Thanks for the advice!
[QUOTE=Pussy Prowler; 1079776]Hi everyone, thanks for taking the time to read this I hope I help some newbies out as well as the seniors on here so you don't waste your time like I did tonight. First of all, when you look at the backpage escort ads, realize that yes they are mostly all fake. The ones that are real usually say "if it's not me its 100% free" and even then I've had a few that weren't the ones in the pics, but very close to it. When you think about it it makes sense, most of these providers simply don't want their real face pics on there, and even if it's blurred out it could simply be stolen from another provider, a cam site, the options are endless for posting these phony pics. The providers sometimes don't even know what pic is up of them, and when you consider that probably more than half of the monger that show up to an incall go through with it anyhow because they are either horny or don't have a back up plan, it makes sense for these providers / pimps / agencies to use fake pics, to simply generate more potential appointments. More appointments of johns that show up more money obviously.
Anyhow, back to my story. So today I saw an ad on backpage that interested me, these are my steps I personally take before I arrange anything!
1) I call, and ask if they doing incall / outcall (if not stated on the ad)
2) I ask for rates (if not stated on the ad)
3) I ask if the pics are real, (they all say yes of course, but at least they know I inquired)
4) I continue to insinuate that I'm not sure if the pics are real because most of the ads are fake, had bad experiences and just want an accurate description of what she looks like. (this sometimes gets them to come clean and tell me, or sometimes they tell me they are a 34b when in the ad it says they are a double the, etc, and you can filter out the bs this way, as I stated often times these girls don't even know which pics are being posted of them.
5) I also then ask them "well what if the pics are not of you? " They usually reply by saying, "don't worry they are. " then I counter with, "ok well if it's not I'm walking away (incall) or sending you away (outcall)
6) If they hold firm with claiming the pics are of them, then I copy and paste their phone number on google. Often times you will see red flags such as multiple names appearing with different pics, or see links to other sites with reviews, etc, or even other backpage ads links with different girls with the same number.
7) Finally, I'll go to tinyeye and put the pics in to see if they have been used before.
8) I usually opt for outcall, as I live in a highrise downtown with a doorman, and I have no qualms about sending the girls away if I'm not pleased. I used to do incalls but I feel as if there is a bit more risk as it could be an undercover sting (unlikely but it happens) or worse a robbery, (very unlikely but who knows it has happened. Also when often would go to incalls the girl would open the door and it would be very dark, I couldn't see her body etc then I walk in and I feel uncomfortable to turn them down once I'm in the room, or they are marginally ok even though nowhere near as hot as the picture and my little head takes over and I throw down anyhow.
Also, I'd like to outline the advantages and disadvantages to incall / outcall, obviously some of you may not have a choice in the matter, (married, live in girlfriend, etc) but in terms of danger this is how I see it.
Anyhow, back to tonights unfortunate experience. So I was of course browsing the backpage ads which you can easily fall pray to as most of these pics, although fake, are simply addicting to browse through as eye candy. This one in particular caught my eye.
[url]http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-will-your-mind-_-24/6583744[/url].
Of course upon first view of the pics, I assumed fake. They seemed TGTBT, and if she really looked like that she could easily charge at least 500 an hour. Anyhow I decided to call, ignoring my rules above with the "if not me it's 100% free" line and her voice was hot. Now I was riled up and went through my questions, she did a great job on selling me that in fact these pictures were of her etc and although I didn't believe her, I figured well maybe she's CLOSE to being as hot as the girl in the pics and I was intrigued. So I told her I'd come visit her hotel, she said she was in glendale heights which is a trek out from downtown chicago but I figured why not check it out. So I was about to go down there right now but googled her number and found this post below. Scary stuff, don't' know if it's true but not worth the risk. Lesson learned, always copy and paste the number on google to find out if it could be something like this.
[url]http://chicago.backpage.com/Domination/these-people-are-running-at-police-sting-in-glendale-heights-at-21w-500-and-21-w-525/6270761[/url].
Anyhow, so after that mission was aborted, I decided to call another girl's ad that I had been salivating on for awhile.
[url]http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/s-u-p-e-r-h-o-t-t/6345559[/url]
I called her before on her earlier ad, and I remember she was firm about her 300 an hour price. I went through my usual phone screening process and she insisted the pics were of her of course, and she also had a sweet voice. (I'm a sucker for sexy voices! I did the google search, nothing. I did the tinyeye for all 4 of her images. Nothing. No info on other review sides by copying and pasting her number in the search field. So I thought hmm, maybe, just maybe it could be her! She only does outcalls so I was like, lets give this a try. I told her specifically that if it wasnt her I was going to turn her away and she told me not to worry that it was indeed her and she would prove it to me, sounded very confident and unfazed at that claim. <br She said she would do 400.00 for 2 whole hours, and that she would stay the entire 2 no matter what. So I figured, ok well if it's her in the pics than that's a deal, considering she's usually 300 an hour.
Anyhow she said she could meet now asap but I told her to arrive at 145am, assuming she was in the city nearby as she said. (I was talking to her at around 1am)
I gave her my address and long story short, at 2am I called her again over 5 times to see if she was lost or running late. She didn't bother to pick up. She finally arrives at 315am and I'm pretty much fallen asleep figured she wouldn't show up. (obviously this happens as many providers find someone else to do an outcall for if they are closer, etc) My doorman calls up to my condo telling me alexa is here and so I say, send her up! She comes of the elevator and I wave her over to my door, almost immediately I could tell she was not the girl in the pics. However she was still very young and girl next door cute. I welcomed her into my place and we sat down and talked for a bit. She apologized for being over 1.5 hours late but she said she came all the way from Elgin!
Anyhow after the formalities she asked if I had the donation, and so before I handed it over I clarified again, that the 400.00 was for 2 whole hours, multiple shots on goal, GFE. I would never pay that amount for a non-GFE experience, there are too many other providers that do GFE. Without DFK, and mutlple shots it's just not worth it to me imo especially if you sometimes cum early before it's time as I frequently do. She then changes her story and says, well it's up to 2 hours. Then I'm like, WTF that not what we talked about on the phone. I explained to her that it's not worth it for me to pay 4 bills for a one shot deal, when that first shot would probably arrive in under 20 minutes tops. She then said well it "could be up to 2 hours but that depends, etc" which I have heard that before, once you pop they are out the door with your cash.
We went back and forth on this debate as she said she usually charges 300 an hour for one pop, so that if I played my cards right and didn't prematurally pop off, that I could have her for the 2 hours agreed time. At this point I had lost interest. She was a solid 7-8 on the escort scale. Very cute and thin brunette with some curves, no older than 23 at most. But for that amout of money it wouldn't be worth it. If she gave me a quicky for 150 I may have obliged, but I was disspointed with the entire ordeal and just wanted her to leave. However, because I felt bad about her having to drive all the way from elgin, I offered to give her 50 bucks for gas. She said she had a cancellation fee of 100. I told her sorry, can't do that and asked her since she was downtown if she had any other appointments to go to. She said not currently but maybe she could get one. I told her again I'd give her 50 because she seemed like a sweet girl but wasn't going to give her any more because she lied repeatedly about the pics being real, and also the time as she said she would stay the entire 2 hours when really it was up to 2 hours. She kept repeating herself saying, I didn't drive all the way from elgin to get 50 bucks. Which then I replied, well first of all, you're 1 hour and 45 minutes late. If you would have called me to politely tell me that you were running late which you didn't, (I also called her many times at 2am to see what was going on but she didn't pick up) I may have been more understanding. Not to mention the up to 2 hours thing, I politely explained to her it wasnt worth it for me to have a session for up to 2 hours when in reality I'd only last 20 min, thats why I specficially asked her if she would stay the entire 2 hours. I told her for 300 I knew many escorts that would not only stay the entire hour, but would do dfk, BBBJ, msog, etc. Anyhow I again said sorry to waste her time but she also wasted mine. Then I went to go get the 50 bucks and when I handed it to her, she started arguing again, saying, I didn't come from elgin to get 50 bucks, etc. I simply looked her dead in the eye and said, sorry that's all your getting, and I think I'm being fair. I didn't know you were coming from elgin and you're not coming through with what we discussed on the phone. Then she said, what did the pics look like, was she a blonde? A brunette like me? Which I found funny because this poor girl didn't even know what pics were posted of her!
Anyhow long story short she realized I wasnt going to budge, and she finally walked out. Overall this entire argument wasnt combative or uncomfortable, she was pretty polite overall didn't get ghetto on me or raise her voice. But this experience and countless others have made me come to the conclusion that simply put, 80% of these backpage ads are using fake pics. I've had a few experiences when it was actually them, (4 out of 23 different girls through outcall so far) but for the most part, plan ahead, screen them over the phone so you at least let them know you will be denying them if you don't like what you see when they show up. As for this girl above, I did feel bad about her driving all the way down since she was so young and seemed like a very sweet person, but in the end I'm not paying 100 for someone that didn't deliver what they promised, and was almost 2 hours late without notifying me, regardless of the pics being fake.
Anyhow, I realize this was a loooong rant but I just wanted to share my experience and give some newbies some pointers, hope I save some of you out there some time and $, that is what this site is all about in the end![/QUOTE]
