Korean Bar Reports

[QUOTE=Jj6969;1169354]Went to Kools one night and I saw a girl smoking outside of the bar called Islander. She looked like Sonya, so you might want to try there.[/QUOTE]I am almost certain that was her.

[QUOTE=SN8K01;1170622]Congratulations to the raffle winner at Winner8 last night. I wasn't there but heard about it from a coworker that knows the winner.[/QUOTE]Say, you wouldn't happen to be a friend of Tammy mama would you? Just wondering about the congratulatory post here instead of telling your coworker to congratulate the 'winner'. Unless you knew he / she was a forum reader. I'm sorry for asking as seemed a little strange so forgive me if I was just being paranoid for nothing.

[QUOTE=SN8K01;1170636]Congratulations to the raffle winner at Winner8 last night. I wasn't there but heard about it from a coworker that knows the winner.[/QUOTE]Must have been a set up. I've seen it too many times, BF will complain,"you know how much I when spend, and I not going win nothing?" LOL

[QUOTE=Warrior12; 1171368]Typically the bargirl will collect tickets and give them to the poor sap that happens to still be there when the drawing happens. The winner may end up the loser at it will cost him a bottle for his girl and drinks for the mama & crew.

I was at Secret one time when I told Lilly to give my ticket away. It would have cost me more to win the grand prize of $500. Screw that shit.[/QUOTE]I thought LC said these were illegal? No ticket parties allowed in bars?

[QUOTE=Mogo Master;1171381]I am almost certain that was her.[/QUOTE]Thanks JJ and MM. I'll go check it out. Anyone know of good day bartenders that give decent service and not bitchy and old like the ones I see lately? Aint looking for play girls, just someplace can relax and not get bothered with buy me drink but can have an intelligent convo if in the mood. Say what you will about Sonya but except when she's wasted, she's a good bartender.

[QUOTE=Oldman67;1171079]BG did not win her customer did.[/QUOTE]I've seen where a reqular customer that spends a lot of money doesn't have to be present to win the big prizes. Mama just gives the BG the ticket to hold so when the drawing is held, it just looks like the BG won. They hate giving the big prizes to guys that just walk in or don't spend a lot of money.

[QUOTE=Jj6969;1171419]I've seen where a reqular customer that spends a lot of money doesn't have to be present to win the big prizes. Mama just gives the BG the ticket to hold so when the drawing is held, it just looks like the BG won. They hate giving the big prizes to guys that just walk in or don't spend a lot of money.[/QUOTE]One of the few reasons why nekohanas are no-nos for me now. Almost everything the BGs do are scripted; make that everything. Go drink KB but boycott the nekos.

[QUOTE=Oldee;1171413]Thanks JJ and MM. I'll go check it out. Anyone know of good day bartenders that give decent service and not bitchy and old like the ones I see lately? Aint looking for play girls, just someplace can relax and not get bothered with buy me drink but can have an intelligent convo if in the mood. Say what you will about Sonya but except when she's wasted, she's a good bartender.[/QUOTE]Kim, MS is great at Fire and Ice. Waiakamilo. She speaks english pretty well. Been around to many KB's with the intent of opening her own someday and she did. Does not play. But great convo.

She bartends durning the day when not playing golf.

[QUOTE=Oldee;1171413]Thanks JJ and MM. I'll go check it out. Anyone know of good day bartenders that give decent service and not bitchy and old like the ones I see lately? Aint looking for play girls, just someplace can relax and not get bothered with buy me drink but can have an intelligent convo if in the mood. Say what you will about Sonya but except when she's wasted, she's a good bartender.[/QUOTE]The place I like to go to when all I want is intelligent convo with a hot chick is Paris Ultra lounge. No play there, but the girls are friendly and hotter than most "club girls" they give me an inside look at the mind of a party girl.

[QUOTE=NinjaLurker; 1171692]Kim, MS is great at Fire and Ice. Waiakamilo. She speaks english pretty well. Been around to many KB's with the intent of opening her own someday and she did. Does not play. But great convo.

She bartends durning the day when not playing golf.[/QUOTE]Hmmmm Fire and Ice True but think about it no play inside there? They have 2 section of the bar. One side is pretty isolated from the crowd and the other side is where the bar is. OK no play. Hmmm they do have a bedroom upstairs?

MS can always make it look great and no play. To fool the LC,

While drinking recently, I been observing kbgirls STILL havnt learned basic manners and they wonder why the bars are slow or they don't get repeat customers. I see the Yaa! Yaa! Yelling at customers or other kbg, not caring that it upsets the mood. The 'its so slow so you need to buy me gl drink', or 'you didn't come long time so you need to take care me good tonite. ' There many variations of this as most of you know. One that is particularly rude is the interuption mid convo with your partner by a bg or mama to help rip off some other customers or tag team a group that requests the hot girls. Luckily, my partners always refuse as I don't stand for that shit or maybe they don't like the other bg, hehe. Sometimes they'll translate for me, 'can you babysit my regular while I go big spender table? ' Many variations of this too. Hey girls, you need to learn EXCUSE ME FOR INTERUPTING, MAY I TAIK TO YOUR PARTNER? Then I'd say NO! And interupting us is rude! Na. Na, only wishing could say that cause no kbg ever asked permission, at least seriously anyway. The hitting with slapping or punching of customers that didn't grab ass or touch the girl. The you need to move table' with no sorry, bartender moves your beer and says move over there, I need to make room. If you buy drinks for any of these girls, you are buying for bg with NO CLASS. There is much more. What are the rudeness stuff that bugs you guys?

[QUOTE=Oldee;1172405]While drinking recently, I been observing kbgirls STILL havnt learned basic manners and they wonder why the bars are slow or they don't get repeat customers. I see the Yaa! Yaa! Yelling at customers or other kbg, not caring that it upsets the mood. The 'its so slow so you need to buy me gl drink', or 'you didn't come long time so you need to take care me good tonite. ' There many variations of this as most of you know. One that is particularly rude is the interuption mid convo with your partner by a bg or mama to help rip off some other customers or tag team a group that requests the hot girls. Luckily, my partners always refuse as I don't stand for that shit or maybe they don't like the other bg, hehe. Sometimes they'll translate for me, 'can you babysit my regular while I go big spender table? ' Many variations of this too. Hey girls, you need to learn EXCUSE ME FOR INTERUPTING, MAY I TAIK TO YOUR PARTNER? Then I'd say NO! And interupting us is rude! Na. Na, only wishing could say that cause no kbg ever asked permission, at least seriously anyway. The hitting with slapping or punching of customers that didn't grab ass or touch the girl. The you need to move table' with no sorry, bartender moves your beer and says move over there, I need to make room. If you buy drinks for any of these girls, you are buying for bg with NO CLASS. There is much more. What are the rudeness stuff that bugs you guys?[/QUOTE]They were probably mega-brats when they were little. Now they are adults and undesirable as employees, and probably lack the discipline to work and take orders from a boss, not that they would want to.

I don't go to KBs as much as I used to for some of the same reasons as you, Oldee. Some things don't change, even in the face of dwindling business. As an old coworker of mine would say, "Numb-nuts". Nowadays the younger ones are too into their iPhones and overall there just isn't as much fun anymore.

Yes, being moved at the bar is one of my pet peeves, unless it is handled nicely. Usually the local bartenders are cool about it. I find I get vexed the way the k-bartendresses do it, though. One time I was almost done with my drink when the girl rudely demanded that I move; I told her I had a better idea and left. Then she was nice, "Heyyy, come back". Sure, I could have said more but I've seen girls lip-off at customers, and I don't like to get angry.

Hello Eve used to have that hypers waiter who would zip around that small cramped bar and bark out drink orders like he was on uppers or something; he's an accident waiting to happen. I haven't really been going now that it's Twilight so I don't know if he's still there.

There were times when it seemed that the girl and bartendress were tweaking the customer's tab with extra drinks. You should see the conniving looks on their faces during that process; pretty much the opposite of when they are back at the table. New Casino was one place; now they're gone. Evergreen is another; they've been dead for ages now (prior to Maya).

[QUOTE=Oldee;1172405]If you buy drinks for any of these girls, you are buying for bg with NO CLASS. There is much more. What are the rudeness stuff that bugs you guys?[/QUOTE]Yeah, plenty much more "no class" from the BGs; that's why they work bar. I try to ignore the crudeness and rudeness displayed all the time (no exaggeration) in some form or another. Perhaps the behavior is limited to the bar culture like a cultured pig, ahhh, I mean pearl.

It is amusing at times to watch them belittle themselves; they actually appear fugly, when you think about it.

Let's be positive and recognize a KBG with even a smidgen of manners and "class". I nominate. (can't think of one)

What really pisses me off is when they don't listen. You tell them your not hungry but, they still bring the food. Also, you tell them only 1 more drink. But, they don't listen and still ask for more. Or, instead of getting 1 drink, she gets 2 at once. Their attitude is: "He won't mind. He bought me drinks before" What you think, don't matter to them. This is more of their tricks. But, it is rude for them to help themselves without asking first.

What's sad is the fact that you tell them nicely, they don't take you seriously and won't listen. They think you won't get mad so they push you. Only when you show firmness and authority with them is when they listen. Heh, they are like little kids. You tell them nicely to stop playing around they don't listen. When you be firm and scold them is when they finally listen.

Iliketowatch mentioned before about what you say and think is foreign to them. To them, they not primarily concerned about mannerisms, going easy on the drinks so it won't discourage customers. They one track minded. Hostess bar, they expect you spend money. If you don't, then you shouldn't be going to these type of places. That's their mentality. I remember one of the bartenders at Niagras telling me this. She said: "This is a hostess bar. You suppose to spend money"

[QUOTE=Gargoyles69; 1172351]Hmmmm Fire and Ice True but think about it no play inside there? They have 2 section of the bar. One side is pretty isolated from the crowd and the other side is where the bar is. OK no play. Hmmm they do have a bedroom upstairs?

MS can always make it look great and no play. To fool the LC, [/QUOTE]I meant that the MS doesn't play. Not sure about the others.

I was responding to the monger that was looking for good conversation from a bartender.

Didn't know they had a upstairs. Stairway to Heaven? LOL