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Coconut, you pm'd me, I tried to reply but you have your settings set to not receive any pm's. Change your settings and pm me again.

Lou.

Just curious does the little disclaimer some ladies put in thier profile actually mean anything?

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[QUOTE=Kevoneinfl;2140717]Just curious does the little disclaimer some ladies put in thier profile actually mean anything?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]330861[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Not even a little bit.

It's not like a judge would throw out a charge because a provider had that "disclaimer" on her website.

Basically, all it is saying is, "Yes, I am a prostitute."

[QUOTE=Kevoneinfl;2140717]Just curious does the little disclaimer some ladies put in thier profile actually mean anything?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]330861[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]If you hand over money after discussing payment for sexual services with LEO, then you will be charged with a sex offense. That little disclaimer will mean nothing in a court of law.

She posts it as she wants there to be NO discussion about paying for sex in your communications with her. If a guy asks her about how much a certain sexual act will cost, she will probably hang up as she does not want there to be any record of her tying money to sex. Likewise, if you call her and she says something like "FS will be $200 per hour", then you should hang up on her. While the mere discussion of payment of sex is not illegal, it does establish intent and if you decide to meet the person you spoke with, if that person is LEO and even if you don't mention money and just leave her payment on the dresser, you will probably be arrested as they will have a copy of the phone call or text and they can show your intent to commit a crime.

They way to be safe is to simply never relate money to sex in ANY communication at ANY time. If she does not advertise her price, when you contact her to inquire, simply ask "how much per hour?" While you may intend it to be for sex, in court you could say you were asking for an hour of massage, an hour of conversation, etc. None of those are illegal. There is nothing there about any intent to commit a potential crime and if LEO is involved here, they will probably not target you for followup as they have little to go on.

If you then meet the girl in person, lay the money on a dresser without saying a word. Make sure she sees it, but don't even point it out. Just leave it there. Typically she will collect it and go count it then come back and start getting comfortable. If she asks "is this for me? Don't say anything. If she is not LEO, she will get the hint and go off and count it and start getting comfortable. If she asks "is this for having sex with me baby? Say "Certainly not! I am not here for sex! I just wanted a quiet hour of relaxing conversation. Please give me the money back and I will be on my way!" Certainly, if she is LEO, she will try to get you to say the money is for sex. Never do that.

And even if she gets half naked, don't discuss money! While few if any female LEO's will get naked or even rub your privates during a sting, you never want to risk incriminating yourself. It is possible she is LEO but will slip into something skimpy and will begin a massage with the intent to get you to admitting the money is for sex well into the session. Don't think that just because she is half naked and rubbing you that she cannot possibly be LEO. She probably isn't by that point, but you never know. Again, NEVER relate money to sex.

This is the lesson to be learned by her disclaimer in her ads! It is to protect you both, but you both have to know the game to play. And certainly, it is possible to pay a woman for an hour of conversation in a hotel and, during the conversation, decide you want to have sex with each other, and it is not necessarily illegal. It all comes down to intent, so never show in your actions that you have the intent to purchase sex.

Just an update on Amor. Many of you have written positive reviews of her and if you have seen her you know she is one of the best providers you will find in this area. She is a mom and does this to provide for her family. She isn't doing drugs, there is no manager and she doesn't play any games. I wanted to let you know that for the next few weeks, she has 9 am to 1 pm open during the week except for Wednesdays. She will work with you to see you other times, I just know those times will work well for her if they fit into your schedule. Her in call is clean and safe. She is also going to school, she just got her HS diploma and is starting some college courses. She has a plan to better herself and I have no doubt she will achieve what she has set out to do. With that being said, she could use some visits from you guys. For those that don't have her contact information, all I need is some information to verify you if you aren't known to me on here or a proven SM. Have a good weekend!

Lou.

Thanks for all the great replies.

I didn't think the little message was legally binding but thought it would make a good talking point.

I'm new to this place. So, I am looking for a mature women (45+ to 60) to show me some good time. Any recommendation guys?

Got the txt today from exposing johns today. Anyone out here get one? Any advice?

[QUOTE=BoxPounder;2162285]Got the txt today from exposing johns today. Anyone out here get one? Any advice?[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear this, those bastards should not be allowed to function as a business as it is truly extortion.

Well, first, why are you using your own phone for contacting girls. Ever hear of a burner?

Second, if you have little to lose, you have not been convicted of a crime or even.

Suspected, sue them for $1 million for emotional distress. [URL]http://www.ehow.com/info_8475567_can-sue-harassment-emotional-distress.html[/URL].

Or libel.

Third, file charges against them for extortion.

Fourth, find them and call ray donovan.

Anybody have a fifth? (scotch preferred).

HR.

[QUOTE=BoxPounder;2162285]Got the txt today from exposing johns today. Anyone out here get one? Any advice?[/QUOTE]If you don't use a burner, you're an idiot. If you do use a burner phone, why do you give a shit about the site and the text? In other words, the burner phone isn't attached to your real name / address / life, so it doesn't matter.

[blue]Normally I would redact this for being argumentative but while the delivery is harsh, the info is spot on.

A2[/blue]

Anyone have any recommendations on a reasonably priced hotel on vero beach? Will be there August 10-12.

Thanks.

Jim.

Senior Gentlemen:

My friend has recently had to give up his local UTR and is willing to make a referral to any senior members who have been helpful in the past. She posts on POF, so PM me for the user name and you can do your own research. Just FYI, she is late 50's, and a bigger girl. If that is not in your appetite, then at least you know. On the plus side, she is affectionate and insatiable in bed. 420 friendly, and did I mention, insatiable in bed?

Best wishes and hobby on.

TW.

To my friends on the board I am bidding a farewell. When my post is deleted for injecting a little levity in brother Jags section I find it's time to leave since. This act of censorship from Admin tells me the board is no longer a fee speech platform. I understand we want to keep the drama down but hell if we can't polk fun then it's no longer fun.

Over and Out. Hawkeye49.

Sorry to see you are upset Hawkeye. Maybe in time you will reconsider and return. Your contributions to this venue have been invaluable and made enjoyable reading. Jag is also sorry to see you upset and hopes you reconsider. Hope to see you back here soon.

Good Luck,

BN.

Hawkeye49;2166696]To my friends on the board I am bidding a farewell. When my post is deleted for injecting a little levity in brother Jags section I find it's time to leave since. This act of censorship from Admin tells me the board is no longer a fee speech platform. I understand we want to keep the drama down but hell if we can't polk fun then it's no longer fun.

Over and Out. Hawkeye49.

[QUOTE=Hawkeye49;2166696]To my friends on the board I am bidding a farewell. When my post is deleted for injecting a little levity in brother Jags section I find it's time to leave since. This act of censorship from Admin tells me the board is no longer a fee speech platform. I understand we want to keep the drama down but hell if we can't polk fun then it's no longer fun.

Over and Out. Hawkeye49.[/QUOTE]Hate to see you go HawkEye, and what's worst is seeing the reason why you're leaving. I'll flat out and say I don't like the Jag guy either and every time I see his post I just skip it. Your posts however HawkEye I do enjoy. You post accurately and straight to the point, nothing flashy or overly detailed about yourself.

I hope you change your mind and stay though, but that's up to you.

'Pyth.

[QUOTE=Hawkeye49;2166696]To my friends on the board I am bidding a farewell. When my post is deleted for injecting a little levity in brother Jags section I find it's time to leave since. This act of censorship from Admin tells me the board is no longer a fee speech platform. I understand we want to keep the drama down but hell if we can't polk fun then it's no longer fun.

Over and Out. Hawkeye49.[/QUOTE][BLUE]You haven't been on moderation since you were a noob. I don't see unmoderated Seniors posts in my mod console. I don't recall deleting any of your posts.

However I isolated Jag for a reason; when I make a box for a member like that it's to cut down on stupid bullshit, I may have deleted your post for that reason, but honestly I don't recall. You may have seen it as humor, but since you've been around for awhile others would have seen it as license to throw spitballs and I didn't put him there for that. I isolated him so that guys that like his content can read it, and guys that resented his intrusions into the review threads can more easily skip it.

You have been a respected member of the community for a long time, I hate to see you go, but you have to do what you have to do.

The door is open if you ever want to come back.

A2[/BLUE]

DO NOT let the self imposed, so he thinks, king get the best of you Brother Hawkeye. Remember he who pounds his chest the most, probably doesn't really do all that he thinks he does.

IMHO Jag is a blowhard and thinks WAY to highly of himself. He has his little' following who wait daily for his "gospel". Hey has YMMV in what to many reviews and it makes me think something is fishy!

Stay don't go. If you go then he got the best of you. I would trust your info before even considering Jags.

Keep it real Hawkeye.

TJMhappy.

[QUOTE=Hawkeye49;2166696]To my friends on the board I am bidding a farewell. When my post is deleted for injecting a little levity in brother Jags section I find it's time to leave since. This act of censorship from Admin tells me the board is no longer a fee speech platform. I understand we want to keep the drama down but hell if we can't polk fun then it's no longer fun.

Over and Out. Hawkeye49.[/QUOTE]

Hawkeye.

Don't let the new comer take the best if you.

You have been a good monger here and we would like to keep seen your post from time to time.

Don't let them take the best of you.

Ee.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2173240][BLUE]You haven't been on moderation since you were a noob. I don't see unmoderated Seniors posts in my mod console. I don't recall deleting any of your posts.

However I isolated Jag for a reason; when I make a box for a member like that it's to cut down on stupid bullshit, I may have deleted your post for that reason, but honestly I don't recall. You may have seen it as humor, but since you've been around for awhile others would have seen it as license to throw spitballs and I didn't put him there for that. I isolated him so that guys that like his content can read it, and guys that resented his intrusions into the review threads can more easily skip it.

You have been a respected member of the community for a long time, I hate to see you go, but you have to do what you have to do.

The door is open if you ever want to come back.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Hawkeye,

Admin2 reached out to you and the crew values your contribution to the hobby. Put the problem behind you and re-up with the crew. Welcome back!

Well guys I listened to no ones advice on here and never got a Jax Teller burner phone for all my criminal activities. I am now on the freakin EXPOSING JOHNS site. Just my number. I got a text a few days ago saying it was there. There is a button to push that says it will delete my info for me. But I'm too scared to hit it LOL! I'm worried if I hit delete it will confirm all my pending info. Right now it just has my number and is pending location, age, sex, etc. Any one have some pointers besides just calling me a dumb shit?

[QUOTE=PhrogGunner;2174376]Well guys I listened to no ones advice on here and never got a Jax Teller burner phone for all my criminal activities. I am now on the freakin EXPOSING JOHNS site. Just my number. I got a text a few days ago saying it was there. There is a button to push that says it will delete my info for me. But I'm too scared to hit it LOL! I'm worried if I hit delete it will confirm all my pending info. Right now it just has my number and is pending location, age, sex, etc. Any one have some pointers besides just calling me a dumb shit?[/QUOTE]Don't do ANYTHING!! You're absolutely right about if you click the button it'll confirm your information. As of right now they have no evidence against you, just a phone number that you can easily feign ignorance with. Who knows how your number got there, maybe they're just randomly texting numbers all claiming the same thing and just hoping someone replies??

I know telemarketers and scammers run a bot program that dials a list of numbers that they've entered just to see what numbers are active and they flag them to focus on. Personally if I get a call from a number I don't know I just let it go to voice mail, if it's actually important they'll leave me a voicemail.

P.S. Actually there is something you should do, 1) Get a new number and 2) GET A BURN PHONE IDIOT.

'Pyth.

IPhone has a burner app. Creates a new number cost about 6 bucks a month text and talk. I've tested this and it cannot be traced back to you unless someone actually gets your phone. You can burn the number at anytime and it works great. Plus you don't need to explain the second phone. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=PhrogGunner;2174376]Well guys I listened to no ones advice on here and never got a Jax Teller burner phone for all my criminal activities. I am now on the freakin EXPOSING JOHNS site. Just my number. I got a text a few days ago saying it was there. There is a button to push that says it will delete my info for me. But I'm too scared to hit it LOL! I'm worried if I hit delete it will confirm all my pending info. Right now it just has my number and is pending location, age, sex, etc. Any one have some pointers besides just calling me a dumb shit?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhrogGunner;2174376]Well guys I listened to no ones advice on here and never got a Jax Teller burner phone for all my criminal activities. I am now on the freakin EXPOSING JOHNS site. Just my number. I got a text a few days ago saying it was there. There is a button to push that says it will delete my info for me. But I'm too scared to hit it LOL! I'm worried if I hit delete it will confirm all my pending info. Right now it just has my number and is pending location, age, sex, etc. Any one have some pointers besides just calling me a dumb shit?[/QUOTE]Don't worry about it. It's a total scam to try and extort money from you. No one's even paying attention to the site but the guy's that are unfortunate enough to be listed there. The assholes that came up with this site are con men looking to get money from you, period. They post fake BP ads hoping you will call or text and then they run your number trying to get information about you to list on the site, they will text you saying your listed on the site and you can pay to have your name and info removed, it's total BS. You especially vulnerable if you have a facebook page, that's where most the pictures and info is being gathered from. JD.

[QUOTE=Golfer3354;2174928]IPhone has a burner app. Creates a new number cost about 6 bucks a month text and talk. I've tested this and it cannot be traced back to you unless someone actually gets your phone. You can burn the number at anytime and it works great. Plus you don't need to explain the second phone. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Very interesting idea. Using a single phone solves some potential complications of a 2 phone approach. What's the name of the app?

I cannot believe the Feds or State LE cannot subpoena source records and find out where the phone call was made and who owned the phone. In this Big Bro World nothing is sacred anymore. Never let your guard down and think there is anything fool proof.

[QUOTE=Golfer3354;2174928]IPhone has a burner app. Creates a new number cost about 6 bucks a month text and talk. I've tested this and it cannot be traced back to you unless someone actually gets your phone. You can burn the number at anytime and it works great. Plus you don't need to explain the second phone. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

Same with GPS. Have the girl give you an adress of a close coffee shop or resturant and go old fashioned from there.

[QUOTE=BrevardNewbie;2175073]I cannot believe the Feds or State LE cannot subpoena source records and find out where the phone call was made and who owned the phone. In this Big Bro World nothing is sacred anymore. Never let your guard down and think there is anything fool proof.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrevardNewbie;2175073]I cannot believe the Feds or State LE cannot subpoena source records and find out where the phone call was made and who owned the phone. In this Big Bro World nothing is sacred anymore. Never let your guard down and think there is anything fool proof.[/QUOTE]I don't think that the extortionists can subpoena that info for blackmail purposes. On the other hand, I wouldn't advise using an Iphone or Galaxy app on your regular phone for anything if your wife or girlfriend has access to your phone.

I was just making a general comment that "most" communication devices are traceable if LE gets involved. I personally rarely use a phone for my communication with the ladies. I prefer using a texting program App (Heywire) that is used at my local free Starbucks or Publix via their internet. It would be very hard to trace my name, etc the way I conduct business in the hobby. Of course nothing is 100% full proof but an extortionist would never be able to identify me. If I need to call for directions I use an internet phone via the ATT 3 G service on my iPad that uses an alias name. This is all for my safety and protection. You can never be too safe in general.

BN.

[QUOTE=JavaJunkie;2176137]I don't think that the extortionists can subpoena that info for blackmail purposes. On the other hand, I wouldn't advise using an Iphone or Galaxy app on your regular phone for anything if your wife or girlfriend has access to your phone.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys, I just talked with Amor and she has a problem I need to address. Someone is giving her # out to other providers. She is very upset about it. She feels like it is disrespectful to her to share her # with someone when you never asked her if it would be ok. I can save you some time on that subject too. She doesn't want her # ever given to anyone else, member or provider unless it comes through me. I have been very easy to work with for all of you guys, and it is what SHE is comfortable with. She is a great provider and as far as I know, has treated everyone with nothing but respect and top notch service. Please return the favor to her and treat her with the same respect. She has a family, and you all know that she is doing this solely to support and take care of her kids. She is rare in this hobby. Please don't screw up a good thing!

Lou.

[QUOTE=BrevardNewbie;2176329]I was just making a general comment that "most" communication devices are traceable if LE gets involved. I personally rarely use a phone for my communication with the ladies. I prefer using a texting program App (Heywire) that is used at my local free Starbucks or Publix via their internet. It would be very hard to trace my name, etc the way I conduct business in the hobby. Of course nothing is 100% full proof but an extortionist would never be able to identify me. If I need to call for directions I use an internet phone via the ATT 3 G service on my iPad that uses an alias name. This is all for my safety and protection. You can never be too safe in general.

BN.[/QUOTE]And remember, there is now a criminal charge for using a 2 way device in the commission of any crime. They have all kinds of ways to trace every damn thing you do. An unregistered throw away phone is your best bet, but it has to be thrown away BEFORE it can be used against you. So if you have it on your person or in your car when arrested, you are screwed. Our best bet is to eliminate both political parties and just vote for people who will do a good job and not affiliated with any social group or order. Maybe then, laws can become reasonable and not based on social order or religion.

[QUOTE=BrevardNewbie;2176329]I was just making a general comment that "most" communication devices are traceable if LE gets involved. I personally rarely use a phone for my communication with the ladies. I prefer using a texting program App (Heywire) that is used at my local free Starbucks or Publix via their internet. It would be very hard to trace my name, etc the way I conduct business in the hobby. Of course nothing is 100% full proof but an extortionist would never be able to identify me. If I need to call for directions I use an internet phone via the ATT 3 G service on my iPad that uses an alias name. This is all for my safety and protection. You can never be too safe in general.

BN.[/QUOTE]Personally, I use Google Voice with a proxy. It keeps things simpler.

I just noticed I am now a SM! I'd like to thank my mom & dad, without them I wouldn't be here. In all seriousness, I really do appreciate all of those that have helped me along in this hobby since I have been a member on this site. I have been a LONG time hobbyist and I have to say, this site takes this hobby to a better level. Thank you Al Gore for giving us the internet so we can get lots of fine pussy!

Lou.

I too use Google Voice. It's nowhere near perfect, but does OK. However, those with some coin can now get this thing. Have to have it imported because well. I'm sure US laws want some accountability on your device.

[URL]https://www.blackphone.ch[/URL]

[QUOTE=DK0047;2176538]Personally, I use Google Voice with a proxy. It keeps things simpler.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LittleLou;2177310]I just noticed I am now a SM! I'd like to thank my mom & dad, without them I wouldn't be here. In all seriousness, I really do appreciate all of those that have helped me along in this hobby since I have been a member on this site. I have been a LONG time hobbyist and I have to say, this site takes this hobby to a better level. Thank you Al Gore for giving us the internet so we can get lots of fine pussy!

Lou.[/QUOTE]Lou,

Congratulations and thanks for your past help and recommendations.

Pic Mike.

[QUOTE=LittleLou;2177310]I just noticed I am now a SM! I'd like to thank my mom & dad, without them I wouldn't be here. In all seriousness, I really do appreciate all of those that have helped me along in this hobby since I have been a member on this site. I have been a LONG time hobbyist and I have to say, this site takes this hobby to a better level. Thank you Al Gore for giving us the internet so we can get lots of fine pussy!

Lou.[/QUOTE]Congrats to Lou on becoming a SM and more importantly regarding Amor it is inconceivable to me how anyone thinks it is ok to give out her phone number without permission from Lou or at this stage of the game Amor herself. She wants to be UTR or would be openly advertising on BP or even CL. We MUST act responsibly and protect these girls. Information is great but it can cut two ways.

[QUOTE=RayRay201;2178072]Congrats to Lou on becoming a SM and more importantly regarding Amor it is inconceivable to me how anyone thinks it is ok to give out her phone number without permission from Lou or at this stage of the game Amor herself. She wants to be UTR or would be openly advertising on BP or even CL. We MUST act responsibly and protect these girls. Information is great but it can cut two ways.[/QUOTE]Ray, thank you for the congrats. Amor is really stressed out over this. She is now getting calls from blocked #'s that call over and over. She had over 40 calls from a blocked # last night between 12 am and 2 am. Everyone knows not to even call her that time of the night in the first place. They damn well know not to be calling her blocking their #. It takes just one idiot to screw things up for everyone. If you are the dumbass calling her 40 times (40! In the middle of the night from a blocked #, please stop the bull shit! I don't think one guy that has seen Amor has had a bad experience with her. Do the right thing, treat her with respect please. She is not a SW or a BP girl with a drug habit. She gives off the charts service IMO and if you treat her right she will treat you right. If she finds out you are screwing around with her (calling 40 times in the middle of the night from a blocked #) she will probably not treat you how you were hoping she would. I hate having to even post about this stupid shit.

Lou.

[QUOTE=LittleLou;2176450]Hey guys, I just talked with Amor and she has a problem I need to address. Someone is giving her # out to other providers. She is very upset about it. She feels like it is disrespectful to her to share her # with someone when you never asked her if it would be ok. I can save you some time on that subject too. She doesn't want her # ever given to anyone else, member or provider unless it comes through me. I have been very easy to work with for all of you guys, and it is what SHE is comfortable with. She is a great provider and as far as I know, has treated everyone with nothing but respect and top notch service. Please return the favor to her and treat her with the same respect. She has a family, and you all know that she is doing this solely to support and take care of her kids. She is rare in this hobby. Please don't screw up a good thing!

Lou.[/QUOTE]Giving her number to anyone that hasn't been screened by Lou is disrespectful to both Amor and Lou. Someone giving her number to another provider is one of the dumbest things I can imagine. There are some unstable people in this hobby on both sides of the equation and you put people at risk with this. She is a delightful woman in many different ways and it really saddens me that she (and Lou) are not being treated with appropriate care and consideration.

Hate to join the band wagon, but Lou you deserved the level up to SM. For the newbies out there this is a prime example of why we are tight lipped about experiences and utr. I think the members that follow the nature of the forum can agree that we have an obligation to the ladies we see regardless of the profession they are in. Utr's especially are prized because they are usually more pleasurable to be with, and generally offer more of a quality experience. Hopefully she doesn't pull away because of this.

I don't post but I'm making an exception, I been in the hobby for many years an Lou has help me out on this forum. So Congrats.

On another note, UTR providers are UTR for a reason. So think, think, think. Enough.