Rants and Raves plus Stupid Shit

[QUOTE=CrazyOld;2375701]I am glad someone is finally using this thread for "raves" instead of just "rants".
I believe the definition of ATF is to pick just one "ATF". Who is that lady that you would want to see if you knew, for whatever reason, it would be your last "hobby date" ever..[/QUOTE]I guess this goes to the 'root' of the question. Does the 'ATF' change over time? Technically it shouldn't but I feel like (at least for me) it kinda does. As you have 'more times' the 'ALL Time" shifts with the drifting sands.

[QUOTE=CrazyOld;2375701]
As for ATF's mine is clearly SaraofAlbany. A number of years ago after discovering sites like this, I found Sara. Her reviews were and still are, always excellent. She was my first real "date" with a professional lady and I have seen her many times over the years. Each meeting was a experience and time to remember..[/QUOTE]Sara is a top notch provider, no question. For the best GFE she is hard to beat. In fact, she was my ATF for a while back in 2005. Now 10 yrs later I am more a fan of the PSE. So while I look fondly back at the memories I have of my time with her, my newer dynamic blows that out of the water. Especially after that two girl show I just played out with Extreme Alexis and her friend. But some guys like Mercedes, some BMW, others like chevy or ford. I find it a very ethereal concept.

[QUOTE=CrazyOld;2375701]
MY hobby days have been virtually nonexistent for about a year due to health reasons, but I still read the boards and enjoy the hobby though the adventures of others. THANKS.[/QUOTE]I certainly hope you start feeling 'up to it' sooner than later. Maybe a little hobby would do you good;).

Peace.

PK.

[QUOTE=LokiPk;2380501]I guess this goes to the 'root' of the question. Does the 'ATF' change over time? Technically it shouldn't but I feel like (at least for me) it kinda does. As you have 'more times' the 'ALL Time" shifts with the drifting sands.

Sara is a top notch provider, no question. For the best GFE she is hard to beat. In fact, she was my ATF for a while back in 2005. Now 10 yrs later I am more a fan of the PSE. So while I look fondly back at the memories I have of my time with her, my newer dynamic blows that out of the water. Especially after that two girl show I just played out with Extreme Alexis and her friend. But some guys like Mercedes, some BMW, others like chevy or ford. I find it a very ethereal concept.

I certainly hope you start feeling 'up to it' sooner than later. Maybe a little hobby would do you good;).

Peace.

PK.[/QUOTE]THANKS.

FYI, I sent you a message.

Hi everyone. I'm new to the area and new to the hobby (first post). Other than a couple of body rubs with HE, I'm not too experienced, but I had a free chunk of time today, so I.

Decided to take the plunge and call a provider for something a little more "full service. " Of course, I wanted this to be a great experience, so I called Destiny (the highly recommended / Very well reviewed Destiny) for an appointment. She wanted me to call back. I did so twice, but she never picked up. I left my number, but she didn't call back. I can only assume that, because I couldn't really offer any references, she decided that she'd rather not. I would have appreciated being told this up front, but I don't blame her and I'm not upset with her.

About that. I totally get it. Anyway, I tried seven other well reviewed ladies and either got no answer, was sent to voice mail, or was told that there was no availability. Hmmm. What to do? I decided to try Kaylee. She was available. I'll write a review asap.

My question is, what is a newbie like me to do about getting references for the "top girls?" It seems like the best won't see anyone unless they are regulars or can offer references.

I really don't want to waste my time and money on bad experiences (see my review of Kaylee.). Is there something that I can say upon calling to assure them that I am new and not.

LE?

Thanks,

BigMoke.

[QUOTE=BigMoke06;2381497]Hi everyone. I'm new to the area and new to the hobby (first post). Other than a couple of body rubs with HE, I'm not too experienced, but I had a free chunk of time today, so I.

Decided to take the plunge and call a provider for something a little more "full service. " Of course, I wanted this to be a great experience, so I called Destiny (the highly recommended / Very well reviewed Destiny) for an appointment. She wanted me to call back. I did so twice, but she never picked up. I left my number, but she didn't call back. I can only assume that, because I couldn't really offer any references, she decided that she'd rather not. I would have appreciated being told this up front, but I don't blame her and I'm not upset with her.

About that. I totally get it. Anyway, I tried seven other well reviewed ladies and either got no answer, was sent to voice mail, or was told that there was no availability. Hmmm. What to do? I decided to try Kaylee. She was available. I'll write a review asap.

My question is, what is a newbie like me to do about getting references for the "top girls?" It seems like the best won't see anyone unless they are regulars or can offer references.

I really don't want to waste my time and money on bad experiences (see my review of Kaylee.). Is there something that I can say upon calling to assure them that I am new and not.

LE?

Thanks,

BigMoke.[/QUOTE]To answer your last question first. NOPE!

Nietzsche would say "He who would learn to fly one day must first learn to stand and walk and run and climb and dance; one cannot fly into flying. ".

Read the forums and take a few 'low-blows' and it will get better;).

Peace.

PK.

[QUOTE=CrazyOld;2381292]THANKS.

FYI, I sent you a message.[/QUOTE]That Gb is probably just what you need! LOL.

Peace.

PK.

[QUOTE=BigMoke06;2381497]Hi everyone. I'm new to the area and new to the hobby (first post). Other than a couple of body rubs with HE, I'm not too experienced, but I had a free chunk of time today, so I.

Decided to take the plunge and call a provider for something a little more "full service. " Of course, I wanted this to be a great experience, so I called Destiny (the highly recommended / Very well reviewed Destiny) for an appointment. She wanted me to call back. I did so twice, but she never picked up. I left my number, but she didn't call back. I can only assume that, because I couldn't really offer any references, she decided that she'd rather not. I would have appreciated being told this up front, but I don't blame her and I'm not upset with her.

About that. I totally get it. Anyway, I tried seven other well reviewed ladies and either got no answer, was sent to voice mail, or was told that there was no availability. Hmmm. What to do? I decided to try Kaylee. She was available. I'll write a review asap.

My question is, what is a newbie like me to do about getting references for the "top girls?" It seems like the best won't see anyone unless they are regulars or can offer references.

I really don't want to waste my time and money on bad experiences (see my review of Kaylee.). Is there something that I can say upon calling to assure them that I am new and not.

LE?

Thanks,

BigMoke.[/QUOTE]Darlin if you check my ad on here and other review sites they do state that I require references. I ask everyone that has never seen me for references. You don't have them sorry but I prefer to know what I am getting involved in just like you guys do by reading reviews. AND ON TOP OF IT, I don't carry my phone at the hip like the rest of these girls thanks. Safe hobbying.

[QUOTE=LokiPk;2357514]OH MY GAHD!

I wonder if she reminds anyone of certain streetwalkers in the area?

[URL]http://efukt.com/21212_'Original_P'.html[/URL]

BAHAHAHAHA.

Peace.

PK.[/QUOTE]This has to be the most HERRENDOUS thing I have EVER seen! She shoulda put down the crack pipe and got out of the biz 60 yrs ago, OMG! WTF is wrong w those titts, aaaaaahhhhhh! Going to have nightmares.

[QUOTE=KiraXXX;2395915]This has to be the most HERRENDOUS thing I have EVER seen! She shoulda put down the crack pipe and got out of the biz 60 yrs ago, OMG! WTF is wrong w those titts, aaaaaahhhhhh! Going to have nightmares.[/QUOTE]BAHAHAHAHAHA!

Peace.

PK.

[QUOTE]. Not destined to hook up with Destiny
Texted Destiny yesterday for the first time. After some light screening, she said she was free today. When I proposed lunchtime, she said she had to work until 1 PM. I then proposed 1:30, no response. Today I proposed 2 PM, still no response. I know she's busy, but so am I. Not pleased.[/QUOTE]This is a tip to the young, supposedly savvy online twenty somethings who demand instant gradification with that blunt entitlement personality.

Comments like this tell us nothing about providers, because it does not shock us normal human beings that a hookup with a good area provider doesn't happen "on demand" "every time. ".

When you run to the inter webs to complain because your booty call didn't happen in the first 24 hours, the message being sent is that you're acting like a spoiled child online, and us regular dudes who've been doing this awhile side with the provider.

If a provider strings you along, cancels scheduled appointments at zero hour, and generally wastes long periods of your time with teasing, dishonest behavior. That's when it's time to post.

No dude wants to see another dude cry in their cereal bowl. Seriously, it's the difference between being a dude and a dbag.

[QUOTE=RAAlbany;2397066]This is a tip to the young, supposedly savvy online twenty somethings who demand instant gradification with that blunt entitlement personality.

Comments like this tell us nothing about providers, because it does not shock us normal human beings that a hookup with a good area provider doesn't happen "on demand" "every time. ".

When you run to the inter webs to complain because your booty call didn't happen in the first 24 hours, the message being sent is that you're acting like a spoiled child online, and us regular dudes who've been doing this awhile side with the provider.

If a provider strings you along, cancels scheduled appointments at zero hour, and generally wastes long periods of your time with teasing, dishonest behavior. That's when it's time to post.

No dude wants to see another dude cry in their cereal bowl. Seriously, it's the difference between being a dude and a dbag.[/QUOTE]Amen. Perfectly said.

[QUOTE=RAAlbany;2397066]This is a tip to the young, supposedly savvy online twenty somethings who demand instant gradification with that blunt entitlement personality.

Comments like this tell us nothing about providers, because it does not shock us normal human beings that a hookup with a good area provider doesn't happen "on demand" "every time. ".

When you run to the inter webs to complain because your booty call didn't happen in the first 24 hours, the message being sent is that you're acting like a spoiled child online, and us regular dudes who've been doing this awhile side with the provider.

If a provider strings you along, cancels scheduled appointments at zero hour, and generally wastes long periods of your time with teasing, dishonest behavior. That's when it's time to post.

No dude wants to see another dude cry in their cereal bowl. Seriously, it's the difference between being a dude and a dbag.[/QUOTE]Not to mention he has completely destroyed his chances of seeing Destiny. Well. Ever. Those of us who know her knows she follows these boards and after reading that she will hit one button on her phone and one only. BLOCK.

[QUOTE=RAAlbany;2397066]This is a tip to the young, supposedly savvy online twenty somethings who demand instant gradification with that blunt entitlement personality.

Comments like this tell us nothing about providers, because it does not shock us normal human beings that a hookup with a good area provider doesn't happen "on demand" "every time. ".

When you run to the inter webs to complain because your booty call didn't happen in the first 24 hours, the message being sent is that you're acting like a spoiled child online, and us regular dudes who've been doing this awhile side with the provider.

If a provider strings you along, cancels scheduled appointments at zero hour, and generally wastes long periods of your time with teasing, dishonest behavior. That's when it's time to post.

No dude wants to see another dude cry in their cereal bowl. Seriously, it's the difference between being a dude and a dbag.[/QUOTE]It's funny how you call yourself a "regular dude who's been doing this awhile" when you actually have less reports on here than I do. That being said, I don't think it's too much to ask for a provider to shoot off a quick text saying "sorry can't make it today". I mean really, does that take that much fucking effort? I don't care how good she supposedly is, I'll give my cash to a gal who's not going to leave me hanging.

[QUOTE=Msanders;2398038]Not to mention he has completely destroyed his chances of seeing Destiny. Well. Ever. Those of us who know her knows she follows these boards and after reading that she will hit one button on her phone and one only. BLOCK.[/QUOTE]I guess it's lucky for me then, Msanders, that it's a buyer's market out there. If you want to continue to worship at the Altar That is Destiny's, that's all well and good. I'm looking elsewhere.

[QUOTE=WarrenAJeffers;2398625]I guess it's lucky for me then, Msanders, that it's a buyer's market out there. If you want to continue to worship at the Altar That is Destiny's, that's all well and good. I'm looking elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I'm with WarrenAJeffers on this one (it's a buyers market) because initial contact was made and then he got blown off. I've never seen Destiny so all I know about her are the generally good reviews and may call her someday myself.

However when I get blown off (and it's happened plenty of times) I figure if the provider is rude by ignoring me after contact is made then she doesn't need my business. I remember rudeness and most likely will scratch said provider off my list no matter how many good reviews they have. First impressions count. And there are plenty of ads to choose from.

That's my unasked for opinion.

It sounds like there's a little bit of emotion involved and grandstanding going on here designed to protect the reputation of an otherwise good provider. From a completely impartial perspective, it sounds to me like the post was a member calling it as he saw it. He says she stood him up and he wanted the rest of us to be careful. What part of that makes him a douchbag?

My personal opinion is that the world needs more providers who have the where with all that Destiny does however there is absolutely no excuse for agreeing to a meeting time then blowing off the appointment with no reply whatsoever. I've been around "the block" more than I care to count and can completely understand patience when it comes to working girls. Patience is one thing, poor or nonexistent communication is another. I'm all for patience however I have none for being fucked over by anyone. To be honest, I have my doubts that this happened exactly as it did. Furthermore, I suspect there is more to this than is known now so I too would give Destiny the benefit of doubt. Although, if she indeed stood this guy up then shame on her and WJ has every right to let it be known. In fact, this is exactly the place a fact based account of what happened. I and others want to know when this kind of shit happens. It sets the expectations for the rest of us. The beauty of this forum is that Destiny is on here frequently and has the same opportunity as the rest of us to respond and clear the air.

Bottom line, if this is indeed what happened, then a round of applause for WJ for giving the rest of us a heads up. If things didn't go down exactly as he said the shame on him for not telling us the rest of the story.

RA, if you accept this type of behavior from any provider then you're exactly the kind of patron that's ruining it for the rest of us. Shitty service should never be tolerated and should be ferreted out. Far too many girls pull this kind of shit then expect the rest of us to understand. Fuck that. I have a three strike policy for the simple reason that any one can have a true emergency that prevents them from responding but they have better odds winning the lottery than having three true emergencies which would prevent them from texting a response back.

L10.

[QUOTE=RAAlbany;2397066]This is a tip to the young, supposedly savvy online twenty somethings who demand instant gradification with that blunt entitlement personality.

Comments like this tell us nothing about providers, because it does not shock us normal human beings that a hookup with a good area provider doesn't happen "on demand" "every time. ".

When you run to the inter webs to complain because your booty call didn't happen in the first 24 hours, the message being sent is that you're acting like a spoiled child online, and us regular dudes who've been doing this awhile side with the provider.

If a provider strings you along, cancels scheduled appointments at zero hour, and generally wastes long periods of your time with teasing, dishonest behavior. That's when it's time to post.

No dude wants to see another dude cry in their cereal bowl. Seriously, it's the difference between being a dude and a dbag.[/QUOTE]