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Hey guys,
I've been roaming these forums for almost a year now and I just want to thank everyone for their reports. Reading reports here convinced me to visit the COI from san diego on handful of occasions. Anyways I felt like I should give back to this community, besides it's been a little quiet on this thread lately.
I've been to HT 3 times. Typically I like to do a vip with a different girl with each visit. These are my findings from my visits.
Nadia- tall, blonde, bolt ons, pretty face. She does a great vip but is notorious on the upsell. She quoted $$ for the vip but after curtains went up she upsold her menu on top of her quote. Like a lot of guys say on here "always pay later"
Kitty- Asian, bolt ons, alright face. Kitty was really fun, I vip'ed with her once. She didn't offer the whole menu with me. But she was a lot of fun once the curtains went up. Damage was $$.
Bunny-tiny blonde, natural b's, lots of piercings(nipples and tongue)- She was a lot of fun! offered everything for $$.2
It's been about 4 months since I last visited HT. But I think I might pay a visit on labor day or the day after. Also I'm curious if anyone has got some intel on Alyssa? I've seen her around and she quotes top dollar. I've always told her no thanks rather than negotiate (A skill I want to improve on) I think I would give her a whirl if I could convince her to come down a bit on her prices.
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[QUOTE=Laf85]Hey guys,
I've been roaming these forums for almost a year now and I just want to thank everyone for their reports. Reading reports here convinced me to visit the COI from san diego on handful of occasions. Anyways I felt like I should give back to this community, besides it's been a little quiet on this thread lately.
I've been to HT 3 times. Typically I like to do a vip with a different girl with each visit. These are my findings from my visits.
Nadia- tall, blonde, bolt ons, pretty face. She does a great vip but is notorious on the upsell. She quoted $$ for the vip but after curtains went up she upsold her menu on top of her quote. Like a lot of guys say on here "always pay later"
Kitty- Asian, bolt ons, alright face. Kitty was really fun, I vip'ed with her once. She didn't offer the whole menu with me. But she was a lot of fun once the curtains went up. Damage was $$.
Bunny-tiny blonde, natural b's, lots of piercings(nipples and tongue)- She was a lot of fun! offered everything for $$.2
It's been about 4 months since I last visited HT. But I think I might pay a visit on labor day or the day after. Also I'm curious if anyone has got some intel on Alyssa? I've seen her around and she quotes top dollar. I've always told her no thanks rather than negotiate (A skill I want to improve on) I think I would give her a whirl if I could convince her to come down a bit on her prices.[/QUOTE]
I quit going to HT long ago and can't really get with the VIP program there for the time, environment and cost of it. But I do know all these girls. Alyssa I believe is actually distantly related to Nadia and has been schooled by the great veteran on keeping prices high but also providing good service including some that others don't offer. It's also been reported that Alyssa just got bolt-ons which is a damn shame as she was absolutely great looking top to bottom the way she was.
You are halfway through your negotiation when you say "no" - just add to it "I can't do it at that price". Nadia as you experienced, is a notorious money shark, but I've had incredible VIPs with her in the past paying no more than .2 or .3 above the minimum $.2. She probably would not take that little on a busy shift, but more often than not the place is dead and she's ALWAYS there and she never stops looking for business. She adjusts for the business climate - very smart that way and Alyssa learns everything that Nadia already knows.
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HT or Vu
I go to DJV on COI if I'm in that area. I don't like HT anymore either. DJV works just fine and they have the meter so you aren't cheated on the time. I like that. I also like some of the VIP areas much better. If you find a keeper in there, chances are you can find them again.
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[QUOTE=The Camel]I quit going to HT long ago and can't really get with the VIP program there for the time, environment and cost of it. But I do know all these girls. Alyssa I believe is actually distantly related to Nadia and has been schooled by the great veteran on keeping prices high but also providing good service including some that others don't offer. It's also been reported that Alyssa just got bolt-ons which is a damn shame as she was absolutely great looking top to bottom the way she was.
You are halfway through your negotiation when you say "no" - just add to it "I can't do it at that price". Nadia as you experienced, is a notorious money shark, but I've had incredible VIPs with her in the past paying no more than .2 or .3 above the minimum $.2. She probably would not take that little on a busy shift, but more often than not the place is dead and she's ALWAYS there and she never stops looking for business. She adjusts for the business climate - very smart that way and Alyssa learns everything that Nadia already knows.[/QUOTE]Yes Alyssa got bolt ons now. BOO! They seemed to big for her frame but they are new so prolly haven't settled. She was perfect before... May never get dance with her again. Saw her two fridays ago night shift round midnight. Her CBJ were $$ and $$$ for the FS upsell.
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Angelita at Deja Vu
I got a couple of dances in the topless area recently from a dancer named Angelita. I thought she was pretty hot and she did a good job of handling my equipment but only while still covered. I asked what else we could do in the topless area and she said that was too much out in the open for her and suggested VIP. I'm thinking about that. Has anyone had a VIP experience with her? My interest, as another Deja Vu dancer stated it, is in the whole enchilada.
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Hawaii vs Vu
For comparison purposes:
VIP at Hawaii Theatre: 1.2 for around 10 minutes
VIP room at DVI: 1.5 for 30 minutes. (1.0 on Thursdays)
Hawaii has marginally hotter chicks but the Vu has it's share of cuties no doubt. Mileage is generally higher at Hawaii but at what cost? 3. or more for FS is nuts IMHO.
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[QUOTE=Laf85]Hey guys,
I've been roaming these forums for almost a year now and I just want to thank everyone for their reports. Reading reports here convinced me to visit the COI from san diego on handful of occasions. Anyways I felt like I should give back to this community, besides it's been a little quiet on this thread lately.
I've been to HT 3 times. Typically I like to do a vip with a different girl with each visit. These are my findings from my visits.
Nadia- tall, blonde, bolt ons, pretty face. She does a great vip but is notorious on the upsell. She quoted $$ for the vip but after curtains went up she upsold her menu on top of her quote. Like a lot of guys say on here "always pay later"
Kitty- Asian, bolt ons, alright face. Kitty was really fun, I vip'ed with her once. She didn't offer the whole menu with me. But she was a lot of fun once the curtains went up. Damage was $$.
Bunny-tiny blonde, natural b's, lots of piercings(nipples and tongue)- She was a lot of fun! offered everything for $$.2
It's been about 4 months since I last visited HT. But I think I might pay a visit on labor day or the day after. Also I'm curious if anyone has got some intel on Alyssa? I've seen her around and she quotes top dollar. I've always told her no thanks rather than negotiate (A skill I want to improve on) I think I would give her a whirl if I could convince her to come down a bit on her prices.[/QUOTE]
Great report. What I don't get is why you would travel to COI from San Diego when there is such a reasonable playground in TJ? I'm in LA now for work, but plan to run to TJ next weekend for some reasonable P4P. Just cannot justify the high prices around here myself.
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[QUOTE=Flyby Nightowl]Great report. What I don't get is why you would travel to COI from San Diego when there is such a reasonable playground in TJ? I'm in LA now for work, but plan to run to TJ next weekend for some reasonable P4P. Just cannot justify the high prices around here myself.[/QUOTE]
I was going to make the same point, but dudes are sick of me pimping TJ. But it isn't just cost. Literally hundreds of chicas to choose from, and you get your bargain P4P in a private hotel room with a double bed, bathroom and shower instead of 8 minutes in a filthy dark closet. Pay a little more in TJ and take it to an hour. Pay a little more and play all night like honeymooners....and you still will not have hit the price point of some of the HT Divas for your 8 minutes of glory.
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Wow!
[QUOTE=The Camel]I was going to make the same point, but dudes are sick of me pimping TJ. But it isn't just cost. Literally hundreds of chicas to choose from, and you get your bargain P4P in a private hotel room with a double bed, bathroom and shower instead of 8 minutes in a filthy dark closet. Pay a little more in TJ and take it to an hour. Pay a little more and play all night like honeymooners....and you still will not have hit the price point of some of the HT Divas for your 8 minutes of glory.[/QUOTE]
Seriously? Haven't been to TJ in almost a decade. Maybe its time to go back. If so, you MUST share where. If you don't mind of course.
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[QUOTE=Dr Midnite]Seriously? Haven't been to TJ in almost a decade. Maybe its time to go back. If so, you MUST share where. If you don't mind of course.[/QUOTE]
Doc, I'm guessing if you were there 10 years ago yet find my post surprising, that your exploration was limited to the Avenida Revolucion strip of nightclubs and stripclubs which was where tourists to TJ have traditionally gone. Those clubs had some seedy glory and some beautiful chicas, but the level of hustle and scam was generally so high that few visitors would want to return - very short sighted operators (and there was also a significant element of "gender confusion" in some of those bars). That scene got what it deserved and today is virtually shuttered shut. Bars that are still open are ghost towns.
The real monger action is in an area called the "zona norte" or colloquially, "La Coahuila". There is just too much to discuss about it even on the most fundamental level to put that here. Even though it isn't a large area, their are a vast number of options, things to know, things to know to avoid. You really should spend some time on the TJ Boards (including the sister ISG board to USASG) to get some orientation. If you know a TJ veteran for sure go along with him. You can find wingmen to hook-up with on the TJ sites which could enhance the learning curve if they have experience.
Most newbies will park on the SD side of the border, walk across, jump in a TJ taxi and ask to be taken directly to one of two clubs, Adelita Bar or Hong Kong Club - be sure not to let the taxistas try to talk you into going to other places where they get a commission from the manager and they'll tell absurd lies to get you to change your mind....DON'T! AB was the dominant hooker bar for drawing gringos until a couple of years ago. It is still an essential stop for newbies. After remodeling, it now resembles a U.S. stripclub. It is usually well stocked with superhot chicas who are not the "girl next store" variety that I favor personally - more like L.A. strippers decked out in man made body parts. They are there for one reason - to take you to an attached hotel for basic 30 minutes for $60 (going rate for hotties...less for the more average girls of which there are many). Hotel is now $15 short term and is clean and comfortable.
Hong Kong is THE place right now - one of the most outrageous adult clubs in all the world, a veritable 8 ring erotic circus. High tech, multi-level club that generally resembles the most contemporary Vegas clubs. Chicas everywhere dancing on multiple stages, lounging naked in jacuzzis, dancing on the bars, on the catwalks projecting over the main floor, live sex shows and lesbian shows, lap dance booths, VIP booths and an attached hotel. Some of the girls here make so much money without leaving the club that they may try to jack-up their hotel rate and some may not go to the hotel period.
And of course the streets are lined with Streetgirls who are generally young and adorable. Their standard price is $20 short term which is 15-20 minutes and they take you to their hotels which are extremely cheap - just a few bucks. They are very cute and over time you can break them down if you are a regular or stop to talk to them on the street, but they default to the lowest standard of service. It's fine for pure sportfucking, but if you want any kind of quality I strongly recommending making an enhanced offer for longer time ($40-60/hour usually gets it done) that often removes them from their "get 'em in, get 'em off, get 'em out" frame of mind. But still you're looking at a cost equal to a single lap dance for 15-20 minutes of full service. If you pay in pesos the cost is reduced further, but that's just another of many topics you need to get on top of.
Countless other bars operate as dance halls (the model for the L.A. Hostess Clubs). More like pick-up bars where you drink and dance with the chicas and most go to an attached hotel (better service than AB and HK) and many want to be your girlfriend! :-) These chicas are low volume compared to the gringo oriented bars. Not speaking conversational spanish makes it somewhat difficult to operate in these bars which are frequented mostly by locals.
There is a burgeoning escort scene in TJ. You can get yourself a top tier room in a luxury hotel and never go to La Coahuila if you don't want to, and just place an order and a beautiful young chica will arrive at your door. Quality and service are generally high, and price is reasonable all things considered....usually $100/hour with one prominent agency charging $150. There are discounts for additional time.
And no, despite the frequent comments that follow posts like this from those who are in the dark, you will not be a casualty of the drug war in Mexico, but you do need to be alert to petty crime and certainly hustles and scams as you would walking around the inner sanctums of any California city.
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Enough all ready
#1 If you want to post about TJ please do so in the TJ thread. It belongs there not under C of I.
#2 Are you guys CRAZY?????? With all the shit going on in Mexico these days, I would not cross the border if the pussy was free and clean.
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[QUOTE=LCSisme]#1 If you want to post about TJ please do so in the TJ thread. It belongs there not under C of I.[/QUOTE]
#1 You're right about posting in the correct thread. You could always send a PM instead.
[QUOTE=LCSisme]#2 Are you guys CRAZY?????? With all the shit going on in Mexico these days, I would not cross the border if the pussy was free and clean.[/QUOTE]
#2 You're dead wrong about Tijuana being dangerous though. If you were referring to Ciudad Juarez, I would totally agree. Juarez is dangerous 24/7. Tijuana, on the other hand, is the safest it's been for some time. Even police shakedowns are becoming rarer and rarer. When was the last time that you were in TJ, if ever? I go at least three times a month and I have friends that live there. Don't let Fox News Channel stop you from living your life. And btw sometimes it is free and clean.
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HT Report
Don't post here much but figure I'd contribute. Went to HT today about 7 and it was dead. By the time I left about 8:30 it had picked up. I usually sit at the rail so I can enjoy the show without being pressured to "buy the lady a drink". I also get a good sense of how the girl will be in a dance. Saw a few. Summer. Latina (?), set of bolt ons, she was alright. Thick but had a few stretch marks. Celine was a looker and very nice. I ended up getting a dance w Jasmine. She really works up on stage. She's also a real fun girl to talk to. When I inquired about VIP I was quoted four bens. Wow. Said no thanks. Do some guys really pay that for 5 min? I like HT. I go there when I go through COI. Never had much luck at the other clubs in the area.
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Jersey
[QUOTE=Chex 80]Don't post here much but figure I'd contribute. Went to HT today about 7 and it was dead. By the time I left about 8:30 it had picked up. I usually sit at the rail so I can enjoy the show without being pressured to "buy the lady a drink". I also get a good sense of how the girl will be in a dance. Saw a few. Summer. Latina (?), set of bolt ons, she was alright. Thick but had a few stretch marks. Celine was a looker and very nice. I ended up getting a dance w Jasmine. She really works up on stage. She's also a real fun girl to talk to. When I inquired about VIP I was quoted four bens. Wow. Said no thanks. Do some guys really pay that for 5 min? I like HT. I go there when I go through COI. Never had much luck at the other clubs in the area.[/QUOTE]
You should try VIP with Jersey. She was the hottest one there one night a group of us had a guys night out last week. One of my buddies got a VIP with her along with a CBJ and FS. We asked him about the total damage and he reported 180. Personally, I think he spent more but didn't want to admit it because we would have called him a sucker. But, yeah, she is kind of tall, is pretty, slim, has bolt-ons, and nice tanned skin.
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TJ Still!!!
[QUOTE=Mikeymae]#1 You're right about posting in the correct thread. You could always send a PM instead.
#2 You're dead wrong about Tijuana being dangerous though. If you were referring to Ciudad Juarez, I would totally agree. Juarez is dangerous 24/7. Tijuana, on the other hand, is the safest it's been for some time. Even police shakedowns are becoming rarer and rarer. When was the last time that you were in TJ, if ever? I go at least three times a month and I have friends that live there. Don't let Fox News Channel stop you from living your life. And btw sometimes it is free and clean.[/QUOTE]
It seams like no matter what city I'm checking out in Calif. on this site there is always someone saying "Come with me to TJ".
It seams more like SPAM then anything else.
Last time I was in TJ I was 5 years old. I didn't like it then and have no desire to go back.
I don't speak the langage and would not feel safe going there.
MY opinion only!!!!!! You are free to do what ever you want.
In no way did I mean it as a flame or put down.
Stay Safe!!!!!
LCS