Streetwalker Reports

That's actually a question which I asked. I was told that having the recording definitely can't hurt, however it's admissibility to the court can get complicated. It depends on a few factors and each case is different. That opens it's own can of worms which went beyond the scope of our short time. The take-away I got from that is that you can't be smug and assume that just because you have that kind of evidence that it can be used and will save you.

[QUOTE=Jinurso;6506256]This makes me wonder if it is a good idea to have a recording device active when you're soliciting. So if you do get nabbed before you say anything incriminating, you have evidence on your side.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hoballer;6506342]That's actually a question which I asked. I was told that having the recording definitely can't hurt, however it's admissibility to the court can get complicated. It depends on a few factors and each case is different. That opens it's own can of worms which went beyond the scope of our short time. The take-away I got from that is that you can't be smug and assume that just because you have that kind of evidence that it can be used and will save you.[/QUOTE]Its not uncommon for cars now to have a camera installed in the vehicle to do things like record accidents or carjackings or police stops. People submit them to police departments and insurance companies all the time. It's been used in the past to prove inappropriate behavior by police and courts have affirmed people's right to record police interactions. I wonder what kind of legitimate challenge to admissibility they can mount if it clearly proves they are lying about the nature of the interaction.

Well so that's the thing, no lawyer anywhere is going to say that having that kind of evidence will save you 100%, slam dunk, case closed. They just aren't going to commit to something like that. It can work in one case and not work in another. It depends upon as many as a lot or as little as a few factors. What those are, I personally don't know. This is the part were discussing this part ad nauseam on a forum when none of us are legal experts will do us any good. You'd have to ask a lawyer, and again that will probably depend upon the situation in which the case occurred. He did say that he's had several cases (not patronizing cases, but DUIs and others) in which they had police blatantly lying on tape and the prosecutor nor the courts would hear it. Once you cross the line and into legal trouble, you leave it to the technicalities of the system to determine what happens to you. You can have all of the evidence in the world, but if you're on the hook for messing with hookers and you don't want your name out there, challenging it will lengthen the time of the case and probably the cost, not to mention the exposure. Appeals could be in order, if it gets to that level, and that's where it gets really expensive. Meanwhile prosecutor comes back with, "do these things and I'll drop the case". Most are just going to do that, even if what happened to them is wrong. Perhaps that isn't you, but it is still a reality for most.

I think that there is a lot which is wrong right now about what's going on in Seattle and the city isn't really looking into the causes nor the effects. They insist that the girls are all victims to the media and the community, but again whenever I do manage to ask random SWs out there if the city has stopped and asked if they need help they all say "no". So really they aren't very interested in helping anyone. Further, they're insisting that by busting johns that the demand will decrease. I'm not seeing a decrease in my counts of SWs going down and we're halfway through the year. Not a scientific study and it's definitely anecdotal on my part, but still - I've been keeping track. It's all lip service to say, "we're doing something and we're patting ourselves on our backs". Something is going to come to a head, not sure what that will be, but it's gonna pop at some point.

That's all I have left to say about this.

[QUOTE=Jinurso;6506391]Its not uncommon for cars now to have a camera installed in the vehicle to do things like record accidents or carjackings or police stops. People submit them to police departments and insurance companies all the time. It's been used in the past to prove inappropriate behavior by police and courts have affirmed people's right to record police interactions. I wonder what kind of legitimate challenge to admissibility they can mount if it clearly proves they are lying about the nature of the interaction.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hoballer;6506574]Well so that's the thing, no lawyer anywhere is going to say that having that kind of evidence will save you 100%, slam dunk, case closed. They just aren't going to commit to something like that. It can work in one case and not work in another. It depends upon as many as a lot or as little as a few factors. What those are, I personally don't know. This is the part were discussing this part ad nauseam on a forum when none of us are legal experts will do us any good. You'd have to ask a lawyer, and again that will probably depend upon the situation in which the case occurred. He did say that he's had several cases (not patronizing cases, but DUIs and others) in which they had police blatantly lying on tape and the prosecutor nor the courts would hear it. Once you cross the line and into legal trouble, you leave it to the technicalities of the system to determine what happens to you. You can have all of the evidence in the world, but if you're on the hook for messing with hookers and you don't want your name out there, challenging it will lengthen the time of the case and probably the cost, not to mention the exposure. Appeals could be in order, if it gets to that level, and that's where it gets really expensive. Meanwhile prosecutor comes back with, "do these things and I'll drop the case". Most are just going to do that, even if what happened to them is wrong. Perhaps that isn't you, but it is still a reality for most.

I think that there is a lot which is wrong right now about what's going on in Seattle and the city isn't really looking into the effects. It's all lip service to say, "we're doing something and we're patting ourselves on our backs".[/QUOTE]Every attorney I ever had has said, "you don't want to take anything to trial, because at that point anything can happen. ".

I 100% believe that. My ex tried to get custody of the kids. I thought it was a simple thing. She had not contacted them in 4 years. She just finished rehab. She was living at the YWCA. I had a high paying job, squeaky clean background, had a large home and the kids were happy. We went for a summary judgement (basically the judge looks at the evidence and makes a ruling without a drawn out trial). The judge congratulated her on completing rehab and scolded me for compiling 30 pages of negative information on her then assigned a social worker to speak to me and her and the kids and determine who the better parent was. So, the attorneys are right, you never know what will happen in court.

Anyone know who the Latina in red was yesterday around 120th st.

[QUOTE=Raven1855;6502230]Time is 8 pm Wednesday, 5 cruisers pulled up on a guy in Jack and box parking lot and arrested him. When I drove by a bit earlier he was talking with someone through the window.

Don't be stupid.[/QUOTE]Follow up news article:

[URL]https://komonews.com/news/local/aurora-avenue-seattle-human-sex-trafficking-prostitution-undercover-police-officer-arrest-operation-seven-pimp-hooker-crime-crisis-violence-john-exchange-money-acts-sexual-north-bitter-lake-shoreline-washington-king-county[/URL]

Guys please. Don't be fools out there. We will see more of these stings this summer I imagine.

Stay out of the Lowe's parking lot, don't go near Jack in the Box nor Krispy Kreme. Just stay out of the lot altogether. I know they look good standing their in their thongs, but ALL of the stings this year have occurred in that lot. Just don't go in there. I'm going to say it again, stay the [I]fuck[/I] out of that lot. I go through Aurora during evening commute time almost every weeknight and notice that there is a lot of hooker foot traffic between 5-8 pm which is generally when SPD conducts these stings. If you see a lot of hookers out near the motels, near Les Schwab and north of 127th but ONLY ONE hooker on the sidewalk or in the parking lot of Krispy Kreme / Jack in the Box / Lowe's during this time, then that's your cue to most definitely stay out of the fucking lot. SWs have told me that SPD tells them that they have to stay away from that lot when they're doing stings, so again if you see a lot of hookers out there but none of them are near Lowe's, then just go home. I'm going to be a broken record here, but I recently consulted an attorney to get more information about what to do if caught in an SPD sting, and he told me that SPD DOES NOT record their stings. He said that people have been arrested for merely talking to an undercover because there is no recorded evidence and they can use what he called "forceful tactics". So if any of you fuckers thinks that you can go into the Lowe's lot and even just allow yourself to be approached by a decoy even without agreeing to anything, that interaction could still land you in trouble. It's on YOU to prove that you did not agree to any offer once you get taken and apparently that's pretty tough to do without recorded evidence. So just stay the fuck out of there and if you do go in don't talk to anybody who approaches. It's just how it has to be.

I would probably do the same thing in the Oaktree lot near IHOP, at some point they'll probably do stings in there. Just don't talk to any lone SW in a big parking lot.

[QUOTE=Raven1855;6508967]Follow up news article:

[URL]https://komonews.com/news/local/aurora-avenue-seattle-human-sex-trafficking-prostitution-undercover-police-officer-arrest-operation-seven-pimp-hooker-crime-crisis-violence-john-exchange-money-acts-sexual-north-bitter-lake-shoreline-washington-king-county[/URL]

Guys please. Don't be fools out there. We will see more of these stings this summer I imagine.[/QUOTE]

I drive by Victoria at about 7 am by Roses.

Daddy has her working hard.

[QUOTE=TexasToast31;6507642]Anyone know who the Latina in red was yesterday around 120th st.[/QUOTE]Huge tits, great ass, face tat?

I saw Victoria last night. BBBJCIM with spit for 140.

WSW about 25.5'3 125 ish.

Cardates. She wanted 200. I said no. Countered with 140.

Gagging with sloppy drool.

CBJ is 100.

[QUOTE=GolphPro;6510927]I saw Victoria last night. BBBJCIM with spit for 140.

WSW about 25.5'3 125 ish.

Cardates. She wanted 200. I said no. Countered with 140.

Gagging with sloppy drool.

CBJ is 100.[/QUOTE]This Victoria?

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/bellevue/female-escorts/caucasian_w/vip-special-150text-for-more-i/036140501618[/URL]

Went through Thursday around 8:30 pm and saw SPD arresting a fat hooker in red lingerie in front of the Emerald motel. She looked young 20's, long dark hair, probably Latina (but who knows). I haven't seen SPD arrest an SW for four of five years now. I'm guessing she got into a fight with another girl or threatened the motel manager or something. One of my regular girls tells me about all of the arguments and fights between the hookers out there, recently business owners have been complaining to the North Precinct that hookers are getting into fist-fights with each other in front of their businesses. These skanky ghetto ho's don't know how to act. Hell, who really knows. The funny part was that all of the other SWs out in front of the motel stood right next to the officers while they were cuffing the fat girl and continued to wave at passing men. Yes they really do think we're [I]that[/I] dumb to stop and talk services in front of cops. I'm getting jaded.

Farther down Aurora at 109th, I saw three SPD stopped on the corner with the officers looking as though they were investigating something. I didn't see if they had anyone in custody, but just prior to that I saw two girls working the corner and suddenly they were gone. Wonder what's up.

Other than that, I counted about 30 SWs out there. One spinner Latina with dark curly, shoulder-length hair in a very short plaid miniskirt caught my eye, but when I rolled by she had braces and her overall look seemed very very young to me. Decided to pass on approaching her. Just not going to court that potential trouble.

[QUOTE=FromTheJump2;6511443]This Victoria?

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/bellevue/female-escorts/caucasian_w/vip-special-150text-for-more-i/036140501618[/URL][/QUOTE]Nope that's not her. Stop trying to leach.

[QUOTE=ProJohn1;6511815]Nope that's not her. Stop trying to leach.[/QUOTE]My bad, wasn't trying to leach or take anyone's shit, just was seeing if they were the same person.

[QUOTE=FromTheJump2;6513058]My bad, wasn't trying to leach or take anyone's shit, just was seeing if they were the same person.[/QUOTE]I don't get it, what's trying to leach on a hooker forum, they are open to services for money to everyone. Its not like you are trying to hook with a someone's wife.