[QUOTE=BrutusBuckOh3;6131307]Got some nice new pics.
[URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/hot-new-latina-bbw-on-the-scen/512682032930[/URL][/QUOTE]I would definitely try. Has anyone got a report on her?
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[QUOTE=BrutusBuckOh3;6131307]Got some nice new pics.
[URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/hot-new-latina-bbw-on-the-scen/512682032930[/URL][/QUOTE]I would definitely try. Has anyone got a report on her?
[QUOTE=DankB007;6128788][URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/hot-new-latina-bbw-on-the-scen/243093326816[/URL]
So is the consensus that she's a set up? Has any Senior member verified that she's for real?[/QUOTE]She is real, I reviewed her. Seen her twice now. Good time.
I posted those before I read all the rest of the crap. I've been a member for a long time. I am a senior member. It took me a couple years to get that label because I don't post often. When I do, it is a review on a provider. I don't sit here and chit chat with you all. Its easy to have 500 post and say nothing and become a senior member. I don't care if you believe my reviews or not. At least I'm out here contributing real experiances.
So now ill prove she is real. Ask for a picture,
Her face and my dick. You want me to poke my dick in her ear? Nose? I wont post my face
I have a 330 appt. Get your request in.
[QUOTE=SpermDonorRex;6131494]I think she wants to tell the community that she is real and local with the DDN a paper version.
I want to hear from those who accused her being LE decoy what do they think now.[/QUOTE]I haven't TOFTT but I have been texting with her a little the past couple days. I don't think she's a decoy, and I may very well owe her an apology, but there really were some big time red flags there. If she's legit I apologize if my post cut into her business, but I'll never apologize for calling out red flags and warning everyone about them. This site exists for two reasons: 1) Help other mongers find good pussy, 2) Keep each other out of jail.
[QUOTE=Daytonfreek;6131907]I haven't TOFTT but I have been texting with her a little the past couple days. I don't think she's a decoy, and I may very well owe her an apology, but there really were some big time red flags there. If she's legit I apologize if my post cut into her business, but I'll never apologize for calling out red flags and warning everyone about them. This site exists for two reasons: 1) Help other mongers find good pussy, 2) Keep each other out of jail.[/QUOTE]Thats ironic you say this after what you said about me. Good luck with seeing her. She said you and another senior threatened her and she is thinking about not seeing anymore seniors on this board. She has been super busy with my review anyway. Guess youll have to get a new burn phone and lie to her about who you are to get in. She still worth it thou.
On another note, how do I resize photos? Says my dic is to big to upload the images.
[QUOTE=Traveler86;6132006]Thats ironic you say this after what you said about me. Good luck with seeing her. She said you and another senior threatened her and she is thinking about not seeing anymore seniors on this board. She has been super busy with my review anyway. Guess youll have to get a new burn phone and lie to her about who you are to get in. She still worth it thou.
On another note, how do I resize photos? Says my dic is to big to upload the images.[/QUOTE]I have not threatened her or identified myself to her. If she told you she spoke specifically to me she is either lying to you or someone is lying to her and claiming to be me.
[QUOTE=Daytonfreek;6132040]I have not threatened her or identified myself to her. If she told you she spoke specifically to me she is either lying to you or someone is lying to her and claiming to be me.[/QUOTE]She never said anyones name. But if not the only guy on here that's trying to dispute other peoples reviews and say they are cops, then who could it be. I guessed it was you because of the way your post are. Can you blame me for thinking its you? I mean look at all the red flags you threw up. I started reading your post then I stopped reading your post after 2 pages. All you have is agreeing with other peoples review and or hating on people. Read mine amd youll see almost all of them are actual reviews. If you don't like someones post, do what real seniors do and take it with a grain of salt instead of calling people police. If you don't believe a review then that is fine. Either wait it out untill you do believe or skip her and move on. No need to start the drama when others were just giving there experiance. I'm a senior member not because of how many post I have. Its because of how long I've been here. You showed all these regular members your ass over this. How many will actually try to toftt and post about it if they get accused of shit?. My guess is not many. Yet will you be man enought to admit you were wrong when others post about her? I dont care much if you see her or not.
Pics of Sofia, she said I can post these and the videos I took with her. Maybe this will help some people who might be on the edge. She sets hours because she's not a druggie and has a life. Like I said in previous post. She is figuring it out still. Maybe don't harass her so much. Give her a call. She might not be able to hear you thou, that my dic in her ear
Maybe you still dont believe. Maybe you still think you can toftt. Sad news bro, she on the fuckin roster already.
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[QUOTE=Traveler86;6132252]Pics of Sofia, she said I can post these and the videos I took with her. Maybe this will help some people who might be on the edge. She sets hours because she's not a druggie and has a life. Like I said in previous post. She is figuring it out still. Maybe don't harass her so much. Give her a call. She might not be able to hear you thou, that my dic in her ear
Maybe you still dont believe. Maybe you still think you can toftt. Sad news bro, she on the fuckin roster already.[/QUOTE]I would try her.
[QUOTE=SteveTimder;6128910][URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/2f15a9f2941a24f2[/URL]
Legit spinner as pictured I've seen her twice. A little shy at first takes direction well. BBBJ rest covered. She enjoyed daty prefers not to host no car but ok with picked up or Uber. Not a clock watcher. No drugs is reasonable in her pricing asking 300 can go msog. Tone, 5 ft 5 20. Also on WYP.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/XlOvwWa609POVG25ozpZgVeD[/URL]
I recommend in today's environment. She can take a pounding, multiple positions. No Greek. BBBJ daty, rest covered I have permission to share contact info. No deposit, no pic or screening. Just be gentlemen and treat her well.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Thanks for tip Steve. I met with her tonight. A gorgeous little ebony spinner. I had an amazing time with her and will def repeat. Tryst pricing, if you try to talk her down you'll miss out. Would luv to be selfish and keep her to myself. Very shy at first. Warmed up by the end. Treat her nice fellas.
Stay safe brothers.
[QUOTE=Traveler86;6132206]She never said anyones name. But if not the only guy on here that's trying to dispute other peoples reviews and say they are cops, then who could it be. I guessed it was you because of the way your post are. Can you blame me for thinking its you? I mean look at all the red flags you threw up. I started reading your post then I stopped reading your post after 2 pages. All you have is agreeing with other peoples review and or hating on people. Read mine amd youll see almost all of them are actual reviews. If you don't like someones post, do what real seniors do and take it with a grain of salt instead of calling people police. If you don't believe a review then that is fine. Either wait it out untill you do believe or skip her and move on. No need to start the drama when others were just giving there experiance. I'm a senior member not because of how many post I have. Its because of how long I've been here. You showed all these regular members your ass over this. How many will actually try to toftt and post about it if they get accused of shit?. My guess is not many. Yet will you be man enought to admit you were wrong when others post about her? I dont care much if you see her or not.[/QUOTE]I know we cleared the air a little via PM, but I'm going to go ahead and make one more post about this issue. The only way to know that I'm wrong is actually see her myself, but I admit that I do appear to be wrong about Sofia. But I did not just see someone else accuse her of being LE and blindly join in on a smear campaign. She had two glowing reviews, one from an unknown to these boards named "Traveler" and another unknown to EVERY board named "Wanderer". See the similarities there? Both profiles were created around the same time in 2016. You have a pretty big gap between a lot of your posts, and you have them all over the midwest. I see that you only post reviews and don't partake in chatter; and maybe you have an occupation that keeps you on the road. But WandererXXX had two posts at that time, separated by 6 years; and his first was right around the same time as your first. Also, it didn't help her case when I texted her and she responded with her menu, prices and location right off the bat. I think she's legit and pretty green tbh. I don't have a habit of accusing people of being LE, but I felt that what I had seen was enough to warn the board. Things like this are time sensitive, and can result in a lot of hobbyists getting pinched in a short amount of time. That being said, I do think she's legit, and I might even try and schedule something with her soon, which I will be sure to report on afterward. I do like her pretty face and gorgeous tits; and judging from my texts with her the past couple days, she seems to be a nice girl. I apologize if I cost her business, and I apologize for calling you out.
[QUOTE=Norgan8989;6131123]Yes, some will hit up people they have seen before. In can be an issue if you aren't using a burner and they call or try to video message you. Some do it to create an issue in your personal life. Some are just super hard up for money and they believe reaching out will help them get what they need faster.
Do you have a link for this Sarah?[/QUOTE]I'm thinking it's the latter of the reasons you named off. She's very well known and reviewed well so I don't think it was of any ill intent.
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Had a dream about Mandy Thomas from tryst (not UTR Mandy).
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/mandy613[/URL]
Mandy from tryst is incredible, a rare treat -- greets you at the door with a kiss and a hug, perfect hourglass body you get to wrap your arms around, perfect firm breasts she enjoyed me sucking on, great oral skills, long blonde hair down to her lower back, gorgeous ass, likes all of my favorites, and very responsive. She's perfect. Just thinking about her makes me want to go right back. And a nicer hotel. She's a little pricier than others, but you get what you give, and Mandy is worth every dime. Highly recommend and will repeat.
Now in Mason. She has a new female friend, too, who I did get to meet. PM with questions.
[QUOTE=Ace4262;6088933]The 2nd one is Mandy. She was or still is in Beavercreek, I-675 area. I would recommend.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ToddyDaHun;6115154]She began advertising on skipthegames yesterday so I'd guess she just needed a break. Search "Experience Sexual enlightenment" in the Dayton ads and you'll find her ads. She's great so treat her well.[/QUOTE]She's sweet? She ripped me off. Cash and dashed me. Won't answer texts now.
Advertises her prices then refuses FS then acts like you are the cheap ass for not forking over 300 for qv FS plus deposit. Anyone have luck here or was I the dick?
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Has anybody seen [URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-young-fun-outgoing-/859771585891?[/URL].
I'm very interested but she, like so many, are asking for a deposit. My brains are fighting over it, figured I'd ask if anyone has any history here. Thanks.
[QUOTE=GemCity39;6133405]Has anybody seen [URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-young-fun-outgoing-/859771585891?[/URL].
I'm very interested but she, like so many, are asking for a deposit. My brains are fighting over it, figured I'd ask if anyone has any history here. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Beware of the surprised boyfriend at the door!
I was doing a search on a provider that had a review from a few years ago and noticed on one of the STG links above that post was a provider that looked like Dana with a tighter body and the same tattoo on her breast. She had a different name but I am pretty sure it was Dana. If so, she looked pretty good about 4 plus years ago. Anyway, what name did she go by back then?
[QUOTE=Alexio23;6133378]Advertises her prices then refuses FS then acts like you are the cheap ass for not forking over 300 for qv FS plus deposit. Anyone have luck here or was I the dick?
[URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/deepthroat-q-w---n-available-t/250189772238[/URL][/QUOTE]No, she's a scammer. I've mentioned before awhile ago but she does that and rips people off (or at least she did that with me) by saying she'll only do FS through a deposit of $60 but for some stupid reason she'll take the full payment of her doing a BBBJ in cash. I've even offered extra if she'll take cash for FS but she refused. Also while her BBBJ was pretty good, her whole situation is shady af. When I was leaving her room, some guy was hanging around outside her room and near my car which was in front of her room. Idk if it was another would be customer or whatever but I'm not coming back. And she kept texting me saying she'll do it and her Cashapp wasn't broken anymore or some BS but I just told her to fuck off and blocked her number. Also be aware (according to other reviews) that she'll blackmail you as well.
[QUOTE=Alexio23;6133378]Advertises her prices then refuses FS then acts like you are the cheap ass for not forking over 300 for qv FS plus deposit. Anyone have luck here or was I the dick?
[URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/deepthroat-q-w---n-available-t/250189772238[/URL][/QUOTE]Apparently you have not gone through the rip off reports she has been reported there many times. And you would have found this out if you had searched Alexis in the search forum located near the top right corner just under post new thread.
Has anyone checked this out yet? Kinda seems like it's sketch.
[URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/glory-awaits-gloryhole-grand-o/350139528583[/URL]
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I'm from Lima and decided to make a trip down south today for a little fun. I paid a visit to Sarah first, she was staying at a quiet little motel on and Dixie. Her donation special is what attracted my attention in the first place and she was totally worth it for a qv. She is very nice and we had a good little conversation then we got right to business. Asked me to not be too rough as she is 8 months pregnant LOL, but we still had a good time. Started with BBBJ and finished with covered mish. Would recommend and definitely will repeat unless she takes a break when she has the baby. She did kind of ask a lot of questions about me through text but don't shy away she is definitely safe and honestly very sexy.
[URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-stacey/228144645862[/URL]
Next I stopped by to see Stephanie. She does not really look like her pics at all. She is a bigger woman which I have no issue with and do find attractive, her pics just don't really line up with how she looks. Definitely not as pretty as her pics make her out to be. But also what do you expect with STG girls. Her little apartment was super messy and she had 2 dogs in a cage. Was in a little bit of a sketchy neighborhood too. She did seem nice but everything was covered including BJ, I definitely prefer BBBJ and usually seek that. Also the deed was done on the couch, apartment barely had any AC so we started to sweat pretty fast too. If she had a bed, and a better donation I might consider repeating but not too sure. Overall I wasn't robbed and my car didn't get broken into so it was safe, but no couch and no BBBJ are 2 strikes against for me.
[QUOTE=DankB007;6132772]I'm thinking it's the latter of the reasons you named off. She's very well known and reviewed well so I don't think it was of any ill intent.
[URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/60qv-today-only-call-when-read/666383344671[/URL][/QUOTE]I'd have to agree. I just think Sarah was possibly in a pitch and need money and reach out to regulars or gentlemen she had seen recently. I too was hit up early this week after spending some time with her the previous week. She really got some great oral talent!
So has anyone taken the plunge other that traveler on this one. Hoping a trusted senior can verify. I'm just not the one to try.
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A quick search of the number comes back to this add. [URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/fellas-my-60-specisl-is-back/992779580752[/URL] Just food for thought.
[QUOTE=JustCurious00;6134408]Has anyone checked this out yet? Kinda seems like it's sketch.
[URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/glory-awaits-gloryhole-grand-o/350139528583[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ZMan2013;6134444][URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/60qv-today-only-call-when-read/013474688437[/URL]
I'm from Lima and decided to make a trip down south today for a little fun. I paid a visit to Sarah first, she was staying at a quiet little motel on and Dixie. Her donation special is what attracted my attention in the first place and she was totally worth it for a qv. She is very nice and we had a good little conversation then we got right to business. Asked me to not be too rough as she is 8 months pregnant LOL, but we still had a good time. Started with BBBJ and finished with covered mish. Would recommend and definitely will repeat unless she takes a break when she has the baby. She did kind of ask a lot of questions about me through text but don't shy away she is definitely safe and honestly very sexy.
[URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-stacey/228144645862[/URL]
Next I stopped by to see Stephanie. She does not really look like her pics at all. She is a bigger woman which I have no issue with and do find attractive, her pics just don't really line up with how she looks. Definitely not as pretty as her pics make her out to be. But also what do you expect with STG girls. Her little apartment was super messy and she had 2 dogs in a cage. Was in a little bit of a sketchy neighborhood too. She did seem nice but everything was covered including BJ, I definitely prefer BBBJ and usually seek that. Also the deed was done on the couch, apartment barely had any AC so we started to sweat pretty fast too. If she had a bed, and a better donation I might consider repeating but not too sure. Overall I wasn't robbed and my car didn't get broken into so it was safe, but no couch and no BBBJ are 2 strikes against for me.[/QUOTE]You really got lucky in the past she has gone by Stacy most of her reviews are bad and has been known to rip people off. One of her scams was you are starting your visit and she has a kid come to the door and say the pizza is here or has a boy friend drop by. Being a New Bee You need to spend time going through the rip off reports and and hall of shame and read at least a years worth of reports.
From the post:
- Walk In.
- Put Donation in Slot.
- Stick Dick Int.
There's no way I'm paying up front.
[QUOTE=JustCurious00;6134408]Has anyone checked this out yet? Kinda seems like it's sketch.
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[QUOTE=MallGuy101;6135205]You really got lucky in the past she has gone by Stacy most of her reviews are bad and has been known to rip people off. One of her scams was you are starting your visit and she has a kid come to the door and say the pizza is here or has a boy friend drop by. Being a New Bee You need to spend time going through the rip off reports and and hall of shame and read at least a years worth of reports.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. I've been around this site for a little while but just recently decided to make an account and start posting. I will definitely dig through the rip off reports next time. Also I usually hobby in Lima so I only visit Dayton occasionally, sometimes Toledo too. If you have any recommendations of safe ladies in Dayton let me know please. Thanks again.
[QUOTE=BuxKA;6120047]Sommer is still visiting her uncle but Heaven went on a travel visit up north for a few weeks and posted ads but is supposed to be back in Dayton now.[/QUOTE]Let me know about Sommer she is being missed.
[QUOTE=ZMan2013;6135490]Thanks for the heads up. I've been around this site for a little while but just recently decided to make an account and start posting. I will definitely dig through the rip off reports next time. Also I usually hobby in Lima so I only visit Dayton occasionally, sometimes Toledo too. If you have any recommendations of safe ladies in Dayton let me know please. Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I live in Cincinnati but for a while I was going up to Dayton but the last girl I saw just disappeared. I almost went to see Star but read reports about heavy drug use. I contacted Cait but at least my experience talking to her was she was a ***** but others have said she is great so as they say YMMV on her. Plus they say she smokes' like a chimney. There was one I saw that was okay but she has either left or is visiting her uncle and that was Jess thick and curvy. So with the cost of gas right now there is no one that I feel is worth the added costs. Right now the only one that I might take a chance on would be Ruggiez. She was great then she went way down hill she got clean and most reviews were good. I talked with her and had plans on meeting her but she quit responding to me. Her ad is on EM. Unless someone else says something different she would be the only one that I would come up to see. So you might want to see if you can get a hold of her.
[QUOTE=MallGuy101;6135205]You really got lucky in the past she has gone by Stacy most of her reviews are bad and has been known to rip people off. One of her scams was you are starting your visit and she has a kid come to the door and say the pizza is here or has a boy friend drop by. Being a New Bee You need to spend time going through the rip off reports and and hall of shame and read at least a years worth of reports.[/QUOTE]I didn't read any reviews on her. Pulled the trigger. Called when I pulled up. She answered the door. I thought I was in the wrong apartment because she didn't look like her pics at all! I said sorry I'm in the wrong place. She said no right place. Should've walked out then. Little head was thinking. Horrible service after about 6 minutes I couldn't get it up she was so big zipped up and bolted. Lesson learned.
Star definitely seems like an addict to me. I strongly suspect she was high when I saw her.
[QUOTE=MallGuy101;6136105]I live in Cincinnati but for a while I was going up to Dayton but the last girl I saw just disappeared. I almost went to see Star but read reports about heavy drug use. I contacted Cait but at least my experience talking to her was she was a ***** but others have said she is great so as they say YMMV on her. Plus they say she smokes' like a chimney. There was one I saw that was okay but she has either left or is visiting her uncle and that was Jess thick and curvy. So with the cost of gas right now there is no one that I feel is worth the added costs. Right now the only one that I might take a chance on would be Ruggiez. She was great then she went way down hill she got clean and most reviews were good. I talked with her and had plans on meeting her but she quit responding to me. Her ad is on EM. Unless someone else says something different she would be the only one that I would come up to see. So you might want to see if you can get a hold of her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MallGuy101;6136105]I live in Cincinnati but for a while I was going up to Dayton but the last girl I saw just disappeared. I almost went to see Star but read reports about heavy drug use. I contacted Cait but at least my experience talking to her was she was a ***** but others have said she is great so as they say YMMV on her. Plus they say she smokes' like a chimney. There was one I saw that was okay but she has either left or is visiting her uncle and that was Jess thick and curvy. So with the cost of gas right now there is no one that I feel is worth the added costs. Right now the only one that I might take a chance on would be Ruggiez. She was great then she went way down hill she got clean and most reviews were good. I talked with her and had plans on meeting her but she quit responding to me. Her ad is on EM. Unless someone else says something different she would be the only one that I would come up to see. So you might want to see if you can get a hold of her.[/QUOTE]I do not know why you would go from Cin. To Dayton to visit with a lady. You are using more of your time and gas to visit with someone that is over priced, over weight, provides bad service, and / or will be late or ghost you.
I saw Ruggiez about a year ago. Price was reasonable then. She made me wait about 15 min. Very good service and personable. She was very good. Her appt was clean but she hosted in a small room with a small bed and clutter.
I have reviewed Cait. I saw her about a year ago. She is young, cute, and not over weight. She is overpriced for her service. Worst she waste time by talking and she lit a cigarette while I was sitting by her before we started.
I recommend Tits and Spades in Ass. Nice apartment in a a nice area. Good looking but heavy. Clean apartment and very personable. Great BBBJ. She is pricy and middle age.
I had a decent young girl but I understand she got GPS.
I will be trying someone else soon.
If you're wanting a rushed service with a girl that looks good but a nasty smelling snatch, be my guest. I took one for the team the last time she was here and definitely regret it. Everything covered, not GFE, all about business, and hurries you out the door.
[URL]https://dayton.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/the-sweetest-treat-youre-ever-/242787210819[/URL]
[QUOTE=RufusFirefly;6136334]I do not know why you would go from Cin. To Dayton to visit with a lady. You are using more of your time and gas to visit with someone that is over priced, over weight, provides bad service, and / or will be late or ghost you.
I saw Ruggiez about a year ago. Price was reasonable then. She made me wait about 15 min. Very good service and personable. She was very good. Her appt was clean but she hosted in a small room with a small bed and clutter.
I have reviewed Cait. I saw her about a year ago. She is young, cute, and not over weight. She is overpriced for her service. Worst she waste time by talking and she lit a cigarette while I was sitting by her before we started.
I recommend Tits and Spades in Ass. Nice apartment in a a nice area. Good looking but heavy. Clean apartment and very personable. Great BBBJ. She is pricy and middle age..[/QUOTE]After I hit send report I realized I got Tits and Ass in Spades name wrong.
She is better at entertaining than I am at replying.
Interested if anyone has seen Tiffany lately thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=RufusFirefly;6136334]I do not know why you would go from Cin. To Dayton to visit with a lady. You are using more of your time and gas to visit with someone that is over priced, over weight, provides bad service, and / or will be late or ghost you.
I saw Ruggiez about a year ago. Price was reasonable then. She made me wait about 15 min. Very good service and personable. She was very good. Her appt was clean but she hosted in a small room with a small bed and clutter.
I have reviewed Cait. I saw her about a year ago. She is young, cute, and not over weight. She is overpriced for her service. Worst she waste time by talking and she lit a cigarette while I was sitting by her before we started.
I recommend Tits and Spades in Ass. Nice apartment in a a nice area. Good looking but heavy. Clean apartment and very personable. Great BBBJ. She is pricy and middle age..[/QUOTE]Has anyone seen Ruggiez lately? I've been looking for her.