Massage Therapists

I think you are referring to Bebe and Lilly's place (not sure what the name of their new place is). They always give great service. Glad you had such a nice time as they are both sweet women. However, I think you overpaid a bit. They are both always satisfied with a total tip of $140. $160. Tipping $210 is entirely your perogative, but by overtipping such a large amount, you may be hurting the service quality of the other regular mongers that go to see them. It's only human nature that over time, if they keep getting $200 then they are going to be upset when they don't get that much. So please help out your poorer brothers like me I regularly see these women at $140. 160 a few times a month, but if the price went up to $200. 220, I would have to severely cut back.

As I said, they are very sweet and deserving of lots of our business, but it's much better to keep the average price at the $140 to $160 level and see them more often, then to just drop crazy AMP money on them. For goodness sakes, we don't need other guys actually inflating prices in this crappy economy. Higher prices means that they will likely have less overall business.

Remember, prices in Hawaii are acutally very high when compared to the larger markets like Los Angeles where $150 AMP fees (with really good looking K girls) are the norm and $200 is unheard of. I know Hawaii is much different from LA, but it would be nice to get prices down to the LA level.

[QUOTE=Kukui Street; 1092382]Saw Bebe at Ideal in the CC this week. I think she mans the phone but I insisted on seeing her this time. She did not negotiate up front which is always a good sign. Started off with an awesome sensual massage. She worked in some long smooth strokes and teasing junior for about 20 minutes. Flipped over she played with junior stroking for about 5 minutes with KY (I alwys bring it with me because they usually only have baby oil and that shit can be nasty) and just before I couldn't take it any more before blowin" I opted for FS. Ater eating the Y for 15 minutes and she appeared to be responding and not facking it, multiple positions, I stuffed two pillows under her backside had her a foot high form the table and had her cross her legs and f'd her deep and hard from on top, she took the deep part well. I swear the deeper I penetrated her, her pusssy contracted and tightened and she was dripping wet.

Her body is still in nice shape and she was positive and enthusiastic throughout the session. Remember her from Cece's place a few years ago but never had a session like this last one. House 6 and 150. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kukui Street;1092174]The new girl from Shanghai, can you describe her a little more? What's her approx. Weight and body type? Skinny? Average? Pudgy? Are those Bees real? I saw Judy as well last week and would not repeat.[/QUOTE]She is skinny / average. Nice breasts. Very nice personality for a provider. Sara is much younger and has a much nicer body. I would put her weight at about 100-105 and 5'3: in height.

Jude was okay. Not anything outstanding. Just typical.

Visited Morningstar and met with KeKe. Not a bad looking Chinese woman and pretty tall around 5'7 or 5'8. Nice! Not to mention very friendly too. When I entered her establishment it was dark. She introduced me to Judy or Julie? I told her no thanks I'd rather have you instead and she obliged. Showered first and whoa better keep the pressure low because the damn drain was small kine plugged.

Ok went to her room with just the towel on and when I laid down she took it right off. Started the massage right away and to my surprise it was pretty good. Once she was almost done with most of my backside she lightly grazed the boys a few times. Flipped over and she continued her massage. Asked if I wanted 'squishy squishy' or 'boom boom' I told her 'squishy squishy'. It was nearly 45 minutes into the session so 'boom boom' was out of the question. Plus I neva bring enough $$$.

$ total and very satisfied. Will definitely repeat. L / 7 A / 10 S / 9

Kuikui, You're right bebe is no fake, when I use to pound her with the big hammer the hold building knows I'm there.

You think down at her Y is great, try working the tities.

Lily is nice and sweet too, can't say to much about her, because my buddy rich in love with her, but she's in love with ME! LOL.

Bunch of us going check out the new girl tomorrow, the big duce, rich man, skin52, Tai Pan Man.

Keke you too might be just the one you looking for.

The place is nice, clean, bright and friendly, make me feel WELCOME all the time.

Lily once said to me bra the L my place is your place, now go wash the towels for your free lunch and coffee.

Also they never negotiate or ask for it up front, (don't short change them) and you get the full time, and on time appointments, and no switching.

Well! Lily / Bebe good Luck to you.

The L man.

[QUOTE=Kukui Street; 1092382]Saw Bebe at Ideal in the CC this week. I think she mans the phone but I insisted on seeing her this time. She did not negotiate up front which is always a good sign. Started off with an awesome sensual massage. She worked in some long smooth strokes and teasing junior for about 20 minutes. Flipped over she played with junior stroking for about 5 minutes with KY (I alwys bring it with me because they usually only have baby oil and that shit can be nasty) and just before I couldn't take it any more before blowin" I opted for FS. Ater eating the Y for 15 minutes and she appeared to be responding and not facking it, multiple positions, I stuffed two pillows under her backside had her a foot high form the table and had her cross her legs and f'd her deep and hard from on top, she took the deep part well. I swear the deeper I penetrated her, her pusssy contracted and tightened and she was dripping wet.

Her body is still in nice shape and she was positive and enthusiastic throughout the session. Remember her from Cece's place a few years ago but never had a session like this last one. House 6 and 150. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hentai Man; 1092782]I think you are referring to Bebe and Lilly's place (not sure what the name of their new place is). They always give great service. Glad you had such a nice time as they are both sweet women. However, I think you overpaid a bit. They are both always satisfied with a total tip of $140. $160. Tipping $210 is entirely your perogative, but by overtipping such a large amount, you may be hurting the service quality of the other regular mongers that go to see them. It's only human nature that over time, if they keep getting $200 then they are going to be upset when they don't get that much. So please help out your poorer brothers like me I regularly see these women at $140. 160 a few times a month, but if the price went up to $200. 220, I would have to severely cut back.

As I said, they are very sweet and deserving of lots of our business, but it's much better to keep the average price at the $140 to $160 level and see them more often, then to just drop crazy AMP money on them. For goodness sakes, we don't need other guys actually inflating prices in this crappy economy. Higher prices means that they will likely have less overall business.

Remember, prices in Hawaii are acutally very high when compared to the larger markets like Los Angeles where $150 AMP fees (with really good looking K girls) are the norm and $200 is unheard of. I know Hawaii is much different from LA, but it would be nice to get prices down to the LA level. [/QUOTE]He paid a 150 tip, not 210. HF (50) plus tip (150) was 210. 150 tip is standard for FS.

[QUOTE=Aboonai;1092854] . Asked if I wanted 'squishy squishy' or 'boom boom' I told her 'squishy squishy'. [/QUOTE]Squishy-squishy?

LOL.

I really like that expression. It sounds so much better than the phrase "hand job"."Hand Job" sounds so cold and impersonal.

[QUOTE=Hentai Man; 1092782]I think you are referring to Bebe and Lilly's place (not sure what the name of their new place is). They always give great service. Glad you had such a nice time as they are both sweet women. However, I think you overpaid a bit. They are both always satisfied with a total tip of $140. $160. Tipping $210 is entirely your perogative, but by overtipping such a large amount, you may be hurting the service quality of the other regular mongers that go to see them. It's only human nature that over time, if they keep getting $200 then they are going to be upset when they don't get that much. So please help out your poorer brothers like me I regularly see these women at $140. 160 a few times a month, but if the price went up to $200. 220, I would have to severely cut back.

As I said, they are very sweet and deserving of lots of our business, but it's much better to keep the average price at the $140 to $160 level and see them more often, then to just drop crazy AMP money on them. For goodness sakes, we don't need other guys actually inflating prices in this crappy economy. Higher prices means that they will likely have less overall business.

Remember, prices in Hawaii are acutally very high when compared to the larger markets like Los Angeles where $150 AMP fees (with really good looking K girls) are the norm and $200 is unheard of. I know Hawaii is much different from LA, but it would be nice to get prices down to the LA level. [/QUOTE]Hey Hentai, Good comments. This cost for room and service is always problematic. I am in agreement with most of your comments. It reminds me of my own day to day shit I have put up with business and my competitors. We should start a new Thread on this topic.

I think this new value pricing with the 1/2 hor $25 and $80 service sucks. Basically I do go to relax, be myself, and spend some time albiet an one hour session is pushing it, but I'll save my comments on that for another time. Half hour for FS, the whole idea of rushing just sucks! Shit, sometimes I need time just adjusting to the bloody condom.

$50 seems fair for the hour, especially from the smaller, private CC AMPs. But now these higher profile AMPs are always trying get $60 every once in a while, remeber before this econmy took a dump there was an attempt by many of the them to charge $60 / hr. THere is still that nasty cross dressing CC wench that wants $68 / hr, what the fuck's with that? So on that note, so if I'm not mistaken the girls typically want a minimum of $120 when they negotiate up front even though they always start higher. So anything above that can vary depending on the quality of the service. That's why I never negotiate up front! So when one of these beauties knows that everything is dependent on the tip and the next hour, I find it usually proves to be a better situation for me (us).

So having said that, the tip in my mind varies between $120 and $160 depending on the engagement. I have a soft spot! When I have the total GFE, even BB occasionally, kissing on the lips and even French kissing, I guess I feel obligated to tip for superior service. And upon subsequent visits, I receive stellar and above average service.

I started my mongering in LA 25 years ago, then SF for 8 years and know Hawaii some 15 years ago. Part of my problem as you have observed is I now basically can afford it. Having said that, I really miss LA. The variety is much better and from experience, when I go on business to LA, I can call up some services and order exactly what I want and get a beautiful Chinese beauty, for as little for $160 / hr and they come to my hotel, outcall! I think that's a great rate. I don't have to leave my room. The Chinese have saturated the market. You can request a 55 yr. Old, and I have, or a 30yr old. 100lb sex machine with 34B's. Makes ne want to move back.

Anyhow bro, I'll keep it mind and agree, we all need to stick together because we are the customer and we should demand or at the least dictate what the demand is.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Kamabokos; 1092802]She is skinny / average. Nice breasts. Very nice personality for a provider. Sara is much younger and has a much nicer body. I would put her weight at about 100-105 and 5'3: in height.

Jude was okay. Not anything outstanding. Just typical. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I amalways on the hunt for the skinny, not more than 105, 110 max body types and 4'11 to 5'4. I put them in a different catagory than spinners. I like proprotional, thin legs and small ass and small tits are fine or even better.

[QUOTE=Lkjhgf; 1092901]Kuikui, You're right bebe is no fake, when I use to pound her with the big hammer the hold building knows I'm there.

You think down at her Y is great, try working the tities.

Lily is nice and sweet too, can't say to much about her, because my buddy rich in love with her, but she's in love with ME! LOL.

Bunch of us going check out the new girl tomorrow, the big duce, rich man, skin52, Tai Pan Man.

Keke you too might be just the one you looking for.

The place is nice, clean, bright and friendly, make me feel WELCOME all the time.

Lily once said to me bra the L my place is your place, now go wash the towels for your free lunch and coffee.

Also they never negotiate or ask for it up front, (don't short change them) and you get the full time, and on time appointments, and no switching.

Well! Lily / Bebe good Luck to you.

The L man. [/QUOTE]L Man,

Thanks for the info. Yeah, you are right about the titties. She started workin her own titties and it was a fuckin turn on! When a chick starts to play with her own titties and squeezin and workin them the way I would, I can't get enough of it. Some of these girls develope a sensitiviy and don't like even light squeezin. She was workin them.

Shit, I always ask for the girl to squeeze and "show me your nipples" and when they do, WOW!

I don't know the other girls by name, which one is skinny or or Bebe's size? I'll keep beating my drum, but I am crazy about skinny and small titties, after you guys see the new girl love to have a report.

Is Lily the one one with the jacked up teeth? I mean that in the nicest way. If she was with Annie at Dranon Fly, then I saw here on her first day, might have been the first customer as Annine called me from the airport. She was totally the GFE, BB, and sweet to the bone.

[QUOTE=Hentai Man; 1092782]I think you are referring to Bebe and Lilly's place (not sure what the name of their new place is). They always give great service. Glad you had such a nice time as they are both sweet women. However, I think you overpaid a bit. They are both always satisfied with a total tip of $140. $160. Tipping $210 is entirely your perogative, but by overtipping such a large amount, you may be hurting the service quality of the other regular mongers that go to see them. It's only human nature that over time, if they keep getting $200 then they are going to be upset when they don't get that much. So please help out your poorer brothers like me I regularly see these women at $140. 160 a few times a month, but if the price went up to $200. 220, I would have to severely cut back.

As I said, they are very sweet and deserving of lots of our business, but it's much better to keep the average price at the $140 to $160 level and see them more often, then to just drop crazy AMP money on them. For goodness sakes, we don't need other guys actually inflating prices in this crappy economy. Higher prices means that they will likely have less overall business.

Remember, prices in Hawaii are acutally very high when compared to the larger markets like Los Angeles where $150 AMP fees (with really good looking K girls) are the norm and $200 is unheard of. I know Hawaii is much different from LA, but it would be nice to get prices down to the LA level. [/QUOTE]Just to be clear: House fee plus $150.

[QUOTE=Blake123;1092913]He paid a 150 tip, not 210. HF (50) plus tip (150) was 210. 150 tip is standard for FS.[/QUOTE]I thought his total out the door expense was $210. When I wrote "tip" I just meant the total price since I always pay the girls in full at the end of the session, which includes house fee, though I do understand at regular AMPs and other places where you are not a regular that house fees are usually always collected upfront.

My point was that $200 ($50 house/$150 tip) is the normal fee for AMPs in Honolulu, but that MTs have most recently in the last few years been at the $80. $100 total level for HJ and $150-160 for FS. I'd just like to keep the MT prices at their current level and not have their fees increase to the $200 AMP level.

It seems that many recent reports posted here by newer members have them paying $200+ to the MTs. I don't know if they don't know any better or if that's just what the other MTs are trying to get away with right now (of course they'll always try to get the most cash they can from the newbies). I just felt moved to throw my two cents in to hopefully keep prices and expectations on both sides where they were at.

[QUOTE=Hentai Man; 1093193]I thought his total out the door expense was $210. When I wrote "tip" I just meant the total price since I always pay the girls in full at the end of the session, which includes house fee, though I do understand at regular AMPs and other places where you are not a regular that house fees are usually always collected upfront.

My point was that $200 ($50 house/$150 tip) is the normal fee for AMPs in Honolulu, but that MTs have most recently in the last few years been at the $80. $100 total level for HJ and $150-160 for FS. I'd just like to keep the MT prices at their current level and not have their fees increase to the $200 AMP level.

It seems that many recent reports posted here by newer members have them paying $200+ to the MTs. I don't know if they don't know any better or if that's just what the other MTs are trying to get away with right now (of course they'll always try to get the most cash they can from the newbies). I just felt moved to throw my two cents in to hopefully keep prices and expectations on both sides where they were at. [/QUOTE]Agreed, I have yet to ever pay Bebe, Lily, and all the former / current Apple girls more than 160 TOTAL. 60 to Cici and 100 to the girl. They are more than happy.

[QUOTE=Kukui Street; 1093186]L Man,

Thanks for the info. Yeah, you are right about the titties. She started workin her own titties and it was a fuckin turn on! When a chick starts to play with her own titties and squeezin and workin them the way I would, I can't get enough of it. Some of these girls develope a sensitiviy and don't like even light squeezin. She was workin them.

Shit, I always ask for the girl to squeeze and "show me your nipples" and when they do, WOW!

I don't know the other girls by name, which one is skinny or or Bebe's size? I'll keep beating my drum, but I am crazy about skinny and small titties, after you guys see the new girl love to have a report.

Is Lily the one one with the jacked up teeth? I mean that in the nicest way. If she was with Annie at Dranon Fly, then I saw here on her first day, might have been the first customer as Annine called me from the airport. She was totally the GFE, BB, and sweet to the bone. [/QUOTE]Kukui street, Are you from that area? Me too in the housing area.

IMMO for bebe your tipping is ok, when the A, S, is great you tip accordingly AMP or TM provider.

Had some AMP provider not worth $ total, but had some worth well over $$ for FS.

They is another MT girl in the building IMMO worth $$.20/$$.40 FS.

You're right Lily is sweet to the bone, and GFE, don' think she was with annie.

Lily's new girl looks good, pretty 8, A? (shy) S? Body 9, 5'5, 120, under 30.

Many of us looking for the skinny ones that you like, like gucci, monica, tiny, skye (mia) ,

Jolie, bobbie, kelly, small apple, etc.

For you guys that is economizing your funds, the best deal in town is the H / H for. 25 fee and. 80 tip.

KS, good hunting, stay safe.

The L Man

Seems like quality MTs are dwindling. Anyone with quality MTs not in CC? Michele, Jean, and the older gang are okay, but would like something new and I haven't see much listed online or PS.

[QUOTE=Hentai Man; 1093193]I thought his total out the door expense was $210. When I wrote "tip" I just meant the total price since I always pay the girls in full at the end of the session, which includes house fee, though I do understand at regular AMPs and other places where you are not a regular that house fees are usually always collected upfront.

My point was that $200 ($50 house/$150 tip) is the normal fee for AMPs in Honolulu, but that MTs have most recently in the last few years been at the $80. $100 total level for HJ and $150-160 for FS. I'd just like to keep the MT prices at their current level and not have their fees increase to the $200 AMP level.

It seems that many recent reports posted here by newer members have them paying $200+ to the MTs. I don't know if they don't know any better or if that's just what the other MTs are trying to get away with right now (of course they'll always try to get the most cash they can from the newbies). I just felt moved to throw my two cents in to hopefully keep prices and expectations on both sides where they were at. [/QUOTE]I've never been to any MT's that have offered HE downtown or at the CC, although I have been to a legit MT that I have posted about in the past. All my mongerings have been at AMP's. I usually would pm for more information on the MT's and their pricings but I'll go ahead and ask this question on the forum as I feel it will help other brothers and keep a consistency with the pricing for MT's. Is the $150-$160 FS pricing still accepted by MT's, even if some brothers have been paying $200 total? I don't want to go to an MT, that offers HE / FS, pay $160 total and get "screamed" at by the MT because she feels I've undertipped. So,"Is it $50 for the HF and $100-$110 for the MT?"

Is this the pricing guideline followed by all MT establishments? Just wondering, other than the MT establishments mentioned in yesterday and todays forum,"What other MT establishments are highly recommended and who are the good providers?"

K. C.

[QUOTE=Hotrod82;1093385]Agreed, I have yet to ever pay Bebe, Lily, and all the former / current Apple girls more than 160 TOTAL. 60 to Cici and 100 to the girl. They are more than happy.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming the $100 is FS? And this is at Apple Massage? K. C.

[QUOTE=Hentai Man; 1093193]I thought his total out the door expense was $210. When I wrote "tip" I just meant the total price since I always pay the girls in full at the end of the session, which includes house fee, though I do understand at regular AMPs and other places where you are not a regular that house fees are usually always collected upfront.

My point was that $200 ($50 house/$150 tip) is the normal fee for AMPs in Honolulu, but that MTs have most recently in the last few years been at the $80. $100 total level for HJ and $150-160 for FS. I'd just like to keep the MT prices at their current level and not have their fees increase to the $200 AMP level.

It seems that many recent reports posted here by newer members have them paying $200+ to the MTs. I don't know if they don't know any better or if that's just what the other MTs are trying to get away with right now (of course they'll always try to get the most cash they can from the newbies). I just felt moved to throw my two cents in to hopefully keep prices and expectations on both sides where they were at. [/QUOTE]I think most will disagree. 200 is NOT normal. 50 for the door and 80 100 for a tip. If that. Nowhere have I ever paid over 150 total in Honolulu and that's getting, FS / BBBJCIM.

[QUOTE=Lkjhgf; 1093400]Kukui street, Are you from that area? Me too in the housing area.

IMMO for bebe your tipping is ok, when the A, S, is great you tip accordingly AMP or TM provider.

Had some AMP provider not worth $ total, but had some worth well over $$ for FS.

They is another MT girl in the building IMMO worth $$.20/$$.40 FS.

You're right Lily is sweet to the bone, and GFE, don' think she was with annie.

Lily's new girl looks good, pretty 8, A? (shy) S? Body 9, 5'5, 120, under 30.

Many of us looking for the skinny ones that you like, like gucci, monica, tiny, skye (mia) ,

Jolie, bobbie, kelly, small apple, etc.

For you guys that is economizing your funds, the best deal in town is the H / H for. 25 fee and. 80 tip.

KS, good hunting, stay safe.

The L Man[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. Looks like the general consensus is that MT should be less than AMPs. Anyhow I might be overpayin for the MT, but shit when I get a good one that treats me like royalty I can't help myself and feel justifyied paying 120 to 150 tip on top of the house. I have even met the goods ones outside the workplace even at their homes or my place.

Yeah, I lived in and around the housing area for years but two years ago moved just up Nu'uanu in the valley, a little cooler and greener.

Kukui

[QUOTE=Chief Bobo;1091506]Did Best Thai #3904 get busted again for prostitution? I've heard that their therapists are not even licensed and they actually pay Fernando Torres MAT#7613 so their business can operate. This was also the place Tanya was at before opening her own at CC #2603. She also pays Veronica Gonzalez Mat#9399 so their business can operate. What a shame to have unlicensed therapists working and never paying taxes on the money they make.[/QUOTE]Is this Tanya Chinese?

[QUOTE=Chief Bobo;1091506]Did Best Thai #3904 get busted again for prostitution? I've heard that their therapists are not even licensed and they actually pay Fernando Torres MAT#7613 so their business can operate. This was also the place Tanya was at before opening her own at CC #2603. She also pays Veronica Gonzalez Mat#9399 so their business can operate. What a shame to have unlicensed therapists working and never paying taxes on the money they make.[/QUOTE]Ta is licensed to thrill with a fantastic firm massage and she graduated suma cum lotty in the HE department with a degree from Spew U. That's all the qualifications I need matey.

[QUOTE=Capn Morgan;1093962]Ta is licensed to thrill with a fantastic firm massage and she graduated suma cum lotty in the HE department with a degree from Spew U. That's all the qualifications I need matey.[/QUOTE]Hahahahaha. I love it Captain! Spew U! Suma cum lotty! Hahahahoho. Crack me the puck up!

[QUOTE=Capn Morgan;1093962]Ta is licensed to thrill with a fantastic firm massage and she graduated suma cum lotty in the HE department with a degree from Spew U. That's all the qualifications I need matey.[/QUOTE]You said it all. That is hilarious.

[QUOTE=K Designs;1093754]Is this Tanya Chinese?[/QUOTE]Tanya is Thai

May have missed something in previous reports but anyone have digits for Morningstar, AKA "Keke's place", at Century Square? Can't find it anywhere.

[QUOTE=King Cobrack;1093493]I'm assuming the $100 is FS? And this is at Apple Massage? K. C.[/QUOTE]For real! Shoots, I was paying $.60 + house fee all this time.

Thanks for the heads up!

[QUOTE=Eviltwin;1094478]May have missed something in previous reports but anyone have digits for Morningstar, AKA "Keke's place", at Century Square? Can't find it anywhere.[/QUOTE]Try this # 931-9663

[QUOTE=Blake123;1094626]Try this # 931-9663[/QUOTE]Thanks, Braddah Blake!

Morningstar. Sara.

Wow I'm mostly a lurker but I had to write something since I was very disappointed based on previous descriptions.

Height description was accurate ( 5'3) but weight was more like a chubby 115. Also age seemed more like 35 versus 25. Natural (maybe be's) but I would definitely not consider "nice ones." nice lady, but wouldn't do full service for less than $$ (inclusive of house fee). I'm not the type to "haggle" on price and since I was there, I thought what the heck.

S & a was aight and she seemed to enjoy it a lot more than I did. Haha.

As far as l, just to be sure we are all using the same grading scale. If fantasia hana is a 10 and joanne from 7 is a 8+, then honestly sara is 4-5.

O well, live and learn.

[QUOTE=Kukui Street;1093183]Thanks for the info. I amalways on the hunt for the skinny, not more than 105, 110 max body types and 4'11 to 5'4. I put them in a different catagory than spinners. I like proprotional, thin legs and small ass and small tits are fine or even better.[/QUOTE]

TH advertises on Craigslist all the time and occasionally puts this girl's pic up. Anyone know her name? Looks like she's got some facial hair growing there.

[QUOTE=C Kramer;1094940]TH advertises on Craigslist all the time and occasionally puts this girl's pic up. Anyone know her name? Looks like she's got some facial hair growing there.[/QUOTE]Her name is Katana and this is a better likeness of her:

[url]http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/2070043433.html[/url]

IMHO she is better-looking in person and her Swedish massage is excellent. She has a nice voice and is very articulate and well-spoken.

H M

First thing I thought about when I saw her picture was, oh, oh, ladyboy. Guess not.

[QUOTE=C Kramer;1095069]First thing I thought about when I saw her picture was, oh, oh, ladyboy. Guess not.[/QUOTE]I thought that myself. Some of the Thai womens faces can be mistakenly thought of as being a guy.

[QUOTE=Jeju Man;1093679]I think most will disagree. 200 is NOT normal. 50 for the door and 80 100 for a tip. If that. Nowhere have I ever paid over 150 total in Honolulu and that's getting, FS / BBBJCIM.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are getting a good deal! I usually pay and found that most of the posts on this forum indicate that it's 50 hf / 150 FS at AMPs and 60hf / 100-140 FS at MTs. HJs and BJs are between 40-80 (total 100-140 including hf) depending on who the provider is. Would definitely be interested in knowing where / how you get that kind of service for 150 total.

[QUOTE=Kanaka01;1095164]Sounds like you are getting a good deal! I usually pay and found that most of the posts on this forum indicate that it's 50 hf / 150 FS at AMPs and 60hf / 100-140 FS at MTs. HJs and BJs are between 40-80 (total 100-140 including hf) depending on who the provider is. Would definitely be interested in knowing where / how you get that kind of service for 150 total.[/QUOTE]One place is CHM. Sandy. 50 for the door. 60 80 tip. Usually 80. See her often. YMMV. First time up. She might stick you. Hold your ground. Walk out if need be. She'll change her mind when she sees you starting to walk out.

Again, the rates I pay. I think it's because I see them regularly.

If it's the first time I have seen a particular gal and the price is high. I do walk out. Many other places to go to.

[QUOTE=C Kramer;1095069]First thing I thought about when I saw her picture was, oh, oh, ladyboy. Guess not.[/QUOTE]You never know until you see the results of a DNA test. Thai plastic surgeons are very good at their katoey transformations. Their man made pussies have amazed some ob / gyns.

[QUOTE=Jeju Man; 1095267]One place is CHM. Sandy. 50 for the door. 60 80 tip. Usually 80. See her often. YMMV. First time up. She might stick you. Hold your ground. Walk out if need be. She'll change her mind when she sees you starting to walk out.

Again, the rates I pay. I think it's because I see them regularly.

If it's the first time I have seen a particular gal and the price is high. I do walk out. Many other places to go to. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the info and advice, appreciate it!

[QUOTE=Kanaka01;1095164]Sounds like you are getting a good deal! I usually pay and found that most of the posts on this forum indicate that it's 50 hf / 150 FS at AMPs and 60hf / 100-140 FS at MTs. HJs and BJs are between 40-80 (total 100-140 including hf) depending on who the provider is. Would definitely be interested in knowing where / how you get that kind of service for 150 total.[/QUOTE]I a seeing 50 to 60 for massage and 80 for FS. I have had it two different places with different girls at each place. By the way I show the money upfront.

In a few words."Awe Lose Money" got to 1188 Bishop street, Since it was after 7pm the entry gate was closed so call and MS came down to get me. Right in front of the security office. We get up to the room and open the door them Bam! Another mongert was "kicking it" in the hall-way drapped in a towel. (Should have left right then, missed flag #1) Then MS said You lucky day today you get me! Awryte! (I thought) Then she said, shower busy now, you go shower later! I said,"OK" Then Mama said $60! (House fee) I give you massage first ok? So I stripped and layed on my back, (I wasn't there for massage) she said I do your back first. (Should have left, Flag #2) after about 15 minutes, I hear the door open, Then moma says in my ear, you like boom boom? I got girl for you! I said I thought you going take care of me! She said no can right now, she nice girl, you can boom, boom good. Her name Sara. (I really should have left then flag #3) I was horny, I was naked, (and since I took the blue magic) I was stiff. I was pissed but I said OK. So Mama left and Sara got undressed. Her body was ok, but not as firm and athletic as mama. She got the comdom out and put it on. I told her try suck it without first! She said No Can! So she put the cover on and began a lame CBJ. She put her lips to the head and used her hand. I said see how much you can take! She said, I choke! I said yeah good! And laughed! She said Nooo! (I should have walked out. Flag#4) then she got on the little sofa, laid back bent her knees and showed me her pussy. I said ok, I put the head in and she made this fake ass head move. She say too big go slow. I'll admit I'm an average Pacific Islander. (No airline has ever charged me extra for a big bag. If you know what I mean) so seeing this fake attitude bothered me! I couldn't look at her. So I said turn around! She said ok, so she pulled my sled for awhile, I tried mushing her, (soft ass slaps) she reached her hand back and she No! About a minut later she said you cum now! I said not ready yet! Then she moved forward and pulled away. She turned around and said I give you hand job! I said No need! I'm leaving! She said 140! I said I no finish + it was only 10 minutes! I said I give you 100. She said noo! You had two girls! You pay 140. I said two girls! I didn't ask you to come in! I said OK hows this; I give you 140 and I No come back! 100 and I come back another day! She said no you pay now. I gave her the 1. 40 then mama came in and said. I sorry! What happen she no good? I said she no good today! Maybe another day better. So mama said! You come back, I give you big discount. And next time you do me. I said no worry, I no come back. I can go plenty places and get better service. And I left!

I don't like the bait and switch crap. Especially after the session had started like 15-20 minutes. Sara's attitude last night really sucked! She didn't want to be there that was clear. Another fact: after 7 pm someone will have to come down and let you in. The security just kept looking at me while I waited, the young guard looked at me a nodded his head. Like to tell me he knows where I was going and why. My whole experience was horrible. The dammage was 200 and I got nothing for it! Man at least I should have been given an eggroll for stopping bye!

Stay safe!

Pau

[QUOTE=Hawaiian Nono;1095353]I a seeing 50 to 60 for massage and 80 for FS. I have had it two different places with different girls at each place. By the way I show the money upfront.[/QUOTE]I'm just wondering if you care to share where these two different places and who these girls are? K. C.

Went to Apple the other day and got serviced by Coco. Her massage was decent. I would guess her to be in her late 30s, but it is so dark that it's hard to tell. After the flip she asked me if I wanted FS. Since I was horny I went for it. Started with a CBJ to cg and finished in mish. We than cuddled after, then I took a shower. L-7. 5 A-9 S-10. Total damage was $1. 5 and I will repeat for sure.