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[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188557410.html[/URL]
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Any information on this place or provider?
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188557410.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=CloeStone;3440411]Any information on this place or provider?
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188557410.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I was wondering if the lady in the picture is really there?
Please advise if anyone went to this place.
[QUOTE=Russo;3440336]I was told she was Vietnamese. What kind of Asian is she? I always thought she was Thai. Damn I suck at judging what Asian race people are.[/QUOTE]I been quiet all this time but now I got to speak out. A lot of these pics are pirated from WeChat and one in particular I KNOW THE GIRL PERSONALLY. She is NOT a provider, never was, and SHAME on the advertisers of this ad for stealing her pics. The One pic the girl being held by the hand leading someone down the beach? That's from this one Girls WeChat who's part of a multilevel that's popular with the Chinese women, called World Ventures (WV). I was introduced to it by a nice lady from China and her friends and business participants are on WeChat a lot promoting their business. These girls would be PISSED their pics are being used for advertising at CC.
I'd assume all, all of these pics on this ad are stolen and FAKE. Fake fake fake.
Sorry to burst your bubble but I can't take this WeChat pic stealing anymore! MAJOR AUWE!
PM me if you like.
DaDrifter.
[QUOTE=HawaiiDrifter;3440497]I been quiet all this time but now I got to speak out. A lot of these pics are pirated from WeChat and one in particular I KNOW THE GIRL PERSONALLY. She is NOT a provider, never was, and SHAME on the advertisers of this ad for stealing her pics. The One pic the girl being held by the hand leading someone down the beach? That's from this one Girls WeChat who's part of a multilevel that's popular with the Chinese women, called World Ventures (WV). I was introduced to it by a nice lady from China and her friends and business participants are on WeChat a lot promoting their business. These girls would be PISSED their pics are being used for advertising at CC.
I'd assume all, all of these pics on this ad are stolen and FAKE. Fake fake fake.
Sorry to burst your bubble but I can't take this WeChat pic stealing anymore! MAJOR AUWE!
PM me if you like.
DaDrifter.[/QUOTE]Huge number of fake pics going around because of summer time right now on every site. I'm not trusting anything now unless its a photo of a girl with a recent newspaper.
[QUOTE=HawaiiDrifter;3440497]I been quiet all this time but now I got to speak out. A lot of these pics are pirated from WeChat and one in particular I KNOW THE GIRL PERSONALLY. She is NOT a provider, never was, and SHAME on the advertisers of this ad for stealing her pics. The One pic the girl being held by the hand leading someone down the beach? That's from this one Girls WeChat who's part of a multilevel that's popular with the Chinese women, called World Ventures (WV). I was introduced to it by a nice lady from China and her friends and business participants are on WeChat a lot promoting their business. These girls would be PISSED their pics are being used for advertising at CC.
I'd assume all, all of these pics on this ad are stolen and FAKE. Fake fake fake.
Sorry to burst your bubble but I can't take this WeChat pic stealing anymore! MAJOR AUWE!
PM me if you like.
DaDrifter.[/QUOTE]Your absolutely right winnah it's not right that these providers steal pics from other women to try and pass it off themselves. It does more damage then good IMHO. I understand that they want to hide their very own identity to not be recognized as a provider but not it's damaging the reputation of an innocent bystander. Let's not forget the complete waste of time that the clients go through to TOFTT because no reviews are made in them only to find out that they are nothing like what the photos appear. It's bad for business and it's morally wrong. I never understood what's so hard about using your real pictures and hiding identifying marks and face. It's not hard really. I mean shit spas photo shop ads all the time. Not hard to cut your face out. Idk sorry guys I wish I knew how to get around this but there's really no way.
[QUOTE=FCH300;3439844]Link to her BP ad as requested:
[URL]http://honolulu.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/forget-about-the-rest-lets-try-the-best/5608726[/URL][/QUOTE]Ok that's her # but the pictures are not her and she's still at CC on 13th floor.
Is this the same Utopia that HeeJin (used to run in CC? It may be my eyes, but I can't see a phone number on the ad to call.
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188725132.html[/URL]
Also, is this the Mei (Meii) that was also in CC?
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188720869.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Magnod;3440583]Is this the same Utopia that HeeJin (used to run in CC? It may be my eyes, but I can't see a phone number on the ad to call.
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188725132.html[/URL]
Also, is this the Mei (Meii) that was also in CC?
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188720869.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Did a search of the top ad and referenced the number to the ad via pressing the reply tab and it came up with Thai Issan.
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188725132.html[/URL]
M.
I know this is late notice, but I have a job on Hinton st tomorrow. Wondering when the very closest place would be to get a massage and HE during lunch break. Any recommendations?
[QUOTE=Magnod;3440583]Is this the same Utopia that HeeJin (used to run in CC? It may be my eyes, but I can't see a phone number on the ad to call.
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188725132.html[/URL]
Also, is this the Mei (Meii) that was also in CC?
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188720869.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mongerholic;3440587]Did a search of the top ad and referenced the number to the ad via pressing the reply tab and it came up with Thai Issan.
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188725132.html[/URL]
M.[/QUOTE]The address for this place is Samsung Plaza, 655 Keeaumoku. Thai Issan had two places there, but I think they are closed. Thai Issan owner Jennifer opened a massage school on King St. This new Utopia Massage place likely occupies one of the former Thai Issan places.
[QUOTE=Russo;3440336]I was told she was Vietnamese. What kind of Asian is she? I always thought she was Thai. Damn I suck at judging what Asian race people are.[/QUOTE]If this is the same short cute juggy girl from 1002 who used to go by Angie, Jenny, Tiffany etc, she is Viet Thai. She can read Vietnamese.
[QUOTE=WomenLover2;3440491]I was wondering if the lady in the picture is really there?
Please advise if anyone went to this place.[/QUOTE]Made appointment with lady on the ad. Got there then told me she went home. WTF I left after. I confirmed 1 hour before my appointment so I told her why didn't you tell me then.
Can anyone tell me who this is? Any action from her?
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188727709.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=PunaniLuva;3441261]Can anyone tell me who this is? Any action from her?
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188727709.html[/URL][/QUOTE]It's Vera. Lame message with HJ HE. Really old picture. She's added weight since then.
No plans to repeat.
[QUOTE=JennaDean;3440535]Your absolutely right winnah it's not right that these providers steal pics from other women to try and pass it off themselves. It does more damage then good IMHO. I understand that they want to hide their very own identity to not be recognized as a provider but not it's damaging the reputation of an innocent bystander. Let's not forget the complete waste of time that the clients go through to TOFTT because no reviews are made in them only to find out that they are nothing like what the photos appear. It's bad for business and it's morally wrong. I never understood what's so hard about using your real pictures and hiding identifying marks and face. It's not hard really. I mean shit spas photo shop ads all the time. Not hard to cut your face out. Idk sorry guys I wish I knew how to get around this but there's really no way.[/QUOTE]When I'm on Oahu I avoid CC. I been victimized by Bait and Switch (total BS for anyone been subjected to it) so many times there, just gave up! I stick to TS and Sanho work OK. I can pick my "friend" for the hour, LOL! End result we want is a good time with comfort and a smile, and CC makes me cringe now. There's a legit family who lives there, I had to go there to meet them and drop something off, and I was accosted by all the ladies seeking massage clients in the lobby (that's when they had those nasty 1970's chairs outside the lobby elevators), "you want massagy? Here my number," like piranhas or barracudas. Broken English, most in their late 30's thru early 50's, yellow crooked teeth and bad makeup covering their true age. No thanks.
Oh that reminds me, one of those ladies actually followed me into the elevator, and try to get me to go with her to her floor? I don't remember if it was the 14th or 16th floor. I was like uh I'm busy now!
Their reference to "BOOM BOOM" is somewhat unsettling, I remember my grandfather talking about Vietnamese hookers saying that! "GI YOU LIKEY BOOM BOOM? MEESA LOVEY YOU LONG TIME!" Bizarre that the "MT's" at CC say that regularly. They hang together and teach each other huh? HAH!
Some fun to be had with some genuine girls maybe and I've come across a handful while I was doing rail construction and living on Oahu, but it's hard to get the same girl if you find one you like and is pretty etc. ! Don't get to Oahu a lot now the construction been passed over to another company, but ya when on Oahu, CC is very low on my list!
The pic problem has always been there, MP's done that forever, use Asian model pics etc, but for me it struck a nerve and hit home when I saw a WeChat pal who's in WV on the ad! I was like WHAT! I also seen a few others pics being used from WeChat Sorry if I came off sounding grouchy or if I was off topic. Had to break radio silence! The CC mamas have to relook at their current business model. It's discouraging!
I get more of a thrill meeting Japanese ladies in Hilo, one comes back every year and we have fun, she's married and travels alone, HAH! Only thing she no like is the freaking coqui when she sleeps over. Anyways. I try avoid the crap shoot that now is CC!
DaDrifter.
Is she on the 2nd floor?
[QUOTE=Uconninhawaii;3441289]It's Vera. Lame message with HJ HE. Really old picture. She's added weight since then.
No plans to repeat.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HawaiiDrifter;3440497]I been quiet all this time but now I got to speak out. A lot of these pics are pirated from WeChat and one in particular I KNOW THE GIRL PERSONALLY. She is NOT a provider, never was, and SHAME on the advertisers of this ad for stealing her pics. The One pic the girl being held by the hand leading someone down the beach? That's from this one Girls WeChat who's part of a multilevel that's popular with the Chinese women, called World Ventures (WV). I was introduced to it by a nice lady from China and her friends and business participants are on WeChat a lot promoting their business. These girls would be PISSED their pics are being used for advertising at CC.
I'd assume all, all of these pics on this ad are stolen and FAKE. Fake fake fake.
Sorry to burst your bubble but I can't take this WeChat pic stealing anymore! MAJOR AUWE!
PM me if you like.
DaDrifter.[/QUOTE]Mia was known as Nikki at 1508 before working for Tammy. She then wanted her hours so she could get her license. Tammy declined her proof of work. Nikki goes and gets her MT [URL]license.Com[/URL]es back work for a Chinese guy them goes Indie. She has relatives on the Windward side and use to live in Kalihi. She drives a white Nissan Altima and usually comes to pick up her laundry between 9 pm and 10. She usually works out in the mens 4th floor weight room, but I think she stopped because she's getting her cardio in now LOL She always has snacks in her appt, and looks very innocent LOL.
[QUOTE=PunaniLuva;3441301]Is she on the 2nd floor?[/QUOTE]Vera always posts OLD photos. If she posted real up to date ones not too many customers. Works for the HE until she gets too old for this profession.
[QUOTE=PunaniLuva;3441301]Is she on the 2nd floor?[/QUOTE]Maybe 24th?
Never ever done any type of massage and received a HE is love to do one but don't want to waste time or money. Can anyone recommend someone that offers good massage as well as BJ HE? Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=RajahBrah1996;3441415]Never ever done any type of massage and received a HE is love to do one but don't want to waste time or money. Can anyone recommend someone that offers good massage as well as BJ HE? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Reasonable massage and world class BBBJ from Kiki or Momo at K's Clover.
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188553290.html[/URL]
Middle aged Chinese with big tits you can play with or nibble on. FS is sometimes on the table as well.
BBBJ is as good as they get.
Good choice if the HE is the primary goal. Standard damages.
[QUOTE=RajahBrah1996;3441415]Never ever done any type of massage and received a HE is love to do one but don't want to waste time or money. Can anyone recommend someone that offers good massage as well as BJ HE? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]If you took the time to read through this thread, you would have your answer.
SOS Can someone PM me the contact info for Nico at Century Center? Cannot find the ad for her.
[QUOTE=PunaniLuva;3441261]Can anyone tell me who this is? Any action from her?
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188727709.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Only for guys she finds attractive.
[QUOTE=HMobius;3441772]Only for guys she finds attractive.[/QUOTE]By action, you mean HE right?
[QUOTE=SkylineChrome;3441387]Mia was known as Nikki at 1508 before working for Tammy. She then wanted her hours so she could get her license. Tammy declined her proof of work. Nikki goes and gets her MT [URL]license.Com[/URL]es back work for a Chinese guy them goes Indie. She has relatives on the Windward side and use to live in Kalihi. She drives a white Nissan Altima and usually comes to pick up her laundry between 9 pm and 10. She usually works out in the mens 4th floor weight room, but I think she stopped because she's getting her cardio in now LOL She always has snacks in her appt, and looks very innocent LOL.[/QUOTE]Forgot that she also got married recently guys.
[QUOTE=HMobius;3441772]Only for guys she finds attractive.[/QUOTE]Concur.
And I ain't one of them. LOL!
[URL]http://honolulu.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/good-therapeutic-massage-96701/7183323[/URL]
Went to see Emma. Fantastic! Just what I have been trying to find. Best massage I have ever had. Ever. Did the 90 minutes and her hands were on me the whole time. Deep, hard massage. No chit chat. Great, subtle, sensual finish. Shower before and after. I will be repeating. Often.
[QUOTE=CloeStone;3440386]This link is for Mia. She is a sweetheart and great provider with many posts and comments to confirm this. IMHO, she understands what men are looking for and delivers in her own nice style. After speaking with her, she informed me that her Nationality was Thai, yet she was raised in the US and does not know much about the Thai Culture and does not speak Thai. She is an American Girl with Thai Heritage. Is is good to see that the sexuality of a Thai girl comes through, even if she is not actually from Thailand.
Just to add a great note. I went for a massage a few weeks back and it turned out to be a legit experience, great massage with no HE. Prior to leaving CC, I called Mia. She was luckily available on immediate notice. I explained that lack of HE and she immediately went down on me and provided a perfect BBBJCIM. I washed off and was on my way. As I stated, she understands what men want, if you are honest with yourself and her.[/QUOTE]Times.
Read your post three times.
Thank you.
Very much.
Is a sweetheart. At least that's my experience with her.
VietFunGuy, as I mentioned in a previous posting, April was a disappointment to me. Her extra gratuity fees are a joke. Certainly not worth the time and massage services. In addition to the 0. 6 standard house fee, this wanker wanted $ for wanking while fully clothed (touch permitted over her top blouse only) or $. 5 for taking off her top to wank me. She is not worth no $$. 1 to please me while other providers I know are within reason. As other mongers have mentioned, she is all about money.
[QUOTE=VietFunGuy;3429813]I saw her 4 time last time she come here. She a hottie brah. Face is smokin to me. I know I say before when she here but she the hot little Thai!
She don't do naked but you can get to that rack.
Sorry my English still a little bad. But she my addiction last time. I got to appointment tomorrow and Friday haha. But she that hot to me.
Peace and joy my bro.[/QUOTE]
I decided to get a late night rub few days ago. Saw Kay's craigslist add for CC 2nd floor. She looked good in the pic, so I made an appointment and headed over. I parked offsite and walked over. You have to take the elevator up to get to that side, after 10 pm I think. Anyway was greeted by a young provider who walked me in. This looks to be a shared location with a common area full of shrine looking ornaments. Kay was busy with a client so I waited a min. She pops her head out and walks me to another room, told to undress and lay on table. I could hear some chatter in the main room, and I figured it was about who would massage me. After about 10 min. In walks a young Chinese girl, NOT Kay, with her phone and purse in hand like she just arrived. I peak up and notice she looks familiar. At this point I'm pissed for falling for a bait and switch for the 2nd time in a month. She starts with a probing / poking massage then asked if I want oil. I say yes, and she begins to drench my back. Once again this seems familiar. Then it starts. Phone rings, she chats for a sec the stops. While massaging my back, I feel only one hand and she becomes lazy. I felt her phone drop down between my feet and she begins with one hand. Without even looking I could tell she was texting. I calmly say "too much phone" and she makes some remark about everyone calling her. Massage is lame, and we get to the flip. She begins with the standard questions about when last I came, etc. Little does she know, I now recognize her from a bad experience I posted last year at Cute Spa, her name then was Linda. She motions for HE and asks me how much I will tip. I tell her normal amount, yet she persists. I am getting pissed, as she is still looking at her phone. She mentioned $. 2 and I nod. She receives about 4 text w / sound during the HE and I make a point to let her know I am not happy. After the finish, no hot towel, just a large shower towel to dry up the mess. I am disgusted at this point. I get up dress and tell her never again with her. She gets upset and says it's fine if I ask for another girl next time.
I have now had two horrible sessions with this girl, and never again. As I walk out I tell Kay, NO CELL PHONES. She replies with some kind of understanding, but basically careless as she already got paid. Probably won't return.
[QUOTE=BlkPatriot;3442991]I decided to get a late night rub few days ago. Saw Kay's craigslist add for CC 2nd floor. She looked good in the pic, so I made an appointment and headed over. I parked offsite and walked over. You have to take the elevator up to get to that side, after 10 pm I think. Anyway was greeted by a young provider who walked me in. This looks to be a shared location with a common area full of shrine looking ornaments. Kay was busy with a client so I waited a min. She pops her head out and walks me to another room, told to undress and lay on table. I could hear some chatter in the main room, and I figured it was about who would massage me. After about 10 min. In walks a young Chinese girl, NOT Kay, with her phone and purse in hand like she just arrived. I peak up and notice she looks familiar. At this point I'm pissed for falling for a bait and switch for the 2nd time in a month. She starts with a probing / poking massage then asked if I want oil. I say yes, and she begins to drench my back. Once again this seems familiar. Then it starts. Phone rings, she chats for a sec the stops. While massaging my back, I feel only one hand and she becomes lazy. I felt her phone drop down between my feet and she begins with one hand. Without even looking I could tell she was texting. I calmly say "too much phone" and she makes some remark about everyone calling her. Massage is lame, and we get to the flip. She begins with the standard questions about when last I came, etc. Little does she know, I now recognize her from a bad experience I posted last year at Cute Spa, her name then was Linda. She motions for HE and asks me how much I will tip. I tell her normal amount, yet she persists. I am getting pissed, as she is still looking at her phone. She mentioned $. 2 and I nod. She receives about 4 text w / sound during the HE and I make a point to let her know I am not happy. After the finish, no hot towel, just a large shower towel to dry up the mess. I am disgusted at this point. I get up dress and tell her never again with her. She gets upset and says it's fine if I ask for another girl next time.
I have now had two horrible sessions with this girl, and never again. As I walk out I tell Kay, NO CELL PHONES. She replies with some kind of understanding, but basically careless as she already got paid. Probably won't return.[/QUOTE]Scanning Craigslist and recognized her face instantly. If you guys want a half ass oil drenched rub with frequent stops for cell phone this is your girl.
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6190484519.html[/URL]
I spose each there own.
But I love me a 90 lb spinner with huge cans. She treatin me good, no problem eitjbtip, but YMMV I guess. I'm going to go back tomorrow. Sorry you 2 didn't click brah. A little reasoning is workin 4 dis brah. Wish I could one like this to snag. Good luck friends. Maybe try just bein a regular guy. Happiness to all
[QUOTE=Bachlan;3442919]VietFunGuy, as I mentioned in a previous posting, April was a disappointment to me. Her extra gratuity fees are a joke. Certainly not worth the time and massage services. In addition to the 0. 6 standard house fee, this wanker wanted $ for wanking while fully clothed (touch permitted over her top blouse only) or $. 5 for taking off her top to wank me. She is not worth no $$. 1 to please me while other providers I know are within reason. As other mongers have mentioned, she is all about money.[/QUOTE].
Anyone tried here??
[URL]http://honolulu.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/the-sisters-first-time-hiwaii-century-center/6928788[/URL]
[QUOTE=FCH300;3441587]Reasonable massage and world class BBBJ from Kiki or Momo at K's Clover.
[URL]https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/thp/6188553290.html[/URL]
Middle aged Chinese with big tits you can play with or nibble on. FS is sometimes on the table as well.
BBBJ is as good as they get.
Good choice if the HE is the primary goal. Standard damages.[/QUOTE]I concur, and Momo will be back soon. BBBJCIM.
Flesh.
[QUOTE=Licentious;3439806]Did you go to this place?
You asked for more?
No extras?[/QUOTE]Total legit, no extras. Good massage, foot massage, new and very clean. Worth the 20% off.
Flesh.
[QUOTE=Fleshlight;3432792][URL]http://honolulu.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/real-sexy-beauty-to-please-you-come-to-see-me-100-real-pic/3283363[/URL]
So went back to Selina's place to check out this provider again. Last time I did her, I asked about a threesome, and they said they would do it. So saved up some mula and went for it. Started off with 4 hand nude massage. Since I told them we were going for it, I told them to all just get naked.
Short massage as I was to damn horny to wait. Had both of them oiled down eachother when they massaged me. Went for some double CBJ, which was nice. This was only my second threesome in a long time, so I was thinking about some PSE action, but was kinda worked up to try anykind of crazy shit.
They said to pay more for some lesibian action, so I opted not to. Just double CBJ, than had them side by side DATY. Made them both cum, then went into some multiple positions. Had them lay back side by side mish, while I had them suck and play with eachother's tits. Than had them side by side standing K9. Then finished with K9/69, so that one girl could watch from underneath as I pounded away. LOL Everything covered. Was a pretty nuts experience. Wish I could do more BB stuff but they said no.
$. 50 each girl and talked her into one. 50 house fee instead of two. So $$$.50 total. Wasn't rushed. Will repeat, and maybe pay more for some lesbo action next time.
Flesh.[/QUOTE]Anyone else sampled the three way. I've done it before, but it's been a while. Would like to try it again.
Buka.
[QUOTE=Fleshlight;3443156]I concur, and Momo will be back soon. BBBJCIM.
Flesh.[/QUOTE]Can you tell me who is Kiki in photos and who is Momo?
Is it 150 for massage and BBBJCIM with roaming? And is FS available?
[QUOTE=BlkPatriot;3442991]I decided to get a late night rub few days ago. Saw Kay's craigslist add for CC 2nd floor. She looked good in the pic, so I made an appointment and headed over. I parked offsite and walked over. You have to take the elevator up to get to that side, after 10 pm I think. Anyway was greeted by a young provider who walked me in. This looks to be a shared location with a common area full of shrine looking ornaments. Kay was busy with a client so I waited a min. She pops her head out and walks me to another room, told to undress and lay on table. I could hear some chatter in the main room, and I figured it was about who would massage me. After about 10 min. In walks a young Chinese girl, NOT Kay, with her phone and purse in hand like she just arrived. I peak up and notice she looks familiar. At this point I'm pissed for falling for a bait and switch for the 2nd time in a month. She starts with a probing / poking massage then asked if I want oil. I say yes, and she begins to drench my back. Once again this seems familiar. Then it starts. Phone rings, she chats for a sec the stops. While massaging my back, I feel only one hand and she becomes lazy. I felt her phone drop down between my feet and she begins with one hand. Without even looking I could tell she was texting. I calmly say "too much phone" and she makes some remark about everyone calling her. Massage is lame, and we get to the flip. She begins with the standard questions about when last I came, etc. Little does she know, I now recognize her from a bad experience I posted last year at Cute Spa, her name then was Linda. She motions for HE and asks me how much I will tip. I tell her normal amount, yet she persists. I am getting pissed, as she is still looking at her phone. She mentioned $. 2 and I nod. She receives about 4 text w / sound during the HE and I make a point to let her know I am not happy. After the finish, no hot towel, just a large shower towel to dry up the mess. I am disgusted at this point. I get up dress and tell her never again with her. She gets upset and says it's fine if I ask for another girl next time.
I have now had two horrible sessions with this girl, and never again. As I walk out I tell Kay, NO CELL PHONES. She replies with some kind of understanding, but basically careless as she already got paid. Probably won't return.[/QUOTE]That's the reason why I boycott her place after being a loyal customer for years.