Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=DarkSoulo;3069054]Hey guys pretty new to this.

Went out for a stroll Thurs for the first time unforantely on foot. I'm assuming it's easier to get in the mix if you were driving. Anyway it was pretty late seemed like most of were sleep or way too zombied. Any advice? And is there a rules for SW.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the threads! Glad you could join us and thanks for the post! Hope it is the first of many.

Also kudos for asking questions and asking about rules and resources! It is smart to get an education from those that have gone before as the street is always willing to "teach" and those lessons can be harsh.

There ARE rules for SW's and any other kind of mongering one wishes to do. If you look on the front / main page of this site, look in the left hand column for a link to the "22 Rules for Street Walkers" That is kind of a mis-statemet as there are three posts in that link: the first AND the THIRD post have valuable "rules" for street pick ups. I think many miss the third post, which is a shame as good advice there too!

Also the point of posting here for most is to leave a record for others to find and use to get educated. Otherwise the threads are nothing more than testosterone: "Oh, look at what I banged!" So the history here is important and valuable. So I suggest going back on this SW thread and reading the last 6 months of posts. Yeah, sure, it will take some time and might take several sessions. But you want safety or you want easy?

My Advice? At the very minimum read those Rules until you have them internalized. When Sh*T goes down on the street, one doesn't have time to think back, now what was rule 13. So read them AT LEAST 3-times, maybe 3 times over three days. Second, recon, Recon, RECON! When I started I did recon for 3-months before making my fist scoop. One needs to know not only where the girls are likely to be found, who is likely out and when BUT where does LE hang out? When? Where do they hide? Where are they RIGHT NOW when you are going to make your scoop? What does a decoy look like? Where are places one can turn to make a scoop? What are the escape routes? Where might one take the girl for a date? And much more.

The point is that this is a very risky game. How you choose to manage risk is up to you. I prefer to manage risk through knowledge rather than avoid it through ignorance (lack of education).

Another point which you have a good start on. WHEN IN DOUBT: ASK QUESTIONS! When I started I asked a bunch of rookie questions. But because it was clear I had read the forums and wasn't asking a question that had been answered 4 posts prior, I found many helped! So read and ASK! Lots of experienced gents here willing to help those who give back and aren't just one-ways.

So Good luck! Happy Hunting!

CL
[I]Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy![/I]

I saw this white chick with a big booty. Short hair. Very stylish hair style. Like combed to one side. Probably early 30's. Had few tattoos. On her neck as well. Was around tioga. Went in and out around this shady looking house on k and Atlantic. She then went on Ontario and literally like vanished LOL couldn't find her.

If anyone got any info or something let me know guys.

[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3069891]...Another point which you have a good start on. WHEN IN DOUBT: ASK QUESTIONS! When I started I asked a bunch of rookie questions. But because it was clear I had read the forums and wasn't asking a question that had been answered 4 posts prior, I found many helped! So read and ASK! Lots of experienced gents here willing to help those who give back and aren't just one-ways. So Good luck! Happy Hunting![/QUOTE]Thanks. I'd like to ask a follow-up question about something the Original Poster stated. He said that he was / is on foot.

My question is, what [I]are[/I] you supposed say to the SW when you are on foot? When in a car, you could ask "Do you want a ride?" and be safe, because you are asking a perfectly legitimate, legal question: if someone wants a ride, or not.

But if you are on foot, you can't ask "Do you want a ride?" So what would you ask / say, to initiate contact, in the on-foot situation?

[QUOTE=HeJova;3072047]Thanks. I'd like to ask a follow-up question about something the Original Poster stated. He said that he was / is on foot.

My question is, what [I]are[/I] you supposed say to the SW when you are on foot? When in a car, you could ask "Do you want a ride?" and be safe, because you are asking a perfectly legitimate, legal question: if someone wants a ride, or not.

But if you are on foot, you can't ask "Do you want a ride?" So what would you ask / say, to initiate contact, in the on-foot situation?[/QUOTE]Ask her if she would like to give you a piggyback ride.

DarkSoulo. I would try to be more informative than critical. Let's be realistic with your plight. You are on foot, you see a girl you would like to approach. You are not sure how to handle the situation to accomplish your goals.

The stroll is no place for a novice to be alone for any reason. Anything can and will happen. Especially to someone that has no idea how to handle a simple encounter let alone a hostile one. Rest assured my friend, people you don't even see out there are sizing you up for some type encounter. Just to set you up. One may ask for a cigarette, a light, change, directions or any of a dozen other things to put themselves in your space. What seems innocent to most can be a well thought out plan to separate an unsuspecting transients from their cash or any valuable they may possess. Walking in a high crime area with no other motive than to get a BJ is not a well thought out plan at all. This goes for the seasoned monger as well as the novice. Do you think before you attempted this venture you should have figured out your game plan? Maybe what to say or how to handle rejection if you have made an error in judgement, as we all have. Always keep in the front of your mind this one thought. If you don't have or lose control of any situation, then you are in danger. If you don't remember anything else I tell you, remember that. It is up to you to take care of you out there. Going to LEO for any bad encounter out there is not an option. The locals know that and use it to their advantage. First thing LEO will ask is what you are doing there. Which you don't legally have to answer. They will still ask. Again please don't take this as criticism. Not meant to be that. More informative than critical.

Now lets get past the many dangers one may face when on. Foot. If you are still intent on being on foot then you need a plan that will work.

You can always approach a girl with the same methods the locals use to approach you and share your space. That is ask for a light, offer a smoke which most will accept with great pleasure etc. Can always ask if she would like to get a soda and a burger as most girls are also hungry. Ask if she would like to hang out. Just a simple hello can also put you within their space. Everything I mention here is perfectly legal and acceptable public behavior. Once you have their attention they will get into your space. They will want to see what else you have to say. Watch body language. See if they smile. Do they move toward or away from you. Are they social or anti social. The main thing is never ever approach them as if they are a working girl. If you are wrong it could get you in a lot of trouble. Never offer money for anything but to buy them food or drink. If they are working they will come right out and tell you most of the time. They will more than likely say they are trying to make money. Build your own confidence. A confident monger is a secure monger. With out confidence you will never get what you are after out there. You can PM me anytime and I will respond within a short period. There are a bunch of members here with a boatload of knowledge. Most will share if you contribute to the board also. Take your time. Get to know a few of the members. Many are great guys once you get to know them. Last and easiest is this. If you have a phone with video capabilities. Figure out your approach to a girl you may never have met. Record yourself using that approach. Then review the video and see if you find yourself believable or laughable. If not tweak it as necessary. Once you approve your own approach then you will be more confident and secure. I hope this helps you somewhat sir. Keep asking questions. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

?? Just curious, but what is your GOAL when you are looking for SW's on foot? I mean, do you plan to duck into a dark alley and get a quick BJ? Walk to one of the $10 spots and rent a room? Or are you parked somewhere close and just want to get a better look before you pick up? My advise is in line with Gator's warnings. If you are looking for option 1 or 2 I listed above, they are both too high risk (for me anyway). Option 3 - I do it all the time. I park around a corner somewhere when I want to get a closer look. When you are on foot, and approach a SW you can see alot of things you can't ifrom a car. How pretty is she? Is she out of it on meds? Can she stand up right? Does she smell like a dead fish? Is there a handler 20 feet away and you should avoid this one? Does she have an earpiece in and there is a van with tinted windows across the street? Anyway, point is you can see alot more and get a better feeling for the surroundings on foot. But you better have good situational awareness and an escape route. To answer the original question. If I am interested after getting a closer up view, I will usually just start off by making eye contact and saying "what's up" or even "lets go for a walk" ill usually tell them I am parked around the corner. Never had not even one not go with me with that simple approach.

[QUOTE=Mackeral1;3073785]?? Just curious, but what is your GOAL when you are looking for SW's on foot? I mean, do you plan to duck into a dark alley and get a quick BJ? Walk to one of the $10 spots and rent a room? Or are you parked somewhere close and just want to get a better look before you pick up? [/QUOTE]If you are on foot (that is to say: without car keys, without car) would it be unsafe to go to a $10 spot (since you're not going to be carrying any money with you beyond the very minimum, and nothing valuable such as car keys)? Also, couldn't you just walk (after making the pickup) all the way over to a nearby motel? What would be the pros and cons?

[QUOTE=HeJova;3075016]If you are on foot (that is to say: without car keys, without car) would it be unsafe to go to a $10 spot (since you're not going to be carrying any money with you beyond the very minimum, and nothing valuable such as car keys)? Also, couldn't you just walk (after making the pickup) all the way over to a nearby motel? What would be the pros and cons?[/QUOTE]Yesterday, Wednesday, I watched a guy strolling the stroll. He was walking around eating a bag of chips like he was at a carnival. That's his prerogative if that's his comfort zone doing that sort of thing. Yet he was not very seasoned in the mode he was working. He was very obvious in his own little world. It was plain to see he was not a local. He definitely was not waiting for a bus. He made it clear with body language what he was there for. He didn't seem to be trying to hide it at all.

Before he made any move toward anyone he really should have scouted the area out to see what drawbacks there might be. He approached one girl and she blew him off like an annoying mosquito. He threw his hands in the air and crossed the street and hung on the corner like he was a resident. Little did he know the place was crawling with undercover LEO.

LEO had been clearing the area all night every time someone stopped to pick their nose. They was looking to take prisoners to show the boss. . They was watching him like a cat watches a mouse. Just waiting for him to screw up. They would have pounced on him and showed no mercy. They was laughing at him when the one girl shooed him away. So their motive was also clear.

One can take all the precautions mentioned above. That being no keys, minimal amount of cash, no valuables etc. You really need to remember you are the only person that knows you are prepared for trouble in your own comfortable way. Can't walk down the street wearing a sign stating that.

Somebody that is sizing you up for a hit thinks you are a great target. Because that is the world they live in, in that area. They believe everybody but them has money. They think they are going to hit you over the head and be set for the rest of the day with drugs. They talk about what they are going to do with the haul before they even whack you. They convince each other you are loaded. Really. When you fall they will go through your pockets only to find $5. 00 they very well could be pissed and do more damage to you. You always need to look at a situation as what's the worse that can happen here. Am I safe. How many guys just hanging around outside and inside. How many was staring as I entered. How many people there all together that you can see. If I have to run am I able or do I take what they dish out to me. What way am I going to go if I need to exit quickly. What is the weakest point to exit. These seem like trivial thoughts until you need to put them to use. If you don't take care of you nobody there will. Hell they watch people die in that area and film it while laughing. So what are your chances out of your comfort zone?

You determine what you want to risk. When someone wants to do you harm they set the risk level much higher and you may be unaware.

One could visit five safe $10.00 spots. The one that is not safe will look just like a safe one and leave you with memories you won't believe.

I'm sure there are mongers here that have been set up in the street one way or another. Anybody wish to chime in here feel free. I know the experiences are on this board.

I personally know mongers on this forum that hoof the stroll all the time. There is another that rides a bike. They have found a space they feel comfortable with. We chat and share stories. I just believe everyone with any time here has probably had an encounter they wish they hadn't. Or another that shook them to the bone. There is nobody on that street of broken dreams that I would trust. Nobody. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Gator145;3075071]There is nobody on that street of broken dreams that I would trust. Nobody. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]Gator, your posts are some excellent stuff! Truth from an experienced monger that should be heeded as Gospel! You put my advice to shame. Thanks for sharing your considerable experience & knowledge!

By Nobody? Nobody? LOL!

[QUOTE=HeJova;3072047]Thanks. I'd like to ask a follow-up question about something the Original Poster stated. He said that he was / is on foot.

My question is, what [I]are[/I] you supposed say to the SW when you are on foot? When in a car, you could ask "Do you want a ride?" and be safe, because you are asking a perfectly legitimate, legal question: if someone wants a ride, or not.

But if you are on foot, you can't ask "Do you want a ride?" So what would you ask / say, to initiate contact, in the on-foot situation?[/QUOTE]I normally make small talk it's a little different here than over the bridge where it looked like we are all waiting for the bus and we just hopped on. I recently moved here. Mainly on the stroll to investigate (I love kinda close) and ask questions as I really don't know how it goes out here not to mention I was flying blind on the streets of Camden I thank you for everyone's advice and concern.

Took a cruise on the K yesterday and again today and there is plenty of talent out walking. From Front street to Lehigh there wasn't much. One here and there. More hanging out a block to the east on Jasper. From Lehigh to Allegheny I saw probably 5 girls. Then from Allegheny to Frankford there were a dozen or more. WSW, HSW, BSW, you name it. All ages and sizes. I did see a couple I would have spent some time with, but they REFUSED to follow my lead down a side street for the pickup. One of my cardinal rules is I will never stop and pick a girl up right on K Avenue. Most girls get it. What about you guys? Do you scoop a girl right off Kensington? It doesn't feel safe to me. Like to know your opinions.

[QUOTE=Cowboy5343;3085279]T One of my cardinal rules is I will never stop and pick a girl up right on K Avenue. Most girls get it. What about you guys? Do you scoop a girl right off Kensington? It doesn't feel safe to me. Like to know your opinions.[/QUOTE]I think you have it right! Rule #7.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=MongeringRules[/URL]

This morning around 3:30 am was driving around the stroll and saw a HSW Maria blonde hair chunky (how I like them) average rack ok butt for an older woman 47 yr drove by and she was walking toward pacific street so I went around the block and went down pacific she walked up the block as she saw my car she hops in wasn't sure if I was a cop but we actually hooked up for a covered BJ before a few months ago so I wanted FS she wanted $40 but offered $35 so we park on the block diagonally across from the school I believe it's Frankford but it's near a body shop anyway I park and we walk down a driveway to the end which is an ok spot but really need to find a better area to do it outside. BJ was good and did doggy, she was a little scarry asking am I done a couple times I finish but at a better darker spot would've made us both more comfortable. I drop her off on Glenwood asked if she had a phone of course no but says she's lives around the 7 11 I'd hook up with her again but will have to scout out a good area for outdoor fun.

[QUOTE=Gator145;3075071]Yesterday, Wednesday, I watched a guy strolling the stroll. He was walking around eating a bag of chips like he was at a carnival. That's his prerogative if that's his comfort zone doing that sort of thing. Yet he was not very seasoned in the mode he was working. He was very obvious in his own little world. It was plain to see he was not a local. He definitely was not waiting for a bus. He made it clear with body language what he was there for. He didn't seem to be trying to hide it at all.

Before he made any move toward anyone he really should have scouted the area out to see what drawbacks there might be. He approached one girl and she blew him off like an annoying mosquito. He threw his hands in the air and crossed the street and hung on the corner like he was a resident. Little did he know the place was crawling with undercover LEO.

LEO had been clearing the area all night every time someone stopped to pick their nose. They was looking to take prisoners to show the boss. . They was watching him like a cat watches a mouse. Just waiting for him to screw up. They would have pounced on him and showed no mercy. They was laughing at him when the one girl shooed him away. So their motive was also clear.

One can take all the precautions mentioned above. That being no keys, minimal amount of cash, no valuables etc. You really need to remember you are the only person that knows you are prepared for trouble in your own comfortable way. Can't walk down the street wearing a sign stating that.

Somebody that is sizing you up for a hit thinks you are a great target. Because that is the world they live in, in that area. They believe everybody but them has money. They think they are going to hit you over the head and be set for the rest of the day with drugs. They talk about what they are going to do with the haul before they even whack you. They convince each other you are loaded. Really. When you fall they will go through your pockets only to find $5. 00 they very well could be pissed and do more damage to you. You always need to look at a situation as what's the worse that can happen here. Am I safe. How many guys just hanging around outside and inside. How many was staring as I entered. How many people there all together that you can see. If I have to run am I able or do I take what they dish out to me. What way am I going to go if I need to exit quickly. What is the weakest point to exit. These seem like trivial thoughts until you need to put them to use. If you don't take care of you nobody there will. Hell they watch people die in that area and film it while laughing. So what are your chances out of your comfort zone?

You determine what you want to risk. When someone wants to do you harm they set the risk level much higher and you may be unaware.

One could visit five safe $10.00 spots. The one that is not safe will look just like a safe one and leave you with memories you won't believe.

I'm sure there are mongers here that have been set up in the street one way or another. Anybody wish to chime in here feel free. I know the experiences are on this board.

I personally know mongers on this forum that hoof the stroll all the time. There is another that rides a bike. They have found a space they feel comfortable with. We chat and share stories. I just believe everyone with any time here has probably had an encounter they wish they hadn't. Or another that shook them to the bone. There is nobody on that street of broken dreams that I would trust. Nobody. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]I agree with ALL of this. This is why I'm not a SW guy. But I LOVE to fuck them bareback! If any of you guys would be willing to pass some info to me about any of these street girls that will do outcall or else have a place to host (NO car shit! I'd be MUCH obliged! Obliged enough to give you about a half dozen backpage girls who will fuck bareback, in the greater Philly / south Jersey area. PM me with digits, price, and menu I'd you want to trade!

Just had a very weird experience on the ave.

Ok so cruising down Kensington ave. I see this smoking hot girl near the 7 eleven store.

She is looking around for someone to pick her up. Problem is some guy she's with Is also walking with her. Guy was wearing a red hoodie. White male. So I'm like fuck it let me try get her. I park on the ave. She walks to my car opens the door and smiles at me says and says what you want. She's asking me this question while standing outside my car with door open. I simply just reply Do you need a ride? She says no I'm good then closes my door. After that happens another car parks in front of me. She walks up to that car and again same thing with that guy. This time she gets in his car and the other stranger guy friend in red hoodie runs to the back of the car opens the back door and jumps in the back. I drove off. I dunno if the guy got robbed or they were all undercover. Who knows. I got the he'll out of there.