WYP, SA, and other SD sites

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/45a7d4e6-457a-4461-9c86-9e956c922d10[/URL]

Planning a meet soon. I see she's long timer on SA (since 2016) Seems pretty broad minded. Anyone has an experience?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/98af64d9-bbd5-43b7-9b93-07da93405558[/URL]

I know she's reviewed a lot in this forum. Will go considering she's a pro. Anything latest on her?

—most of reports on this one are that she is a pretty unenthusiastic partner.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3d22da7f-70ba-4e13-970c-bf414ba1fa6b[/URL]

Looks incredibly hot. Haven't discussed the price yet.

—chatted with this one and got to texting, but hitting me up for funds for her mom and stuff like that, so a red flag.

[QUOTE=PilotJones;5760545]I've been banned for over 6 months now have attempted rejoining but every time they flag me even using a different card and different pics. Surely someone out there knows how to reverse this.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't discuss details on their message service. Exchange numbers (burner) and discuss there. That filters out the time wasters and anyone not ready to deal. Occasionally you'll get someone new to the game and will need to talk to warm them up. But keep it vanilla on the site.

Are.

There are a lot of hurdles.

1st VPN or new internet provider.

2nd Vanilla credit card.

3rd new device (PC or phone that you haven't log into your old SA account).

4th New Email.

5th New pics that haven't been use before.

[QUOTE=PilotJones;5760545]I've been banned for over 6 months now have attempted rejoining but every time they flag me even using a different card and different pics. Surely someone out there knows how to reverse this.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx3Dg_igqVg[/URL]

It's a three minute video. In short:

*the founder of Seeking, Brendon Wade, is getting married.

*he's excessively emotional / serious about this.

*he's "transforming Seeking" (tomorrow, Feb 14) into a dating platform for success-minded individuals.

*they will shed the "Arrangement" part entirely.

Hard to say what this is going to mean in practice. "Officially" it feels like the same rules as before. But I anticipate increased crackdowns on forbidden verbiage, at a minimum.

Stay safe.

W.

Is she making him change it?

And it's been [URL]seeking.com[/URL] a while, the arrangement has been dropped from their branding a while.

Worst move was taking away the setting where the SBs could list their expectation level. Made it tougher to weed out the GPS.

He goes and gets his on the site and then c-blocks the rest of us haha.

[QUOTE=Whistles;5776524][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx3Dg_igqVg[/URL]

It's a three minute video. In short:

*the founder of Seeking, Brendon Wade, is getting married.

*he's excessively emotional / serious about this.

*he's "transforming Seeking" (tomorrow, Feb 14) into a dating platform for success-minded individuals.

*they will shed the "Arrangement" part entirely.

Hard to say what this is going to mean in practice. "Officially" it feels like the same rules as before. But I anticipate increased crackdowns on forbidden verbiage, at a minimum.

Stay safe.

W.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dc0f8504-fe4c-448c-9a92-49cbdfe888d1[/URL]

Iykyk.

I almost don't want to post her name, it takes half a page to clear up which one she is, ha. Is it crofton, CB, Brooklyn Park, millersville.

Interesting that she hasnt updated the fact that she is with child (and showing), will be quite the surprise for a SD that meets her

[QUOTE=Mongerian;5777381][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dc0f8504-fe4c-448c-9a92-49cbdfe888d1[/URL]

Iykyk.

I almost don't want to post her name, it takes half a page to clear up which one she is, ha. Is it crofton, CB, Brooklyn Park, millersville.

Interesting that she hasnt updated the fact that she is with child (and showing), will be quite the surprise for a SD that meets her[/QUOTE]Spotted this a month ago when it popped up. Was pretty sure it was her even though I don't think I was lurking back when she still posted ads. Wondered when someone else would take note, or more importantly, when someone would do so publicly, because I wasn't about to say anything. I'm surprised she logged back in, frankly; never responded to me.

[QUOTE=Mongerian;5777381][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dc0f8504-fe4c-448c-9a92-49cbdfe888d1[/URL]

Iykyk.

I almost don't want to post her name, it takes half a page to clear up which one she is, ha. Is it crofton, CB, Brooklyn Park, millersville.

Interesting that she hasnt updated the fact that she is with child (and showing), will be quite the surprise for a SD that meets her.[/QUOTE]This one? - [URL]https://tryst.link/escort/amanda-891[/URL].

[QUOTE=Mongerian;5777381][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dc0f8504-fe4c-448c-9a92-49cbdfe888d1[/URL]

Iykyk.

I almost don't want to post her name, it takes half a page to clear up which one she is, ha. Is it crofton, CB, Brooklyn Park, millersville.

Interesting that she hasnt updated the fact that she is with child (and showing), will be quite the surprise for a SD that meets her[/QUOTE]LOL, yes, CB bri, curtis bay bri, aka no crofton bree, or breezy bree.

[QUOTE=Mongerian;5777111]Is she making him change it?

And it's been [URL]seeking.com[/URL] a while, the arrangement has been dropped from their branding a while.

Worst move was taking away the setting where the SBs could list their expectation level. Made it tougher to weed out the GPS.

He goes and gets his on the site and then c-blocks the rest of us haha.[/QUOTE]He lost me when they moved messaging to behind the paywall.

[QUOTE=Whistles;5776524][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx3Dg_igqVg[/URL]

It's a three minute video. In short:

*the founder of Seeking, Brendon Wade, is getting married.

*he's excessively emotional / serious about this.

*he's "transforming Seeking" (tomorrow, Feb 14) into a dating platform for success-minded individuals.

*they will shed the "Arrangement" part entirely.

Hard to say what this is going to mean in practice. "Officially" it feels like the same rules as before. But I anticipate increased crackdowns on forbidden verbiage, at a minimum.

Stay safe.

W.[/QUOTE]Ok let me get this right? You meet a girl of your sight now your mindset is different. You getting married no pre-nup at all and you changing the name? Ok he is either.

A P88 ywhipped.

B A straight simp.

C. Trying to maybe dodge some type of Fed regulations.

D All of the above LOL I'm not buying that he just all of a sudden CHANGED I guarantee that once things get legal it won't last but maybe two years and she going to take him to the cleaners.

[QUOTE=MotoMoto11;5780898]Ok let me get this right? You meet a girl of your sight now your mindset is different. You getting married no pre-nup at all and you changing the name? Ok he is either.

A P88 ywhipped.

B A straight simp.

C. Trying to maybe dodge some type of Fed regulations.

D All of the above LOL I'm not buying that he just all of a sudden CHANGED I guarantee that once things get legal it won't last but maybe two years and she going to take him to the cleaners.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure any of us should be surprised by the depths of such foolishness. Even if she does take him for a ride, I still bad for HER, not him. Just look at the fucking guy.

[QUOTE=MotoMoto11;5780898]Ok let me get this right? You meet a girl of your sight now your mindset is different. You getting married no pre-nup at all and you changing the name? Ok he is either.

A P88 ywhipped.

B A straight simp.

C. Trying to maybe dodge some type of Fed regulations.

D All of the above LOL I'm not buying that he just all of a sudden CHANGED I guarantee that once things get legal it won't last but maybe two years and she going to take him to the cleaners.[/QUOTE]More likely it's just about marketing and money, as it is for most businesses. Quick google search estimates SA revenue (not income) $30-40 million / year. Match revenue, $2. 8 billion. Hard to find good current info, but they estimate 22 million members. In 2012 Wade himself estimated SA had 10 million members, 8 million SB, 2 million SD. Revenue was $10 million. SA was grossing an average of $5/ SD per year.

I've been curious about the SB scene, but most things I read on this forum are not likely to convince me to switch to a paying account. And if anything, sounds like things are getting worse. Its just my opinion, but I suspect that paying memberships are declining.

This Wade guy has a pretty impressive background. MIT, software engineer, Booz Allen. He's trying to leverage SA into a more lucrative market. Who knows, maybe he would like to be bought out. Hopefully not much changes on the SD-SB side, maybe appearing to be more mainstream brings in new members who are intrigued by the more risqu aspect of SB, but we're previously hesitant to join. To the guys who have paid memberships, are there any changes indicating they are trying to actually restrict SD / SB activities? Great he found love, whatever. Probably didn't have a prenup in his first marriage and needs the money. She probably got half of SA, LOL. Tell me about it. As in most things, follow the money.

[QUOTE=BMax986;5781078]More likely it's just about marketing and money, as it is for most businesses. Quick google search estimates SA revenue (not income) $30-40 million / year. Match revenue, $2. 8 billion. Hard to find good current info, but they estimate 22 million members. In 2012 Wade himself estimated SA had 10 million members, 8 million SB, 2 million SD. Revenue was $10 million. SA was grossing an average of $5/ SD per year.

I've been curious about the SB scene, but most things I read on this forum are not likely to convince me to switch to a paying account. And if anything, sounds like things are getting worse. Its just my opinion, but I suspect that paying memberships are declining.

This Wade guy has a pretty impressive background. MIT, software engineer, Booz Allen. He's trying to leverage SA into a more lucrative market. Who knows, maybe he would like to be bought out. Hopefully not much changes on the SD-SB side, maybe appearing to be more mainstream brings in new members who are intrigued by the more risqu aspect of SB, but we're previously hesitant to join. To the guys who have paid memberships, are there any changes indicating they are trying to actually restrict SD / SB activities? Great he found love, whatever. Probably didn't have a prenup in his first marriage and needs the money. She probably got half of SA, LOL. Tell me about it. As in most things, follow the money.[/QUOTE]Seeking has been trying to bill my credit card (pre-paid with a zero balance so good luck. Hahaha) for two months now, even though I canceled! Incredibly shady. I think the price increase really hurt them, as members dropped off.

I got multiple messages trying to convince me to re-up before the price increase. Then this month they started offering a 25% discount for Valentines day. Still a NO from me dog. Then I get a message yesterday that I can still get the 25% discount is I act immediately. Smells of desperation.

Then today when I log into my backup account, several weird things happen. 1) No challenge to my using an incognito browser. Previously as part of their increased "security" I had to verify with a code when logging in from a masked browser. 2) I immediately got a pop-up offering a 33% discount on a membership. Still a no.

I think they are having serious financial issues. The site has gone way downhill from 2015 When I joined for a month and had great success. Oh well.

Norm!!

Some of the changes that have caused the site to get stricter were likely to attract more SBs. Things like getting super strict with banning members for payment talk. Preventing SDs from requesting pics without payment, etc etc. Problem though, the issue isn't a safety one. It's financial. Labor market is tight. 2 solid rotation members from my squad got real professional jobs and are now too busy to meet regularly. Student loans have been on pause for months. Young college coeds who just graduated are living with their parents and don't need to pay loans and are finding real work with mass boomer retirements, lower immigration, or dropping out of the labor force counting the stacks of cash they made selling NFTs or investing in ethereum in 2018.

Seeking is left with dregs now. Without the young coeds who needed cash to go out (and that's dropped off as well with travel restrictions so ladies aren't interested as much in traveling and don't need the same kind of funds to go out with COVID travel restrictions in place) SDs aren't joining in the same numbers.

It's all a negative feedback loop. And it's unlikely to get better. Also, good luck getting bought out. Publicly traded companies are not going to touch seeking with a 20 foot pole. Matt Gaetz helped kill the possibility of any potential buyout.

What Brandon Wade needs is what the US economy needs, which is for the Fed to invert the yield curve and force folks back into the labor market while crushing asset prices. Turning student loan payments back on won't hurt either. If all that happens, then SBs will start flicking back to the site, and Brandon will be back in business since all the mongers on these sites will stop bitching about how bad the site has become, but will instead be posting about the hot SB who was willing to take 1/2 the allowance the last SB wanted since competition in the bowl has become so fierce. The advertising campaign will literally be all us mongers posting here.

[QUOTE=NormGerd;5781655]Seeking has been trying to bill my credit card (pre-paid with a zero balance so good luck. Hahaha) for two months now, even though I canceled! Incredibly shady. I think the price increase really hurt them, as members dropped off.

I got multiple messages trying to convince me to re-up before the price increase. Then this month they started offering a 25% discount for Valentines day. Still a NO from me dog. Then I get a message yesterday that I can still get the 25% discount is I act immediately. Smells of desperation.

Then today when I log into my backup account, several weird things happen. 1) No challenge to my using an incognito browser. Previously as part of their increased "security" I had to verify with a code when logging in from a masked browser. 2) I immediately got a pop-up offering a 33% discount on a membership. Still a no.

I think they are having serious financial issues. The site has gone way downhill from 2015 When I joined for a month and had great success. Oh well.

Norm!![/QUOTE]