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[QUOTE=BPittsburg;1823513]If an LE is questioned about being an LE, do they have to answer truthfully?[/QUOTE]Cops can commit misdemeanors when going after criminals. The safest thing to do is not say anything until you have driven a few blocks. See Pikers rules for safety.
[QUOTE=Redneck 1;1818241]I think the officer.[/QUOTE]He could have taken you in on disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace.
[QUOTE=StreetLover;1813553]You pull up to the curb to talk to a streetwalker.[/QUOTE]Do not talk to her through you car window. Get out or have her get in. Anybody two blocks away knows a chick talking through a car window is soliciting.
[QUOTE=Redneck 1;1763685]That's unfortunate. She may be developing a "problem" that's common in that area.[/QUOTE]People that work late at night often do not get enough sleep. Debbie is still around, she left Chinatown Weds morning at 4:00am, about an hour before dawn. I did not see her come back.
Originally Posted by Piker.
RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.
1. NEVER talk thru the window! Period.
2. NEVER pick up a gal on the main drag (motion them or signal them to go down a side street). If they are too dense, or lazy to walk down the side street. Just move on.
3. Let THEM open the passenger door and hop in (you will miss a lot of action this way, but you are guaranteed not to get busted: I hope) The best pickups are when they hop in and immediately grab your crotch (which rarely happens). Asking "Do you need a ride" is better than."I need to get laid" or " Looking to date". Etc. IF a girl says meet me "over there, around the corner" etc. Just drive away in the opposite direction. Say "Sorry there must be a mistake; I thought you were hitching for a ride"
4. Once in your car:
A. Generally from what I understand if they are inside your car it's a good chance they are not affiliated w / LE.
B. Do a 'cop check'. Grab a tit or have her grab your crotch. Or anything resembling that. Experienced girls will automatically do this. I still shy away from that unless I have driven a block or two.
C. Don't tell them what you want nor how much you want to spend (many will ask 'how much you got? '. That's irrelevant) , I usually ask "what's on the menu"? If they are reluctant to say, I make that I'll drop them back off, and usually they will say what they offer and what they want to charge. I usually negotiate down and then if it's been a good session I tip them. It doesn't pay to be cheap with a few bucks.
5. NEVER pick up a girl on impulse, drive around, check her out, and see what is going on. If you miss her (I. E. : another dude picks her up, then you know she's good to go). Later you may get another chance.
6. RECON the area; I usually cruise a few loops around adjacent blocks to get a feel for the area (I have often spotted LE lurking around the next corner and even actually scoping out the same girl!)
7. Don't count on them having condoms. Bring some with you.
8. Don't count on them being freshly showered: I usually bring cleaning supplies with me. Please don't think you're the first guy they have dated that day. Because, frankly, you're probably not.
9. If you go for 1/2 and 1/2 get them totally naked, if you can. If they ask for money first, give it to them after they are stripped. DO NOT pay money up front if possible. If not possible, pay half now half later when done. Remember if it was a good date and you want to see them again. Tip generously. If you pay all money up front be prepared to get burned in some way.
10. Hide your wallet and stuff, have the money separate from the wallet.
11. Have a spare key made! Use a dummy key ring in case they rip it off.
12. Insist they turn off their phone. I tell them if the phone rings and interrupts us and I get soft, we start over again. It doesn't always work, but they put the damn thing on vibrate and ignore it.
13. I've started to walk their stroll, this gets me closer to them so I can see what they look like. Usually I can strike up a conversation, they do the cop thing at that point, sometimes I walk away, sometimes I negotiate them to go down a side street, often you get a number.
14. Its best to pass up a dynamite chick than to break any rules and take the chance. Remember 'IF IT'S TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT PROBABLY IS'.
15. Run away from the ones that yell "you want a date? You got $80 bucks!"
16. Recon Recon Recon.
17. Have patience, patience, and patience.
18. Average 1/2 & 1/2 = 60 bucks.
Carry 20's. 10's and 5's. If you get a cheaper deal, how you going to break a 20? Or tip a smaller amount?
19. Don't go to their place (for a car date). Always have a spot picked out of your own. It took me two weeks to find a spot. If they don't want to go to your spot, drop them back off. Note: If you have dated them before and have a 'relationship' then their spot is OK. The point is you don't want to get mugged by a new girls pimp.
20. Bring a camera phone?
21. Wet wipes; for cleaning up before or after.
22. If you go to a clinic to get a checkup; DESTROY all paperwork before you leave the clinic. If you must keep some document, leave it in a secure place at work.
23. If you get a good deal (like a 1/2 1/2 for. 4) , and you think you want to repeat later, give them a tip. They will remember you and give better service next time. I even tipped one 20 bucks one month later (because I didn't have any more $ on me,) she was like,"you got my, call me soon, I'll do you even better". Yeah baby.
24. Bring along a banana, you may get hungry later. Or.
25. Take a piss right afterwards. So drink some water before the stroll.
26. If you keep your napkins in the glove box (this is the first place these girls look for cleaning up jizz) , make sure your registration and checkbook and any other I'd material or valuables is not in there.
27. When done with your date and BEFORE you go home. Pull over at a Drug store, clean out your car, look for tissues, crack, empty condom packets, parts (no matter how small) of condom packets, combs, earrings, etc. Look under the seat, in the door, under the mats. Buy a fresh air freshener and stick it in the car. Even look for any condoms that may not have been thrown out like you thought but were tangled up in a towel that inadvertently got washed in the washing machine before the wife finds it!
28. If you had a good date; share her # with everyone you can vouch for. Get a pic too.
29. Don't RUSH into anything! They will be out there later. There is always another girl.
30. Be aware of your surroundings. Look for LE, look for LE in unmarked cars, look for guys nearby, other girls? Is their too much action going on? Is the girl glued to one spot and won't move (decoy) or does she walk the streets from spot to spot? Does she talk thru the window?
31. Watch how other guys pick up, or try to pick up, and avoid their mistakes. But also it gives you a clue about the girls they are trying to pick up.
32. DO NOT drop them off where you picked them up or on the main drag. I always drop off at least a block or two away.
33. If you want to extend the time of the date. Be prepared to give them DATY. This always adds a good half hour to the date. Most like it, some don't. YOU must like it though.
34. DO NOT date anyone that goes by the name of Delicious. Trust me. She is far from it. Nickname: BOOTFACE. Do a search!
35. Be respectful to these girls, even if you get ROB'ed.
Pikers Streetwalker Rules:
[url]http://goo.gl/awKij[/url]
Was cruising past longs near 4:30-5am and saw what looked like a Waikiki brunette WSW buying dropped off by a management type with dreadlocks driving his Mack daddy Mercedes. She looked slim and 20's to early 30s. Guess she didn't manage enough customers from high roller track, and was put out to farm the early morning working stiffs. If she didn't look pretty miserable, I might've chanced it, but usually service and body language are pretty well associated.
[QUOTE=Headrest; 1879664]Pikers Streetwalker Rules:
[url]http://goo.gl/awKij[/url][/QUOTE]Great Post!
[QUOTE=Piker;1879661]33. If you want to extend the time of the date. Be prepared to give them DATY. This always adds a good half hour to the date. Most like it, some don't. YOU must like it though.[/QUOTE]There's lots of helpful advice in those mainland "Rules of Engagement," but personally I wouldn't want to follow the above-quoted Rule 33 with most of the streetwalkers in Honolulu's downtown discount district, LOL. However, if any other mongers want to do so, bon appétit, LOL.
[QUOTE=Redneck 1;1882777]There's lots of helpful advice in those mainland "Rules of Engagement," but personally I wouldn't want to follow the above-quoted Rule 33 with most of the streetwalkers in Honolulu's downtown discount district, LOL. However, if any other mongers want to do so, bon appétit, LOL.[/QUOTE]Concur with Redneck
I learned lesson #27 the hard way.
Awesome post. Words of wisdom to live by when dating SW's.
[QUOTE=Wulfen;1880214].dropped off by a management type with dreadlocks driving his Mack daddy Mercedes.[/QUOTE]That guy parks directly opposite the driveway (parkinglot across street) into Roses if he has a girl there (non-korean). Walks up the driveway midway and collects his dooty and walks back to his car for all those in the bar across the street to see.
Headrest's comments on 22 Rules for Street Mongering.
It always starts with eye contact. If she won't make eye contact ditch the car, and do a close walk-by on foot. Keep smiling. Do not EVER, EVER, EVER, discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. Wait a few blocks before you start sex negotiations.
If she doesn't get in right away, move on! Do not carry extra cash. If you need it go to the 7 eleven, buy her some cigarettes and get what you need out of the machine, or cash back at Safeway. Most Chinatown girls are drug addicts; their addiction doesn't have a 'M-F, excluding holidays" schedule. Cell phones is way you don't see them out all of the time.
Headrest's comments on 19 Rules to Street Walkers.
Act polite, small talk relaxes everyone involved. Lose the dude and we can do business.
Headrest's comments on Streetwalker Rules by Piker.
Rule #1 An undercover posing as a Streetwalker will never get in the car with you. This the basis of all rules. They will take you in for just talking through the car window.
'Do you need a ride, ' is about all you can say. The cop check is nonsense, childish, stupid, and nobody gets off on it. Especially considering what is coming. It proves nothing except that both of you are amateurs waiting to get caught for lewd behavior. If you are later busted, how do you plan to use this as evidence of your innocents?
Walk her stroll, recon, this gets you closer to her so that you can see what she looks like up close. I usually strike up a conversation, sometimes I walk away, sometimes I take them for a ride, often you get a useful number.
Never pick up a girl on impulse the first time that you see her, drive around, check her out on the boards, and see what is going on. Don't rush into anything! They will be out there later. There is always another girl. I really wanted to do Debbie the first time I saw her, but I waited to check her out first. Her online description reminded me of Veronica.
Ask what's on the menu, don't tell them what you want, or how much you are willing to pay. If they won't say, make like you will drop them back off, and usually they will say what they offer, and what they want to charge. It doesn't pay to be cheap with a few bucks to get what you want, the way that you want it. Deal with the cells before you start.
Your kit should include Wet wipes for wiping her off. If you want to repeat later, give her a tip. Try not to drop her off where you picked her up. Longs is good. Be respectful to these girls.
Ten Things NOT to do If Arrested:
Late night after 9 pm waimalu along KAM / intersection of cutter ford been seeing a SW local lookin in booty shorts / skinny legs. Been driving back and forth for some errands noticed she didn't get on a bus. Idk but at first I toght was a chick, but its dark and I figure could be a ts. Waits at the bus stop near the payphone sitting down. Don't think I could find any ad CL / BP on this one.
I don't do SW's anymore but if anyone wants to chance um. LOL.
[QUOTE=CM0069; 1895766]Late night after 9 pm waimalu along KAM / intersection of cutter ford been seeing a SW local lookin in booty shorts / skinny legs. Been driving back and forth for some errands noticed she didn't get on a bus. Idk but at first I toght was a chick, but its dark and I figure could be a ts. Waits at the bus stop near the payphone sitting down. Don't think I could find any ad CL / BP on this one.
I don't do SW's anymore but if anyone wants to chance um. LOL.[/QUOTE]It's definitely a guy. I stopped at the traffic light one night and he was at the bus stop in his daisy dukes LOL.
[QUOTE=Ratchet Lover;1896168]It's definitely a guy. I stopped at the traffic light one night and he was at the bus stop in his daisy dukes LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah figures LOL. I think the when mahus force the female walk / stance it just looks unnatural haha.
Hmm ok another random sighting. But who knows. Late night 9-10 ish bridge before toys-are-us. Short older flipina / local lookin female this time loitering middle of the bridge on sidewalk. Saw her like 30 min earlier walking down, but on way back saw her on the bridge still there. Just looked out of place, like waiting for someone. Just for kicks I roundabout and waited a bit at driveway exit, but I just dugout after a min but only after I did I noticed she began to trek her way down that driveway exit I was just at. Oh wellz, had to be somewhere couldn't stop for info.
Saw the skinny TS by the payphones.
There were 2 big girls at the bus stop tonight. Not bad shape, just big. One pale-white skinned blonde and one caramel complexioned lady with full lips.
Both were females. Did not sample. Heading somewhere else.
I'd double and triple check any of the SW in those areas. I haven't found a single instance of a female SW there.
There might be action in Aiea Cue. (I dated a girl who used to be in there, but she only used the phone there. I'd call her and then grab her outside.)
There was I think one time I grabbed a female in Waiaphu, but that was near the Shell Station.
Don't really know if there is any street play down that side.
[QUOTE=BPittsburg; 1898777]Saw the skinny TS by the payphones.
There were 2 big girls at the bus stop tonight. Not bad shape, just big. One pale-white skinned blonde and one caramel complexioned lady with full lips.
Both were females. Did not sample. Heading somewhere else.[/QUOTE]Bro, haven't been females in that area in about 5 yrs, but hey, go for it. Tells us how sensitive their clits are.
Cruised through DT early this morning but was absolutely dead. Only one mahu by Hosoi. Are there any real females still hooking in DT? I even tried calling ABK but to no avail, unless she changed her number / went mainland like she said she would long time ago.
[QUOTE=Hinode;1900744]Cruised through DT early this morning but was absolutely dead. Only one mahu by Hosoi. Are there any real females still hooking in DT? I even tried calling ABK but to no avail, unless she changed her number / went mainland like she said she would long time ago.[/QUOTE]Downtown is brutal right now. SW tough to find and always got to do a hmmmmm is that a Ooohhhh crap turn and drive away!
I did see a middle aged MILF-ish WSW last week early morning but got pickup before I could come back around. Oh well.
Be safe mongers.
Used to be a decent chance of seeing an actual female SW in DT area, now it's just like HGL says you see something interesting from a block away, but then "she" walks unnaturally for a woman or you get up close and see, or hear the voice and you realize it is a man playing dress up. Auwei good from far but far from good.
[QUOTE=HaoleGirlLover; 1900820]Downtown is brutal right now. SW tough to find and always got to do a hmmmmm is that a Ooohhhh crap turn and drive away!
I did see a middle aged MILF-ish WSW last week early morning but got pickup before I could come back around. Oh wel.
Be safe mongers.[/QUOTE]
Yep, downtown is indeed all mahus. I got lucky and picked up a real girl named Laura. She's Hawaiian-Portuguese and is an easy time and aims to please. She gives bareback service at reasonable DT prices. I think I picked her up around 12-2 am, but didn't get her number. Good luck in finding her though.
I think it is coming to the point where you need to spend the $$ in massage parlors or at mt's to get some action. Or just stay home and fap like everyone else.
[QUOTE=BPittsburg;1898777]...
There were 2 big girls at the bus stop tonight. Not bad shape, just big. One pale-white skinned blonde and one caramel complexioned lady with full lips.
Both were females. Did not sample. Heading somewhere else.[/QUOTE]LOL just saw that big white one just around midnite last night, but was on corner across Cutter. Tat on leg, umm idk maybe because she's thick with lotsa makeup a quick glance seem dude'ish to me. Looks like the security is chasin them off the lot by the bustop, but it is now waaay to noticeble on the well lit corner now ha.
I live in the area so I recognize all the mahus, get plenty girls out now.
[QUOTE=Hinode;1900744]Cruised through DT early this morning but was absolutely dead. Only one mahu by Hosoi. Are there any real females still hooking in DT? I even tried calling ABK but to no avail, unless she changed her number / went mainland like she said she would long time ago.[/QUOTE]Scarce but some out there. Veronica still shows up time to time. Saw a blonde out by longs with her obvious popolo pimp standing across the street.
[QUOTE=DowntownZippy;1912930]I live in the area so I recognize all the mahus, get plenty girls out now.[/QUOTE]Braddah DTRippys: Are you being sarcastic, or serious? Seems like everytime I cruise there (yeah day or night, NOT normal business hours 8-5) there's NO real females out. Only GET mahus. By all means, enlighten us, because inquiring minds want to know about these 'real females!
Mahalo,
H.
There are some females in downtown. I've had two recently, although I'm not sure how well you can see them. Just realize that you aren't going to find any GOOD looking females, but you will find cheaper females, and more desperate females.
Jamie. The other BL queen of the street. I have seen her on rare occasions, I even have her number. She says she doesn't come out too often, because all the guys are not around anymore. When she is out, no one grabs her. She does a good BBBJ, but while she is my tried and true. I do like variety and lately have been trying to find someone else to be my new ATF. She usually is very willing to meet you, although it can take sometime to meet her. She does a great BBBJ, I haven't ever had FS from her, but I don't know if I want to. She does have some stamina issues, and can either get tired, or complains if it takes too long.
H / P / A. .60/1.00/ nope.
L / A / S. 6/7/7.
Clare. Another girl on the street, she was female, but kinda lolo in the head. She apparently has a SO which now limits her to BJ only. (She says, her ass and pussy are for her BF). Her BJ is good and slow, and she does have stamina. You might have to drop another .20 for BB. Said she only comes out when she needs to since she wants to be for her BF only. She has be featured here before, and is the young woman who had the stroke and walks with a limp.
H / P / A. 0.60 (BB + .20)/nope/nope.
L / A / S. 7/6/6.
I actually have another gem. A girl that we probably dream about finding in DT. Not as 'fancy' as the Waikiki Girls, and not a crack ho like the ones we have been seeing. Kinda like when DT was 15 years ago when you could find some 'regular' looking girls who were just trying to make money and didn't want to work the AMP and stuff. She kinda roams around Ctown itself and not back in Kukui. Goes into the arcades and is very good looking. She knows about this site, so I'm delaying info on her date a bit, kinda since she wants me to push her here, wants me to take some of her pics and put them up. Says I can get a nice discount if I help her advertise. I am still considering it. Will let you know able the gem later.
[QUOTE=DTLooker;1914159]There are some females in downtown. I've had two recently, although I'm not sure how well you can see them. Just realize that you aren't going to find any GOOD looking females, but you will find cheaper females, and more desperate females.
Jamie. The other BL queen of the street. I have seen her on rare occasions, I even have her number. She says she doesn't come out too often, because all the guys are not around anymore. When she is out, no one grabs her. She does a good BBBJ, but while she is my tried and true. I do like variety and lately have been trying to find someone else to be my new ATF. She usually is very willing to meet you, although it can take sometime to meet her. She does a great BBBJ, I haven't ever had FS from her, but I don't know if I want to. She does have some stamina issues, and can either get tired, or complains if it takes too long.
H / P / A. .60/1.00/ nope.
L / A / S. 6/7/7.
Clare. Another girl on the street, she was female, but kinda lolo in the head. She apparently has a SO which now limits her to BJ only. (She says, her ass and pussy are for her BF). Her BJ is good and slow, and she does have stamina. You might have to drop another .20 for BB. Said she only comes out when she needs to since she wants to be for her BF only. She has be featured here before, and is the young woman who had the stroke and walks with a limp.
H / P / A. 0.60 (BB + .20)/nope/nope.
L / A / S. 7/6/6.
I actually have another gem. A girl that we probably dream about finding in DT. Not as 'fancy' as the Waikiki Girls, and not a crack ho like the ones we have been seeing. Kinda like when DT was 15 years ago when you could find some 'regular' looking girls who were just trying to make money and didn't want to work the AMP and stuff. She kinda roams around Ctown itself and not back in Kukui. Goes into the arcades and is very good looking. She knows about this site, so I'm delaying info on her date a bit, kinda since she wants me to push her here, wants me to take some of her pics and put them up. Says I can get a nice discount if I help her advertise. I am still considering it. Will let you know able the gem later.[/QUOTE]Great report but what does h / p / a stand for?
[QUOTE=Hihon;1914191]Great report but what does h / p / a stand for?[/QUOTE]Head. Pussy. Ass.
Looks. Service. Attitude.
[QUOTE=Hinode;1913583]Braddah DTRippys: Are you being sarcastic, or serious? Seems like everytime I cruise there (yeah day or night, NOT normal business hours 8-5) there's NO real females out. Only GET mahus. By all means, enlighten us, because inquiring minds want to know about these 'real females!
Mahalo,
H.[/QUOTE]I never say they were pretty just real, Pua was chatting with the girl with the limp, a classy older haole lady, and a chubby younger haole girl, the rest were girls with a kick stand, haha I only posted cause these girls are out kinda regular now, not my taste so I never stopped.
[QUOTE=DTLooker;1914159]
I actually have another gem. A girl that we probably dream about finding in DT. Not as 'fancy' as the Waikiki Girls, and not a crack ho like the ones we have been seeing. Kinda like when DT was 15 years ago when you could find some 'regular' looking girls who were just trying to make money and didn't want to work the AMP and stuff. She kinda roams around Ctown itself and not back in Kukui. Goes into the arcades and is very good looking. She knows about this site, so I'm delaying info on her date a bit, kinda since she wants me to push her here, wants me to take some of her pics and put them up. Says I can get a nice discount if I help her advertise. I am still considering it. Will let you know able the gem later.[/QUOTE]Would love to know more about this gem. I live in DT / CT area. Could use a company on a long day.
[QUOTE=DTLooker;1914159]
I actually have another gem. A girl that we probably dream about finding in DT. Not as 'fancy' as the Waikiki Girls, and not a crack ho like the ones we have been seeing. Kinda like when DT was 15 years ago when you could find some 'regular' looking girls who were just trying to make money and didn't want to work the AMP and stuff. She kinda roams around Ctown itself and not back in Kukui. Goes into the arcades and is very good looking. She knows about this site, so I'm delaying info on her date a bit, kinda since she wants me to push her here, wants me to take some of her pics and put them up. Says I can get a nice discount if I help her advertise. I am still considering it. Will let you know able the gem later.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't mind seeing this gem. How can I contact her? You should help her and let us guys know how to contact her.
Aloha,
Just wondering if you wouldn't mind posting exact downtown intersections (I.e. Exact street names) and exact names / locations of AMPs.
Reason being, not exactly certain what the area names or nicknames are and get completely lost!
Thanks!
JT
Made the normal rounds around the DT area on Saturday. Seemed like it was more LE out than I'm used to, but I guess that's how saturdays are. Saw debbie in her normal spot and waved her down and recieved the legendary BBBJCIM. Its usually always a good night when you run into debbie. Keep up the good work girl!
I have Debbie, s old phone number and I couldn't reach her..
If you know her new phone number please PM me?
Debbie if you see this let me know!
Decided to drive through DT and see what is up last week. Thought I saw DT Debbie standing on the side and drove around again and stopped behind her car. I followed her to a quite place and she was good as usual. BBBJCIM for the normal amount. Treat her good mongers.
[QUOTE=JoshT;1916697]Aloha,
Just wondering if you wouldn't mind posting exact downtown intersections (I.e. Exact street names) and exact names / locations of AMPs.
Reason being, not exactly certain what the area names or nicknames are and get completely lost!
Thanks!
JT[/QUOTE]All the info is already in the forums so just roll through them and you'll find it. If you can't, just look up the name of the AMP on google maps and a pic will usually show up, and you can see the street names there. If you still need help shoot me a pm, but usually guys here don't like to keep re-posting the same info over and over again.
[QUOTE=HaoleGirlLover;1920726] I saw DT Debbie standing on the side and drove around again and stopped behind her car. I followed her to a quite place and she was good as usual. BBBJCIM for the normal amount. Treat her good mongers.[/QUOTE]Where is her "usual spot" and what's her "normal amount"? Is she an older blonde, maybe late 40's?
Mahalo in advance.
H.
[QUOTE=DTLooker;1914159]There are some females in downtown. I've had two recently, although I'm not sure how well you can see them. Just realize that you aren't going to find any GOOD looking females, but you will find cheaper females, and more desperate females.[/QUOTE]Sometimes I just spot some but ends up too late since I am just walking from the opposite direction that or too far too interact. Once saw this local hmm youngin waiting to cross the street, and I could see that she was opening up her jacket to flash this truck driver that's at the light and she is just doing that seductive hip / titty shake, I am like dayamm I am tooooo farrrrr... Drove around but she was gone disappeared into the market place. Definitely did not appear anywhere past and I gave up, so yeah I believe there must be some. Or just teaser / flirters LOL.