Ripoff Reports

I have done this before but I do so knowing that I may never see the promised services. However, I have found a way to recoup some of the loss. I offer to pay 50% of what they would normally receive from me until the debt is paid off. This has worked well for me in the past as they still get something for their time on each visit and I don't lose a provider that I have grown fond of.

-BigBird69.

[QUOTE=FortyPlus; 1874526]This is a Remmy rant. I was a long term client until I made the age old mistake,

I have seen her many times and everything went well until she needed help. Yes, I did the stupid thing we men sometimes do when we grow fond of one of these girls. I helped her out in exchange for promises of future services.

At this point in time, she "owes" me two sessions. Since accumulating the obligation, she has, of course come up with an endless stream of reasons why she can't see me (these are commonly known as bald faced lies) and that is in the extremely rare case when she responds to my texts at all.

The take away here is to never give money to one of these girls no matter how fond you are of them or how dire their apparent need. It may well be the last time you see them. I admit to being totally confused by this common provider behavior. They will piss away hundreds and perhaps thousands of dollars in future business with a guy, a guy who has been a long term regular, rather than spend that hour or two to repay a debt. They truly can't see the forest for the trees, It must be hell to be that insecure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FortyPlus; 1874526]This is a Remmy rant. I was a long term client until I made the age old mistake,

I have seen her many times and everything went well until she needed help. Yes, I did the stupid thing we men sometimes do when we grow fond of one of these girls. I helped her out in exchange for promises of future services.

At this point in time, she "owes" me two sessions. Since accumulating the obligation, she has, of course come up with an endless stream of reasons why she can't see me (these are commonly known as bald faced lies) and that is in the extremely rare case when she responds to my texts at all.

The take away here is to never give money to one of these girls no matter how fond you are of them or how dire their apparent need. It may well be the last time you see them. I admit to being totally confused by this common provider behavior. They will piss away hundreds and perhaps thousands of dollars in future business with a guy, a guy who has been a long term regular, rather than spend that hour or two to repay a debt. They truly can't see the forest for the trees, It must be hell to be that insecure.[/QUOTE]That's crazy I had a provider that I've been using call my phone today and asked if I wanted to see her she needed money for her daughter, first I sternly informed her never to call my phone unsolicited but I did give her. 20 now as I just stated I GAVE HER. 20 I told her I'm giving you this because I like you as a person don't ever call my phone again unless I tell you you can, don't ask me to loan or give you any money nor offer your services to me unless I call you, I said you don't owe me anything no service for free or half price nothing your debt to me is free once this money leaves my hand but no more hitting me up for cash. I told her all this while I was holding Mr. Jackson firmly between my thumb and index finger. Look the point I'm trying to make is this, don't ever lend or give more than you can afford to lose, I don't think it's wrong to help a provider out if you feel you have a friendship connection but you have to know the nature of the beast and understand if they see weakness they will take full advantage and there is no weakness here. I gave this girl the money because today. 20 isn't going to make or break me I don't want it back and. 20 is a good investment to see where she's coming from because if she's for the wrong thing she will ask me for money again then I can let her have it and never see her again, you can tell by my post and everybody else's post that there are a ton of girls willing to accept my or your money for p4p. Don't worry about the lost cash just remember any time in your life you learned something it generally cost you money. Be safe Guys I'm out.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;1889072]That's crazy I had a provider that I've been using call my phone today and asked if I wanted to see her she needed money for her daughter, first I sternly informed her never to call my phone unsolicited but I did give her. 20 now as I just stated I GAVE HER. 20 I told her I'm giving you this because I like you as a person don't ever call my phone again unless I tell you you can, don't ask me to loan or give you any money nor offer your services to me unless I call you, I said you don't owe me anything no service for free or half price nothing your debt to me is free once this money leaves my hand but no more hitting me up for cash. I told her all this while I was holding Mr. Jackson firmly between my thumb and index finger. Look the point I'm trying to make is this, don't ever lend or give more than you can afford to lose, I don't think it's wrong to help a provider out if you feel you have a friendship connection but you have to know the nature of the beast and understand if they see weakness they will take full advantage and there is no weakness here. I gave this girl the money because today. 20 isn't going to make or break me I don't want it back and. 20 is a good investment to see where she's coming from because if she's for the wrong thing she will ask me for money again then I can let her have it and never see her again, you can tell by my post and everybody else's post that there are a ton of girls willing to accept my or your money for p4p. Don't worry about the lost cash just remember any time in your life you learned something it generally cost you money. Be safe Guys I'm out.[/QUOTE]Same thing twice with two different providers, you front the money for services later and they never return texts or calls, finally only one provider did come through but not after a few weeks. I agree, if they would think it out, they would be farther ahead giving the service and not all the excuses. That is why the one lost my business after a year and the second one came close to loosing out also. As one said, that is what happens getting too close to a provider and was told by an old senior, think with your large head and not the small one.

I know I won't recoup the Money I give her, I get that. When things are slow for her she asks me for Money to buy things for her kids. How do I know? I drive her to the Grocery Store. She's such a Sweetheart it's hard for me to tell her no. I know I'm a Sucker. But She's too Adorable.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;1889072]That's crazy I had a provider that I've been using call my phone today and asked if I wanted to see her she needed money for her daughter, first I sternly informed her never to call my phone unsolicited but I did give her. 20 now as I just stated I GAVE HER. 20 I told her I'm giving you this because I like you as a person don't ever call my phone again unless I tell you you can, don't ask me to loan or give you any money nor offer your services to me unless I call you, I said you don't owe me anything no service for free or half price nothing your debt to me is free once this money leaves my hand but no more hitting me up for cash. I told her all this while I was holding Mr. Jackson firmly between my thumb and index finger. Look the point I'm trying to make is this, don't ever lend or give more than you can afford to lose, I don't think it's wrong to help a provider out if you feel you have a friendship connection but you have to know the nature of the beast and understand if they see weakness they will take full advantage and there is no weakness here. I gave this girl the money because today. 20 isn't going to make or break me I don't want it back and. 20 is a good investment to see where she's coming from because if she's for the wrong thing she will ask me for money again then I can let her have it and never see her again, you can tell by my post and everybody else's post that there are a ton of girls willing to accept my or your money for p4p. Don't worry about the lost cash just remember any time in your life you learned something it generally cost you money. Be safe Guys I'm out.[/QUOTE]As a provider myself and as a human being, I can understand ure. You can never truley know someone. It was great if you and very much a gentlemen to do this for this girl. But being a provider, I can't understand why someone wouldn't want to give the appt owed and stay on good terms and still have your client and that extra that will keep coming instead of losing a client and getting a bad review and losing clients that would have come. So the provider is losing a lot more than what she had gotten. But everyone is different and I can understand a hobbyists point if view as to not front money unless you can afford to lose it. As sad as it is, some people just take advantage of the weak ones and a provider will be the one to lose big in the long run. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=FortyPlus; 1874526]This is a Remmy rant. I was a long term client until I made the age old mistake,

I have seen her many times and everything went well until she needed help. Yes, I did the stupid thing we men sometimes do when we grow fond of one of these girls. I helped her out in exchange for promises of future services.

At this point in time, she "owes" me two sessions. Since accumulating the obligation, she has, of course come up with an endless stream of reasons why she can't see me (these are commonly known as bald faced lies) and that is in the extremely rare case when she responds to my texts at all.

The take away here is to never give money to one of these girls no matter how fond you are of them or how dire their apparent need. It may well be the last time you see them. I admit to being totally confused by this common provider behavior. They will piss away hundreds and perhaps thousands of dollars in future business with a guy, a guy who has been a long term regular, rather than spend that hour or two to repay a debt. They truly can't see the forest for the trees, It must be hell to be that insecure.[/QUOTE]Remmy has been awesome for me, I'm skeptical as if to this is the full story or not. I don't think I'd ever loan anyone cash, provider or not, it usually leads to problems. I hope you get this resolved, but she's a really good provider in my opinion.

This way both win and let's face it, if you have had good times in the past it works for awhile, then Tim to move on.

It's like my renters, they start out good then over time excuses build up, that is until I let them no face to face their excuse bank has blown up.

It's the beauty of doing this, even the utr ones fit this as well.

MM.

[QUOTE=BigBird69; 1889035]I have done this before but I do so knowing that I may never see the promised services. However, I have found a way to recoup some of the loss. I offer to pay 50% of what they would normally receive from me until the debt is paid off. This has worked well for me in the past as they still get something for their time on each visit and I don't lose a provider that I have grown fond of.

-BigBird69.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mmslim84; 1889730]This way both win and let's face it, if you have had good times in the past it works for awhile, then Tim to move on.

It's like my renters, they start out good then over time excuses build up, that is until I let them no face to face their excuse bank has blown up.

It's the beauty of doing this, even the utr ones fit this as well.

MM.[/QUOTE]It might be a way for everyone to win.

My better advice is simply never to lend money to a provider. In fact, by the time they feel "comfortable" enough ask you, it's probably time to move on to someone else to avoid getting further involved. This is a hard lesson, and one well earned. However sweet or deserving they may seem, however sad their story is, you are almost certainly being hustled. And the money will most likely be used to buy drugs. So you're not doing anyone any good. By the time they've asked, and you've turned them down, that may put a damper on the relationship. At that point, it's time to see one of the dozens of other sweet young things who may well take you down the same path.

I have seen Remy, and she's a sweet and genuinely likeable girl. None of that changes the outlook expressed above.

[QUOTE=Bucks97; 1889757]It might be a way for everyone to win.

My better advice is simply never to lend money to a provider. In fact, by the time they feel "comfortable" enough ask you, it's probably time to move on to someone else to avoid getting further involved. This is a hard lesson, and one well earned. However sweet or deserving they may seem, however sad their story is, you are almost certainly being hustled. And the money will most likely be used to buy drugs. So you're not doing anyone any good. By the time they've asked, and you've turned them down, that may put a damper on the relationship. At that point, it's time to see one of the dozens of other sweet young things who may well take you down the same path.

I have seen Remy, and she's a sweet and genuinely likeable girl. None of that changes the outlook expressed above.[/QUOTE]If you commit an act of generosity, consider it a tip or a gift, not advance payment for future services or a loan. If you consider it the latter, you are setting yourself up for disappointment and disillusionment. It will also lead to the end of your customer / client relationship-most likely in a very short period of time.

That's a good point but I also look at it as a way to vet a provider. I will never "loan" any amount that will hurt me. Based on how that provider acts afterwards I know to what level I can trust her.

I traded a phone with one of the providers on this site for two sessions. She tried to get me to come back for the next session for over a month but my schedule never worked out (all on my part). She moved out of my area but even afterwards, offered to take me on for the other session. I declined since I had put her off for far too long but to me, that shows character that she offered. She is top notch and I would never hesitate to loan her money because I know that she would make good. I won't mention her name but I have a very high level of respect for her. She was my ATF when she was in my area.

-BigBird69.

[QUOTE=Tuffy12;1889865]If you commit an act of generosity, consider it a tip or a gift, not advance payment for future services or a loan. If you consider it the latter, you are setting yourself up for disappointment and disillusionment. It will also lead to the end of your customer / client relationship-most likely in a very short period of time.[/QUOTE]

Melea who travels from Fairborn, Cinci and KY stuck me up in Fairborn earlier this summer. Two black teens dressed in red came in the apt up stairs robbed me. I saw that a few had a problem with 2 females in hotels in FB doing the same. The blonde is Melea aka Jade, aka Megans friend. She was friends with Mackenzie until she found out she was doing the same at the Fairborn inns.

[url]http://eloquentevenings.escortfiles.com/models/show/17780[/url]

Google her name for more pics, she changes her name every month, and moves.

Thats her page.

To show mongers I'm legit. Stacey is real, her friends are, Rayne, Niki. Angel Nicole, Savana, Makenzie, and Misty

You're referencing Melea of Eloquent Evenings. Lots of people here have used EE (myself included) , and EE's reviews are overwhelmingly positive. Steve does a great job and is easy to work with.

You seem to have created a new screen name solely for the purpose of attacking a particular girl, citing undocumented events in another city, which are conveniently generic, and conveniently can be neither proven nor disproven.

I'm not saying you are lying; but you must bear the burden of proof here. Lots of guys have seen Melea and the other EE girls and given glowing reviews. What hard evidence, other than your undocumented tale, do you have to contradict those reviews?

Who are you? Why aren't you posting this under your usual name? Why create a deliberately anonymous name if your story is legit? (When others report scams, they use their usual screen names.)

[QUOTE=MeleaScam; 1893840]Melea who travels from Fairborn, Cinci and KY stuck me up in Fairborn earlier this summer. Two black teens dressed in red came in the apt up stairs robbed me. I saw that a few had a problem with 2 females in hotels in FB doing the same. The blonde is Melea aka Jade, aka Megans friend. She was friends with Mackenzie until she found out she was doing the same at the Fairborn inns.

[url]http://eloquentevenings.escortfiles.com/models/show/17780[/url]

Google her name for more pics, she changes her name every month, and moves.

Thats her page.

To show mongers I'm legit. Stacey is real, her friends are, Rayne, Niki. Angel Nicole, Savana, Makenzie, and Misty[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Todd Cincy; 1894024]You're referencing Melea of Eloquent Evenings. Lots of people here have used EE (myself included) , and EE's reviews are overwhelmingly positive. Steve does a great job and is easy to work with.

You seem to have created a new screen name solely for the purpose of attacking a particular girl, citing undocumented events in another city, which are conveniently generic, and conveniently can be neither proven nor disproven.

I'm not saying you are lying; but you must bear the burden of proof here. Lots of guys have seen Melea and the other EE girls and given glowing reviews. What hard evidence, other than your undocumented tale, do you have to contradict those reviews?

Who are you? Why aren't you posting this under your usual name? Why create a deliberately anonymous name if your story is legit? (When others report scams, they use their usual screen names.) [/QUOTE]I reported this meleascam douchebag to A2. Expect these posts to be deleted.

[QUOTE=MeleaScam; 1893840]Melea who travels from Fairborn, Cinci and KY stuck me up in Fairborn earlier this summer. Two black teens dressed in red came in the apt up stairs robbed me. I saw that a few had a problem with 2 females in hotels in FB doing the same. The blonde is Melea aka Jade, aka Megans friend. She was friends with Mackenzie until she found out she was doing the same at the Fairborn inns.

[url]http://eloquentevenings.escortfiles.com/models/show/17780[/url]

Google her name for more pics, she changes her name every month, and moves.

Thats her page.

To show mongers I'm legit. Stacey is real, her friends are, Rayne, Niki. Angel Nicole, Savana, Makenzie, and Misty[/QUOTE]To I love Melea so please stop fucking my gf. I have never seen this offering of EE but from her ads, she is 7 days a week incall in Northern Kentucky. BTW, if you had paid attention to the link you put up, melea has long black hair. Not blonde. Smh

[QUOTE=Tuffy12;1889865]If you commit an act of generosity, consider it a tip or a gift, not advance payment for future services or a loan. If you consider it the latter, you are setting yourself up for disappointment and disillusionment. It will also lead to the end of your customer / client relationship-most likely in a very short period of time.[/QUOTE]I was actually dumb enough to put money in a young SW's commissary account while she was in jail. Thinking I would get a great free booty call when she got out. No such luck in fact she hasn't called me since. I'm only looking forward to when she's in jail again and calls me I can hit 0 and block all her calls. Sometimes I wonder what's wrong with these people.