Kison

[QUOTE=HiLife808;1970916]Perhaps it's quite the opposite. No logical reason to increase hf if they're really that busy. Maybe they're not as busy as we think they are. Sounds like mms is trying to compensate her pockets for the drop in business with the increase.[/QUOTE]I think Ricosuave808 is right. The 60 HF is just to take advantage of the fact that it is busy. It wouldn't make sense to raise the HF when it's slow because it will only make it slower. What MT / AMP raises HF when it's slow? Look at what providers do when they busy. They upsell to discourage customers from partaking because they are busy if not too busy. By upselling, it can help slow things down at the same time bring more incentive to them because it's busy.

[QUOTE=RicoSuave808;1970728]Also, $60 HF translates to $140 for the hard working girls.[/QUOTE]I think this is a good point. For the most part, I've found that Kison women are among the hardest working and I've received excellent service from some troupers over the last few years.

TEHO, but I'll have to bring a little extra because I think their service is worth more than 140.

$10 is not drastic and may be part of the rationale for the increase, but I have no qualms about tipping the standard 140 at places in CC.

Yes. KISON girls are worth there weight in gold. However $60 for a HF with no table shower will be hard justify with Empire Relaxation on the block. Not to mention a nude shower with Nana at Mayflower for $60/140. KISON is very busy. So maybe they think the price increase will reduce the client flow to a manageable level (So educate me. Is it $60/140 at KISON or $60/150. I do not want to upset whatever amount the forum members suggest what I should be paying.

HotDaddy! I never fucked a girl at the AMP, I only made sweet love to her.

[QUOTE=HotDaddy;1971672]Yes. KISON girls are worth there weight in gold. However $60 for a HF with no table shower will be hard justify with Empire Relaxation on the block. Not to mention a nude shower with Nana at Mayflower for $60/140. KISON is very busy. So maybe they think the price increase will reduce the client flow to a manageable level (So educate me. Is it $60/140 at KISON or $60/150. I do not want to upset whatever amount the forum members suggest what I should be paying.

HotDaddy! I never fucked a girl at the AMP, I only made sweet love to her.[/QUOTE]If I elect to go to Kison I'm still tipping $150 regardless of what the house fee is. These women really give it their best and I don't think it's fair to deduct from them in terms of what the house fee is. But in another way, that hike in the house may effect Kison providers' income anyway if guys like me end up going somewheres else out of protest against the steep house fee.

My second time with Paula. I don't remember her doing this before but she has a BBBJ technique that I could get addicted to real fast. I haven't had any other provider do it with me the way she does. She gets into DT mode but then she isn't sucking and pumping. She just hangs out there and is doing this thing with her tongue which just tickles my dick from different angles. Very sensitive / delicate; works for me; such a turn. On. Paula loves having her clit sucked, and like hard! Had her sitting on my face and total eye. Contact and she is saying "suck it harder!" Later, after I came in doggie, she's giving me a massage, and BTW, she is capable of going deep and really breaking up the muscle knots if that's your thing. I wasn't there for that, just wanted a relaxing rub so had to ask her to back off the pressure, but definitely she has massage skills. Then she starts sucking and rubbing my dick again to get me hard and she succeeds. But I know I'm only good for one pop even if I do get hard again. So I told her but she wasn't buying it. She thought if I could get hard again I could oof her again too! Felt sorry to let her down. Even though I'm an old guy, since I'm in shape she decided I should be able to F her again! Anyways, it's better to be in that situation where the provider wants more from me even if I don't have it to give, rather than to be with someone who is not feeling it and just going through the motions, complete with the fake moans etc.

L7, S9.5, A10. Had my Yoko experience today and still flying. I don't usually do long descriptions where others already have, but I can't help it. Just to get it out of the way, about the only (minor) detractor is looks. Yoko is about 35+, round faced with a short sparkplug body and a bit of pook. Boobs are natural be with nondistinct nipples. She looks prettiest when pounding in mish. OTOH, attitude and performance are world class! She starts with the sensuous, boob grazing, tongue flicking prone massage, culminating in insisting that I get my hips not only frog legged, but then fully flexed up to allow thorough rimming and ball play. Her foreplay had me seriously hyperventilating! BBBJ was a little shallow but accompanied with all the accoutrements She then placed her nani where I could stroke it, whereupon she jumped me with it square in my face for 69. I don't do this much, and never yet at an AMP, but she seemed so into the process, that I couldn't say no (if I did, it would have been a mumble, anyway)! She honestly seemed to love the sex as much as me, jumping on for CG and grinding in such a way that made it seem obvious that she was pumping for herself. Then to mish, where I enjoyed her face and her apparent repeated Os. I finally popped hugely, after which she had me slide in and out for a full couple minutes. When I pulled out, she just had to go down for a few more strokes of BJ before going for the hot towel, furthering the afterglow. From there, onto a world class, firm, full body massage that went on and on. She stopped for a bit, and I thought she was done. I couldn't believe it when she asked me if I wanted to go again! When I said I sadly didn't have it in me, she made lay back down for even more massage. She clearly was not going to let me out of there without getting my full hour's worth, plus. Besides the drink of water and mouthwash, she wouldn't let me get dressed without just a little more BBBJ action to say farewell.

[QUOTE=MeinArschUndde;1972233]L7, S9.5, A10. Had my Yoko experience today and still flying. I don't usually do long descriptions where others already have, but I can't help it. Just to get it out of the way, about the only (minor) detractor is looks. Yoko is about 35+, round faced with a short sparkplug body and a bit of pook. Boobs are natural be with nondistinct nipples. She looks prettiest when pounding in mish. OTOH, attitude and performance are world class! She starts with the sensuous, boob grazing, tongue flicking prone massage, culminating in insisting that I get my hips not only frog legged, but then fully flexed up to allow thorough rimming and ball play. Her foreplay had me seriously hyperventilating! BBBJ was a little shallow but accompanied with all the accoutrements She then placed her nani where I could stroke it, whereupon she jumped me with it square in my face for 69. I don't do this much, and never yet at an AMP, but she seemed so into the process, that I couldn't say no (if I did, it would have been a mumble, anyway)! She honestly seemed to love the sex as much as me, jumping on for CG and grinding in such a way that made it seem obvious that she was pumping for herself. Then to mish, where I enjoyed her face and her apparent repeated Os. I finally popped hugely, after which she had me slide in and out for a full couple minutes. When I pulled out, she just had to go down for a few more strokes of BJ before going for the hot towel, furthering the afterglow. From there, onto a world class, firm, full body massage that went on and on. She stopped for a bit, and I thought she was done. I couldn't believe it when she asked me if I wanted to go again! When I said I sadly didn't have it in me, she made lay back down for even more massage. She clearly was not going to let me out of there without getting my full hour's worth, plus. Besides the drink of water and mouthwash, she wouldn't let me get dressed without just a little more BBBJ action to say farewell.[/QUOTE]MAU.

Glad you enjoyed as I did. I was in lust and I personally though she looked great. But we all have different taste. I concur with the service report. Such a giving pleasing woman. I also concur that she made are we had our full hour of fun and or massage. For me I will surely be back to more of Yoko.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;1971968]My second time with Paula. I don't remember her doing this before but she has a BBBJ technique that I could get addicted to real fast. I haven't had any other provider do it with me the way she does. She gets into DT mode but then she isn't sucking and pumping. She just hangs out there and is doing this thing with her tongue which just tickles my dick from different angles. Very sensitive / delicate; works for me; such a turn. On. Paula loves having her clit sucked, and like hard! Had her sitting on my face and total eye. Contact and she is saying "suck it harder!" Later, after I came in doggie, she's giving me a massage, and BTW, she is capable of going deep and really breaking up the muscle knots if that's your thing. I wasn't there for that, just wanted a relaxing rub so had to ask her to back off the pressure, but definitely she has massage skills. Then she starts sucking and rubbing my dick again to get me hard and she succeeds. But I know I'm only good for one pop even if I do get hard again. So I told her but she wasn't buying it. She thought if I could get hard again I could oof her again too! Felt sorry to let her down. Even though I'm an old guy, since I'm in shape she decided I should be able to F her again! Anyways, it's better to be in that situation where the provider wants more from me even if I don't have it to give, rather than to be with someone who is not feeling it and just going through the motions, complete with the fake moans etc.[/QUOTE]Nice post bro, once I was with her and she started playing her music on her iPad like she always does. This time though, when the deed was done she told me thanks for starring in her movie. She then took out the iPad and starting showing me footage of our session together. Freaky chick was recording it!! I thought it was cool and asked her to email it to me, which she did. I love chicks like that who know how to please.

Had a good time with this lady. Korean MILF. Not great in the looks department but not bad either. Service and attitude are 10's across the board. She has great pussy control and is multi. Orgasmic. BBBJ, rim dfk, bbfscip and a really relaxing massage after. I was there over 90 minutes with no knock on the door. One of the most pleasant women I have had there. I left completely satisfied.

Went to kison today to see what's paula all about. Was eating at graces and after decided to up there to check her out. When I rang the buzzer out came Chanel in a tube top and a mini skit. (dam she looked fine) I immediate ask if she was available, she just smiled and said no. Then I ask for paula but she was busy, then ask for yoko but busy too. So I asked for mms again but she said no again (DAM) I even said I got a hard on just looking at you, she just smiled and said to come back later. WTF So I just left. Any of you mongers had an appointment with Chanel? If you did you are dam dam lucky cause she was looking HOT.

[QUOTE=TomThumb69;1972456]Went to kison today to see what's paula all about. Was eating at graces and after decided to up there to check her out. When I rang the buzzer out came Chanel in a tube top and a mini skit. (dam she looked fine) I immediate ask if she was available, she just smiled and said no. Then I ask for paula but she was busy, then ask for yoko but busy too. So I asked for mms again but she said no again (DAM) I even said I got a hard on just looking at you, she just smiled and said to come back later. WTF So I just left. Any of you mongers had an appointment with Chanel? If you did you are dam dam lucky cause she was looking HOT.[/QUOTE]Sup bro, back when Chanel first opened, I was lucky to get a massage and BBBJ from her. Forgot what the price was but I also remember going back for more Chanel and she said she couldn't take the business away from her girls. I must've just got lucky that one time. She gave an incredible BJ, I remember cumming in her mouth and she looked up and just smiled before spitting it into the towel.

Brothers, I would like to first thank all of you the written advice and tips. The camaraderie on these threads is evidently true based on the mannerisms and sage advice to the newbies in the area. I visited Kiss just a moment ago and saw Yuki. She popped every vertebrae in my back and neck. Very pleasant smelled very good she was a bit leery at first. But when she started that tickle thing..man. Llfk, BBBJ, cfs, cg, standing Mish (put a pillow under, it makes the angle just right for her) k9, lying k9, some tantric stuff out of the tool box. She seemed like holy* Definitely enjoyed everything I was doing. MS courteous, and dawn what a regal looker. Definitely will be back. Again to many to thank here. My first time. You guys put my mind at ease. Suggestion on next one appreciated.

[QUOTE=TomThumb69;1972456]Went to kison today to see what's paula all about. Was eating at graces and after decided to up there to check her out. When I rang the buzzer out came Chanel in a tube top and a mini skit. (dam she looked fine) I immediate ask if she was available, she just smiled and said no. Then I ask for paula but she was busy, then ask for yoko but busy too. So I asked for mms again but she said no again (DAM) I even said I got a hard on just looking at you, she just smiled and said to come back later. WTF So I just left. Any of you mongers had an appointment with Chanel? If you did you are dam dam lucky cause she was looking HOT.[/QUOTE]I been hitting Kison for several years now and have TRIED waay too many times to get Chanel. She just smiles, thanks me and politely says "No" ONce she even told me "I junkee". I don't think so, but I may never know.

Most beautiful, and probably the youngest (30-35) that I have ever been with at Kison.

L / A / S. 9/10/9.

Dropped in around 8 pm. Paula and Yoko busy, Naomi not working in the evenings. Had to choose between the two newbies. I think one was April. Decided to pic other newbie with the large see's. Petite 35+ with shoulder length hair and average curves. Big mistake, shouldve came back another time. You could tell she was new becuase she argued witb me about BBBJ. To me that's the only benefit of Kison is the BBFS and BBBJ at the minimum. Anyway, went soft as a result of the 10 min discussion. Another chance to leave and I didn't. Her BBBJ skills were lackng and the rest was nothing to write home about. Probaly one of the worst BBFS vivits I can remember. Will not repeat and wait until the btr talent returns aftr the holidays.

[QUOTE=FootballFann12;1974572]Most beautiful, and probably the youngest (30-35) that I have ever been with at Kison.

L / A / S. 9/10/9.[/QUOTE]Boobs, Body, Face? Performance?

[QUOTE=MeinArschUndde;1974788]Boobs, Body, Face? Performance?[/QUOTE]Yes, saw her yesterday afternoon around 1300. Have to agree with FBfann that she is one of the younger ones there. 30 ish, pretty face, typical Korean MILF body with nice real see's, beautiful creamy smooth white skin and a nice perky ass.

I found her to be very attentive cause she stood outside the shower waiting for me, and insisted on drying me off right there cause wasn't busy I guess, more on this later. Back in the room she gave me a nice soft massage for about 15 minutes, but I turned over so we wouldn't run out of time. She is new and wasn't sure how to start so I kinda had to help her out. Had her start with a BBBJ which was quite good, not like Monica but stimulating. Had her climb on for 69 and she liked it but I stopped after a short time cause she had trouble concentrating on my BJ. Hehe. Had her start with CG for a short time cause she was already on top. She is nice and tight. Was OK for short time them moved to MISH then standing MISH where I came for the first time inside. She was comfortable with me I guess because she said that she really enjoyed that. Wiped up and she laid down next to me. After a few minutes she started stroking me awake and although I thought we were finished she pulled me on top for round 2. MISH for a short time and I was able to come again. Rested for a few minutes and then other Mama knocked on the door. After shower she helped me dress and I staggered out on rubber legs. Got just over an hour. L / A / S 7.5/10/9 Almost GFE and all BB which I only do here and at CHM. LOL.

Paid 60/140. They were not busy at all when I arrived and when I left there was only one door closed, so I assumed the new HF maybe is impacting business now. Although because they are a Massage therapist place they would charge what most of the other MT places charge, like the Thai places in CC, Penny's Paradise, Rejuve and places like those. I guess cost of business is going up all over. Chanel's girl are all very good so we shall see.

Anyone know who's working there now? Hasn't been as many reports since Kison raised the house fee.

[QUOTE=AlikaT9;1977950]Anyone know who's working there now? Hasn't been as many reports since Kison raised the house fee.[/QUOTE]That new policy hurts the providers who aren't as popular there. Custamahs are more picky with a 20% increase.

Walked into Kison just before lunch and was pleasantly suprised to here Pink just arrived from her 3 week vacation. I asked Chanel if it was okay to see her, answer is what I wanted to hear. I was her last customer going to vacation and as Pink said, you me first for 2014. I don't know if it was me but dang she was looking very good, slimmed down with that all so sexy waist. When she took her clothes off, she stood naked showing off her body and wow. She also got a perm so now her hair in CG facing me accents her beautiful face. Service wise 10's and hmmmm she got wet so so fast which made a very pleasant session.

[QUOTE=Memahu;1978431]That new policy hurts the providers who aren't as popular there. Custamahs are more picky with a 20% increase.[/QUOTE]Yes it does but it hurts everyone working there. $10 may not sound like much but it will add up. Can you afford to make 50 - 100 less per day at your job? This is what the girls are facing provided everyone sticks to paying 200 per visit. Example: provider A averages 100 customers a month. She will now make 1 k less because of the increase in hf. Now if provider A works 9 months out of the year she stands to lose 9 k+. We all know the popular girls sees more than a 100 customers (which averages out to 4 a day) but I used that figure to illustrate my point. If you don't think Empire has taken away business better think again. They have younger women who offer similar services has a ts and offers refreshments. All things being equal would you really chose a MILF over a PYT? It will be interesting to see how things play out over there.

[QUOTE=HiLife808;1979632]Yes it does but it hurts everyone working there. $10 may not sound like much but it will add up. Can you afford to make 50 - 100 less per day at your job? This is what the girls are facing provided everyone sticks to paying 200 per visit. Example: provider A averages 100 customers a month. She will now make 1 k less because of the increase in hf. Now if provider A works 9 months out of the year she stands to lose 9 k+. We all know the popular girls sees more than a 100 customers (which averages out to 4 a day) but I used that figure to illustrate my point. If you don't think Empire has taken away business better think again. They have younger women who offer similar services has a ts and offers refreshments. All things being equal would you really chose a MILF over a PYT? It will be interesting to see how things play out over there.[/QUOTE]I'll probably continue to tip $.5.

[QUOTE=AlikaT9;1977950]Anyone know who's working there now? Hasn't been as many reports since Kison raised the house fee.[/QUOTE]According to my guide, I have: Paula, Kelly, Yoko, Yuki, April, Linda, and the recently returned Pink. Not sure if that's completely accurate per HF increase, since I don't come to this place.

Had a session with Yoko this weekend. I was kind of let down as reports of her looks being decent and a legit massage to me were untrue. Her massage is only good compared with other AMP massages. What was true is that her fuck sessions are awesome. She loves sex and tries very hard to please. I may repeat, but would try others first.

[QUOTE=HiLife808;1979632]Yes it does but it hurts everyone working there. $10 may not sound like much but it will add up. Can you afford to make 50 - 100 less per day at your job? This is what the girls are facing provided everyone sticks to paying 200 per visit. Example: provider A averages 100 customers a month. She will now make 1 k less because of the increase in hf. Now if provider A works 9 months out of the year she stands to lose 9 k+. We all know the popular girls sees more than a 100 customers (which averages out to 4 a day) but I used that figure to illustrate my point. If you don't think Empire has taken away business better think again. They have younger women who offer similar services has a ts and offers refreshments. All things being equal would you really chose a MILF over a PYT? It will be interesting to see how things play out over there.[/QUOTE]I think a lot of regulars won't be pake with the top girls there.

Yes. I called KISON three times in the last month. If my girl was on vaca or busy. I just go to another place like ROSES. Any price increase is just going to make me WAY more selective. Did not get the best services at Roses. So told mama I will try and come back in 6 months.

HotDaddy!

[QUOTE=Kalani69;1979703]I'll probably continue to tip $.5.[/QUOTE]Same here. In fact I already have at Kison.

[QUOTE=Kalani69;1979703]I'll probably continue to tip $.5.[/QUOTE]I tip $140 now. No complaints yet.

[QUOTE=Hawaiisan;1980077]Had a session with Yoko this weekend. I was kind of let down as reports of her looks being decent and a legit massage to me were untrue. Her massage is only good compared with other AMP massages. What was true is that her fuck sessions are awesome. She loves sex and tries very hard to please. I may repeat, but would try others first.[/QUOTE]Looks are subjective and I would say no one has over-stated her looks. Saying she is "decent" isn't a stretch. Not everyone will agree as tastes vary greatly.

As for the massage, maybe you got her when she was tired? I've had a lot of massages at AMPs and hers is on the top end of the scale.

Good luck with others!

Vacation did her well, Jackie's back. Called ahead and talked with Chanel is said Jackie came back so I headed to Kison. Greeted by day time mama walked to my room hearing sweet sounds from 2 other rooms, paid the HF and less than a minute Jackie walks in. She had a glow surrounding her, full of energy, beautiful smile and looking awesome all in a lime green corset and skirt. Small talk leading to GFE session no holds bar. DATY was like dining on the Little Mermaid cause there was an ocean of cum with spasms after spams she turned to give me a deep and wet BBBJ. Back to DATY & DATO followed by cock slaps on that pussy till it was primed and ready. I swear she was phucken me more than I was phucken her, lots of engery. Went all the way to te knock on the door, ignored. Put some tasty treat in her mouth to finish the session. 1.5 hr later my legs was jello on the way out.

Paula, Jackie, Pink, Yoko, Angie, April, Linda.

I went to Kison about 2 weeks ago and asked for Jackie but not there, so had me choose. I chose April.

Great body for her age and very nice boobs. All I wanted was a BBBJ, so told her and she agreed.

Started with a basic rub down, the went at it.

Had her suck it in several different positions, then finally finished lying on my back. Had a lot of titty play, but she seemed like her nipples were pretty sensitive.

Nice lady but the BBBJ was only so-so. L6/ A8/ S7.

[QUOTE=Hawaiisan;1980077]Had a session with Yoko this weekend. I was kind of let down as reports of her looks being decent and a legit massage to me were untrue. Her massage is only good compared with other AMP massages. What was true is that her fuck sessions are awesome. She loves sex and tries very hard to please. I may repeat, but would try others first.[/QUOTE]Her's is a different look; that of a mature woman, and perhaps not for everyone although the same could be said of younger providers.

Personally I think she has a beautiful smile, and is quite charming and pleasant.

[QUOTE=HypoLuxa;1980898]Looks are subjective and I would say no one has over-stated her looks. Saying she is "decent" isn't a stretch. Not everyone will agree as tastes vary greatly. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HMobius;1984103]Her's is a different look; that of a mature woman, and perhaps not for everyone although the same could be said of younger providers.

Personally I think she has a beautiful smile, and is quite charming and pleasant.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree with those perceptive observations.

Also, in my opinion the age of the evaluator can sometimes be a factor. As I've become older, the proportion of women whose appearance I consider attractive or at least "decent" has definitely increased.

[QUOTE=Redneck1;1984389]Also, in my opinion the age of the evaluator can sometimes be a factor. As I've become older, the proportion of women whose appearance I consider attractive or at least "decent" has definitely increased.[/QUOTE]For some I guess, but you know what's funny is that I have been into MILFs since I was 20 years old.

[QUOTE=Redneck1;1984389]Yes, I agree with those perceptive observations.

Also, in my opinion the age of the evaluator can sometimes be a factor. As I've become older, the proportion of women whose appearance I consider attractive or at least "decent" has definitely increased.[/QUOTE]Or the number of the girls you consider "young" grows. Or a MILF for you might be a gilf for others.

[QUOTE=MondoBadfoot;1962475]Happy is on the mainland- spending Christmas with her peeps! No set date for her return, but she will be back![/QUOTE]Has anyone heard anything about Happy's return?

[QUOTE=Kainoa;1986168]Has anyone heard anything about Happy's return?[/QUOTE]I heard that Happy won't be returning...at least not back to Kison.

[QUOTE=CleanSweep;1986298]I heard that Happy won't be returning...at least not back to Kison.[/QUOTE]Heard that she cleaned out her stuff and left Saturday. Guess she not so Happy now. LOL. Hope she surfaces somewhere else.

[QUOTE=HiLife808;1979632]Yes it does but it hurts everyone working there. $10 may not sound like much but it will add up. Can you afford to make 50 - 100 less per day at your job? This is what the girls are facing provided everyone sticks to paying 200 per visit. Example: provider A averages 100 customers a month. She will now make 1 k less because of the increase in hf. Now if provider A works 9 months out of the year she stands to lose 9 k+. We all know the popular girls sees more than a 100 customers (which averages out to 4 a day) but I used that figure to illustrate my point..[/QUOTE]I don't know, but, I'm thinking that based upon your numbers, said provider would be making around oh say $126,000 TAX FREE for 9 months of work. Doesn't really get my sympathy juices flowing. I'm holding the line at $200 per hour total too include house and tip. Now run the numbers on what that little room is making. That's the business to be in (making little rooms and renting them for 50 or 60 bucks an hour).

Ss.

[QUOTE=CleanSweep;1986298]I heard that Happy won't be returning...at least not back to Kison.[/QUOTE]Credible source? Whether she's at Kison or not, hoping she comes back soon.