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[QUOTE=WhiteRookDown;2820595]It's called marketing. Since all the photos are stock commercial pics of Asian models, it's nothing more than trying to get more of us in the door.[/QUOTE]LOL, I knew the pics were fake of course, just didn't know if they had upgraded the talent at all.
[QUOTE=BackDoc;2820568]I have not been to Pine in a while, but suddenly heavy advertising on BP. Anybody been there lately, more of the same, or is it actually new therapists? [URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/all-new-grand-opening-at-last-never-a-rush-new-pine-spa/33944135[/URL].[/QUOTE]I've said this so many times in the past. If an AMP starts advertising as New, or Under New Management, or New Girls, or New Attitude, they are reacting to a lack of business brought about by their own bad behavior. Consider, if you got a bad burger at McDonalds, and you stopped going, would you return because they replaced Ronald McDonald with some other clown? Probably not, as you should realize that the problem with that burger is the entire crew or culture. But at an AMP? The grandma shorts you on time, upsells you at that special moment, then says that you are Too Big for a HJ, no touching and to hurry up. Well, you'd get pissed and swear never to return. No more repeat customers, which is their life blood. So they spend a few hundred bucks on BP or CL ads and Presto Chango, everything is better, right?
First, AMPs have a tendency to rotate the girls and even the mammasans to different locations on a regular basis anyway. And that's what really kills me. I get in good with the MS, she knows me as a safe, good tipping repeat customer, and she's gone. Her replacement doesn't know me from Adam, and if one of my regular girls isn't there to vouch for me, I'm back to square one.
But really, this whole New, New, New thing is just a load of bullshit. Go ahead and ask them when you stop by, What's changed? You're likely to get a Me No Understand answer, and the same old service.
Consider yourself lucky if you find an AMP that provides good service, keeps some good providers and remembers you.
As for Pine? I haven't been there in at least 5 years, and I don't work far from it at all. I gave up on them when getting charged. 8 for a massage with a so-so table shower and a constant upsell. Same with Cozy.
[QUOTE=Rub&Tugged;2819499]Strip mall across from Round Lake Walmart. I didn't go in, but I wasn't born yesterday either.[/QUOTE]Yup, here's an ad: [URL]http://racine.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/all-new-grand-opening-never-a-rush-lilly-therapy-and-spa/14835233[/URL].
I called twice, no answer / didn't leave a message. I assume it's next to the liquor store, which is a bit of a high traffic area, especially at night. I hope they have a rear entrance.
[QUOTE=Zeuss;2823539]Yup, here's an ad: [URL]http://racine.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/all-new-grand-opening-never-a-rush-lilly-therapy-and-spa/14835233[/URL].
I called twice, no answer / didn't leave a message. I assume it's next to the liquor store, which is a bit of a high traffic area, especially at night. I hope they have a rear entrance.[/QUOTE]Being a sucker for overproduced adds, and wanting to believe the women in the pictures actually exist, I hit Lilly's on Thursday. It's high traffic, right next to liquor store. Dude actually walked in wrong door interrupting my session! Anyway. This report should be considered preliminary due to it being their 3rd day open, not fully staffed yet. Contrary to the pics, there is no hot asian modeling convention going on there. One person was there. She said reinforcements coming the next day. She was slim, yet probs about low 40's. Massage was different, DRY, no oil, she used a thin lint cloth (rather than towel they usually start with. That said, overall good massage. Awkward ending, said "all finished" then I asked if she needed massage, she said yes but sat on chair rather than laying down. Got to say it was kinda hot rubbing her with Yeoch JR poking her in the back. At this point I dreamed she said "did you need more?" and had me lie on the table for an average standard finish.
Not sure I'll go back until reports of reinforcements being a generation younger. And maybe adding oil to the mix.
Just had a great girl friend experience. No rush, BBBJ, great ts, cuddling, can't wait to go back. Seniors only please.
[QUOTE=Yeouch;2824025]Being a sucker for overproduced adds, and wanting to believe the women in the pictures actually exist,[/QUOTE]FYI for the most part Asian agency ads never have their employees in the pics, only models.
[QUOTE] I hit Lilly's on Thursday. It's high traffic, right next to liquor store. Dude actually walked in wrong door interrupting my session! Anyway. This report should be considered preliminary due to it being their 3rd day open, not fully staffed yet. Contrary to the pics, there is no hot asian modeling convention going on there. One person was there. She said reinforcements coming the next day. She was slim, yet probs about low 40's. Massage was different, DRY, no oil, she used a thin lint cloth (rather than towel they usually start with. That said, overall good massage. Awkward ending, said "all finished" then I asked if she needed massage, she said yes but sat on chair rather than laying down. Got to say it was kinda hot rubbing her with Yeoch JR poking her in the back. At this point I dreamed she said "did you need more?" and had me lie on the table for an average standard finish.
Not sure I'll go back until reports of reinforcements being a generation younger. And maybe adding oil to the mix.[/QUOTE]So they are open. I wasn't sure since I never got an answer / they don't have a VM message. Also drove by yesterday late afternoon / evening and they were closed.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2814320]Sent you a PM. Bob.[/QUOTE]Bob, thanks for your info on this one. Easy set-up and enjoyed my time, will repeat.
I recently saw Lilly at the Lake Bluff office. Good massage, friendly, minimal upsell. I'll definitely repeat!
I have not been, but can say that start-up Chinese places sometimes start with one girl until traffic picks up. They monitor by camera in the lobby. If the door was locked, the girl might have been in session. They try to avoid interrupting a massage for new guys walking in the door. From the perspective of the client, try to take note of where they lock the door. It means you might have good privacy. Bob.
[QUOTE=Zeuss;2826235]FYI for the most part Asian agency ads never have their employees in the pics, only models.
So they are open. I wasn't sure since I never got an answer / they don't have a VM message. Also drove by yesterday late afternoon / evening and they were closed.[/QUOTE]
Stopped at Cozy last week and had a taller, slightly younger gal with a terrific rack. Great body all together. She did not do my TS, but came in for the massage and finish. Nothing out of the ordinary, but well done by one of the better looking women I have found in the area in a while.
[QUOTE=RubAddicted;2826113]Just had a great girl friend experience. No rush, BBBJ, great ts, cuddling, can't wait to go back. Seniors only please.[/QUOTE]Any way you can let me know where? Not quite gf experince, but lulu at M2 was a good visit. Have been to see her 3 times, bBBJ to start, seemed open to fia. Did not complain when I slid a finger in there.
Hit what was at the top of my list a few times over the last week and unfortunately I think the LEO scare or my abilities at basic AMP interactions are impacting service levels. Last week required a self-finish (Candy?) - which I hate the thought of even typing out. Then on my last visit I draw a new girl I've not seen before. Pull all the moves she didn't even offer the oil for the dreaded selfie. Time to revise the "best of lake county" list.
[QUOTE=RubAddicted;2826113]Just had a great girl friend experience. No rush, BBBJ, great ts, cuddling, can't wait to go back. Seniors only please.[/QUOTE]I would second that. I've tried the place before but lately they've turned up notch in their services.
[QUOTE=Yeouch;2836455]Hit what was at the top of my list a few times over the last week and unfortunately I think the LEO scare or my abilities at basic AMP interactions are impacting service levels. Last week required a self-finish (Candy?) - which I hate the thought of even typing out. Then on my last visit I draw a new girl I've not seen before. Pull all the moves she didn't even offer the oil for the dreaded selfie. Time to revise the "best of lake county" list.[/QUOTE]Had a similar experience on Tuesday. Had been there when they first opened, and got decent massage with standard finish. This time, self service "I don't know you" line. They now have an index card box at the front to put your name on, so they know you are "OK" next time more Honey. Massage was decent, so I may try one more time. I did get offered some oil, so I did get that much "help" LOL.
[QUOTE=BackDoc;2839956]Had a similar experience on Tuesday. Had been there when they first opened, and got decent massage with standard finish. This time, self service "I don't know you" line. They now have an index card box at the front to put your name on, so they know you are "OK" next time more Honey. Massage was decent, so I may try one more time. I did get offered some oil, so I did get that much "help" LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes. I'm on the punch card as well. Said after 10 visits no more self-serve!
Thankfully Anna's place (s) are around and all is right in the world again. Consistent quality and no hassles.
I'm 19 years old and I very much enjoy AMPs. Lake Spa in Fox lake was pretty good before the arrest that happened there. Always left with a good massage and happy endings. I tried Mystic now known as Green and left unhappy. Can anybody pm any places that offer bbbjs or just a good place in general.
I have driven by there several times in the last few weeks and lights out. No one there. It would make me believe it is closed. It was going down hill anyway. Anyone with an update?
Went by sunset today and figure I could use a massage to loosen up the back. Got a new girl there, maybe thirtyish. Very small, maybe around 5 foot. Very playful and giggly. Standard handshake for finish. Wil try to repeat and get her again, see what new menu options open up the next time around.
[QUOTE=BigWillie1111;2841209]I have driven by there several times in the last few weeks and lights out. No one there. It would make me believe it is closed. It was going down hill anyway. Anyone with an update?[/QUOTE]Drove by Island today. Place is empty and cleaned out. Maybe there's a new burrito place coming. In Waconda, bebind the firestation, the shop has a sign. Break until April. FWIW no extras there anyway. Bob.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2843936]Drove by Island today. Place is empty and cleaned out. Maybe there's a new burrito place coming. In Waconda, bebind the firestation, the shop has a sign. Break until April. FWIW no extras there anyway. Bob.[/QUOTE]I think wauconda place was the one that I just walked out instead of waiting for the performance. Now I'm kindda glad I did!
Back from a month out of town; and, stupidly, had to check on the new ads for Libertyville's classic. Same mamasan who said they got some new staff, paint, and carpets. I remarked I hoped the staff was as good as Sue and Gigi. Older woman gave an excellent TS, and a young cutie came to the room for the massage. After about 5 minutes she asked what I was looking for, and said DTY and a HE were on the menu, but for a see-note. Top comes off for. 60; can touch for. 80; and shorts drop for 1. I told her what the normal rates were, and if that wasn't enough, she could just do the massage. She actually said she didn't know how to massage, and her terrible attempt validated her remarks. Great body, and it was tempting to just say the hell with it and pay the price. I held my ground, and left satisfied I wasn't completely ripped. Thankfully, Sunny indicate she was soon going back to CA. I think Pine is definitely off the go-to list. Oh, same old. 80 door fee.
Same old nonsense with the tipping.
[QUOTE=ReadyForRub;2844997]Back from a month out of town; and, stupidly, had to check on the new ads for Libertyville's classic. Same mamasan who said they got some new staff, paint, and carpets. I remarked I hoped the staff was as good as Sue and Gigi. Older woman gave an excellent TS, and a young cutie came to the room for the massage. After about 5 minutes she asked what I was looking for, and said DTY and a HE were on the menu, but for a see-note. Top comes off for. 60; can touch for. 80; and shorts drop for 1. I told her what the normal rates were, and if that wasn't enough, she could just do the massage. She actually said she didn't know how to massage, and her terrible attempt validated her remarks. Great body, and it was tempting to just say the hell with it and pay the price. I held my ground, and left satisfied I wasn't completely ripped. Thankfully, Sunny indicate she was soon going back to CA. I think Pine is definitely off the go-to list. Oh, same old. 80 door fee.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://racine.backpage.com/BodyRubs/unforgettable-the-ultimate-asian-paradise/14835256[/URL]
They advertise in Kenosha / Racine but they are in Lake Villa. Anyone been there? I'm thinking of going tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Lurker02;2854306][URL]http://racine.backpage.com/BodyRubs/unforgettable-the-ultimate-asian-paradise/14835256[/URL]
They advertise in Kenosha / Racine but they are in Lake Villa. Anyone been there? I'm thinking of going tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Yes. I went the first week they opened and gave a mixed review. See post on 3/6. Contrary to some replies I received, I guess mild sarcasm can be misunderstood and I do understand that asian supermodels do not generally give massages in lake county IL!
Met nice woman named Tina at Cozy. Nothing out of the ordinary, OK massage, but great handshake.
Saw Amy recently at the Lk bluff location. Attractive girl, pretty good massage, no issues whatsoever, would repeat.
Finally got around to hitting lilly spa, the new place in lake villa. Nothing to write home about.
Got a very good massage, nice and hard. The lady isnstrong.
Good looking, tight body for her age. Late 40's at the minimun. Tight ass and decent rack. Teasing left a lot to be desired, roaming was not really encouraged. Gave a good handshake and only was able to rub the booty on the outside of the clothes. Her positioning was too far away to do any good roaming.
I may return for the massage, maybe see if things loosen up, but as it stands I would not really return unless my back was really hurting. All else was as vanilla as you can get.
70 on the hour and standard rate for the handshake.
[QUOTE=Rabble;2860895]Finally got around to hitting lilly spa, the new place in lake villa. Nothing to write home about.
Got a very good massage, nice and hard. The lady isnstrong.
Good looking, tight body for her age. Late 40's at the minimun. Tight ass and decent rack. Teasing left a lot to be desired, roaming was not really encouraged. Gave a good handshake and only was able to rub the booty on the outside of the clothes. Her positioning was too far away to do any good roaming.
I may return for the massage, maybe see if things loosen up, but as it stands I would not really return unless my back was really hurting. All else was as vanilla as you can get.
70 on the hour and standard rate for the handshake.[/QUOTE]Sounds like same gal and service since first opened. She was supposed to get help next day. Very attractive for her age but. Cmon. The fake add to real experience ratio way off on that one.
[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;2860576]Saw Amy recently at the Lk bluff location. Attractive girl, pretty good massage, no issues whatsoever, would repeat.[/QUOTE]Is this the place? [URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-asian-massage-near-gurnee/35812385[/URL].
After a long self imposed haitis I hit the Sunset after trying Chinese Massage and they had a full house. Almost a relief because whenever you step in Chinese and see the snuggle toothed, snowman shaped masseuse you know you should run. Anyway, had a very nice 30 something. Nice figure but light on the rack. She gave the most random but enjoyable massage with plenty of playfulness. On the flip I had her lay down and gave her a nice massage and got to see some ass and give her the playful gropes. Finished with standard yet quality handshake. Very nice experience with only upsell being push for 4 hands initially. Only caution was when leaving I saw a troll that would give the snaggle tooth snowman a run for her money. I guess you can't expect all to be perfect!
I am a tad sore around shoulders and legs. Looking to take a plunge. Like a T. S. First. Last time I visited a Wauk area spa Cozy was best. Who is currently best in area for T. S. / decent "handywork?" Normally go to K-town / Racine but that is too far for a while but can trade info up there with senior members.
Tried the new girl taking over for Amy. Fairly young, IMO attractive, quiet, shy. Standard finish, no issues there. (Very light- touch massage, so don't expect her to get rid of any kinks in your neck or pains in your back.).
Based on location went with Sunset. $70-$40 was damage with TS. Sherry or Cherry was attendent. English not best but for sure way better than other Asian. Massage above avg. But United still best overall IMHO.
I've been to Anna's UTR three times now with the first two sessions being very good with young and fairly attractive therapists. Well, I drew a dud on this last visit. Didn't quite get her name, sounded like Kaiya. She paused a lot during the massage. Strange, put forth very little effort, and not the slightest tease. The flip was average and by the time I walked out I realized I was shorted close to 15 minutes. As a result I went "light" on the tip. I will return, but I don't recommend Kaiya and she's on the "thicker" side for a Chinese woman that has "only" been in the states for a year.
[QUOTE=MotorCity77;2871776]I've been to Anna's UTR three times now with the first two sessions being very good with young and fairly attractive therapists. Well, I drew a dud on this last visit. Didn't quite get her name, sounded like Kaiya. She paused a lot during the massage. Strange, put forth very little effort, and not the slightest tease. The flip was average and by the time I walked out I realized I was shorted close to 15 minutes. As a result I went "light" on the tip. I will return, but I don't recommend Kaiya and she's on the "thicker" side for a Chinese woman that has "only" been in the states for a year.[/QUOTE]I think her name is "Zha-ya". In general lately I've noticed inconsistent "Play" there also.
[QUOTE=HeadFirst80;2872052]I think her name is "Zha-ya". In general lately I've noticed inconsistent "Play" there also.[/QUOTE]Bella seems eager, enthusiastic and skilled. Something to consider to improve the inconsistency.
[QUOTE=HeadFirst80;2872052]I think her name is "Zha-ya". In general lately I've noticed inconsistent "Play" there also.[/QUOTE]I suggest telling Anna directly when one of her girls isn't doing a good job. She doesn't always know when she hires a "dud" though, so she really needs to hear it from us. She is approachable, and easy to reach by phone too.
[QUOTE=Zoomy99;2872184]Bella seems eager, enthusiastic and skilled. Something to consider to improve the inconsistency.[/QUOTE]Yes, I second that motion. Bella does a fine job and compared to many others AMPs, she's younger and attractive enough.
[QUOTE=HeadFirst80;2872052]I think her name is "Zha-ya". In general lately I've noticed inconsistent "Play" there also.[/QUOTE]I thought I heard a "K". LOL. Either way, I don't recommend and my only disappointing experience there thus far.
[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;2872312]I suggest telling Anna directly when one of her girls isn't doing a good job. She doesn't always know when she hires a "dud" though, so she really needs to hear it from us. She is approachable, and easy to reach by phone too.[/QUOTE]Always been a big fan of Anna's UTR, but after several recent bad experiences, she did something else that really pissed me off; so I'm done with her. I'm not posting specifics.