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Agreed on 200 and can host. Then needed $65 dollars to pay sister before hosting. Would not uber. Would not get picked up. Not comfortable with hotel. Did not respond once I told her I do not pay before meeting.
kjikli29 - Similar story with pay before meet. Also caught her jumping locations from Plainfield to FL the next day.
[QUOTE=MnCuckold;4795835]I note that people point out pros, who definitely frequent SA. What I'm less clear on is why anyone really cares whether they are also on Eros or Tryst. It seems a distinction without much of a difference to me. If you're paying your agreed to PPM rate to them, whether you contacted them via SA or Eros, it's the same essential thing.[/QUOTE]I'm on and off SA because I don't find being with most pros to be a fun. Nine out of 10 times a pro is like good masturbation for me. And even when it's good, it feels a bit unsatisfying and I enjoy it less, because I know the pro is just punching a clock. Conversely, I've had SBs who I literally can not wait to see again. I've had multiple SBs tell me that our arrangement was the best sex of their life--not hard to believe if I remember how I good I was at sex as a college sophomore. Some of these girls will remember me in 60 years. I like that. And even hot pros almost all tend to look stripper-hot to me. The average SB for me is more attractive than 90% of the pros I've seen, more like a college soccer player or high school cheerleader.
Even ignoring all that, just the sugar situation is hotter for me. I usually see inexperienced SBs and them being nervous and later feeling dirty and wild and secret, it's sort of a kink.
[QUOTE=GoldenGreek;4795219]Not true at all on my end.
I've had 10* experiences with girls I paid 250-300.
Bodies were 9++ and face 7 or 8.
Try to negotiate at least.
The Last three girls you reported on you paid 500.
Two of the threw I talked to I got down to 350 with little effort.[/QUOTE]GoldenGreek, Pau and others appreciate the feedback. I have been trying to exercise better patience and driving the price down. The three SB I am working on right now again started at 500, and two are down to 400. So lets see. I am also curious about hosting SB. I can host always but am sort of worried of a crazy outcome with someone (who may get start screaming, get violent etc). I am really not a fan of the places these SBs are hosting at. Hygiene concerns and most of the time the location is awful. So am curious on people's opinions and cautionary measures you taken. Thanks.
[QUOTE=MaharajaSP;4796009]GoldenGreek, Pau and others appreciate the feedback. I have been trying to exercise better patience and driving the price down. The three SB I am working on right now again started at 500, and two are down to 400. So lets see. I am also curious about hosting SB. I can host always but am sort of worried of a crazy outcome with someone (who may get start screaming, get violent etc). I am really not a fan of the places these SBs are hosting at. Hygiene concerns and most of the time the location is awful. So am curious on people's opinions and cautionary measures you taken. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've never met anyone who can host at their place for a first date. I'm just too paranoid and know I would not have a good time if I did it. That's just me. I'm willing to spend the extra for a hotel for the first time and make sure everything is good. If she's a keeper and can host going forward, I'll go that route.
[QUOTE=MaharajaSP;4796009]GoldenGreek, Pau and others appreciate the feedback. I have been trying to exercise better patience and driving the price down. The three SB I am working on right now again started at 500, and two are down to 400. So lets see. I am also curious about hosting SB. I can host always but am sort of worried of a crazy outcome with someone (who may get start screaming, get violent etc). I am really not a fan of the places these SBs are hosting at. Hygiene concerns and most of the time the location is awful. So am curious on people's opinions and cautionary measures you taken. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Get a hotel room first. It they seem normal and are not drug users or psycho you can invite them on any future dates.
[QUOTE=Theargent;4795952]I'm on and off SA because I don't find being with most pros to be a fun. Nine out of 10 times a pro is like good masturbation for me. And even when it's good, it feels a bit unsatisfying and I enjoy it less, because I know the pro is just punching a clock. Conversely, I've had SBs who I literally can not wait to see again. I've had multiple SBs tell me that our arrangement was the best sex of their life--not hard to believe if I remember how I good I was at sex as a college sophomore. Some of these girls will remember me in 60 years. I like that. And even hot pros almost all tend to look stripper-hot to me. The average SB for me is more attractive than 90% of the pros I've seen, more like a college soccer player or high school cheerleader.
Even ignoring all that, just the sugar situation is hotter for me. I usually see inexperienced SBs and them being nervous and later feeling dirty and wild and secret, it's sort of a kink.[/QUOTE]I am off a different mindset, of course the pros are doing this full time and many on SA are not that being said at the END OF THE DAY THESE GIRLS ARE FUCKING US FOR MONEY. I don't think they are as innocent as many of us give them credit for. To any guy including me were the girls tell them that is the best sex of their life and how hard you made them cum, ask them if you could see them for free for a booty call. If they say NO or ignore you I would assume they are bullshitting.
[QUOTE=FightingFungus;4796496]I am off a different mindset, of course the pros are doing this full time and many on SA are not that being said at the END OF THE DAY THESE GIRLS ARE FUCKING US FOR MONEY. I don't think they are as innocent as many of us give them credit for. To any guy including me were the girls tell them that is the best sex of their life and how hard you made them cum, ask them if you could see them for free for a booty call. If they say NO or ignore you I would assume they are bullshitting.[/QUOTE]Sure. Some of them are definitely JUST fucking me for my money. And for some of them the money is a perk. But I've had multiple girls stay the night when I was sort of trying to get them to leave. I've had multiple girls turn down money or try to turn down money, which I gently encouraged them to take. I've had girls try to take me to meet their friends out of state over the weekend (I made an excuse why I couldn't go) And I've had girls tell me they just wanted someone with money in their corner, but didn't need a gift every time. I've had girls suggest they'd be interested in vanilla and another that wanted to hang out when I was babysitting by nephew. For all those girls, the money is putting me to the front of the line over other guys she might see. Or it turns me from a 7 to a 9. Whatever. I don't care. I just like it.
Now, more than once I've had a girl just want to meet me at my hotel when I'm visiting San Diego or Toronto or something and I agreed to it. Every time, four or five times, it's been my worst sugar experiences. It felt like seeing an escort and each time I vowed to not meet someone again who didn't make me chase them a little first.
Maybe another way to say it--I don't care if she's fucking *me* for my money. But I'm less interested in girls who will fuck whomever opens the hotel room door for money.
I can't find her profile but her user name is or was Miamulani. She is early 20's and the pics areTGTB but wonder if anyone had seen her?
We texted 2 wk ago and she quoted me 1 G and I told her my zone is 300. The next day she asked me why I don't want to pay her 1 G 😂.
She went silent and last week texted me asking about my name and selfie cause she deleted the convos and she started texting me once or twice a day how is my day going and how is work so I thought she is a time waster. Today she asked me about my allowance and I said 200 - 300 ppm and she wanted to meet and greet first. Then out if the blue she says her previous dudes paid her 600 ppm and she can use the hotel room and room service after I leave and the room is under my name 🤔 I told her absolutely no because she can trash the room, have a party, drugs, use it as an escort and I don't want problems with the hotel or the cops. She texts back that trust is essential and I said trust have to be earned over a few dates. I though she will get pissy but she asked me if I can meet tonight or during the weekend. I told her that we have to clarify the price, the duration and the menu before we proceed but the hotel thing threw me off and will likely pass on her.
[QUOTE=StanKost;4797087]I can't find her profile but her user name is or was Miamulani. She is early 20's and the pics areTGTB but wonder if anyone had seen her?
We texted 2 wk ago and she quoted me 1 G and I told her my zone is 300. The next day she asked me why I don't want to pay her 1 G 😂.
She went silent and last week texted me asking about my name and selfie cause she deleted the convos and she started texting me once or twice a day how is my day going and how is work so I thought she is a time waster. Today she asked me about my allowance and I said 200 - 300 ppm and she wanted to meet and greet first. Then out if the blue she says her previous dudes paid her 600 ppm and she can use the hotel room and room service after I leave and the room is under my name 🤔 I told her absolutely no because she can trash the room, have a party, drugs, use it as an escort and I don't want problems with the hotel or the cops. She texts back that trust is essential and I said trust have to be earned over a few dates. I though she will get pissy but she asked me if I can meet tonight or during the weekend. I told her that we have to clarify the price, the duration and the menu before we proceed but the hotel thing threw me off and will likely pass on her.[/QUOTE]Here's her profile. If you can't see it she probably blocked you. I favorited her a couple weeks ago but haven't pursued anything yet. Let us know if go through with it.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6dff631a-cff2-4c25-8528-13d9c2995419[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrStashMan;4797134]Here's her profile. If you can't see it she probably blocked you. I favorited her a couple weeks ago but haven't pursued anything yet. Let us know if go through with it.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6dff631a-cff2-4c25-8528-13d9c2995419[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you she is the girl and I can see her profile from your link. May be I couldn't find her cause after she quoted me 1 K I deleted the message to avoid SA finding we are talking about numbers and when I searched her by name I spelled her with one I and the end at she has 3 I at the end. I don't know what to make of her, she was asking me when was the last time I had a gf and when I asked her do you mean SB and she is like what is SB? I will stay low and if she contacts me and we agree on a fair deal I may pull the trigger and report back unless some else had already done that and has a feed back.
[QUOTE=StanKost;4797142]Thank you she is the girl and I can see her profile from your link. May be I couldn't find her cause after she quoted me 1 K I deleted the message to avoid SA finding we are talking about numbers and when I searched her by name I spelled her with one I and the end at she has 3 I at the end. I don't know what to make of her, she was asking me when was the last time I had a gf and when I asked her do you mean SB and she is like what is SB? I will stay low and if she contacts me and we agree on a fair deal I may pull the trigger and report back unless some else had already done that and has a feed back.[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm just slow, but how do you search a profile by name? Didn't realize that was an option.
Don't waste your time on this chick she's the biggest time waster on SA. I think it's a game to her, one that she enjoys, to waste peoples time. She's been written about a few times on the board, here's a couple reviews below, there's more bad posts on her too if you search the board.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?19231-Arrangement-Reports&p=4573935&highlight=-13d9c2995419#post4573935 [/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?19231-Arrangement-Reports&p=4536744&highlight=-13d9c2995419#post4536744 [/URL]
[QUOTE=StanKost;4797087]I can't find her profile but her user name is or was Miamulani. She is early 20's and the pics areTGTB but wonder if anyone had seen her?
We texted 2 wk ago and she quoted me 1 G and I told her my zone is 300. The next day she asked me why I don't want to pay her 1 G 😂.
She went silent and last week texted me asking about my name and selfie cause she deleted the convos and she started texting me once or twice a day how is my day going and how is work so I thought she is a time waster. Today she asked me about my allowance and I said 200 - 300 ppm and she wanted to meet and greet first. Then out if the blue she says her previous dudes paid her 600 ppm and she can use the hotel room and room service after I leave and the room is under my name 🤔 I told her absolutely no because she can trash the room, have a party, drugs, use it as an escort and I don't want problems with the hotel or the cops. She texts back that trust is essential and I said trust have to be earned over a few dates. I though she will get pissy but she asked me if I can meet tonight or during the weekend. I told her that we have to clarify the price, the duration and the menu before we proceed but the hotel thing threw me off and will likely pass on her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrStashMan;4797134]Here's her profile. If you can't see it she probably blocked you. I favorited her a couple weeks ago but haven't pursued anything yet. Let us know if go through with it.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6dff631a-cff2-4c25-8528-13d9c2995419[/URL][/QUOTE]She can definitely do 300 without a doubt. I've seen her over a few months and stuck with her for some time because well. She's got a banging body; probably the best I've ever seen. Luckily I've recorded a handful of our encounters for future's sake. She's a little mental and I'm sure there's something wrong up there but I sidelined that thought on the account of her being so hot. Things went downhill the last month because of how unenthusiastic she was and stand-offish so I cut things off. We got to a point where I can give her 300 and she'd sleep over and bang it out in the morning.
If you can get your hands on her it's definitely worth a one time encounter. Let her meet you and 300 will be hard for her to turn down if she's gone all that way.
[QUOTE=MrStashMan;4797146]Maybe I'm just slow, but how do you search a profile by name? Didn't realize that was an option.[/QUOTE]On the main search page there are all the options to search like, age, race, body type and at the bottom of them there is a search by text box. Just type in the profile name. Sometimes you can just type in part of it and get results.
[QUOTE=Theargent;4796938]Sure. Some of them are definitely JUST fucking me for my money. And for some of them the money is a perk. But I've had multiple girls stay the night when I was sort of trying to get them to leave. I've had multiple girls turn down money or try to turn down money, which I gently encouraged them to take. I've had girls try to take me to meet their friends out of state over the weekend (I made an excuse why I couldn't go) And I've had girls tell me they just wanted someone with money in their corner, but didn't need a gift every time. I've had girls suggest they'd be interested in vanilla and another that wanted to hang out when I was babysitting by nephew. For all those girls, the money is putting me to the front of the line over other guys she might see. Or it turns me from a 7 to a 9. Whatever. I don't care. I just like it.
Now, more than once I've had a girl just want to meet me at my hotel when I'm visiting San Diego or Toronto or something and I agreed to it. Every time, four or five times, it's been my worst sugar experiences. It felt like seeing an escort and each time I vowed to not meet someone again who didn't make me chase them a little first.
Maybe another way to say it--I don't care if she's fucking *me* for my money. But I'm less interested in girls who will fuck whomever opens the hotel room door for money.[/QUOTE]I agree with Theargent. Of course there are a large number of SB's fucking us just for money but there is a wide variety of girls on the site. I've found that a decent number (no idea what the % is) want some level of emotional connection. In other words, they aren't the type that want to fuck a different guy every few days or week. They prefer something more consistent and they want to like you / like spending time with you. Sure, many on SA are the semi-pro / pro types, I tend to look for the others-just my preference as it is more a "real" type of interaction. Many guys prefer the transactional types, and that is totally fine. There are valid reasons to go after those girls. But they are more the fucking for money types IMHO. I've had SB's ask me to stop providing allowance and just help them out on occasion as well; I've had arrangements that ended after a couple of months (my choice) and the SB come back weeks / months later and suggest we continue with no allowance or meet up on occasion because she missed the great sex (more of a booty call type of thing). One former SB contacted me 3 months after I ended it and just wanted me to take her to a nice dinner every month and spend the night at her place with no allowance. I'm not tooting my own horn here, my point is that, in my experience, there are a decent number of women on the site who aren't getting the type of male attention (sexual, emotional, experienced) from dudes their age in real life. Or they haven't been with an experienced guy who knows what he's doing. Yes, most want / need the money or some assistance (especially initially) but that sometimes becomes less important over time if you play things right. Whatever it is, I really don't care but I'm there to help where I can.