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Seriously, must you guys always do this? You know I read all of those posts right? I had a reason for letting it go through. If I can get them to post a couple times I can develop a profile on the user. Thank you Nose for starting off this bullshit so that she makes another account and learns from her mistakes.
Seriously man, I appreciate you making my job harder.
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I am a dude.
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No, you're not. We all know you're not.
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Wonder
Paid at visit to Wonder and spent about 45 min. With Linda.
Nice enough lady.
Enhanced boobs, a little extra weight in the middle.
Decent massage, though it was kinda short.
Hand ending was pretty good. She acted like she was into it.
60/80.
Will probably repeat.
2 track.
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My thoughts.
[QUOTE]What she's telling you is most the guys are cheap and poorly groomed which is a turn off. They're providing a service and they want to get paid for it.[/QUOTE]No, whether it be Hans or Frans, that's not the theme of what they were saying. It was a side note reminder within. What they were saying I do agree with when it comes to a guy wanting solid confidence that he'll get more than a HJ and a smile. Something to bear in mind and focus on if one wants to Rely on getting more. Sure. Whether it was a provider or a regular of a provider who was egged on in throwing it out here, it is what it is.
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;3881327]I think Benz is correct, our little friend trying to provide hints for us is a little backwards in her thinking. "Whether you want to think so or not, this is a form of a relationship and if you want good service you have to earn it. " Sorry but that statement is backwards. It should read if you want good TIPS, you have to earn them! She is putting the cart before the horse![/QUOTE]I agree with what you say + what Hans / Frans said in general. The provider has to kick it off to earn a guy wanting more than just a one-time visit. The guy doesn't have to "earn" anything, really. It's more that he does the common sense stuff like showering beforehand and being on the up-and-up. The only other thing he has to do, if he wants to pretty much guarantee that he'll get more than a HJ every time, is to focus on a particular gal that went well, to see her several times, and those balls will start rolling. I can't argue with that point, although a guy doesn't Need to do that to get more than an HJ. But it's the "solid" position to have if he's coming up empty-handed outside of just that. Kind of like a bartender throwing ya a free beer once in a while, if you're not going the big-time spender route.
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Shaws MP thoughts
If you don't mind, I will chime in here as well. I for one have gone almost exclusively with MP's at this point. I really appreciate the sensuality of a massage versus the hardcore aspect of an escort. I want to be paid attention to.
That said, I feel that the massage girls job is to provide her service in a clean, safe manner, without all the upsell. Just a mention of tips is good enough. If she is comfortable with me as a customer, I will know it based on her treatment of me. MY job is to arrive on time, clean, groomed and acting like a gentleman. I am to respect any limitations she sets without whining about it, and I am expected to tip according to my interpretation of how well she did. My job is to also share here any information gleaned that I feel would benefit my monger brothers.
When it all comes down to it, if we click, I will always go for a second visit. That second visit is the true sign of the interaction. If you click again, then make her a habit. See her on a regular basis. Keep in contact and help her with a review. And if it is a favorable review, then verify that she is OK with one. If she makes you feel like a million dollars then be generous. If she doesn't, then move on. And again, share with your fellow mongers why it wasn't so good. Obviously you can skip asking her if she wants it posted.
I have three ladies I see on a regular basis. They all meet special needs like location, time available, technique. I have no reason to look elsewhere right now and this is the way I like it. Some people are never happy with the same thing so, obviously your opinions may differ.
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[QUOTE=Bismark;3871619]Spent an hour with Leslie recently. Booked an hour. The massage was ok, focused mostly on the back with light pressure. The tease was better. Before the flip, she lost pants and panties. Seemed to very much enjoy all the roaming.
After the flip, the HE was exceptional. I've never been so happy at Panacea. I would absolutely repeat. $. 60 including door fee.[/QUOTE]My experience would be classified as the complete opposite. Nothing came off but honestly that was a bonus for me. Everyone has their own type and large, plump and unattractive isn't my type. My worst experience at Panacea by a mile.
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Well said, my friend!!
[QUOTE=Shawtren;3882536]If you don't mind, I will chime in here as well. I for one have gone almost exclusively with MP's at this point. I really appreciate the sensuality of a massage versus the hardcore aspect of an escort. I want to be paid attention to.
That said, I feel that the massage girls job is to provide her service in a clean, safe manner, without all the upsell. Just a mention of tips is good enough. If she is comfortable with me as a customer, I will know it based on her treatment of me. MY job is to arrive on time, clean, groomed and acting like a gentleman. I am to respect any limitations she sets without whining about it, and I am expected to tip according to my interpretation of how well she did. My job is to also share here any information gleaned that I feel would benefit my monger brothers.
When it all comes down to it, if we click, I will always go for a second visit. That second visit is the true sign of the interaction. If you click again, then make her a habit. See her on a regular basis. Keep in contact and help her with a review. And if it is a favorable review, then verify that she is OK with one. If she makes you feel like a million dollars then be generous. If she doesn't, then move on. And again, share with your fellow mongers why it wasn't so good. Obviously you can skip asking her if she wants it posted.
I have three ladies I see on a regular basis. They all meet special needs like location, time available, technique. I have no reason to look elsewhere right now and this is the way I like it. Some people are never happy with the same thing so, obviously your opinions may differ.[/QUOTE]You, my dear, are ALWAYS an amazing client!
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Traverse city.
OK, Going to take a shot in the dark here. I know from reading the past reports the opportunity for fun in Traverse City is basically non existent.
However, since I will be working up here for the next six months, I wanted to see if anybody is aware of any possibilities. Interested in any provider or MP that provides extras. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Healthy habits desk lady
Stopped in to healthy habits again, was hoping to see Angela but she was not available. The older Asian lady at the front desk said she was available. I'll be honest I've walked out when she was the only one available before, but I read on here somewhere a good review of her, so I decided to take a chance and holy shit balls am I glad I did. Her English was not great and she really did not talk much at all. Massage was what you'd expect. Tease was what you'd expect too. But the flip, oh man that flip. It's the best HE I've had ever!
She did not go straight to the rod like most do. She continued to tease, rub my chest, my legs, and graze the boys and the rod. I about blew it just from this. She did pull her girls out too and they are very perky given her age. She continues with the rubbing while beginning to stroke. She playfully smiles and makes eye contact too while doing all of this as well. Needless to say the ending was huge.
Guys seriously she is worth checking out. No idea what her name actually is but I tipped 50 on a 30 minute appointment because it was better than average. No idea if there is more menu or not but will go back and find out.
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Healthy Habits
[QUOTE=DerickSaunders;3886190]Stopped in to healthy habits again, was hoping to see Angela but she was not available. The older Asian lady at the front desk said she was available. I'll be honest I've walked out when she was the only one available before, but I read on here somewhere a good review of her, so I decided to take a chance and holy shit balls am I glad I did. Her English was not great and she really did not talk much at all. Massage was what you'd expect. Tease was what you'd expect too. But the flip, oh man that flip. It's the best HE I've had ever!
She did not go straight to the rod like most do. She continued to tease, rub my chest, my legs, and graze the boys and the rod. I about blew it just from this. She did pull her girls out too and they are very perky given her age. She continues with the rubbing while beginning to stroke. She playfully smiles and makes eye contact too while doing all of this as well. Needless to say the ending was huge.
Guys seriously she is worth checking out. No idea what her name actually is but I tipped 50 on a 30 minute appointment because it was better than average. No idea if there is more menu or not but will go back and find out.[/QUOTE]Her name is Lisa.
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Lywanna
Saw lywanna a few weeks ago and had a great time. She was very accomadating and understanding when I got stuck in traffic. Super nice lady with great hand skills. Was there for a half hour appointment. Will go for the hour next time. MBD can really use more business according to her. Go see lywanna! Damage 40/40.
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Layla
Benz, as always, is the main man in GR and gave me the info I needed to get an appointment with the wild, woman Layla. She is definitely non-stop in her quest to make sure that you get everything that you need from her appointment. I came out weak-kneed and thoroughly satisfied from my hour with her. She is exceptional at her craft and I will be going back to see her. Thank you Benz!
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Layla
[QUOTE=Oddjob;3887113]Benz, as always, is the main man in GR and gave me the info I needed to get an appointment with the wild, woman Layla. She is definitely non-stop in her quest to make sure that you get everything that you need from her appointment. I came out weak-kneed and thoroughly satisfied from my hour with her. She is exceptional at her craft and I will be going back to see her. Thank you Benz![/QUOTE]She had me week in the knees too.
Eric Clapton said it best, Layyyyla you got me on my knees.
I'm glad to hear you had fun.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-i-got-your-backc/226806019880[/URL]
Recent chatter about skip the games not having real providers isn't true. Layla is real, available and No B.S.
All the sites have their B.S. going on, you have to learn how to sort them out. First don't bother with the ones that look TGTBT.
Happy hunting
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Layla vs. Lisa
[QUOTE=Benz1;3887233]She had me week in the knees too.
Eric Clapton said it best, Layyyyla you got me on my knees.
I'm glad to hear you had fun.
[URL]http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-i-got-your-backc/226806019880[/URL]
Recent chatter about skip the games not having real providers isn't true. Layla is real, available and No B.S.
All the sites have their B.S. going on, you have to learn how to sort them out. First don't bother with the ones that look TGTBT.
Happy hunting[/QUOTE]Hey Benz, is Lisa and Layla the same person or is this a different girl you recommend?
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A request
To the wonderful providers we have, one thing that can suffer frequently is communication. If you're unavailable, even when you have an ad up, please just give a simple, "sorry, all booked. " It's confusing and perhaps even a little hurtful when a provider you've seen many times stops talking to you for no reason. After all, some of us become friends, do we not? I had this recently, and though she continues to post, I never get a response. I've asked if there was an issue, but no answer. Now, I know, because it's happened to me, that providers sometimes mix up their clients. I was confused for one that had been blacklisted, so to speak, but the mistake was found out and all was well. Communication is never bad. But with this first provider I mentioned, who I have always gotten along with, suddenly there is nothing. Ladies, please, if there is a reason you might be uncomfortable, or if something has happened, it doesn't hurt to discuss it if we reach out. I may not be speaking for everyone, but I imagine more than just me share this sentiment.