Streetwalker Reports

I am going to second Gator's recommendation to stay clear of this one. I put up my report in the ripoff section.

[QUOTE=Gator145;2875326]This is just a heads up. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100359&d=1274234400[/URL].

If the link doesn't work go to Rip Off Reports. Look for Danielle. There's only 8 photos there so she will be easy to find.
Any way she's back in the area. I personally have not had any issues with her. Others here have. I dated her a few years ago.
So when there's a ripoff report I say to myself why risk it.
She doesn't look the same as she's a bit older now. But a real hard look will tell you its her. My thought is old habits die hard.
She's back working the same area she worked a way back when. Tioga up to Venango and then up to Sedgeley. Maybe there's other guys here that remember her and can enlighten the rest of us
just what her issues are.
No matter be forewarned that this girl has history with many here. My advice would be to leave this one alone.
Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator[/QUOTE]

I almost always when asked for the money up front, have provided the $$ up front, with the few exceptions where I bailed. I even bailed after providing the money and did not feel safe. Most girls I have met, ask for it in advance. Am I doing the wrong thing? Should I not be giving it up front. I read the rules again but there is no explicit answer. Again, not sure what the right or wrong thing is to do here. Some girls don't ask and I obviously provided at the end of our experience together but the ones that ask, I have given it in advance. Some thoughts / suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.

Typically, I will just say "Oh, no, sorry. I don't pay in advance. Got beat too many times, sorry. I am just going to drop you back off". Usually after that, they will either agree, or say "Can you at least give me half up front" or "Can I at least see the money so I know you have it". I have never had a girl agree to be dropped back off once they are in the car. If the girl is hot, then I have caved in and given half up front. With Danielle, this was the very first time I gave all up front and it was only because I had seen her twice before and had her number. Live and Learn.

[QUOTE=JamesGlia;2876802]I almost always when asked for the money up front, have provided the $$ up front, with the few exceptions where I bailed. I even bailed after providing the money and did not feel safe. Most girls I have met, ask for it in advance. Am I doing the wrong thing? Should I not be giving it up front. I read the rules again but there is no explicit answer. Again, not sure what the right or wrong thing is to do here. Some girls don't ask and I obviously provided at the end of our experience together but the ones that ask, I have given it in advance. Some thoughts / suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Recently been in touch with the little minx. She's said I could share her digits "yes, now, asap, plez" senior members let me know.

Anybody here knows what happened to Heather who hangs around Clearfield? I have tried her phone but she never responded. Does anybody knows if she's still around?

[QUOTE=JCM2767;2879827]Anybody here knows what happened to Heather who hangs around Clearfield? I have tried her phone but she never responded. Does anybody knows if she's still around?[/QUOTE]Is this heather you talking about. Aka Christina. She has been my atf And regular. I see her pretty much couple times every week. She is Very clean and beautiful. Nice attitude and well educated. Date is always great. Once she gets to know you and gets more comfortable, She would do anal Or bareback with you. She is an utr Girl.

[QUOTE=Mackeral1;2876961]Typically, I will just say "Oh, no, sorry. I don't pay in advance. Got beat too many times, sorry. I am just going to drop you back off". Usually after that, they will either agree, or say "Can you at least give me half up front" or "Can I at least see the money so I know you have it". I have never had a girl agree to be dropped back off once they are in the car. If the girl is hot, then I have caved in and given half up front. With Danielle, this was the very first time I gave all up front and it was only because I had seen her twice before and had her number. Live and Learn.[/QUOTE]

A lot of the advice in Rule #23 for BP Dating (Post #8) can be used in the SW situation. The "how to" (post #11) gives technique ideas.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?13919-My-Suggestions.-Rules-For-BackPage[/url]

The other idea, which I learned from FbTom, was the "rule of 5 ths" - give the girl one fifth of the fee upfront and at each step, if she seems hesitant. So if you agreed to a $50 poetry reading, then start her off with $10. Then when she's in the room or in the back seat another 1/5th. Or perhaps when she is naked the second 1/5th. That way if she bolts on you, your loss is minimal and you give her incentive to follow through with the date.

But, NEVER be so worked up that you aren't willing to walk away from a date! Sometimes that is the best move. $5 usually gets them out of your car, if need be.

[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2880162]
The other idea, which I learned from FbTom, was the "rule of 5 ths" - give the girl one fifth of the fee upfront and at each step, if she seems hesitant. So if you agreed to a $50 poetry reading, then start her off with $10. Then when she's in the room or in the back seat another 1/5th. Or perhaps when she is naked the second 1/5th. That way if she bolts on you, your loss is minimal and you give her incentive to follow through with the date.
[/QUOTE]I really like that idea. It seems like a great way to establish trust with the SW. Plus if the girl doesn't want to appear as if she I'd going to rip you off she will most likely agree to it.

Most working girls I see are spinners, not really my type. I understand most girls have a "habit", but are there bigger girls that will read my poetry?

It's been a while since I met up with Shaina. I think CJ did a picture spread on her a while ago. We met near the steak place on Lehigh, drove to a pretty good spot and proceeded to start a BBBJ.

Unfortunately due to too many people walking / driving by, the act couldn't be completed.

She did say she's been away for a little while. Mentioned having a kid about a year or so ago and dealing with some medicinal issues.

Shaina still looks pretty good. For what I experienced before the interruptions, her game is still good too.

So, I was out and about on the K last night and on Jasper, north of Huntingdon, ran into Jackie, a blond WSW. Fairly pretty face, pretty sure she's been reviewed here before. She agreed to. 30 for a BBBJ, so we went to a discreet spot. On the way, she was nodding a little, so I was already writing this one off. She perked up when we got there, and gave me a decent BBBJ but toward the end her effort was pretty half-assed, complaining I was big, etc. , and dodging at the critical moment. I was disinclined to give her a tip as she asked for, so I didn't. Dropped her off at the Chinese joint just south of Somerset on the way back and instantly after doing so, noticed that my high-end vape was missing, so I turned right around, marched myself back into the Chinese joint and demanded it back. She denied taking it, but I could see it in her handbag, so I told her to walk out of the store before I got angry, which she did. She got back into the front seat. I told her I knew she had it, I could see it, and I'd be willing to give her $10 for it back since it would save me the trouble of replacing it, and if she didn't, things were going to get very bad for her very quickly. She thought it over for a sec and gave it up. I reached behind her and took out my 9 mm (which I legally carry) and told her she made a good choice, and to get out of my sight and stay there. She did so, in a hurry. Not that I was going to risk going to jail for a vaporizer, but I wanted to give her the fear of God, so to speak. So overall: Pedestrian service at best, lowlife thief. Many better options out there.

[QUOTE=GregorSamsa;2892221] noticed that my high-end vape was missing, [/QUOTE]Eh, it s*cks when that happens and it shouldn't but like Rule #17 suggests, one needs to recognize these girls have wandering hands and anything you don't want to grow legs, needs to be locked away.

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Learn from the school of hard knocks and become a better monger next time!

Good luck! Stay safe!

You might notice from my number of posts that I have been at this for awhile. From reading these posts, it sounds like you Philly fanatics might be having more fun than us Chicagoans. I will be in your fun city the first week of June. I noticed a couple of street names in the latest posts, but nothing really specific. Can you Philly experts help out an.

Alien monger with the best places to look? If nervous about LEO, feel free to send me a private.

[QUOTE=GregorSamsa;2892221]So, I was out and about on the K last night and on Jasper, north of Huntingdon, ran into Jackie, a blond WSW. Fairly pretty face, pretty sure she's been reviewed here before. She agreed to. 30 for a BBBJ, so we went to a discreet spot. On the way, she was nodding a little, so I was already writing this one off. She perked up when we got there, and gave me a decent BBBJ but toward the end her effort was pretty half-assed, complaining I was big, etc. , and dodging at the critical moment. I was disinclined to give her a tip as she asked for, so I didn't. Dropped her off at the Chinese joint just south of Somerset on the way back and instantly after doing so, noticed that my high-end vape was missing, so I turned right around, marched myself back into the Chinese joint and demanded it back. She denied taking it, but I could see it in her handbag, so I told her to walk out of the store before I got angry, which she did. She got back into the front seat. I told her I knew she had it, I could see it, and I'd be willing to give her $10 for it back since it would save me the trouble of replacing it, and if she didn't, things were going to get very bad for her very quickly. She thought it over for a sec and gave it up. I reached behind her and took out my 9 mm (which I legally carry) and told her she made a good choice, and to get out of my sight and stay there. She did so, in a hurry. Not that I was going to risk going to jail for a vaporizer, but I wanted to give her the fear of God, so to speak. So overall: Pedestrian service at best, lowlife thief. Many better options out there.[/QUOTE]Ok ok ok I fully understand what and why you did what you did. Do I agree with the choice you made? Not really. In fact its about the stupidest thing I've heard of since Bruce Jenners orgasm. You took a major chance pulling out your equalizer. Especially considering where you did it. Really you should know much better. You never pull it out unless you intend to use it. That damned foolish maneuver out of anger could have cost you big time. If she would have screamed or caused a scene with all the Tranny cops within spitting distance your ass could have been wet toast very quickly. You are in an area where LEO shoots first and asks questions later. Not to mention the attention you could have brought to other mongers. Again two stupid acts does not equal a smart one. Both hers and yours could have become very nasty quickly. All she had to do was call the cops and your ass would have been at 8th and Race for the night. You may have a legal paper that says you are permitted to carry, but that paper does not allow you to waive the piece around or threaten another person. Now like I said, it's agreed I would have been pissed also. A can of pepper spray or mace would have accomplished the same end with minimal incarceration or bodily injury risk. Just a thought from someone whos been there and done that. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Ump1969;2892673]You might notice from my number of posts that I have been at this for awhile. From reading these posts, it sounds like you Philly fanatics might be having more fun than us Chicagoans. I will be in your fun city the first week of June. I noticed a couple of street names in the latest posts, but nothing really specific. Can you Philly experts help out an.

Alien monger with the best places to look? If nervous about LEO, feel free to send me a private.[/QUOTE]Well if you have been at it awhile I'm going to say I wouldn't want to be in your shoes. You see there is still something to learn. First of which is that this Site is a wonderful resource if one takes the time to avail themself of what it has to offer. (but I digress and apologize for the douchery. Can't save everyone from danger).

So if you hear some sarcasm here just know. We get guys like you 2-3 times a month. Always with their hand out. Then some kind sole helps them out and we NEVER hear anything in return Sigh.

But maybe some azzh*le will come along and point out that there are "stroll maps" for pretty much the entire USA collected all in one place! Forum > Special Interests > Amateurs > SW Maps.

But if one is so experienced then why hasn't one done what any right minded monger might do when wandering into a new area? I. e. RTFT! After all since this question has been answered at least 3 times this year one would surely see how easy it is to scroll to the bottom of the main Philly index page, find the "User Blog" section and see whole thread dedicated to the very topic one queried about? (you don't expect me to "spoon feed" you a direct link do you?)

But I just scrolled back several pages and forgot that Gator posted a L-O-N-G and detailed review of block by block where to find each girl! 6409 And you say you read the thread? Huh? I even gave clues at 6396.

If you are coming into Philly and expecting to apply nice MidWestern techniques here in one of the toughest 'hoods on the east coast, well good luck! I have lived in the Midwest and have been in Cicero and that ain't no Kensington. Hope you have the 22 Rules ingrained as well as the advice about dealing with LE in the "Busted: A Citizen's Guide To... " video as when Phillys Finest stop yer azz, it is no time to try to remember the advice. Hey, I'm just sayin'. Oh and there is some valuable discussion about ripoffs and techniques in the thread too - if anyone cares?

So now you have a free "hand-out" and some sound advice, we'll see if you bother to even acknowledge the help, let alone report back on what you found!

Good luck, stay safe!