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Um, yes indeed you do!
[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2355707] Unless he like to watch like I do![/QUOTE]Odd, I have the same trouble with your advice when freckles, gingers or slight curves are involved.
[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2355707]
P.S. I always have trouble with my advice above if they are covered in freckles. Little head always wins out, damn thing![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Boardwalk;2355522][URL]http://indianapolis.nuvo.net/BodyRubs/sexy-tatiana-here-ready-to-ease-your-mind-and-take-your-stress-away/11674303[/URL]
Gents this was a complete RIP off.
1st she insisted on knowing when I was coming. Did a search on the phone and I could not find a bad review. So I went.
Place is a dump and the pictures are not actual, her teeth are all jacked. And of course. Drum roll. She is prego! WTF! She did not take a single item off.
And she smelled like an ashtray. No massage table, but instead an inflatable with nasty covers. (what was I thinking) ugh.
She puts on lotion, barely. And says I have to pee (twice) and then the BF comes in! Really? And then all of a sudden she asked me. Are you satisfied with the massage? I was like what!? For this rate you are nuts. And she started to get defensive. I was not trying to start anything and she was like ok we are done. Only (20 min). Oh and as she got the. 12 she says do you want to include a tip. I was like but what am I getting. And she was like trust me it's good. So I gave her an additional. 20 man. Worst. 14 I've donated! Anyways. Thought I share peeps.[/QUOTE]Before this thief took your money, her, her sister (who is currently calling herself Sammy) and Kendra (the petite blonde that advertises in the BP body rub section) are all friends and operate the same scam, in fact they all used to operate out of Kendra's place State and Raymond area, for some reason the 2 sisters headed to the east side.
[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2355707]I know a lot of you are newbies but what I don't get is why stay when:
1. Pics are not the person who answers the door. Ok, many pics are fake to protect identity but if the person answering the door does not even look good (teeth jacked) why stay?
2. Prego? Ok if you like prego but still why stay?
3. No massage table dirty inflatable with nasty covers? Why stay? As far as "What was I thinking", big head wasn't little head was.
4. BF shows up. Come on time to exit. (unless he like to watch like I do!
5. Asking for tips upfront, come on, that's negotiating for extras. Again why stay?
Advice: If the pics don't match the person but you like the looks, then you have to decide whether it's worth going in. If you do then start a conversation. Say "let's talk for a couple of minutes before we get started". Ask about service (s), contributions, privacy (I. E. Roommates), time frame, etc. This gives your big head time to digest the info and make a more rational decision (little head thinks quickly and doesn't reason). If they want the money up front then show it to them but say I'm will give it to you after we talk a little. Most scams will want it now some won't. I always say you get it when were done and I show them the money. If the convo isn't going well then walk with a. 20 for time. Spidey sense is a key component to the hobbyist. Use it.
FF.
P.S. I always have trouble with my advice above if they are covered in freckles. Little head always wins out, damn thing![/QUOTE]I am quite sure she has been talked about here and was always reported to be exactly as this, less the preggo aspect. Not sure it will surprise anyone she is a ripoff.---I apologize= if I has started at the bottom and read up I would know the issue was already well addressed-fricking newby.
Yes, it is both painful and amusing to watch as newcomers stumble into known traps, like "hey that nevaeh is hot, let's have a go!" Wish it wasn't so, but many of these gals are dirty scammers, looking for their next mark. Read up, stay informed and we'll all live to have many more good, and some great memories!
[QUOTE=Ilapp;2355946]I am quite sure she has been talked about here and was always reported to be exactly as this, less the preggo aspect. Not sure it will surprise anyone she is a ripoff.---I apologize= if I has started at the bottom and read up I would know the issue was already well addressed-fricking newby.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ilapp;2355946]I am quite sure she has been talked about here and was always reported to be exactly as this, less the preggo aspect. Not sure it will surprise anyone she is a ripoff.---I apologize= if I has started at the bottom and read up I would know the issue was already well addressed-fricking newby.[/QUOTE]Yep, I have posted on her in the past. Her and the sister used to dance at Babes. Complete, worthless lunatics.
I appreciate it when a newbie is willing to share information on his first posts instead of just expecting information from those who paid their dues years ago. That's especially true when revealing your faux pas sets you up for ridicule.
[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2355707]I know a lot of you are newbies but what I don't get is why stay when:
1. Pics are not the person who answers the door. Ok, many pics are fake to protect identity but if the person answering the door does not even look good (teeth jacked) why stay?
2. Prego? Ok if you like prego but still why stay?
3. No massage table dirty inflatable with nasty covers? Why stay? As far as "What was I thinking", big head wasn't little head was.
4. BF shows up. Come on time to exit. (unless he like to watch like I do!
5. Asking for tips upfront, come on, that's negotiating for extras. Again why stay?
Advice: If the pics don't match the person but you like the looks, then you have to decide whether it's worth going in. If you do then start a conversation. Say "let's talk for a couple of minutes before we get started". Ask about service (s), contributions, privacy (I. E. Roommates), time frame, etc. This gives your big head time to digest the info and make a more rational decision (little head thinks quickly and doesn't reason). If they want the money up front then show it to them but say I'm will give it to you after we talk a little. Most scams will want it now some won't. I always say you get it when were done and I show them the money. If the convo isn't going well then walk with a. 20 for time. Spidey sense is a key component to the hobbyist. Use it.
FF.
P.S. I always have trouble with my advice above if they are covered in freckles. Little head always wins out, damn thing![/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct.
Didn't even see it coming. I got to the place and it was a shit whole. I figure nah, it will be ok. It's winter and it's cold. She was wearing extra big sweats, so no way of seeing she was prego. Yes the Room was a mess but at that point I was like Oh boy, what have I got myself into! So the last thing I want is to freak out and bail when I'm in a bed room, not trying to get shot, I guess, honestly I saw her and said Fudge! She is a crack head. I did tell her while I got the lotion put on. For. 12 I would expect more. And she's like " no, not for my class" LOL. She was right about that! Oh well gents and any lady reading. All I'm saying is I'm being up front, this is what happen, and so you learn.
I do appreciate the advace. I have a lot of respect for all the sharing and happy (fill in the blank).
BTW. LOL newbie here, what do you mean by freckles? Little cute things you can't resist? LOL.
Thanks Guys.
[QUOTE=AchyBreaky;2356251]Yes, it is both painful and amusing to watch as newcomers stumble into known traps, like "hey that nevaeh is hot, let's have a go!" Wish it wasn't so, but many of these gals are dirty scammers, looking for their next mark. Read up, stay informed and we'll all live to have many more good, and some great memories![/QUOTE]I agree BP is starting to be the last resort lottery! I have been in the hobby many years now and hate to think that maybe it is time to retire! I have heard so much crap and seen so many fake pics that it is getting old! [URL]Esc.com[/URL] was the best and safest around at the time, now we all are taking chances with even our lives when we TOFTT!! I need to ponder this over! Thanks.
[QUOTE=Boneman59;2357351]I agree BP is starting to be the last resort lottery! I have been in the hobby many years now and hate to think that maybe it is time to retire! I have heard so much crap and seen so many fake pics that it is getting old! [URL]Esc.com[/URL] was the best and safest around at the time, now we all are taking chances with even our lives when we TOFTT!! I need to ponder this over! Thanks.[/QUOTE]I agree. It has gotten worse and worse over the past 10 years. Every now and then I give BP another shot with someone who has been reviewed, only to end up disappointed. There is a zero quality out there in Indy at a reasonable rate these days. And very few of quality at rate above what I would consider reasonable.
Remember to not only Google that phone number. Run that baby through facebook too. You will find a few of them on facebook and it gives you a whole different insight on some of them.
[QUOTE=Tony317;2357620]I agree. It has gotten worse and worse over the past 10 years. Every now and then I give BP another shot with someone who has been reviewed, only to end up disappointed. There is a zero quality out there in Indy at a reasonable rate these days. And very few of quality at rate above what I would consider reasonable.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AchyBreaky;2356251]Yes, it is both painful and amusing to watch as newcomers stumble into known traps, like "hey that nevaeh is hot, let's have a go!" Wish it wasn't so, but many of these gals are dirty scammers, looking for their next mark. Read up, stay informed and we'll all live to have many more good, and some great memories![/QUOTE]I agree with your post, but as a relatively new member of the board, I seem to be in a bit of a Catch-22. Since I'm new, I don't get a whole lot of responses to request for information on ads (and yes, I do search the boards before I ask). I understand why, and I have no issue with it. But newbies like us have to either TOFTT, or keep looking. Sometimes we get caught in the same traps that more veteran members knew about all along.
[QUOTE=Scup1958;2356413]I appreciate it when a newbie is willing to share information on his first posts instead of just expecting information from those who paid their dues years ago. That's especially true when revealing your faux pas sets you up for ridicule.[/QUOTE]Yes, thank you Boardwalk. And as newbies don't be afraid to take an arrow or two from veterans for asking about someone you're lusting after. 90% of the BP ads are going to lead you to end the day pissed off.
[QUOTE=NightOwl14;2357981]I agree with your post, but as a relatively new member of the board, I seem to be in a bit of a Catch-22. Since I'm new, I don't get a whole lot of responses to request for information on ads (and yes, I do search the boards before I ask). I understand why, and I have no issue with it. But newbies like us have to either TOFTT, or keep looking. Sometimes we get caught in the same traps that more veteran members knew about all along.[/QUOTE]One key suggestion is to do some research AND ask here, but do so with some headway before partaking. You won't get answers extremely quickly, so don't post when you're an hour away from wanting to see someone, research ahead of time and give a few days for answers to come in.
There are some good experiences available thru BP, but you really got to research it thoroughly to find them.
[QUOTE=NightOwl14;2357981]I agree with your post, but as a relatively new member of the board, I seem to be in a bit of a Catch-22. Since I'm new, I don't get a whole lot of responses to request for information on ads (and yes, I do search the boards before I ask). I understand why, and I have no issue with it. But newbies like us have to either TOFTT, or keep looking. Sometimes we get caught in the same traps that more veteran members knew about all along.[/QUOTE]A TOFTT is one way to start. With BP adds we all do that, whether you're a senior or a newbie. BP adds are normally new ladies and most are scams, fake pics, drug addicts etc. They normally are the one level above SW's. Seniors don't know them any better than newbies do. Some ladies who post on a regular basis are ones you can normally trust especially if a senior has reviewed them. See one of these providers and then post an accurate review, PM a senior who has seen her and tell him some things only he would know about her. This earns some trust. Just because a newbie posts that they saw the lady in the add doesn't mean they actually did? Anyone can say they saw the sexy blond and do a report, but I'm not calling her to make sure your post is real! Thus a TOFTT is virtually useless to establish your credibility on this board, at least with me, unless you give me info that only I would know.
Take the plunge and see a provider on 411, aNotheR site, TER or one that advertises on this board. There are several providers on these sites that have lot's of reviews so you know they are reputable and worth giving a shot. There are multiple other sites to look for ladies, just start looking. The problem is a well reputable provider is normally wanting info that most of you newbies don't want to give out. If they are reputable then at some point you have to trust them with the required info. Once you see one of them, then this starts the verification process and talk among the senior members. LE is on this board and as a senior I am not going to just hand out personal recommendations and UTR or Provider info without knowing that you are safe. I have extended my generosity to a couple of regular members recently but this is rare. I don't even hand out info to many senior members unless I know them, check on their posts or one of my lady or monger friends knows them.
I don't know if this helps, but at least I tried.
FF.
P.S. Not trying to be an ass but I gots to protect my freckles!
[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2358255]
I don't know if this helps, but at least I tried.
FF.
P.S. Not trying to be an ass but I gots to protect my freckles![/QUOTE]Understood. Thanks for the tips.