Told me $$ per visit. I said Hell naw.
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Told me $$ per visit. I said Hell naw.
[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2924630]Redhead101 from SA is on BP: [URL]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/little-red-riding-looking-good/17473747[/URL] (since ads could get removed quickly, refer to the attached screenshot, phone number redacted).
Stay informed,
Milfman.[/QUOTE]Just had a dream with Red at her place. Easy setup but sketchy s. Kn apt. My dream was rather very quick. Started with BBBJ and got asked for favourite position. I opted for good old miss till finish. Lfk was experienced but no dfk. She had nice body and I would not mind to repeat if it comes down to that. She did not allow finger there but whatever. I was glad I opted for hh Instead of full HR because that would have been a waste of time.
I think it is time for some of us to post information about the ladies posting on SA.
It would give us all a heads up of what the landscape is and how to proceed.
I will start today.
I looked at the site about a month ago. It was interesting and I thouht I would see how it worked.
First you can see the girls picture and something about her profile.
These are usually not real pictures. I guess some might be, but the few I met were not the girls in the initial picture.
Then to message them or they message you, an account is necessary.
I signed up for one month to take a try.
Posted my profile, no picture. Can't have that.
I need to see how to upload a picture that is similar to me. I am still looking for that and how to upload it.
I started to get messages the first few days.
I looked the picutres over and sent out about 10 requests.
Will continue in future.
[QUOTE=Jim7767;2939373]I think it is time for some of us to post information about the ladies posting on SA.
It would give us all a heads up of what the landscape is and how to proceed.
I will start today.
I looked at the site about a month ago. It was interesting and I thouht I would see how it worked.
First you can see the girls picture and something about her profile.
These are usually not real pictures. I guess some might be, but the few I met were not the girls in the initial picture.
Then to message them or they message you, an account is necessary.
I signed up for one month to take a try.
Posted my profile, no picture. Can't have that.
I need to see how to upload a picture that is similar to me. I am still looking for that and how to upload it.
I started to get messages the first few days.
I looked the picutres over and sent out about 10 requests.
Will continue in future.[/QUOTE]I have a Public photo that is close to my features. I then have two Private photos that are mine and will show to the Ladies if they ask.
I have had about 10 Meet and Greets over the years and only one of them used fake photos.
It does look like SA has been infiltrated with UTR hookers and Escorts over the past year.
[QUOTE=Jim7767;2939373]I think it is time for some of us to post information about the ladies posting on SA.
It would give us all a heads up of what the landscape is and how to proceed.
I will start today.
I looked at the site about a month ago. It was interesting and I thouht I would see how it worked.
First you can see the girls picture and something about her profile.
These are usually not real pictures. I guess some might be, but the few I met were not the girls in the initial picture.
Then to message them or they message you, an account is necessary.
I signed up for one month to take a try.
Posted my profile, no picture. Can't have that.
I need to see how to upload a picture that is similar to me. I am still looking for that and how to upload it.
I started to get messages the first few days.
I looked the picutres over and sent out about 10 requests.
Will continue in future.[/QUOTE]I have to ask you though Jim what is it that you think the sa thread is for? It's written in almost exclusively by folks who frequent the sa site and partake of the sa ladies. They report on their experiences with the ladies as well as the process and make recommendations to others who read the forum here. There are many guys on here who many months of experience with the site and dealing with the ladies on the site. I certainly appreciate your input but just wanted you to know, you don't have to reinvent the wheel here. I think there is probably more information for us all to take from the site than any one of us could ever leave. Look forward to hearing more from you.
"We are looking for sex, plain and simple. Whatever that is to you, or any of you, is in your ball park. This needs to be discussed, no matter how difficult and uncomfortable it can be sometimes. ". "Our problem is we like variety"
I have not played the SA / SB game yet but will soon.
My thoughts:
Very true. Variety is more important for me.
But I guess that's what I struggle with when it comes to SB's.
Gifts, dates, time spent hearing their problems. From my perspective it's just a quasi relationship type girlfriend with an allowance.
Is it affordable to keep 3 SB's a float to maintain variety? If your rich I guess.
I also can't help but doing the math on the allowance. Say it's 500 a month, would most girls be okay with me wanting 10 rolls in the hay a month or twice per week?
Don't get me wrong, I do see the many pros, like low volume or monogamy with SBs.
For me, now at least, I find it more bang for my buck with courtesans, and I get way more variety than just three or more.
Rrayr.
A fine line exists between the whole SB versus escort scene. For the most part, I'm not as active in the escort scene in favor of the SB route. Mostly because I find that escorts take the no strings attached to the extreme such that the encounters become predictable and mundane with even the most reliable providers (the variety theme creeping in), MSOG policy differences, and clock watching. Keep in mind that some of the women on SA are the pay-for-play types (non-clock watching though) and some want arrangements with somewhat of a connection. I stay away from escorts masquerading as SBs since their mentality is more tilted toward the true escorting side (session based strictly on time) instead of the SB side. I've been a member of SA for over about 4 years and active for the last 2 years.
Getting the conversation started and keeping it going was difficult in the beginning, but it's much easier now: establish contact on SA (or wherever), take the conversation offline, schedule a meet and greet in a public place if it's warranted, discuss expectations in candid terms, and take it from there. I try to give the ones that have a high potential some confidence that we can build some trust and give her something for the meeting whether it be compensating her for gas, helping with a cell phone bill, provide an interesting experience (for example , some time on a lake, a helicopter ride, going to a shooting range), or providing some other form of sugar. I don't expect anything in return for that small token, but most are appreciative of the gesture and quickly try to set up a more intimate setting for the next encounter. It's still peculiar to me that SBs view themselves in a totally different category as escorts, for them. They claim to believe that they are being compensated for their time and the intimacy is free. Especially considering that there is a 0% chance that I'll see them again if they don't perform part of the functions of an escort, whatever helps them deal with it is fine with me.
As mentioned by a few others, it is critical that you discuss the amount of time that you will spend, the location (a room may be needed), the allowance amount, the level of discretion, gifts, etc. I've been used to long-term traditional relationships, so I wanted a situation without the traditional strings attached and more than just a physical connection. Having a SB on an allowance and supplementing her with those looking for pay-for-play (on a session basis, hours are irrelevant) has worked nicely. The SB scene has offered that and variety with great success and the allowance payments provide a constant reminder concerning the type of the relationship that it really is. I haven't given up on the escort scene, but exploring the SB scene is providing that level of adventure and most bang for the buck without the perceived risk factor (for now at least, without wondering if some gov agency may be on the other end of the line).
Stay safe,
Milfman.
This is helpful. To what extent do you care to be discreet about sharing your personal details with the POTs. Your real name, where you work, where you live, SO, etc. What has been your experience and learnings on this? Thanks.
[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2941606]A fine line exists between the whole SB versus escort scene. For the most part, I'm not as active in the escort scene in favor of the SB route. Mostly because I find that escorts take the no strings attached to the extreme such that the encounters become predictable and mundane with even the most reliable providers (the variety theme creeping in), MSOG policy differences, and clock watching. Keep in mind that some of the women on SA are the pay-for-play types (non-clock watching though) and some want arrangements with somewhat of a connection. I stay away from escorts masquerading as SBs since their mentality is more tilted toward the true escorting side (session based strictly on time) instead of the SB side. I've been a member of SA for over about 4 years and active for the last 2 years.
Getting the conversation started and keeping it going was difficult in the beginning, but it's much easier now: establish contact on SA (or wherever), take the conversation offline, schedule a meet and greet in a public place if it's warranted, discuss expectations in candid terms, and take it from there. I try to give the ones that have a high potential some confidence that we can build some trust and give her something for the meeting whether it be compensating her for gas, helping with a cell phone bill, provide an interesting experience (for example , some time on a lake, a helicopter ride, going to a shooting range), or providing some other form of sugar. I don't expect anything in return for that small token, but most are appreciative of the gesture and quickly try to set up a more intimate setting for the next encounter. It's still peculiar to me that SBs view themselves in a totally different category as escorts, for them. They claim to believe that they are being compensated for their time and the intimacy is free. Especially considering that there is a 0% chance that I'll see them again if they don't perform part of the functions of an escort, whatever helps them deal with it is fine with me.
As mentioned by a few others, it is critical that you discuss the amount of time that you will spend, the location (a room may be needed), the allowance amount, the level of discretion, gifts, etc. I've been used to long-term traditional relationships, so I wanted a situation without the traditional strings attached and more than just a physical connection. Having a SB on an allowance and supplementing her with those looking for pay-for-play (on a session basis, hours are irrelevant) has worked nicely. The SB scene has offered that and variety with great success and the allowance payments provide a constant reminder concerning the type of the relationship that it really is. I haven't given up on the escort scene, but exploring the SB scene is providing that level of adventure and most bang for the buck without the perceived risk factor (for now at least, without wondering if some gov agency may be on the other end of the line).
Stay safe,
Milfman.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9e52e741-405c-47df-b7a6-3d604f11df4a[/URL]
Wants $350 to meet. Hahahaha!
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2941887]This is helpful. To what extent do you care to be discreet about sharing your personal details with the POTs. Your real name, where you work, where you live, SO, etc. What has been your experience and learnings on this? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Having almost 2 yrs on this site, my position is to slowly reveal things about yourself. Business owner or contractor doesn't really say what I do. Meet / greet in a public setting is a must. A park, restaurants with outdoor patio, even used parking lot of bass pro once, just walked around it like we did it for our health. I find that before meeting, saying adult activity in a bedroom is enough, once in person, I clearly define what I like and ask the same of her. On more than one occasion, this has led to action same day. Always go prepared, had quite a few state not needed, they were on the pill. Overall, not ran into that many that didn't get the fact of what my intentions were. As far as telling them about me. I give basics, married / divorced, kids / quantity / age, explain a future communication type that will help keep thi gs on down low in my every day life. I like the challenge, the hunt, and of course the various types, ages, and willingness of these females on the site. I'm pretty settled at the moment. So doing more lurking than anything. He safe. Have fun.
[QUOTE=Jem411;2942932]Having almost 2 yrs on this site, my position is to slowly reveal things about yourself. Business owner or contractor doesn't really say what I do. Meet / greet in a public setting is a must. A park, restaurants with outdoor patio, even used parking lot of bass pro once, just walked around it like we did it for our health. I find that before meeting, saying adult activity in a bedroom is enough, once in person, I clearly define what I like and ask the same of her. On more than one occasion, this has led to action same day. Always go prepared, had quite a few state not needed, they were on the pill. Overall, not ran into that many that didn't get the fact of what my intentions were. As far as telling them about me. I give basics, married / divorced, kids / quantity / age, explain a future communication type that will help keep thi gs on down low in my every day life. I like the challenge, the hunt, and of course the various types, ages, and willingness of these females on the site. I'm pretty settled at the moment. So doing more lurking than anything. He safe. Have fun.[/QUOTE]Excellent guideline that's short and to point.
Only thing I might add is at m / g the arrangement and number of visits per month are worked out. I'm sure you do this also as this is a blueprint to my approach as well.
Again good post.
[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;2942987]Excellent guideline that's short and to point.
Only thing I might add is at m / g the arrangement and number of visits per month are worked out. I'm sure you do this also as this is a blueprint to my approach as well.
Again good post.[/QUOTE]I would not give out your name, info, etc. Especially if you are married. My first time I did and tried to break it off, she threatened with blackmail. Never did amount to anything and she didn't follow through, but I use just a generic name and a Text free app for phone number.
I typically do a Meet and Greet at a Public restaurant. A few times it has move to BCD.
Thanks for excellent pointers, Jem411 and JohnHC.
And to Gibson19's experience. That's the kind of blackmail situation I want to avoid. A visible business card, DL or credit card can easily identify one's personal info and should be avoided in plain sight.
Then I read some States allow websites to provide name and address against a license plate search like a phone number lookup. Not sure if this is true. I know I might be overthinking this.
On another note, one monger had an experience wherein he was encountered by LEO while trying to take a SB to a hotel. Apparently, LEO took them aside and asked personal info of each other to ensure it was not a trafficking situation. So, I guess it might not be a bad idea to exchange some level of basic info so that it doesn't appear like its some sort of money for sex situation. Thoughts?
1. Real college students at a real university working toward a degree are very unlikely to ever blackmail.
2. Someone doing SA as much for fun as money is, in my opinion, makes for a more pleasurable relationship.
3. Someone doing SA strictly for money is almost always likely to expect a "per visit" allowance, making it easy to have 3 or more SBs "on call. ".
4. MILFMan's advice about the initial M / G is spot on. Give them something, and don't even try to have sex. 4 times out of 5 they will be so "impressed" that they will recommend going "somewhere to hang out. ".
5. Pay no attention to the amount of money they list on the website as expecting. "High" doesn't mean "high. ".
6. Pros and semi-pros are easy to spot. Me: I avoid them.
7. Unemployed, desperate SBs: avoid them like the plague. Part of the SB experience is to find a different type person. The unemployed single mom is easy to find at the Waffle House. When someone is desperate, they will do almost anything. Sexually, that's a good thing. Personally, that's a dangerous thing.
8. I avoid the ones who look like models. Attitude. I've found that the 8. 5's are better catches than the 10's.
9. Other than college students, another great category is single moms with kids in college. They typically have a lot to lose if discovered, as well.
10. Trust your bullshit detector. There are too many opportunities on the site to take unnecessary chances.
11. Don't send the same initial email to every girl. Personalize the first paragraph, at least. It will make you stand out.
12. Sort your screens by "most recently joined. " If a girl joined today, then you have a chance to beat the crowd to her.
13. If a girl has been a member for 2 or more years and is still active almost daily, it means she knows how the system works. She is very likely to see you on a "per visit," non-exclusive basis. (And you may actually recognize her from BP, LOL.).
[QUOTE=AsianBuffet;2942130][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9e52e741-405c-47df-b7a6-3d604f11df4a[/URL]
Wants $350 to meet. Hahahaha![/QUOTE]Not worth a 50 HJ.