Supereloquent's Reports - Philadelphia

I actually hate to do this. Very recently I had a terrific date with Janine and this one was a bust. But it is what it is. Apparently Janine can run hot or cold depending upon how she feels.

I made a telephone date with Janine. She suggested a place to meet and said she would be there "in about an hour." I got there 15 minutes early and nursed an extra large coffee from DD. I knew the meeting place to be close to where Janine lives off the K, so I expected her to be somewhat on time. Twenty minutes after the appointed time, I was getting a bit irritated and called her again. She was still at home! However, she said she would be there in 5 minutes. Twenty-five minutes later she showed up. I was annoyed to say the least. If I was respectful of her time by setting an appointment then I expected her to be respectful of my time as well. Apparently that isn't such a 2 way street with some SWs.

Janine wasn't feeling well. She had a pain in her stomach. I sympathized with that and offered to postpone the date. There wasn't any point in aggravating her pain, especially since I had an indoor FS date in mind. But she said she would be fine and that the pain was probably from something she had just eaten. Even so, she admitted she was going to see the doctor for this in the afternoon. All this should just have sent warning bells off in my head to call off the date. I guess some SWs will tough anything out, even pain; the bottom line is that they just want to make the bucks.

We got to the notel and Janine was having trouble just getting undressed without wincing from the pain. This was turning into a dismal scene, not the erotic and sensual time I had envisioned. I thought that at least getting my cock sucked might be fun given the great job Janine had done last time. But she did a very lackluster and unmotivated job and was clearly anxious to get to the fucking part and get it over with. I mounted her mish and she was obviously in pain. I wasn't sure if that was from her stomach condition or the tight fit. Later she told me it was both. It was not much fun to fuck someone whose face was all screwed up in agony like she was having a kid. In the midst of her wincing and moaning (NOT sensually) she said "Just do what you have to do." That was about as exciting as fucking a wet dishrag. Luckily I was super horny and busted a fast nut. Cumming feels good any way you slice it, but I don't fuck SWs just to get off. I can do that with my trusty right hand. I really do want the girl to enjoy it too and get into it. It's part of the mental fun. Otherwise, I would just as soon fantasize in the shower.

Justine is a sweet girl and has a cute face and a nice spinner body, but I would have to give this experience an overall rating of 2 stars. It really is about the mental as well as the physical for me. Maybe someone else might have enjoyed perversely delivering pain, but I just found it to be a total downer. I would be inclined to date her again only because I have also enjoyed good experiences with her, and even one terrific experience. But I would have to be very honest with her up front about my expectations.

Janine doesn't own a computer but I know she has a friend who reads this forum and clues her in as to the posts, so she is likely to be very disappointed in this review. But if you date me you should be prepared to bring your A game or read/discover the sad truth thereafter. I don't pull punches or play favorites. If you earned a bad rating or a good rating you most likely deserved it, regardless of the reasons.

I was expecting a much stronger reaction (as you stated, opening up your flame thrower full throttle). Kudos on a well-written and scholarly response.

As far as the "Deep Throat" musings, I am astonished to find that there are mongers who are completely insane? Going bareback has to be the absolutely most misdirected idea that anyone could ever have--I guess there is a whole "new generation" of fools who think they are supermen and apparently never read much about HIV/AIDS.

I can understand BBBJ, as the science on that is supportive of there being minimal risk--but any other form of unprotected sex in this day and age borders on criminal negligence. Hell, I wouldn't bang a girl I picked up in a nice bar without a coat under any circumstances!

Deep Throat thought that it would be fun to hear "reverse complaints" from mongers, things that have irritated them about SWs. I think many of these have been aired on this forum, and I don't think mongers are "shy" about coming forward with such, or wanting to be anonymously hidden and communicating through a trusted third party.

So here is a complaint I haven't seen much of in here that seems to have occurred to me a few too many times in the past week, and that is SW telephone appointment courtesy (or more appropriately the lack thereof).

I already related my story of setting a date with Janine and having her show up 45 minutes late. That really toasts my buns. When I set an appointment time I show up on time and I expect SWs to show up on time as well. If there is a reason I can't make it I have a good excuse and call and let her know and expect the same in return. Being "fashionably late" may be cute for a civi but it doesn't cut any ice with me on the Ave. Otherwise why make a telephone appointment in the first place? One may as well troll the Ave rather than be tied to one spot for 45 minutes waiting. In 45 minutes, with light traffic, I could make 2 complete round trip tours of the K.

The other thing that really ticks me off is making a date with a SW and she calls you sometime before with a cancellation, offering some lame excuse. The worst of these is a cancellation right before the appointed time. Do they think you are stupid? They picked up a date and don't feel like waiting for you. The most obvious of these is when you are already on the K and heading in their direction, about to be there in a few minutes, and they call and say, "Gee, don't be mad at me...but..." If you are a regular (or the SW wants you to be, which, hopefully, is likely if she gave you her digits), then she should treat you with the same priority with which she expects to be treated. OR, she shouldn't have made the appointment in the first place.

Sometimes just cruising the K seems to be the best solution. It's hit or miss, but sometimes no more hit or miss than using the telephone.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]Deep Throat thought that it would be fun to hear "reverse complaints" from mongers, things that have irritated them about SWs.[/QUOTE]
Well since you asked, I have my top four countdown:

#4 When a SW offers me a phone number that doesn't work. I'm not even talking about it not working the next week or even the next day, I'm talking about calling right there and it's out of service.

#3 Rushing. Saying "Are you gonna cum" or something similar. You say that and we might as well start over. Five minutes isn't gonna cut it. However if you're relaxed and act like you're into it I think it's an added turn on, it enhances the experience and makes me cum faster.

#2 Asking me to drive you to cop. Not gonna happen, I'm willing to risk my ass for some ass, but I'm not willing to drive you up to a dealer and wait while you make a transaction. I'm not naive to the habits of alot of girls out there but take care of that before or after.

#1 Trying to get high in my car. ARE YOU SERIOUS? No it's not okay if you smoke crack in my car, I don't care if I have dark tint, we're on a deserted street whatever. I'm not trying to get booked over your habit. It's one thing if we're indoors and you wanna take care of that before we get down to business, but not outside in the car for all to see.

Happy Hunting, Happy Being Hunted
BadBoy

I spoke with a SW last week who usually provides accurate intel about what is happening on the Ave. She said there is a SW with light brunette hair, sometimes pulled back in a bun, named Robin (Robyn?) who hangs in the Buckius area. Supposedly this SW fucks anyone bareback who wants it, and has been passing around gonorrhea and who knows what else. Does anyone have any more information on this?

Not that what Coconut Poke said bothered me one little bit about providing direct quotations from PMs as enabling the readers to be "closer to the source," but here is a direct quote which Deep Throat apparently didn't mind sharing:

"I got another good two to add. You can quote this, since people seem to think you're lying or something.

A man came today, passed by a few times and pulled over across the street from the train station. I went over, got in and we talked for a minute. He told me he wanted a BJ and I quoted the price. He said, "OK" and said he wanted to see my tits so I could prove I wasn't a cop. I showed him and after that, he says, "Are you going to be here for a while?" I told him that the nature of the game is that I may or may not be, depending on what happens, but that I will definitely be gone by 2. He says, "I need to go to the ATM and get some money and I'd like to come back for you." This has happened to me several times. If you know you're looking for a date, why didn't you do that before you started cruising? And maybe he was just one of those who gets off on seeing tits and wacked off and got a "date" for free.

There is another man who I ran into a while ago. When I approached the window of his car, all I could smell was the strongest smell of urine. It was sickening. I talked to him through the window and noticed many pairs of nasty stained panties laying all over his car. He went on to tell me that he likes to place his hand under a girls crotch, have her pee on his hand as he jerks off with the other hand. When she's done peeing, he likes to follow up with a BJ. CRAZY RIGHT? Um, no thanks!

Another kind that makes me crazy. The guy who shows up with a crackpipe in his hand and is so smoked out of his mind that he can't even talk. What if I was a cop? He'd be busted for two things! I encountered one of them today. He wanted to pay me with crack and I don't smoke. Again, no thanks!"

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]Deep Throat thought that it would be fun to hear "reverse complaints" from mongers, things that have irritated them about SWs. I think many of these have been aired on this forum, and I don't think mongers are "shy" about coming forward with such, or wanting to be anonymously hidden and communicating through a trusted third party.[/QUOTE]#1. SW's who push the idea of a tip right before starting. You should just state that at the time of the agreed services/fees. Who is going to flat out say no when you're an inch away from starting?

#2. SW's who get in the car with a lit cigarette. Whether I smoke or not it's rude.

#3. SW's with bad hygiene.

#4. SW's who waive, hoot n' holler while you're driving down the K.

#5. Bodyguard/Pimp/Boyfriend who lurks nearby. Makes you wonder if they're LE or a Thug.

#6. SW's who insist on their parking spots. WTF?

#7. SW's who help themselves to change from the console

#8. SW's who steal from customers (hasn't happened to me yet)

#9. SW's who get you to drive them around on errands. I didn't sign up for this!

Those are excellent lists by BadBoy and Billneedscoffee that capture probably 95% of the things some SWs do that annoy me (or go further than annoying me, like in the case of robbing me) I'll toss in just a few others that come to mind if we're trying to compile a full list:

- Open up your glove compartment or center console without asking
- Fiddle with your radio, change the station, raise the volume w/o asking
- Want to talk through your car window or with the door open before getting in. Please get in immediately and we'll talk once we're rolling.
- Ask to use your cell phone

On the street this SW looked like a prime piece of eye candy. You could even see from 50 yards away that she had a very pretty face. She was also attractively thin with a nice ass, a little tall (maybe 5 feet 7) to be a true spinner, but certainly a nice total package. I went around the block to catch her down a side street and I thought for sure someone would have scooped her up, because she was definitely in the top 5% of SWs on the Ave in the looks category. I felt lucky when I found her still there after my spin around the block, and she looked just as good sitting next to me as she did a good distance away on the K.

On the way to the Carlyle we had a pleasant discussion and she seemed quite warm and personable. Jennifer is 30, although her face could pass for younger. She says she has been working the Ave on and off for 5 years or so and even before that, taking time off here and there. All I know is that I had never seen her before. I would have definitely remembered. She seemed to know that she looks good. She was applying makeup all the way during the drive: lip gloss, eye liner, eye shadow, powder, and even some sparkles. I liked the sparkles especially; there was something about them that seemed slutty and hot. I have seen a few dancers that wear them as well. I guess she was trying to look good because I had mentioned that I wanted to take some pics, with which she was ok.

When we got to the Carlyle, and she started to undress, I had a letdown on my anticipation of what her body would look like. She looked a lot better dressed than undressed. Her tits were tiny and saggy, with thickish brownish nipples (I prefer the cute perky pink ones) and not at all attractive. Her stomach didn’t have stretch marks nor was it flabby, but it wasn’t the taut spinner-like tummy I would have desired. Her ass was a bit saggy as well and looked better in those jeans than naked. And, while I can tolerate trimmed and would rather shaved, a very hairy bush is a turnoff.

Jennifer was up for a few pics but quickly got anxious to get going and she wasn’t game for any BJ shots. She did an above average job giving me a BBBJ, nothing fantastic but certainly not terrible. She couldn’t quite DT me but she had a nice and exciting technique. Fucking her was a bit routine; it made me wish I had finished with her sucking my cock. I almost pulled out and did that. It wasn’t like she was a terrible lay; it’s just that she obviously wasn’t into it, like, ho hum, fuck me good, big boy. Looking at her watch would have been the perfect metaphor, like in the movie Klute when Jane Fonda does that while she is fucking a client and making believe she is having fun.

Ratings? Face: 5 stars (she was very pretty; you can’t take that away from her); Body: 2 ½ stars (give her a boob job, a tummy tuck, plump up and shape her ass, and mow the lawn and she might have a body to match her face); BJ: 3 stars (uninspired ,but nice technique); Fucking: 2 ½ stars (the only really good thing about fucking her was having a pretty face to stare at; you certainly didn’t have to close your eyes and fantasize); Personality: 3 stars (she was 5 stars in the car talking, but 2 stars fucking, where it counts); Overall? 2 ½ stars; Repeatability? I’ll pass (except maybe if I am hungry for a quick car BJ, unless she gets a personality transplant for when she is fucking).

It doesn’t happen very often but Jennifer is proof positive that what you think you see isn’t always what you actually get. I think the best use of her is for her lips to be wrapped around your cock as you watch that pretty face bob up and down on it. I can't dispute that was a hot sight to behold.

I definitely should have shaved her before taking these pics and fucking her.

I dated Jen at least 7-8 times back well over 5 years ago--she was one of my ATF's. Time and addiction have clearly taken their toll on her--she used to look fantastic without her clothes on. She was always a girl who drifted in and out of the street scene--back in the day, you might not find her for months at a time.

Jen and I had some really nice dates--she performed the best CG on me that I have ever had, and her attitude and personality made it that much better. I remember her riding me sweetly, while smiling down at me and asking me if I liked it.

She was not like most SW's, and a true case of YMMV. I was nice to her, and went out of my way a few times to "help" her out--she returned the kindness in bed.

Glad to know Jen is still amongst the living--sad to see how her looks have deteriorated over time.

[QUOTE=Coconut Poke]Thanks for sharing this, Super. I felt that it made the anecdotes come alive, and seeing Throat's writing style (which was impressive) helped get to know her a little better. I don't need to know her identity; I want to feel her personality.

As stated previously, I admire the quantity and quality of what you bring to the forum. Keep it up. And let us know when your book comes out.[/QUOTE]

You can be annoying and antagonistic and a pain in the butt, and then have a flip side which is thoughtful, intelligent and appreciative. All I can say is that you are a real puzzle to me yet, CP.

Your observation is right on the money that Deep Throat (in her various guises) is impressive, and is not a typical SW on the Ave. She is smart, is not a drug user (although there is no definitive way to prove such), uses a computer, is an avid reader of this forum, has a distinctive perspective, and exhibits a writing style that shows a better command of the English language than many of the mongers on here.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]I definitely should have shaved her before taking these pics and fucking her.[/QUOTE]
She does look like she's got Buckwheat in a leg lock. You managed a great total package shot of your subject and you're 100% right, she looks alot better with the clothes on!

Great Report Super
BadBoy

[QUOTE=Chriseff] ...Glad to know Jen is still amongst the living--sad to see how her looks have deteriorated over time.[/QUOTE]

Her face is still first rate, but her body has the mileage of a 40 something. You can see for yourself in the pics I took.

I think years on the K are like dog years: you age in some ratio, like maybe somewhere between 3 to 5 to one.

[QUOTE=Ssssbadboyssss]She does look like she's got Buckwheat in a leg lock. You managed a great total package shot of your subject and you're 100% right, she looks alot better with the clothes on!

Great Report Super
BadBoy[/QUOTE]

OMG...I laughed over that phrase! I must be out of it because I had never heard it before but I looked it up, and it is even in the Urban Dictionary.

Boot camp should be mandatory for SWs, which should include basic hygiene, cock sucking 101 (the drill sergeants should be MILFs), knowing and avoiding the 10 things that most irritate mongers and rule number one: keep the coochie hairless.