pulled her top up, not completely off. No agenda. Horny Senior, you need to remember what is great to you maybe lousy to me. Very possible my standards are higher then yours, that doesn't equal having an agenda nor does it make me wrong.

Some of the ladies I am running across are asking for my linked in for verification. Has anyone tried this or had any issues doing so? While these ladies appear to be a higher quality than your average street walker, I still expect some type of scam sooner or later out of these ladies. Thoughts?

[QUOTE=Midgetbowler;5683364]Some of the ladies I am running across are asking for my linked in for verification. Has anyone tried this or had any issues doing so? While these ladies appear to be a higher quality than your average street walker, I still expect some type of scam sooner or later out of these ladies. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]If you're in a position where being "outed" would hurt you, never ever. Your boss, your wife, your ex wife if you have kids, your kids, your pastor.. If there is any reason it would bother you for people to know you bang hookers, don't give one your real identity. Not even one you've known for years. Even "trust worthy" hookers can turn mean quick.

On the other hand, if you actually do not care if anybody knows you bang hookers, sure why not.

My two cents and experience on the matter. Even well known, "trust worthy" hookers, that you've saw dozens of times, and have an almost FWB relationship or sugar baby relationship can turn on you.

[QUOTE=Midgetbowler;5683364]Some of the ladies I am running across are asking for my linked in for verification. Has anyone tried this or had any issues doing so? While these ladies appear to be a higher quality than your average street walker, I still expect some type of scam sooner or later out of these ladies. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I recommend joining P411. Most providers there will not ask for any additional screening info. Beyond that, I have given my info to reputable providers and agencies. Some of the top providers simply will never see you if you don't submit to being screened. Many of them are already seeing doctors, lawyers, professors, politicians, athletes, businessmen. People with far more to lose than me. You have to make your own call but for me I have had mind-blowing life-changing experiences with girls who are complete professionals who never would have seen me without screening. Refusing will definitely limit your choices. It's arguable that seeing girls who don't screen is more likely to cause you problems. I'm not saying there's no risk. There is. You just have to decide how much risk you're willing to tolerate and make careful decisions. If you're new to the hobby be extra cautious. Especially with sites like Listcrawler, Skip The Games, etc. If that's where you're looking then yes as a general rule don't give your info to them, or god forbid a deposit.

[QUOTE=Midgetbowler;5683364]Some of the ladies I am running across are asking for my linked in for verification. Has anyone tried this or had any issues doing so? While these ladies appear to be a higher quality than your average street walker, I still expect some type of scam sooner or later out of these ladies. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]That's a major red flag, especially if it's during text conversations before meeting. Shortly after they get some info on you you'll get a text or call trying to extort you. I've had people try it with me only for me to laugh because I give a fake name and use a VOIP number. All it takes is a real name and one or two more pieces of info (like city and age) and a quick check of truepeoplesearch to find out where you live, your LAN line number, emails, wife, kids, parents, friends, co-workers, etc. I don't even park at the incall location when I see an escort. I part a few blocks away and hoof it. Never give one of these junkies any more info than they need to collect your money and your nut, again ESPECIALLY before you've even met them in person.

[QUOTE=Midgetbowler;5683364]Some of the ladies I am running across are asking for my linked in for verification. Has anyone tried this or had any issues doing so? While these ladies appear to be a higher quality than your average street walker, I still expect some type of scam sooner or later out of these ladies. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I do my best to never give any personal information out and suggest most do the same.

P411 is your friend, even if you are trying to see someone who is not a member you can share a public view of your profile and typically in my experience this is enough for reputable friends.

As far as LinkedIn specifically goes, I have had attempts made to use this against me. Those attempts only fail because I have a totally fake profile built out with random connections, fake employment history and a picture that looks close enough to me to be considered "old" if I were to use the profile and be questioned on it. This has both helped me get in the door with ladies who won't do p411 for whatever reason and led to extortion attempts LOL.

[QUOTE=TBobber;5683658]If you're in a position where being "outed" would hurt you, never ever. Your boss, your wife, your ex wife if you have kids, your kids, your pastor.. If there is any reason it would bother you for people to know you bang hookers, don't give one your real identity. Not even one you've known for years. Even "trust worthy" hookers can turn mean quick.

On the other hand, if you actually do not care if anybody knows you bang hookers, sure why not.

My two cents and experience on the matter. Even well known, "trust worthy" hookers, that you've saw dozens of times, and have an almost FWB relationship or sugar baby relationship can turn on you.[/QUOTE]As a single man, Only part ill disagree with here is the pastor thing. Most pastors/priests are involved in far worse things then what we are doing. If my pastor judged me for fucking a hooker Itd take everything I had to not break his jaw. i have a relationship with God and i dont need to go through a pastor/priest to validate that.

my close friends and even my family know what i do. i have no shame whatsoever and i am an activist for getting it decriminalized. i dont give a flying shit what they think about it either, im unsure if they talk about it behind my back but even if they do deep down they probably envy my brazenness to a degree. its alot better then paying alimony and being broke, and i have alot more stories. a buddy of mine told me once "your parents probably cry themselves to sleep knowing what you do." even if that was true which who knows if it is, isnt it a damn shame what negative stigma the hobby has? i know plenty of dudes my age (30 in april) broke as shit, with nothing cuz they married a bad woman. meanwhile im doing quite well for myself because of the hobby, paid off house, paid off car. Wouldnt they be alot more sad for me if i couldnt afford basic necessities because some dumb broad took me to the cleaners? anyone who hates hobbyists and escorts needs their head examined. far worse people out there, we arent hurting anything.

Saw the perfect gift for humpty ray.

Merry xmass.

Blue.

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5693095]As a single man, Only part ill disagree with here is the pastor thing. Most pastors/priests are involved in far worse things then what we are doing. If my pastor judged me for fucking a hooker Itd take everything I had to not break his jaw. i have a relationship with God and i dont need to go through a pastor/priest to validate that.

my close friends and even my family know what i do. i have no shame whatsoever and i am an activist for getting it decriminalized. i dont give a flying shit what they think about it either, im unsure if they talk about it behind my back but even if they do deep down they probably envy my brazenness to a degree. its alot better then paying alimony and being broke, and i have alot more stories. a buddy of mine told me once "your parents probably cry themselves to sleep knowing what you do." even if that was true which who knows if it is, isnt it a damn shame what negative stigma the hobby has? i know plenty of dudes my age (30 in april) broke as shit, with nothing cuz they married a bad woman. meanwhile im doing quite well for myself because of the hobby, paid off house, paid off car. Wouldnt they be alot more sad for me if i couldnt afford basic necessities because some dumb broad took me to the cleaners? anyone who hates hobbyists and escorts needs their head examined. far worse people out there, we arent hurting anything.[/QUOTE]Well said.

[QUOTE=Captiva209;5695930]Well said.[/QUOTE]I remember being on a date in a movie and this guy picks up a hooker, my date says with a complete stranger? I said go figure LOL.

I'm getting bored of the opiate addicts, throw a rock out a window it will bounce off two of them. Anyone recommend straight up meth tweeker? I need that a change of pace now and then.

[QUOTE=TravelerTwo;5696568]I'm getting bored of the opiate addicts, throw a rock out a window it will bounce off two of them. Anyone recommend straight up meth tweeker? I need that a change of pace now and then.[/QUOTE]I know a couple. I spend more time waiting for them than actually with them.

Not sure if its the meth or crack, but the sharp fucked up teeth. So I'm not sure what's worse.

[QUOTE=TravelerTwo;5696568]I'm getting bored of the opiate addicts, throw a rock out a window it will bounce off two of them. Anyone recommend straight up meth tweeker? I need that a change of pace now and then.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrBlue314;5695580]Saw the perfect gift for humpty ray.

Merry xmass.

Blue.[/QUOTE]Thankfully I haven't had to use an alley or parking lot as a toilet recently except a couple weeks ago on north Wheatland. Is the UDF bathroom at clime and Demorest back in working order?

[QUOTE=TitMan717;5696741]I know a couple. I spend more time waiting for them than actually with them.[/QUOTE]Feel free to share in PM.

[QUOTE=Hermans;5700293]I know new posters are lightly regarded, but everyone starts at 1. Saw Nova Dawn few days ago. She's more than clean. If you're expecting the girl in the pics that's her, but she's probably not going to look all done up since she just showered. Anyhow perfect tits. Little nipples that were as hard as rocks. Took little Herman who kept growing into big Herman and covered and fit it into a super super tight little box and felt great. She's super cautious and super hard to set up and see through a meet up, but if you're lucky and persistent without being an idiot to her you might get in, and man it's worth it. You can PM if you want and I'll try to answer. Also I'll listen if you want to recommend some other hottie you've seen.[/QUOTE]LOL this is so fake her SC is wide open zero screening LOL.

[QUOTE=RickMann;5700920]LOL this is so fake her SC is wide open zero screening LOL.[/QUOTE]PM me that Snap Rick!

[QUOTE=RickMann;5700920]LOL this is so fake her SC is wide open zero screening LOL.[/QUOTE]Don't be a dick Rick. Just telling how it is. Just getting started here so don't be dogging on those and calling out fake when just trying to help.

If that review is fake dammit she doesn't have to. I keep snapping her asking to meet up and haven't got shit back. Why do they keep advertising on snap but don't answer. That other hot blonde did it too. Arrrg.

[QUOTE=RickMann;5700920]LOL this is so fake her SC is wide open zero screening LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, this review had my eyebrows raised. She does do very light screening, and she is picky on clients. I've seen her 3 times. It's not that difficult to see her if your an ok dude. Never have looked at her SC. Have ya seen her yet?

[QUOTE=ForEvrAlone;5701103]If that review is fake dammit she doesn't have to. I keep snapping her asking to meet up and haven't got shit back. Why do they keep advertising on snap but don't answer. That other hot blonde did it too. Arrrg.[/QUOTE]Don't use SC. Use number in her ad. That's been my key to her kingdom.

I saw the billboard for Wendy's that advertises a $5 CBJ. So, I swung through and asked how much for a BBBJ. The girl was speechless. I guess corporate didn't get the memo. LOL.

Is paying for sex the same as getting paid for sex?

[QUOTE=HornySenior;5708327]Is paying for sex the same as getting paid for sex?[/QUOTE]From an ethical perspective no, but from a "who is paying perspective", yes. Whoever is paying has the right to be judgmental as long as they are behaving within a certain decorum.

[QUOTE=TitMan717;5708199]I saw the billboard for Wendy's that advertises a $5 CBJ. So, I swung through and asked how much for a BBBJ. The girl was speechless. I guess corporate didn't get the memo. LOL.[/QUOTE]Funny! I saw that as well today. Only I honestly couldn't figure out in the 10 sec I saw that sign what the CBJ stood for. I was actually confused! CBJ means only one thing to me!