[QUOTE=Al Czervik;1114171]I went to Angel yesterday ....[/QUOTE]Angel is on Univ?
Hope you brushed your teeth when you got back.
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[QUOTE=Al Czervik;1114171]I went to Angel yesterday ....[/QUOTE]Angel is on Univ?
Hope you brushed your teeth when you got back.
Be on the lookout for the guy with sores on his face.
[QUOTE=Al Czervik; 1114171]I went to Angel yesterday and was a little suprised by the service, so I though I'd share. I was really just looking for a decent massage and a standard HJ. I had only been there once before, and I thought I remembered the massage being decent. I definitely remembered the TS being really good, so I thought I would give it another shot based on that alone. Plus I didn't want to spend a ton of money and the location is closer to me than other AMPs.
Same girl I had on the first visit, although that was months ago. I was the first appointment of the day. Just a walk in but I got there right when they opened. TS was great followed by a decent massage. Started pretty standard on the flip but progressed to my suprise to some DATY in the 69 position (I know, I know, but I was the first guy of the day). After a little of that, I decided to sit up and she got off the table. We both stood beside the table and I patted the table with my hand and she got back up on the table. I grabbed her legs and pulled her to the egde and continued to DATY with some rimming and digit insertion. I stood up after a while and pulled her back to the edge of the table again and we proceeded with BBFS (I know, I know).
Received the standard clean up service and she continued to massage me but I felt kinda guilty cause I wasnt expecting FS and I did not have a lot of cash for a tip. So, I ended the massage early at about the 50 min mark but that was my choice.
$.8 door $.6 tip = $1. 4 total without any complaints.
I think I might be visiting more often.[/QUOTE]
I was there the other day I had Mariah the massage was lame and the flip came at about 20 minutes then things started to get better she was willing to play a little and the HE was not rushed. If I go again I will ask for somebody different she was a little too big for me. Stiffytwo
Please define what constitutes a massage parlor. IMO if the advertise on BP and the locations are mobile that isn't a massage parlor. A massage parlor is in one location. Even thought the category says massage they are still escorts.
Does anyone else have an opinion?
"Started pretty standard on the flip but progressed to my suprise to some DATY in the 69 position (I know, I know, but I was the first guy of the day)."
Dude, no matter what time of day you go in, you are always the "1st of the day"! And oh yeah, they all "LOVE what they do"; the money is just bonus!
[QUOTE=Bamadog111;1113319]I think I am going to try Jessica over ntr to start. Ask for gentleman's special correct? Anything else before so I don't get shot down? I know not to ask for anything over the phone and a few other things from reading here. Wasn't sure if there was anything specific for her.[/QUOTE]Hey Bamadog,
She is really good at what she does. IMHO the pic that was on her CL post was horrible. She is a good looking woman, very nice, and makes you feel right at home. You are in good hands with her.
Max
Thanks for the advice! LOL!
Believe it or not, I have been a hobbyist for almost 20 years now and I am aware of the flattery games that are played by therapists. You point is well taken, though.
When I say I was the "first guy of the day", it is based on:
1. I arrived at 8:50 a. M.
2. I went to the door and it was locked, open sign was off.
3. I assumed they opened at 9:00, so I waited in the parking lot.
4. I watched as Mamasan unlocked the door at 8:55 and turned on the open sign.
5. I went in 2 minutes later and, in that 2 minutes, no one went in ahead of me.
Now, it is always possible that there was some kind of private appointment before me, or maybe even someone who knows her on a more personal level fucked the shit out of her earlier that morning, but, in my book, that makes me the first guy of the day. ;.)
[QUOTE=Lookinfoit69; 1114577]"Started pretty standard on the flip but progressed to my suprise to some DATY in the 69 position (I know, I know, but I was the first guy of the day)."
Dude, no matter what time of day you go in, you are always the "1st of the day"! And oh yeah, they all "LOVE what they do"; the money is just bonus! [/QUOTE]
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Forget about the "first guy" thing. I have been to Angel several times and never received anything but the standard HJ. One time, not even that. She said,"all done" before the flip. WTF. How do you get FS on your second visit?
[QUOTE=Al Czervik; 1114734]Thanks for the advice! LOL!
Believe it or not, I have been a hobbyist for almost 20 years now and I am aware of the flattery games that are played by therapists. You point is well taken, though.
When I say I was the "first guy of the day", it is based on:
1. I arrived at 8:50 am.
2. I went to the door and it was locked, open sign was off.
3. I assumed they opened at 9:00, so I waited in the parking lot.
4. I watched as Mamasan unlocked the door at 8:55 and turned on the open sign.
5. I went in 2 minutes later and, in that 2 minutes, no one went in ahead of me.
Now, it is always possible that there was some kind of private appointment before me, or maybe even someone who knows her on a more personal level fucked the shit out of her earlier that morning, but, in my book, that makes me the first guy of the day. ;.) [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gmjax1;1114852]Forget about the "first guy" thing. I have been to Angel several times and never received anything but the standard HJ. One time, not even that. She said,"all done" before the flip. WTF. How do you get FS on your second visit?[/QUOTE]Your experience can vary. It took a bit of subtle hints and hand placement during my first and second Angel dreams. First time I had a dream about Angel, I just got a very spirited HJ. This second dream I had a few nights ago, I got FS in multiple positions.
Newbie to the forum here! Joined a few weeks ago. First of all, thanks a bunch to all those who contribute to the forum and share their experiences! I won't be too active, but will do my part.
Saw Jackie today at the new location. As posted by other mongers previously, she is shy but cute. Due to unavoidable circumstances, I got there late, so had only 35 min. Still, had a good time with a satisfying HJ. Will definitely repeat.
[QUOTE=Gmjax1;1114852]Forget about the "first guy" thing. I have been to Angel several times and never received anything but the standard HJ. One time, not even that. She said,"all done" before the flip. WTF. How do you get FS on your second visit?[/QUOTE]Honestly, it was more than I expected. That was partly the reason for my report. I don't think it's the norm and they are not as "up front" there as other places might be, so it may take some nuance, but as Jaxback has also attested to, it's not out of the question. As always YMMV.
Happy hunting!
Al
Anyone know a provider or AMP that excels in giving French lessons? Inbox me if you will. HJ is fine but sometimes I crave a bit more!
Also, to the fellow who went to King's in ST A, two of us gave good reviews a while back check for them. Never saw the Mamasan you spoke of!
[QUOTE=new2jax; 1116432]Anyone know a provider or AMP that excels in giving French lessons? Inbox me if you will. HJ is fine but sometimes I crave a bit more!
Also, to the fellow who went to King's in ST A, two of us gave good reviews a while back check for them. Never saw the Mamasan you spoke of! [/QUOTE]Just PM me on Kings if you get a chance, what they call a 'search feature' here is nothing to write home about. Maybe you should take a trip back there just to get a look at that woman, freaked me out.
The posts are back on Oct 31. Only say Jay, never the mamasan. So maybe a very good thing? Jay gave one heck of a solid massage too.
So I broke down and tried NTR the other day. Everyone is correct, certainly can't beat the price and the gals certainly could command more. The Hawaiin was not available so I saw the petite black therapist. While she was not what I would call goregous, she certainly satisfied my need to relax. My only issue is that it is in a residential neighborhood with older people that are always home. I suspect that as they get busier, some of those old people are going to get nosy.
So for me I probably won't be back unless the get an office somewhere, but it is definitely worth it.
[QUOTE=Brook Gillards; 1117307]So I broke down and tried NTR the other day. Everyone is correct, certainly can't beat the price and the gals certainly could command more. The Hawaiin was not available so I saw the petite black therapist. While she was not what I would call goregous, she certainly satisfied my need to relax. My only issue is that it is in a residential neighborhood with older people that are always home. I suspect that as they get busier, some of those old people are going to get nosy.
So for me I probably won't be back unless the get an office somewhere, but it is definitely worth it. [/QUOTE]This was also my concern. The apartment seemed better since people are always coming and going. But you notice stuff like this more in a regular neighborhood.
I haven't been there in a couple months. How's the talent looking? I frequent jax therapy off of bowden. The staff ain't the prettiest but technique is good and it's a sure thing for me. They also have a dal where you buy 9 massages and get the 10th free.
The last time I went to Aja the therapist was older but attractive. She was a little hesitant to finish until I promised no trouble. It was clean and nice session. I'm just wondering if they have any new little hotties working yet. I miss 6604 there was this one girl jade that was freakin escort hot that would pretty much let me do anything for standard tip. Ah memories.
Has anyone tried this one, been to NTR and other locations, kind of wary of NTR in a residential location right now?
If anyone has any info I would appreciate it
[url]http://jacksonville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/call-me-now-if-you-demand-the-very-best-26/2269637[/url]
[QUOTE=Legalas; 1117903]Has anyone tried this one, been to NTR and other locations, kind of wary of NTR in a residential location right now?
If anyone has any info I would appreciate it.
[url]http://jacksonville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/call-me-now-if-you-demand-the-very-best-26/2269637[/url][/QUOTE]I'll probably take some heat for this, but sometimes the environment here is populated by sensitive or somewhat irritable types who react negatively to questions posted by newbies, and who forget what its like to start out new and how difficult what this forum calls a 'search engine' is to find information without a LOT of clicking through multiple (20+) pages. They could easily write a couple of lines to save folks significant effort, but I guess people who aren't their friends have to earn their bones the hardway. C'est La Vie!
Anyway, the long and short answer to your question is that it seems the dream is doable, but somewhat questionable. The photo was apparently taken at a distance for a good reason. Venture out watchfully.
That took me 90 seconds (fast writer) and I hope it saves you tons of time.
[QUOTE=DeerStand; 1118178]I'll probably take some heat for this, but sometimes the environment here is populated by sensitive or somewhat irritable types who react negatively to questions posted by newbies, and who forget what its like to start out new and how difficult what this forum calls a 'search engine' is to find information without a LOT of clicking through multiple (20+) pages. They could easily write a couple of lines to save folks significant effort, but I guess people who aren't their friends have to earn their bones the hardway. C'est La Vie!
Anyway, the long and short answer to your question is that it seems the dream is doable, but somewhat questionable. The photo was apparently taken at a distance for a good reason. Venture out watchfully.
That took me 90 seconds (fast writer) and I hope it saves you tons of time.[/QUOTE]Deerstand Kudos to you as some of the people on this board think that because you are new on this board you are actually NEW! I have tried as you have said to search and it is not easy to narrow down topics sometimes with many pages showing up.
I have been around for awhile just not on this board!
[QUOTE=DeerStand; 1118178]I'll probably take some heat for this, but sometimes the environment here is populated by sensitive or somewhat irritable types who react negatively to questions posted by newbies, and who forget what its like to start out new and how difficult what this forum calls a 'search engine' is to find information without a LOT of clicking through multiple (20+) pages. They could easily write a couple of lines to save folks significant effort, but I guess people who aren't their friends have to earn their bones the hardway. C'est La Vie!
Anyway, the long and short answer to your question is that it seems the dream is doable, but somewhat questionable. The photo was apparently taken at a distance for a good reason. Venture out watchfully.
That took me 90 seconds (fast writer) and I hope it saves you tons of time. [/QUOTE]On the contrary, I have to say Sicily was very forgiving this time. I was surprised. I think he was great in his response.
[QUOTE=Fsugrad; 1118253]Deerstand Kudos to you as some of the people on this board think that because you are new on this board you are actually NEW! I have tried as you have said to search and it is not easy to narrow down topics sometimes with many pages showing up.
I have been around for awhile just not on this board! [/QUOTE]I am guilty of this. I have told people to use the search option as well. Then I tried to use it the other day. I now feel their pain.
If you're looking for a nice Body Rub operation give HOB After Dark a try. I've made a few visits in the past month and have been satisfied each time. No FS or French lessons but a good time can be had. Two girl sessions are available. I have no affiliation with HOB but a couple of the ladies have asked that I pass the word. PM's accepted from experienced posters for details.
Happy Hunting.
[url]http://jacksonville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hob-after-dark-ok-its-time-to-get-back-to-work-23/2257727[/url]
I too, have to add excellent body rub service. Been heading there off and on in recent months, each time satisfied. Last time, chose 2 girls for 1/2 hour, but was so good, extended to 1hr, after their very convincing argument of a better time with 2 and boy were they right. I hope their lineup stays intact because I'd hate to see any of their lineup leave. Let's keep 'them busy & keep 'them around! No FS as stated, but I can't complain at all, especially since I usually head there between 00:30-1:30, when usually there's nothing else open. I love the hours!
Had only a half-hour or so. Called NTR and set up an appointment with Jackie. They were able to have her ready when I arrived. She is beautiful! Amazing smile and you are right about that look. She is great at what she does and I very much enjoyed.
I did feel a bit weird about being in a neighborhood, but once she started, that all went away.
Went by there one day last week. They were busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest, so I had to wait a few. Got an older girlnamed PB (Man, some of them are hard to understand!) Anyway, she wanted to nego hard but settled on a BBBJ, very good skills. She was a little rough looking but had nice body. Probably will go back.
Stay Safe
[QUOTE=Crazy Jeff;1121892]Got an older girl named PB (Man, some of them are hard to understand!)...She was a little rough looking but had nice body.[/QUOTE]I agree with Jeff. I understood her name as Phoebe. I think the "rough look" had to do with a crappy make-up job. Anyway, ditto on his observations and experience.
[QUOTE=Drew Park;1122177]I agree with Jeff. I understood her name as Phoebe. I think the "rough look" had to do with a crappy make-up job. Anyway, ditto on his observations and experience.[/QUOTE]So let me get this straight, her makeup was so fucking bad (meaning she had it ass-smeared all over her face, neck, mouth and forehead) that she had a 'rough look'? C'mon.
[QUOTE=Don Magic Juan;1118591]I too, have to add excellent body rub service. Been heading there off and on in recent months, each time satisfied. Last time, chose 2 girls for 1/2 hour, but was so good, extended to 1hr, after their very convincing argument of a better time with 2 and boy were they right. I hope their lineup stays intact because I'd hate to see any of their lineup leave. Let's keep 'them busy & keep 'them around! No FS as stated, but I can't complain at all, especially since I usually head there between 00:30-1:30, when usually there's nothing else open. I love the hours![/QUOTE]I will have to agree, they are running a top notch place over there, owner is having to move soon to a larger place it is almost impossible to get in now with out an appt & they just hired Anna & Sophia. No FS but I have never left unhappy.
[QUOTE=Whats Amping;1122552]So let me get this straight, her makeup was so fucking bad (meaning she had it ass-smeared all over her face, neck, mouth and forehead) that she had a 'rough look'? C'mon.[/QUOTE]No one said she has anything "ass-smeared all over her face, neck, mouth and forehead." In my view she over did it with eye makeup. That contributed to a tawdry look. No more, no less. If that bothers you then go elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Drew Park;1122778]No one said she has anything "ass-smeared all over her face, neck, mouth and forehead." In my view she over did it with eye makeup. That contributed to a tawdry look. No more, no less. If that bothers you then go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Hey, if it doesn't bother you then it doesn't bother me, afterall its your tongue and dick.
Owner is advertising for himself on here. Went to see the girls the other night not pleased. Very skanky and the office is dirty, bad side of town, very weird and not good. Would not recommend guys,
[QUOTE=Manny13;1123792]Owner is advertising for himself on here. Went to see the girls the other night not pleased. Very skanky and the office is dirty, bad side of town, very weird and not good. Would not recommend guys,[/QUOTE]Manny, your post about H. O. B is very interesting, you are the first to complain. You complained about the office being dirty, that is the front office and not the rooms? You also said the owner is advertising for himself, I don't think he gives massages. As for the girls being skanks, we could argue about this all day. Bad side of town, is there a good side of town in Jacksonville, now some neighborhoods are better than others but there are crimes committed all over Jacksonville, some reported and some not reported in the media, you know, to keep the good side of town good. Very weird and not good, I am lost on this? I would like to know which young lady you saw that was a skank.
Another interesting thing, you raved about Anna who does NOTHING we are looking for in this forum. Here is where I am also confused, her picture was posted as a provider for H. O. B on Thursday or Friday but has since been removed. Don't know what happened there but I am wondering if it had anything to do with your negative post.
Manny13 would be Anna. Read "his" reviews and you can see what I am talking about. I would assume that HOB hired Anna and she did not like it, money problems possibly, and decided to cut ties and go solo again. Instead of doing it the classy way, she is on here posing as "Manny" and leaving a negative review on HOB. I have come to realize that in this business and hobby, that you have to wade through BS reviews like this and actually do your own research (on here and out in the field) to see the what really is going on. I have been to HOB and was satisfied with my service and left happy. That's my two cents and I will go back to my hole.
[QUOTE=Old School; 1124103]Manny, your post about H. O. B is very interesting, you are the first to complain. You complained about the office being dirty, that is the front office and not the rooms? You also said the owner is advertising for himself, I don't think he gives massages. As for the girls being skanks, we could argue about this all day. Bad side of town, is there a good side of town in Jacksonville, now some neighborhoods are better than others but there are crimes committed all over Jacksonville, some reported and some not reported in the media, you know, to keep the good side of town good. Very weird and not good, I am lost on this? I would like to know which young lady you saw that was a skank.
Another interesting thing, you raved about Anna who does NOTHING we are looking for in this forum. Here is where I am also confused, her picture was posted as a provider for H. O. B on Thursday or Friday but has since been removed. Don't know what happened there but I am wondering if it had anything to do with your negative post.[/QUOTE]
Thats funny, the location is not bad, and is actually in a fairly decent. I know one of the girls that work there and wouldn't agree with your assessment at all.
[QUOTE=Manny13;1123792]Owner is advertising for himself on here. Went to see the girls the other night not pleased. Very skanky and the office is dirty, bad side of town, very weird and not good. Would not recommend guys.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gravytrain904;1124115]Manny13 would be Anna. Read "his" reviews and you can see what I am talking about. I would assume that HOB hired Anna and she did not like it, money problems possibly, and decided to cut ties and go solo again. Instead of doing it the classy way, she is on here posing as "Manny" and leaving a negative review on HOB. I have come to realize that in this business and hobby, that you have to wade through BS reviews like this and actually do your own research (on here and out in the field) to see the what really is going on. I have been to HOB and was satisfied with my service and left happy. That's my two cents and I will go back to my hole.[/QUOTE]I would have to agree. All "his posts" are the same. Did not like my review of anna, etc. Said she is great but no HE? Really? Wow. I see she is also down to $50 again on her posts. Man she is always all over he place with her prices. $50, $80, $100, $120, etc.
Tell me, manny. How much did yo pay for your massage, and what was included?
I love these providers who think we are stupid.
As for HOB all I can say is this. I saw melanie when she first started out ALONG time ago. It hink it has been over 2 years now. Have never had a problem with her EVER, and everytime I have been to HOB it has always been clean and never had a problem. Wish I could have talked to melanie before she got wrapped up in this. Could have warned her.
Sorry meant to submitt this here not as a seperate thread:
Bonanza.
So I got a little extra money from a side gig and the wifey was out of town so I decide to go on a little Bonanza this week. I'm going to be taking a little break but decide to provide some parting posts of this weeks activity.
1. Arjon Massage. Massage4jax on CL. This is the one that runs out of the tailor shop on Phillips. Been seeing the female therapists there. Probably a 4-5 on the looks scale, but nice non-traditional massage. I would put it about a 6 out of 10. They are experiencing really slow business so she may be open to new customers, ordinarily she says she is REALLY cautious and I believe her. Going to set you back 70 total.
2. NTR. Well I finally saw Jackie. If only they were not in a residential area. Yeah easily a 9. 5 on the non-traditional part of the non-traditional massage =). The guy running this place must have some talk game out of this world. How does he get these females willing to work for peanuts? I true PIMP in my opinion. Best deal out there. I just continue to worry that with the deal they are doing they are just going to draw to much attention to themselves.
3. Athena Massage. So this one I was keeping on the down-low for a while. If you can get her comfortable with you, you will throughly enjoy. The massage is about a 7 just in itself, but if you add the non-traditional. Easily a 8. 5 to 9. She is definitely YMMV chick though. Now she has another girl working with her. Fresh out massage school, very pretty petite black girl. She doesn't know the game yet, so I wouldn't expect much from her. She was very drape conscious, although she gives a very good massage and does this thing where she gets on the table and walks over you on her hands and knees that just feels great. I only tip 10. 20.
4. Aja Health Spa. Not big on Asian places, but visited this one this week cause everyone says it looks so clean and it was. Saw some girl (30 something) very petite and ok looking. She asked if I had been there before I said no but that I had been to Southside, she asked me who I saw. I just said Sha Sha and she said she very pretty girl and then it was on. This massage was amazing in my opinion, had to slow her down on the non-traditional part, but after that it was all good.
5. Beach Bliss. Ad on CL for Celeste. An old standby at the beach. Known her for years. She is strictly non-traditonal, and not much to look at, but old reliable of your just looking for a nice massage and non-traditional. Whole experience sets you back 60.
Lastly I have a question. I tried unsuccessfully to get in contact with EuroSpa and every time I go by there they are closed. Did something happen to them? I really wanted to see "L" one more time before I went on my break. Do they make you leave a message, because no one would pick up the phone. I went by the place and it says under new managment on the sign.
Anyway you guys be safe out there. I am still going to sign on from time to time, but I am dropping out of the active hunt for a while. Just had to get it out of my system one last time. Hopefully. You know how addictions work.
[QUOTE=Brook Gillards; 1126914]Sorry meant to submitt this here not as a seperate thread:
Bonanza.
So I got a little extra money from a side gig and the wifey was out of town so I decide to go on a little Bonanza this week. I'm going to be taking a little break but decide to provide some parting posts of this weeks activity.
1. Arjon Massage. Massage4jax on CL. This is the one that runs out of the tailor shop on Phillips. Been seeing the female therapists there. Probably a 4-5 on the looks scale, but nice non-traditional massage. I would put it about a 6 out of 10. They are experiencing really slow business so she may be open to new customers, ordinarily she says she is REALLY cautious and I believe her. Going to set you back 70 total.
2. NTR. Well I finally saw Jackie. If only they were not in a residential area. Yeah easily a 9. 5 on the non-traditional part of the non-traditional massage =). The guy running this place must have some talk game out of this world. How does he get these females willing to work for peanuts? I true PIMP in my opinion. Best deal out there. I just continue to worry that with the deal they are doing they are just going to draw to much attention to themselves.
3. Athena Massage. So this one I was keeping on the down-low for a while. If you can get her comfortable with you, you will throughly enjoy. The massage is about a 7 just in itself, but if you add the non-traditional. Easily a 8. 5 to 9. She is definitely YMMV chick though. Now she has another girl working with her. Fresh out massage school, very pretty petite black girl. She doesn't know the game yet, so I wouldn't expect much from her. She was very drape conscious, although she gives a very good massage and does this thing where she gets on the table and walks over you on her hands and knees that just feels great. I only tip 10. 20.
4. Aja Health Spa. Not big on Asian places, but visited this one this week cause everyone says it looks so clean and it was. Saw some girl (30 something) very petite and ok looking. She asked if I had been there before I said no but that I had been to Southside, she asked me who I saw. I just said Sha Sha and she said she very pretty girl and then it was on. This massage was amazing in my opinion, had to slow her down on the non-traditional part, but after that it was all good.
5. Beach Bliss. Ad on CL for Celeste. An old standby at the beach. Known her for years. She is strictly non-traditonal, and not much to look at, but old reliable of your just looking for a nice massage and non-traditional. Whole experience sets you back 60.
Lastly I have a question. I tried unsuccessfully to get in contact with EuroSpa and every time I go by there they are closed. Did something happen to them? I really wanted to see "L" one more time before I went on my break. Do they make you leave a message, because no one would pick up the phone. I went by the place and it says under new managment on the sign.
Anyway you guys be safe out there. I am still going to sign on from time to time, but I am dropping out of the active hunt for a while. Just had to get it out of my system one last time. Hopefully. You know how addictions work. [/QUOTE]A month or two ago "L" had Euro Spa up for sale. I can only assume she sold it if under new management. After moving to Atlantic Blvd. It has been like an albatross around her neck.