Strip Club Reports

First and foremost, great board! I love the activity and detailed responses. I'm an ATL resident who mongers domestically and internationally and this is one of the most active strip club boards I've stumbled upon, so salute.

Reading these boards are more research for me but going back 40 pages, I'm going to make a trip up to Detroit next month to play.

Just a few questions on items I couldn't ascertain from reading the board. So here goes:

1. BT's- I thought this was Bogarts at first but it seems this is a different establishment. Is BT an acronym for another club?

2. Music- Most reports are on H8, Subi, SC, BT, LS, & FC and indicate that these clubs are mixed ethnicities but skew Black. If so, what's the music like? These will give me a better idea of what I'm dealing with.

3. Dance Structure- I live in the south where when you find a dancer you like, she sits in your lap on the spot. The posts here indicate you have to "go to the back" for "dances. " Is all business done in the back or it possible to just get nude lap dances at the bar? If so, do the dancers object to DO (dick out) dances?

4. Dance Structure, pt. 2- While I have a great idea of what to expect for extras, should I only want nude dances, what's the going cost for dances per song?

5. Dress Code- I am assuming high mileage, good grinding lap dances. If this is the case, are cotton jogging pants or basketball shorts allowed in these establishments? I can't imagine the ladies are dancing all night on guys in jeans or khakis.

6. Dayshift or Nightshift- In my experience, dayshift is more lowkey and more geared towards the ladies who offer extras. Is this a safe assumption for Detroit?

7. Club Environment- What should I expect to pay for beers & cocktails. Is Cigar smoking allowed? In many places across the south, it's not taboo to smell weed in the air, and while I don't partake, I don't mind if a stripper gets buzzed. Is weed smoking ignored in these clubs?

8. Specialized Clubs- The consensus seems to be on mixed clubs, are there specialized Latina, Black, Asian spots? Most of the reports seem to be for White dancers, and that's awesome. However, my dick likes to taste all ethnicities. Should I assume there's no specialized spots? Or are there just no reports on those. There many references to eight miles (sic) clubs but not a lot of info on those. Can I find some Latin, Black or Asian clubs at the eight miles clubs or other areas litely mentioned.

Thanks in advance for your help. Should you ever be in ATL, I'm one of the authorities on strip club info there. I'm also very seasoned in MIA, Tampa, Houston, San Antonio, and Vegas.

If you travel internationally, I'm certainly your guy for El Salvador, Panama, Costa Rica, Columbia, Curacao, Brazil, Portugal, Spain, Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya, and South Africa. I'd be happy to share my insights with anyone.

Thanks for humoring me!

[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;6675063]First and foremost, great board! I love the activity and detailed responses. I'm an ATL resident who mongers domestically and internationally and this is one of the most active strip club boards I've stumbled upon, so salute.

Reading these boards are more research for me but going back 40 pages, I'm going to make a trip up to Detroit next month to play.

Just a few questions on items I couldn't ascertain from reading the board. So here goes:

1. BT's- I thought this was Bogarts at first but it seems this is a different establishment. Is BT an acronym for another club?[/QUOTE]1. BT's and Bogart's are different clubs. Called BT's and Bogart's. Silver Cricket is often called SC in reports. Flight Club often call FC.

2. Music has been trending away from rock for a few years now. The music at clubs will likely reflect this.

3. The extra fun at the clubs here is all in the back (VIP).

4. $10-$20 per song depending on the club.

5. You're not shopping at Walmart. Put on some fucking pants.

6. I've always had more fun with the dayshift.

7. Costs for incidentals vary. But I've never smelled weed in any club I've been to. This is what edibles are for and are legal in MI.

8. That's new. I've heard clubs described as "Black" but in reference to the clientele. Not the ladies. As an old white dude, I avoid the "Black" clubs. I don't need the fuckery and don't like the music.

[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;6675063]First and foremost, great board! I love the activity and detailed responses. I'm an ATL resident who mongers domestically and internationally and this is one of the most active strip club boards I've stumbled upon, so salute.

Thanks for humoring me![/QUOTE]SIP.

BTs is a different club, it is in Dearborn. I personally like it and usually start here. They sometime run a drink scam, and if they tell you that you have to buy more drinks, get up and walk out and go to another club.

BTs, LS and FC will only have a few black dancers. The music sucks at all the clubs.

You are not allowed lap dances in the main room, you must go back to the VIP. Do not take your dick out in the main room, you will be asked to leave, possibly forcefully.

All girls will be fine for nude dances. You have to pay the fee to use the VIP. Between $5 and $20 depending on the club. Dances are supposed to be $25 per song. Negotiated that with the girl ahead of time, if you don't many will tell you it is 30,40 or 50 per song. Detroit is a negotiation environment, you must negotiate for everything you want, or risk being disappointed. Some guys like the thrill of going back not knowing if the girl will perform or not and finding out. But many more guys complain that girl added charges in the VIP, because he wanted something that was not negotiated at the main room. If a girl tries to up charge in the VIP I usually end the session and walk out. But you can pay her increased price and throw additional coin at her.

Many clubs have a dress code, but only FC enforces it, that is one of the reasons I avoid FC is the constant customer harrassment. As for dancing all night on jeans that would be painful for the girls. When you go to the VIP, after you walk in, say I will enjoy the dance more if I remove my pants. She will be expecting you to do this 90% of the time. There is usually a hook in the VIP to hang them on.

At all other clubs beside FC, if you look clean and nicely dressed regardless of wearing soft pants or shorts you will be allowed in and at some clubs like you can wear virtually anything and they will let you in. I do caution against wearing shorts this time of year as it is cold in Michigan.

This assumption is wrong, on either day shift or night shift you will find willing girls for whatever you want to do. The key is prices, expect the girl to start negotiations between $500 and $1000. If you pay over $300 at FC, LS or BTs you got scammed. At $250 you are doing better and at $200 you are good negotiator. If you want to go below $200 then you need to look for girls who have already been to the VIP and covered their tip outs so your money is all profit to them. Tip outs in Detroit are between $100 & $200. You can pay less at H8 and Bogarts. Also if you only are looking for oral action you can knock about $50 off.

Beer or Cocktails will run you between $10 and $20 including a tip for you. If you buy the girls drinks it will cost between $15 and $30 including a tip. You didn't mention food but the food in the Detroit clubs is often decent.

Marijuana is legal in Michigan but smoking in many of the clubs is not. They often have heated smoking areas outside. Many girls will smell like marijuana or be obviously high.

There are some specialized black only clubs like Pantheon. Assuming you are not black, if you don't mind being the only non black person in the room, you will be welcome there like all other customers. There are no specialized Latina clubs, but almost all clubs have Latinas working, especially Cubans from Florida. Detroit has relatively few Asian and they are rare to find one, if you do she will typically be half Asian.

Have fun and write a report of your adventures.

MM.

BT's stands for Booby Trap.

[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;6675063]First and foremost, great board! I love the activity and detailed responses. I'm an ATL resident who mongers domestically and internationally and this is one of the most active strip club boards I've stumbled upon, so salute.

Reading these boards are more research for me but going back 40 pages, I'm going to make a trip up to Detroit next month to play.

Just a few questions on items I couldn't ascertain from reading the board. So here goes:

1. BT's- I thought this was Bogarts at first but it seems this is a different establishment. Is BT an acronym for another club?

2. Music- Most reports are on H8, Subi, SC, BT, LS, & FC and indicate that these clubs are mixed ethnicities but skew Black. If so, what's the music like? These will give me a better idea of what I'm dealing with.

3. Dance Structure- I live in the south where when you find a dancer you like, she sits in your lap on the spot. The posts here indicate you have to "go to the back" for "dances. " Is all business done in the back or it possible to just get nude lap dances at the bar? If so, do the dancers object to DO (dick out) dances?

4. Dance Structure, pt. 2- While I have a great idea of what to expect for extras, should I only want nude dances, what's the going cost for dances per song?

5. Dress Code- I am assuming high mileage, good grinding lap dances. If this is the case, are cotton jogging pants or basketball shorts allowed in these establishments? I can't imagine the ladies are dancing all night on guys in jeans or khakis.

6. Dayshift or Nightshift- In my experience, dayshift is more lowkey and more geared towards the ladies who offer extras. Is this a safe assumption for Detroit?

7. Club Environment- What should I expect to pay for beers & cocktails. Is Cigar smoking allowed? In many places across the south, it's not taboo to smell weed in the air, and while I don't partake, I don't mind if a stripper gets buzzed. Is weed smoking ignored in these clubs?

8. Specialized Clubs- The consensus seems to be on mixed clubs, are there specialized Latina, Black, Asian spots? Most of the reports seem to be for White dancers, and that's awesome. However, my dick likes to taste all ethnicities. Should I assume there's no specialized spots? Or are there just no reports on those. There many references to eight miles (sic) clubs but not a lot of info on those. Can I find some Latin, Black or Asian clubs at the eight miles clubs or other areas litely mentioned.

Thanks in advance for your help. Should you ever be in ATL, I'm one of the authorities on strip club info there. I'm also very seasoned in MIA, Tampa, Houston, San Antonio, and Vegas.

If you travel internationally, I'm certainly your guy for El Salvador, Panama, Costa Rica, Columbia, Curacao, Brazil, Portugal, Spain, Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya, and South Africa. I'd be happy to share my insights with anyone.

Thanks for humoring me![/QUOTE]Can I PM you for info on ATL or at least respond to you on here? I will be in ATL in a couple of weeks.

[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;6675063]First and foremost, great board! I love the activity and detailed responses. I'm an ATL resident who mongers domestically and internationally and this is one of the most active strip club boards I've stumbled upon, so salute.

Reading these boards are more research for me but going back 40 pages, I'm going to make a trip up to Detroit next month to play.

Just a few questions on items I couldn't ascertain from reading the board. So here goes:

1. BT's- I thought this was Bogarts at first but it seems this is a different establishment. Is BT an acronym for another club?

2. Music- Most reports are on H8, Subi, SC, BT, LS, & FC and indicate that these clubs are mixed ethnicities but skew Black. If so, what's the music like? These will give me a better idea of what I'm dealing with.

3. Dance Structure- I live in the south where when you find a dancer you like, she sits in your lap on the spot. The posts here indicate you have to "go to the back" for "dances. " Is all business done in the back or it possible to just get nude lap dances at the bar? If so, do the dancers object to DO (dick out) dances?

4. Dance Structure, pt. 2- While I have a great idea of what to expect for extras, should I only want nude dances, what's the going cost for dances per song?

5. Dress Code- I am assuming high mileage, good grinding lap dances. If this is the case, are cotton jogging pants or basketball shorts allowed in these establishments? I can't imagine the ladies are dancing all night on guys in jeans or khakis.

6. Dayshift or Nightshift- In my experience, dayshift is more lowkey and more geared towards the ladies who offer extras. Is this a safe assumption for Detroit?

7. Club Environment- What should I expect to pay for beers & cocktails. Is Cigar smoking allowed? In many places across the south, it's not taboo to smell weed in the air, and while I don't partake, I don't mind if a stripper gets buzzed. Is weed smoking ignored in these clubs?

8. Specialized Clubs- The consensus seems to be on mixed clubs, are there specialized Latina, Black, Asian spots? Most of the reports seem to be for White dancers, and that's awesome. However, my dick likes to taste all ethnicities. Should I assume there's no specialized spots? Or are there just no reports on those. There many references to eight miles (sic) clubs but not a lot of info on those. Can I find some Latin, Black or Asian clubs at the eight miles clubs or other areas litely mentioned.

Thanks in advance for your help. Should you ever be in ATL, I'm one of the authorities on strip club info there. I'm also very seasoned in MIA, Tampa, Houston, San Antonio, and Vegas.

If you travel internationally, I'm certainly your guy for El Salvador, Panama, Costa Rica, Columbia, Curacao, Brazil, Portugal, Spain, Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya, and South Africa. I'd be happy to share my insights with anyone.

Thanks for humoring me![/QUOTE]1. BT's and Bogart's are separate clubs (BT's is in Dearborn, Bogart's is in Inkster).

2. Most clubs will play rap, when they have a latin dancer she may choose reggaeton (Henry VIII and Bogart's have a more working class white clientele so expect to hear rock).

3. Outside of BT's and maybe Landing Strip / Flight Club and Silver Cricket at night, if you want any type of extracurricular you will have to go in the back / VIP.

4. Believe most dances in the back will be 20/ per song that's why it's more advantageous to get VIP in the back for more bang for your buck.

5. I'm going to say no, depending on the bouncer they will turn you away. Bogart's and Henry's are the more lax, but to be safe wear khaki's or jeans or even golf pants. Flight Club and LS will be the most strict, especially if you are African American.

6. Yep same for Detroit, day shift is wear you will get more value in terms of money and women who offer FS.

7. Never seen a stripper smoke a joint or blunt, you can smoke tobacco in Henry's and Bogart's (you will walk out smelling like a ashtray though).

8. You can find black dancers at all clubs, I noticed more latinas and middle eastern women at Landing Strip, Silver Cricket, BT's and Flight Club.

I lurk in the ATL thread so hopefully I can hit you on info on ATL which I will be visiting in 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;6675486]SIP.

BTs is a different club, it is in Dearborn. I personally like it and usually start here. They sometime run a drink scam, and if they tell you that you have to buy more drinks, get up and walk out and go to another club.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, I'll definitely write a report.

[QUOTE=DooMama7;6675721]Can I PM you for info on ATL or at least respond to you on here? I will be in ATL in a couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info above definitely helpful. If you want to ask here feel free, if it doesn't disrupt the flow of the board. I'll be happy ro reply. You can also look at my posts in the ATL board but I've been intermittent this last summer and fall an I've been doing a lot of international and domestic travel.

The scene in ATL is similar but also quite different. Seeing what's going on in other cities might be a benefit for this boardm.

I did a dance with Casper a week or so ago. BBBJ but not the best, she just needs to learn. Mechanical and not into it. I'd repeat but only in a pinch.

[QUOTE=Nick6789;6673825]Was at SC this Friday. Saw Brittany before she left day shift. About 30, thin white girl. 150 for average BBBJ. Night shift had 4 or 5 ebony girls with thin to athletic bodies. One thin white girl named casper I didn't get a chance to talk to. Hope to run into her again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;6675662]BT's stands for Booby Trap.[/QUOTE]BT's is literally BT's, it doesn't stand for anything. He can google "BT's strip club" or just "BT's Detroit" and find the info for the club on Michigan Ave in Dearborn.

Booby Trap has been closed for several years and is now Ace of Spades.

[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;6675063]First and foremost, great board! I love the activity and detailed responses. I'm an ATL resident who mongers domestically and internationally and this is one of the most active strip club boards I've stumbled upon, so salute.

Reading these boards are more research for me but going back 40 pages, I'm going to make a trip up to Detroit next month to play.

Just a few questions on items I couldn't ascertain from reading the board. So here goes:

Thanks for humoring me![/QUOTE]1) BT's is literally BT's, on Michigan Ave in Dearborn.

2) Music / Ethnicity. All of the clubs you mentioned are majority white. Exception is Silver Criket at night becomes a black, make it rain club. Music at all clubs is typically rap, hip hop or R&B, stuff with an easy beat to dance to. H8, Bogart's & Subi's will play some rock too.

3) No girls are giving lap dances in the open, they all want you back in VIP. I guess if you insisted and had cash, they would do it.

4) $20/ song is standard rate although a girl may ask for more if you want her bottoms off too.

5) You won't be admitted to most clubs if you're in sweats or track pants, and it's mid-November so way too cold to wear shorts. You may be able to get away with sweats in H8 or Bogie's.

6) Extras are always available regardless of shift. Night shift will usually have a higher asking price.

7) Drinks will be $7-$20 depending on club & what you get. H8, Bogie's & Subi's allow cigarette smoking, but I haven't seen guys smoking cigars. No weed but every girl is vaping, probably weed pens.

8) Specialized. Lots of black clubs that's it, but none of the ones you've mentioned are like that besides Criket at night. No Latina or middle eastern specialties, but a lot of Europeans at Flight Club, specifically Russian & Ukrainian (but they are really expensive too, like $500 for FS). Asians are in the massage parlors.

[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;6675063]First and foremost, great board! I love the activity and detailed responses. I'm an ATL resident who mongers domestically and internationally and this is one of the most active strip club boards I've stumbled upon, so salute.

Reading these boards are more research for me but going back 40 pages, I'm going to make a trip up to Detroit next month to play.

Just a few questions on items I couldn't ascertain from reading the board. So here goes:

1. BT's- I thought this was Bogarts at first but it seems this is a different establishment. Is BT an acronym for another club?

2. Music- Most reports are on H8, Subi, SC, BT, LS, & FC and indicate that these clubs are mixed ethnicities but skew Black. If so, what's the music like? These will give me a better idea of what I'm dealing with.

3. Dance Structure- I live in the south where when you find a dancer you like, she sits in your lap on the spot. The posts here indicate you have to "go to the back" for "dances. " Is all business done in the back or it possible to just get nude lap dances at the bar? If so, do the dancers object to DO (dick out) dances?.[/QUOTE]Going to chime in with some extra info:

2. Music- at LS and FC, decent mix of radio pop, rock, rap, country, hard rock. DJ's are decent and play songs that the dancers like.

4. Dance Structure, pt. 2- While I have a great idea of what to expect for extras, should I only want nude dances, what's the going cost for dances per song?

At the clubs I visit, typically, $25 per song, $20 to enter the VIP for topless dances. If you're charismatic enough you can get the nude dances at that cost.

5. Dress Code- They appreciate when you wear things that are comfortable. If I'm in jeans, I take them off, else in softer pants. At my regular spot LS I've been let in looking like a hobo in a sweatshirt and shorts lmao.

6. Dayshift or Nightshift- Dayshift is low key yes, only because of volume, not willingness to perform.

7. Club Environment- Drinks are marked up. If you're in the mood to blow, just get a bottle or two. Else, expect to pay $15 minimum for most things that you'd get for $3-$10 at any other bar. Cigars I've seen several on the bar floor. Can't speak for the other gentlemen here, but I'm younger and I've most definitely smoked weed with dancers in VIP.

8. Specialized Clubs- Given the demographics here you might the extra AA only club or two, but for the most part they all offer variety, but can be a mixed bag depending on day and time.

Hope you have fun!

I'll be visiting your city for the first time this week and wanted to thank everyone for all the great information on here. I put together this ranking based on what I had read from this board. The ones that are ranked with the most mentioned and seem to be the shirt thing for extras. I ranked them from least expensive FS to most expensive. Would you guys agree with this, I plan to visit him in this order.

1 Henry 8.

2 BTs.

3 Bogarts.

4 silver cricket.

5 landing strip.

6 fight club.

Would love to find a spinner middle eastern or light skinned black girl as well?

[QUOTE=ChrisCanders;6676687]I'll be visiting your city for the first time this week and wanted to thank everyone for all the great information on here. I put together this ranking based on what I had read from this board. The ones that are ranked with the most mentioned and seem to be the shirt thing for extras. I ranked them from least expensive FS to most expensive. Would you guys agree with this, I plan to visit him in this order.

1 Henry 8.

2 BTs.

3 Bogarts.

4 silver cricket.

5 landing strip.

6 fight club.

Would love to find a spinner middle eastern or light skinned black girl as well?[/QUOTE]1 Bog.

2 H8 N.

3 Silver Cricket.

4. Bts, they usually have a few middle easter or light skinned ladies working.

5. LS lANDING STRIP.

6 FC.

[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;6675876]Thanks for the info above definitely helpful. If you want to ask here feel free, if it doesn't disrupt the flow of the board. I'll be happy ro reply. You can also look at my posts in the ATL board but I've been intermittent this last summer and fall an I've been doing a lot of international and domestic travel.

The scene in ATL is similar but also quite different. Seeing what's going on in other cities might be a benefit for this boardm.[/QUOTE]Just off the back how do you go about DI / DO dances and what clubs do you recommend. From what I saw on the ATL board, diamonds, club platinum (closed? Blaze, wax, vivide, seduction and gold room / club?

What are the differences you notice?

Visited Ann Arbor last weekend and made use of Detroit strip club info to maximize the 3 hours of "loose" time I had available Friday afternoon.

Started at SC, getting there right after they opened at noon. Approached by Angel soon after sitting down at bar, chatted a bit, then she went on stage. Liked what I saw (cute MILF with small naturals and nice legs) and easily negotiated a trip to VIP, BBBJ, CFS, and MSOG for $$. $10 for room and another $10 to security. Angel got naked right away, kissed and played a bit, then next thing you know, HE was out. BJ's don't usually get me off, but damn this was the best BBBJ I ever had! Blew in her mouth within about 5 min and she kept going till I tapped out. Little cuddling, then she started in again. Got me hard, but I was drained so declined the FS portion. Shouldn't have, but did. In, scored, and out in a little over 30 min. Left very happy and went down the road to FC.

FC very different from SC. Very nice facility, almost sensory overload. Hung out at bar and approached by Vanessa, tallish blonde, natural boobs. Told her I was interested in VIP, but wanted to hang a bit. Watched three full rotations of dancers and tipped two 8's and and one 10 and asked them for VIP, but none ever came to talk to me. I think they were all busy with regulars. Finally caught Vanessa on her last song and she excused herself from her booth guy and came to me. Negotiated VIP BBBJ and CFS for $$ (don't hate me, compared to where I live a bargain). Services fulfilled and able to last for reasonable time in very nice cowgirl since I had been previously drained.

The 10 that got away was I think Hispanic or Cuban, very petite, natural small beasts with a but that could bounce a dime. Name something like Lucia I think. I would have gone 1 K for her. Should have offered, but sadly, didn't. Curious if anyone here has insight on what I missed?

Again, thanks to recon here, I had a great afternoon and hope to return next year once more.

Stopped by BT's with some time to kill, first time there on day shift in a while. Saw Abbey (good looking middle eastern maybe?, 5'4/5'5 black hair, nice ass, B cup) Talked to Amira who came out quoting $$ 5 for CBJ, got her down to $$ but even still that's a lot I think for just CBJ, she mentioned that's all she does.

Also talked to Chloe, Had to pull her away from a group of guys in a booth (hate when all the working girls spend all the time in one booth) Chloe was good looking but I told her to come back around later, should have just went back with her. She mentions she does OTC too.

Gyspy is new there. Her 2nd day there. From North Carolina. Indian, attractive. 5'1, A cup, slim but nice ass.

No idea what I was thinking, wasn't thinking at all. Chloe by the way 5'4 ish, dark brown / blonde hair, B. C cup, really nice ass. 7. 5/8 looks. If anybody has Chloe's number from BT's day shift please PM. (not the Chloe from night shift, ditzy blonde).

Trying to get back in the club scene, preferably day shift, can't do tryst / eros anymore, hit or miss on looks sometimes. Better to see them in person first before spending money IMO.

I used to frequent the venus flytrap, before the big fiasco and covid happened. Is this place still good for tons of backroom extras, it used to be crazy back there. Good place for food and affordable BJ and FS.

Going through divorce and thinking back to those olds haunts.

Yeah, it's a dirty disgusting hole, but it used to be a cheap place to watch football and boobies. Anyway, I heard through the grapevine that Keith died. I know he was shot several years ago but thought he recovered. Can anyone confirm?

[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;6675063]

Just a few questions on items I couldn't ascertain from reading the board. So here goes:

8. Specialized Clubs- The consensus seems to be on mixed clubs, are there specialized Latina, Black, Asian spots? Most of the reports seem to be for White dancers, and that's awesome. However, my dick likes to taste all ethnicities. Should I assume there's no specialized spots? Or are there just no reports on those. There many references to eight miles (sic) clubs but not a lot of info on those. Can I find some Latin, Black or Asian clubs at the eight miles clubs or other areas litely mentioned.

[/QUOTE]Pimp!

Wasn't going to say anything, but may as well add!

You missed the boat on the actual city of Detroit black clubs when they still had VIPs.

Someone already mentioned Pantheion in Dearborn. They have the market cornered for an all black dancer club for dayshift activity. Cover after 3 pm is $20! Not sure what it is before that because never made it early enough, but assume it's $10. Dances were $10 a song before but not sure if that's still the case. It's a crowded club, it does have VIP rooms and there are a ton of dancers of all shapes that work there. It's a straight make it rain environment and the DJ spins the songs fast, changing maybe every 2 minutes. Good for eye candy, but it's not a personal favorite of mine. Night shift is actually less crowded and more laid back than dayshift. Kinda like a bizarro Vivide without latinas and the venue is a lot smaller. They had no problem with me wearing my t-shirt and thin joggers into the club.

Almost every other black dancer club doesn't even open doors until 8 pm.

That said, I can't truly recommend any good black dancer clubs and would say it may be best to use the intel others provided about the clubs talked about the most on this board. None of those clubs are my type of vibe, mainly because I don't enjoy the "go to the back" style of clubs, but you're more likely to find something you like.

But I will say the clubs I WOULD go for myself are Sexy Secret on east side in the city limits of Detroit and HT's (Hot Tameles) on the west of Detroit on 8 mile. Sexy Secret is in the hood. It's a small joint, the ladies are not the best AT ALL looks-wise (some chicks may even stink! No VIP, $10 cover and $10 dances. I would only go here if you really want a laid back hood place. Super, super SMALL and there will be less than 10 chicks working here. Smaller than Seduction and not as nice on the interior. Used to be called Bevs Backstreet lounge. I only go here when I want to change it up from HT's.

HT's is $10 cover and chicks are now trying to charge $20 dances, but many can be had for $10. Ask the price ahead of time and if they say $20, pass. This is really the only club I mess with. Also a small club but larger than Sexy Secret and have better looking dancers (but some are fugly and several are older). I consider this the club that chicks go to retire from. I've had DO many times here, mainly around the bar. Actually just had DO a few weeks ago here, but the chick I was rocking with has known me for like 10 years! It's not easy to get DO, but it can be done. Although this is my fav, I still wouldn't recommend it unless you get tired of the scene provided at the popular clubs this board speaks of often. Also, this club hasn't fully return to form post-covid. I was there on a Friday and Satarday a few weeks ago and there was only 10 girls on the Friday and maybe 15-16 on Saturday. It was enough to satisfy me, but that's pretty light pickings. Used to have way more girls before. Lighter crowds make it harder for DO unless a chick really wants to make it work.

There are other clubs along 8 mile and Michigan Ave, but they will want $30-$40 cover. Not worth it IMHO.

Pantheion is it for black club for day. Everything else only has nightshift.

Be safe. Detroit (city of) is not for the faint of heart!

[QUOTE=Wleakr;6680527]Pimp!

Wasn't going to say anything, but may as well add!

You missed the boat on the actual city of Detroit black clubs when they still had VIPs.

Someone already mentioned Pantheion in Dearborn. They have the market cornered for an all black dancer club for dayshift activity. Cover after 3 pm is $20! Not sure what it is before that because never made it early enough, but assume it's $10. Dances were $10 a song before but not sure if that's still the case. It's a crowded club, it does have VIP rooms and there are a ton of dancers of all shapes that work there. It's a straight make it rain environment and the DJ spins the songs fast, changing maybe every 2 minutes. Good for eye candy, but it's not a personal favorite of mine. Night shift is actually less crowded and more laid back than dayshift. Kinda like a bizarro Vivide without latinas and the venue is a lot smaller. They had no problem with me wearing my t-shirt and thin joggers into the club.

Almost every other black dancer club doesn't even open doors until 8 pm.

That said, I can't truly recommend any good black dancer clubs and would say it may be best to use the intel others provided about the clubs talked about the most on this board. None of those clubs are my type of vibe, mainly because I don't enjoy the "go to the back" style of clubs, but you're more likely to find something you like.

But I will say the clubs I WOULD go for myself are Sexy Secret on east side in the city limits of Detroit and HT's (Hot Tameles) on the west of Detroit on 8 mile. Sexy Secret is in the hood. It's a small joint, the ladies are not the best AT ALL looks-wise (some chicks may even stink! No VIP, $10 cover and $10 dances. I would only go here if you really want a laid back hood place. Super, super SMALL and there will be less than 10 chicks working here. Smaller than Seduction and not as nice on the interior. Used to be called Bevs Backstreet lounge. I only go here when I want to change it up from HT's.

HT's is $10 cover and chicks are now trying to charge $20 dances, but many can be had for $10. Ask the price ahead of time and if they say $20, pass. This is really the only club I mess with. Also a small club but larger than Sexy Secret and have better looking dancers (but some are fugly and several are older). I consider this the club that chicks go to retire from. I've had DO many times here, mainly around the bar. Actually just had DO a few weeks ago here, but the chick I was rocking with has known me for like 10 years! It's not easy to get DO, but it can be done. Although this is my fav, I still wouldn't recommend it unless you get tired of the scene provided at the popular clubs this board speaks of often. Also, this club hasn't fully return to form post-covid. I was there on a Friday and Satarday a few weeks ago and there was only 10 girls on the Friday and maybe 15-16 on Saturday. It was enough to satisfy me, but that's pretty light pickings. Used to have way more girls before. Lighter crowds make it harder for DO unless a chick really wants to make it work.

There are other clubs along 8 mile and Michigan Ave, but they will want $30-$40 cover. Not worth it IMHO.

Pantheion is it for black club for day. Everything else only has nightshift.

Be safe. Detroit (city of) is not for the faint of heart![/QUOTE]Cricket dayshift has a bunch of black dancers if that is what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=Bmarr77;6680658]Cricket dayshift has a bunch of black dancers if that is what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the tip. From what I've read here, the days runs around maybe 6-12 dancers depending on the day of the week?

I may have to check it out one of these days. Since it's only about 15 minutes from Pantheion makes for a good alternative. Still seems like it's a "go to the back" type spot, but need to see for myself.

Is pantheon know for extras? Or am I better off going to SC?

[QUOTE=Wleakr;6680527]Pimp!
Wasn't going to say anything, but may as well add!

You missed the boat on the actual city of Detroit black clubs when they still had VIPs.

Someone already mentioned Pantheion in Dearborn. They have the market cornered for an all black dancer club for dayshift activity. Cover after 3 pm is $20! Not sure what it is before that because never made it early enough, but assume it's $10. Dances were $10 a song before but not sure if that's still the case. It's a crowded club, it does have VIP rooms and there are a ton of dancers of all shapes that work there. It's a straight make it rain environment and the DJ spins the songs fast, changing maybe every 2 minutes. Good for eye candy, but it's not a personal favorite of mine. Night shift is actually less crowded and more laid back than dayshift. Kinda like a bizarro Vivide without latinas and the venue is a lot smaller. They had no problem with me wearing my t-shirt and thin joggers into the club.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigJon2435;6681230]Is pantheon know for extras? Or am I better off going to SC?[/QUOTE]They do have VIP rooms and I've been told by others that extras are available.

That said, I have never had a dancer actively push VIP my way and I've never asked. The place, especially during day shift, is such a party vibe, make it rain joint that IMHO most chicks don't need VIP money. They're getting rained on for just twerking in the air.

I feel if I were to ask about VIP, I'd get a lot of "I don't do that". But have seen some folks use it, though, just not a lot.

Heading to BT 's for lunch tomorrow. Prefer short petite spinners. Any particular girls I should look for? Or look out for? LOL.

[QUOTE=Wleakr;6681335]They do have VIP rooms and I've been told by others that extras are available.

That said, I have never had a dancer actively push VIP my way and I've never asked. The place, especially during day shift, is such a party vibe, make it rain joint that IMHO most chicks don't need VIP money. They're getting rained on for just twerking in the air.

I feel if I were to ask about VIP, I'd get a lot of "I don't do that". But have seen some folks use it, though, just not a lot.[/QUOTE]I've definitely gotten extras there before, 2 different times. Both times I wasn't going with the intent of doing it either. Was going to chill out and eat. Both night shift and cost me 200-250 if I'm not mistaken and it was 2017. Day shift everything is half off aka regular priced so it's always more crowded and for the younger crowd.

I was in the Dearborn area and stopped into SC Thurs early afternoon. Maybe 8 gals, majority thicker but in the range, no spinners or stunners. Clear cut above skg. Met "Cat" and hit the VIP. CBJ, cfs, several positions, booth maneuvers a bit tricky. No entry cover, expected high booze price, VIP 10. Enjoyed her, very chill person, can converse, $. 5, added tip for good service.

[QUOTE=RedDog1951;6677148]Visited Ann Arbor last weekend and made use of Detroit strip club info to maximize the 3 hours of "loose" time I had available Friday afternoon.

Started at SC, getting there right after they opened at noon. Approached by Angel soon after sitting down at bar, chatted a bit, then she went on stage. Liked what I saw (cute MILF with small naturals and nice legs) and easily negotiated a trip to VIP, BBBJ, CFS, and MSOG for $$. $10 for room and another $10 to security. Angel got naked right away, kissed and played a bit, then next thing you know, HE was out. BJ's don't usually get me off, but damn this was the best BBBJ I ever had! Blew in her mouth within about 5 min and she kept going till I tapped out. Little cuddling, then she started in again. Got me hard, but I was drained so declined the FS portion. Shouldn't have, but did. In, scored, and out in a little over 30 min. Left very happy and went down the road to FC.

FC very different from SC. Very nice facility, almost sensory overload. Hung out at bar and approached by Vanessa, tallish blonde, natural boobs. Told her I was interested in VIP, but wanted to hang a bit. Watched three full rotations of dancers and tipped two 8's and and one 10 and asked them for VIP, but none ever came to talk to me. I think they were all busy with regulars. Finally caught Vanessa on her last song and she excused herself from her booth guy and came to me. Negotiated VIP BBBJ and CFS for $$ (don't hate me, compared to where I live a bargain). Services fulfilled and able to last for reasonable time in very nice cowgirl since I had been previously drained.

The 10 that got away was I think Hispanic or Cuban, very petite, natural small beasts with a but that could bounce a dime. Name something like Lucia I think. I would have gone 1 K for her. Should have offered, but sadly, didn't. Curious if anyone here has insight on what I missed?

Again, thanks to recon here, I had a great afternoon and hope to return next year once more.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming you meant you spent $200 for BBBJ and covered full service at Flight Club, right? If so, that's a pretty good deal for that club. If you meant something different. That's why using codes instead of just typing out what you mean doesn't help anyone.

[QUOTE=TheBaggZinn;6682142]I've definitely gotten extras there before, 2 different times. Both times I wasn't going with the intent of doing it either. Was going to chill out and eat. Both night shift and cost me 200-250 if I'm not mistaken and it was 2017. Day shift everything is half off aka regular priced so it's always more crowded and for the younger crowd.[/QUOTE]Not surprised those visits were night shift. Although those visits were a ways back, nights doesn't see the money flow that day shift sees, so more likely to push VIP.

I would also argue more dancers as a whole across all clubs were more willing to do VIP in 2017 than now.

For Panthieon dayshift, I wouldn't describe the club as young. There are a lot of folks 30 yo and over in the club, mostly coming directly after work. The vibe is a young vibe, but the patrons skew older. Most young guys prefer nights to days.

[QUOTE=Wleakr;6682277]Not surprised those visits were night shift. Although those visits were a ways back, nights doesn't see the money flow that day shift sees, so more likely to push VIP.

I would also argue more dancers as a whole across all clubs were more willing to do VIP in 2017 than now.

For Panthieon dayshift, I wouldn't describe the club as young. There are a lot of folks 30 yo and over in the club, mostly coming directly after work. The vibe is a young vibe, but the patrons skew older. Most young guys prefer nights to days.[/QUOTE]Am I able to ask you info about Atlanta SCs if you are from down there or have experience?

[QUOTE=DooMama7;6682524]Am I able to ask you info about Atlanta SCs if you are from down there or have experience?[/QUOTE]Any info I have worth saying, I've posted about. Just look through my posts.

Pretty sure the main thing you're looking for is how to approach DO in ATL. Pimp would be a better authority than me, as he actually "speaks" to these chicks, whereas I go by "vibe" because I hate talking to these chicks! LOL!

Which is probably why I'm not a VIP guy, as discussion is needed to pin down expected services vs financial compensation. I don't find that enjoyable. And for those of us who choose to do VIP without discussion, you can't be surprised when you don't get what you want or get sticker shocked of the price tag the dancer charges!

[QUOTE=Wleakr;6682277]Not surprised those visits were night shift. Although those visits were a ways back, nights doesn't see the money flow that day shift sees, so more likely to push VIP.

I would also argue more dancers as a whole across all clubs were more willing to do VIP in 2017 than now.

For Panthieon dayshift, I wouldn't describe the club as young. There are a lot of folks 30 yo and over in the club, mostly coming directly after work. The vibe is a young vibe, but the patrons skew older. Most young guys prefer nights to days.[/QUOTE]Agree.

I find the same.

I would also argue more dancers as a whole across all clubs were more willing to do VIP in 2017 than now.

[QUOTE=Wleakr;6682277]Not surprised those visits were night shift. Although those visits were a ways back, nights doesn't see the money flow that day shift sees, so more likely to push VIP.

I would also argue more dancers as a whole across all clubs were more willing to do VIP in 2017 than now.

For Panthieon dayshift, I wouldn't describe the club as young. There are a lot of folks 30 yo and over in the club, mostly coming directly after work. The vibe is a young vibe, but the patrons skew older. Most young guys prefer nights to days.[/QUOTE]I'm speaking from a personal pov tho. In 2017 when those happened I was pretty young myself 27/28 and me and my friends / associates always went during the days. Hell our peers would always go to day shift because a shot was $8 instead of $16 and everything was basically half the price of night shift. It's definitely "make it rain" hours during the day. But you are spot on about extras back then rather than now. It was way easier and cheaper. I'm thinking of taking my talents to the mich ave clubs but outside of FC I never been so idk where to start.

[QUOTE=DuckDuckInFin;6664586]As I last mentioned, here's a recount of my times mongering. It's kind of turning into a memoir hahaha!

Hope you have a good time reading this!

I've going to (mainly) LS since 2011.

Keep in mind that I'm from a developing country. When I was growing up, my city / society / etc were quite conservative, talking about sexual things was taboo, though things have started changing now. Until my mid 20's I didn't even know that propositioning women was okay, whether you got rejected or not. Believe me when I say I was raised in a "hurr durr you don't do it till you're married" type environment.

My first ever visit to any strip club was in Nov 2011, to Landing Strip, when I was a fresh faced college grad that had just started grad school in MI. Maybe it was the setting, but that experience was incredible. It changed my life. Maybe that's why I keep going back there, partly nostalgia, partly amazing experiences.

First dance ever was from Jess. I would never see her at LS again. Pretty, pale girl, dark hair and dark shell framed glasses. But me being a naive kid at the time, accepted an offer of $200 for a "long fun dance". I had been told before by friends that dancers would be topless, maybe naked during the VIP. Hands drifting mostly allowed and a lot of fondling.[/QUOTE]Due to said upbringing, I was having difficulty. I am extroverted and could chat people up and land dates, but was just unable to turn things sexual in conversation which obviously led to me not getting laid and a lot of frustration.

So I thought I'd start going to LS from time to time to gradually kill two birds with one stone. And it worked damn well, I'm pretty fearless in saying stuff to random people now!

Since 2013, I've seen a lot of dancers. Spent about 95% of visits at LS; I try and make it to a few of their parties like Halloween. Very, very rarely, I've been there 2 days in a row.

I don't shy away from getting the occasional drink for someone whether I go to VIP with them or not, it's an investment in my mind. I'm decently young (35) and that seems to help a LOT.

And so, I've a made a LOT of dancer / waitress acquaintances who don't mind sitting with me even if I tell them I'm there to see someone else. More often than not, they give me their number / snapchat with a "text me before you come next time". And a couple of times, a direct-to-takeout.

I'm trying to remember all but here's an inconclusive list:

(in no particular order).

Jess Ruby Reanna Teia Cameron Savannah Lydia Grace April Rosie Francesca Brianna Nadia Corinne Liv Violet Olivia.

Kendall Paris Thai Tiffany Rain Alison Adrianna Anastasia Arabella Stacey Allison J.

Thalia Katelyn Leah (waitresses7/ or shot girls).

In summary, all of the above named dancers have treated me very well. I'm pretty particular in what I want so I won't go to VIP with dancers hoping to convince them for more back there.

I will follow up with some brief reviews of all soon. LMK if any of those name sound familiar to you!

Went on Tues hoping to reconnect with Sandra or Sabrina. But neither were there. They were prepping for a bday party of some sort- and the talent was not good. Avg weight of the dancers was 180.

Had Elise swing by, who is tall and skinny and who I had visited with before successfully for 1 x in the back with French lesson. Today she was a bit off- extra chatty, and had a weird breath smell- not bad, but weird. Maybe the vape she hit non stop. Offered the 1 x again with no song count- she asked if covered- I said sure. The breath thing, and her teeth looked a little off since last time. Should have just walked when it took her 5 minutes in the back to gather her stuff, and then talked to 3 people on in booths on the way to VIP. Anyway. Those little a cup implants make me wonder why she even did it- hard rocks like a racquetball. Toothy and rushed experience later, and I left with her asking for a tip for a great job. Not so much. Just walked out from there shaking my head. Always swear off the hobby after weird interactions like this. But need to learn to just leave next time.

I used to be in Detroit every couple months. Looking back on it, the peak of the wave, in my opinion, might have been around 2016 Penthouse Club. There were tons of hot girls AND they came around to talk to you. If I saw someone I liked, it didn't involve making a tree blind somewhere so that I could spot her as soon as she got up from the booth she'd been sitting at for two hours.

Since 2020, I've only been in town once or twice a year. It usually goes like this. 1) go to Flight Club and I see a bunch of 7's and 7. 5's and maybe a few mannequin-like, fake breasted 35 yo Europeans who are very sexy but not alluring. Disappointment. 2) After a while, I see one or two nines who make me feel like I am definitely in the right place. 3) I spend 90 minutes trying to get the attention of one of the 9's. I fail. 4) Maybe things will be easier at the Landing Strip. I drive there. It is not easier. There's one hot girl whose attention I also can not get and some 7's who I would have happily gone into a room with four hours earlier, but now that feels like a surrender. 5) I go to my hotel and jerk off like a caged monkey.

Things were going similarly this week's visit. There were two 9's who would have been two of the hottest girls in the club just about anywhere in America. A pretty blonde in her early 20's with well done fakes and perfect, slim legs and ass. A, poised tall brunette who was vaguely exotic who reminded me of a Bond girl. There was also an 8, 8. 25 with brown hair who had no tats and looked like an typical college girl you might see at WMU. Nice dimples at the small of her back and clean look. I'd be super jazzed to go into VIP with any of those three.

I had a hard time getting the attention of the Bond girl, but during a dance I gave the blonde $10 and told her to come see me--this is where things usually go awry, because 15 other dudes have just done the same thing. There were a couple guys there that night *literally* throwing money around. But after 20 minutes she does. Haha! Yes! She was super sweet and funny and we both agreed that dances are the most fun when I am not wearing pants. She started with a very high quote but we agreed on $500 and I had just the best time with her. CBJ and covered FS. She was so hot and really wanted me to have a good time.

About half the time when I've gone VIP at Detroit's clubs I've walked out with a memory that I treasure years later. The other half of the time I get an experience that's what I imagine using a Real Doll would be like. But when it's good, it's so great there. I hope you appreciate how good you've got it. I've had some pretty good experiences in Houston, but it's still hit or miss. And there's less privacy and a lot more hustle from the girls. I think if you go into a Strip Club in, say, Des Moines, you might walk out thinking "That one stripper really liked me". But you also have been sitting on your hands for the last hour. And I've been in FKK clubs in Germany that are just like big strip clubs full of Latvian models with private bedrooms all over. But the experience there is "She was super hot. And she definitely did not like me. " Only in Detroit does the "I think that one stripper really liked me" vibe continue until the curtain opens again.

[QUOTE=Trobber222;6683517]Went on Tues hoping to reconnect with Sandra or Sabrina. But neither were there. They were prepping for a bday party of some sort- and the talent was not good. Avg weight of the dancers was 180.

Had Elise swing by, who is tall and skinny and who I had visited with before successfully for 1 x in the back with French lesson. Today she was a bit off- extra chatty, and had a weird breath smell- not bad, but weird. Maybe the vape she hit non stop. Offered the 1 x again with no song count- she asked if covered- I said sure. The breath thing, and her teeth looked a little off since last time. Should have just walked when it took her 5 minutes in the back to gather her stuff, and then talked to 3 people on in booths on the way to VIP. Anyway. Those little a cup implants make me wonder why she even did it- hard rocks like a racquetball. Toothy and rushed experience later, and I left with her asking for a tip for a great job. Not so much. Just walked out from there shaking my head. Always swear off the hobby after weird interactions like this. But need to learn to just leave next time.[/QUOTE]Yep, your bad vibe was telling you something, next time you will know.

[QUOTE=MentalLimit;6681687]Heading to BT 's for lunch tomorrow. Prefer short petite spinners. Any particular girls I should look for? Or look out for? LOL.[/QUOTE]Figure I would add my report. Walked in BTs at 1 pm on Friday. First girl on stage is my perfect spinner type. She comes over as there are only 3 patrons including myself. About 8-10 dancers I saw walking or sitting by the bar.

Says her name is Kaitlyn, has a southern accent and says she is from Memphis. Amazing personality, so bubbly, talkative. I bring up VIP she starts at $300 for CBJ and $400 for FS. Get her down to $250 FS. Great warm up dances. DFK, BBBJ (surprise) and then CFS. Just an A plus time all together. Says she will do OTC with a regular. I didn't ask about price for that, but definitely want to.

Hey fine people.

I recently took a break from the hobby, which is something I normally do if I find myself in a position where I'm seeing someone and thinking that things might have a chance to get a bit more serious. Things didn't pan out, no great loss, but now I have a familiar itch that I need to scratch. I'll probably just run the circuit sometime this week to reacquaint myself with the scene, but I wanted to pick the brains of those who frequent this board first.

I'm looking for a black girl. I don't have too strong of a preference when it comes to body type, but I do tend to prefer those who at least appear to be under the age of 35. The big, #1 important thing to me is personality. I like fun, bubbly girls who can convince me that they actually like their jobs. Either genuinely enjoying things or a convincing enough actress to fool me. Does anyone have any VIP knockouts they wouldn't mind sharing with me? If not, I'm going to go ahead and start making the rounds, and I'll leave a breadcrumb trail of reviews here so my fellow enthusiasts don't risk any false starts with bad providers.

I only go to H8, Bogie's, and the Criket. I don't do FS or LC, the vibes just don't fit me. BT's is a maybe, I haven't liked the GPS there. I don't need bombshell hot, but still decent looking.

Also had a question since the conversation here recently veered towards black-only clubs in the area. Is a lone white guy able to show up to those sorts of places, or could that be taken as disrespectful? I'm not trying to show up anywhere and cause issues.

As always, hit me with a PM if there's any info or perspectives I can provide for you.

I live over in K'zoo and frequent Angles all the time. Day shift fan, as it's the easiest time to get away without questions from wife. Extra's virtually impossible to get over here. I've had a few OTC's with my fav regulars though, but nothing ITC. Thinking of venturing over to the East side. Been reading the boards here quite a bit and kinda have an idea of where to go, but would love your opinions. I'm in my 50's, clean cut white businessman. On a bit of a budget though (aren't we all these days). Max spend of about $$ 5 all in. Drinks, house fees, dances, extras. My question is how do the fees break down in most of these places? Room fee? Door guy? Avg drink cost? And once you negotiate a deal with the lady, is that a flat fee regardless of the number of dances or is there a per dance cost also? I need lots of build up / foreplay. So it'd be probably a 4-5 dance session.

Thanks for the help guys.