The Prickyard

FF and IG123 moles or LE? Been trolling around for almost a decade on these forums and that has to be one of the most ridiculous accusations I've seen during that time. I don't contribute often, and usually just to comment when I do. This is one of those times. Questioning Senior Members who have provided countless meaningful contributions, including most of the baseline information for newbies, by an apparent recent member of the boards is almost comical.

I agree with A2 regarding responding to those who are "pot stirrers". I learned a long time ago that those who stir pots are better left there in the kitchen and not worthy of a response. Just smile, laugh inwardly, and maybe even pity them. Correct the inaccurate info and leave the remainder alone.

[blue]You forgot put them on your ignore list. When trolls can't get anybody to respond, and remember it doesn't matter what you say, they just want you talking to them, then they go troll somewhere else.

It's not about pussy for them, it's about getting people to argue.

A2[/blue]

Hey Kyussfan, I'm a crazy, old man. Hell I can't remember shit from one day to the next. So I never lie, because most lie need many more to cover up the first, or your shits in the wind, and your lie is found out.

I'm glad IA and JB (think they are English Professors in real life) don't pick on me for my lack of posting skills and grammar we would have a post marathon! Seams like lots of folks are just having FUN! Play safe, do your research, give and get respect, find some crazy good and TPHFB!

BG,

[QUOTE=Kyussfan;3290600]My neighbors cousin told me you ARE a cop.

A Crazy old person.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigGuyUAteMe;3291386]Play safe, do your research, give and get respect, find some crazy good and TPHFB![/QUOTE]My friend, you will be proud to know that TPHFB has made its way beyond this forum and into FB.

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

[QUOTE=DaveRue;3291041]Its just a bunch of freckles.[/QUOTE]A mole is just a Freckle with an attitude.

[QUOTE=IndyAnon;3291119]There are subtypes of an Ad Hominem:

Poisoning the well a subtype of ad hominem presenting adverse information about a target person with the intention of discrediting everything that the target person says.

Abusive fallacy a subtype of ad hominem that verbally abuses the opponent rather than arguing about the originally proposed argument.

Appeal to motive a subtype of ad hominem that dismisses an idea by questioning the motives of its proposer.

Tone policing a subtype of ad hominem focusing on emotion behind a message rather than the message itself as a discrediting tactic.

Traitorous critic fallacy (ergo decedo) a subtype of ad hominem where a critic's perceived affiliation is seen as the underlying reason for the criticism and the critic is asked to stay away from the issue altogether.[/QUOTE][B]And yet, still no attempt "to dissuade others from posting pertinent information about a sting" exists. [/B]

The problem you are having, and will continue to have, you are so focused on trying to score points against your self-declared enemies that you completely miss the content.

Let it go. You're not going to win. There's nothing to win. No crown. No trophy. No accolades from adoring fans. Not even a free upsize of your fries at McDonald's.

None of the people on your hit list are crying themselves to sleep. None are living in fear that you will target them. No one is choosing you as a role model. You have ceased to have any credibility.

However, I do enjoy the eye-roll exercises, so please don't take this an attempt to dissuade you from contributing your valuable input.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;3291451][B]And yet, still no attempt "to dissuade others from posting pertinent information about a sting" exists. [/B][/QUOTE]I appreciate your input. I think, we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

[QUOTE=IndyAnon;3291189]In this instance, another person believed your friend [B]could[/B] be compromised and pointed out the issue. No one said see her or don't see her, just to be aware of the issue. People get questioned by LE all the time that doesn't mean anything.

I get it. She's your friend and you want to defend her. However, this is drawing more attention to the incident then simply acknowledging it and clarifying any misunderstandings.[/QUOTE]So I will. Untouchable thank you for the post and warning about the sting. You didn't embellish on the incident like some others. You pointed out the facts. You provided a warning to others that might have been headed to that location. Plus you are a good driver because her car arrived home safe and sound.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3294923]
Sorry Samantha, you wasted 2 hours of my time and all you had to do was answer the door, invite me in and say I wasn't your type. I would have had no issue with that. Instead you played it your way and sent hubby after me. Good luck Samantha, maybe you should look for another profession. Her pics to be posted soon on you-Tube. I knew I should have listened to my eyes because her pics didn't show any freckles![/QUOTE]

Outing someone because you are pissed at them isn't cool at all.

Dani if you're reading this shoot me a pm. At least you two can be on equal footing sans pseudonyms.

[QUOTE=IndyAnon;3295030]Outing someone because you are pissed at them isn't cool at all.

Dani if you're reading this shoot me a pm. At least you two can be on equal footing sans pseudonyms.[/QUOTE]I read the original post and I am 100% behind FreckleFreak on this one and don't understand why you are not. No one deserves to go through that. Isn't that why we are here, to support each other with finding the good and weeding out the bad?

[QUOTE=StonesRoller69;3295037]I read the original post and I am 100% behind FreckleFreak on this one and don't understand why you are not. No one deserves to go through that. Isn't that why we are here, to support each other with finding the good and weeding out the bad?[/QUOTE]If a newbie with 6 posts had posted an identical review, IA would have been his best buddy, especially if FF had written a glowing review of Danni previously.

If a provider sets and appointment and doesn't keep it, that's an issue. If the provider's bf or hubby makes a threat, that's an entirely different issue.

Case 1 is, at best a flake, at worst a pharm girl.

Case 2, at best is a risk to anyone who sees her, at worst is part of another front page story.

What happens if the customer gets belligerent in that situation? What happens if someone in a nearby room calls uncle? If she was going to go dark, the time is before giving the room number. If she doesn't like the look of him, send a text to the hubby, answer the door and say "my husband is going to be here. You need to leave. Sorry. ".

When crap like this happens people should know, if it's a potential threat, people should act. If a provider plays the game that way, the provider needs to be aware of the consequences.

[QUOTE=StonesRoller69;3295037]I read the original post and I am 100% behind FreckleFreak on this one and don't understand why you are not. No one deserves to go through that. Isn't that why we are here, to support each other with finding the good and weeding out the bad?[/QUOTE]It was a shitty thing to have happened. Especially after going out of his way to help the girl.

However, two hours wasted and a bruised ego is no reason to make it personal. The guy didn't have a weapon, didn't put his hands on anyone, no one was robbed or harmed in anyway.

Post the issue, don't help them out in the future, and call it a day. (It's probably better to sleep on it before posting.).

[QUOTE=IndyAnon;3295030]Outing someone because you are pissed at them isn't cool at all.

Dani if you're reading this shoot me a pm. At least you two can be on equal footing sans pseudonyms.[/QUOTE]She's already got it, like 95 % of the providers in the tri-states.

[QUOTE=IndyAnon;3295269]It was a shitty thing to have happened. Especially after going out of his way to help the girl.

However, two hours wasted and a bruised ego is no reason to make it personal. The guy didn't have a weapon, didn't put his hands on anyone, no one was robbed or harmed in anyway.

Post the issue, don't help them out in the future, and call it a day. (It's probably better to sleep on it before posting.).[/QUOTE]It's easy to get in pissing matches between provider and providee (sic) anytime anything except straight up drop the cash and get served occurs. This case doesn't set at that level. Anytime a provider brings a third party into the equation after arrangements are made and has led you to a door front, unless that third party is a hot female who is also going to suck your dick, or at least someone with whom you are willing to play with however your inclinations and requirements fall, it is very personal. I am not saying I do exactly, but I know many providees, I love doing that, that will be packing on first dates, legally of course I am sure, and that can get being fronted by a BF real personal, real quick. This one had a calm and quiet ending, but it obviously could have gone very badly. That ending does have a place in the thread it was reported though, as others have said, it is what this place is about, good or bad. The usage of a real name, though it really reveals nothing being only a given name, and tons of info on her is easily findable thanks to that damn interweb, is not cool. That is a hot button issue for me here with people here quite often. In the end, it disappoints me. I liked Danni. She had killer eyes like a friend of mine now gone, and a body made for sin, and a mind and spirit that were willing to take it there smilingly. There were obvious issues, but fortunately for all, none like this. It might have made for a very unhappy ending. You know, you never want to cross a man with nothing to lose.

[QUOTE=IndyAnon;3295269]It was a shitty thing to have happened. Especially after going out of his way to help the girl.

However, two hours wasted and a bruised ego is no reason to make it personal. The guy didn't have a weapon, didn't put his hands on anyone, no one was robbed or harmed in anyway.

Post the issue, don't help them out in the future, and call it a day. (It's probably better to sleep on it before posting.).[/QUOTE]I agree with your last (parenthetical) sentence. I hope you followed your own advice and didn't provide personal info on FreckleFreak as your post implied you were going to do. Yes, he might have handled it in a better way but any actions you take to involve yourself will in the end make you the true villain here.

[QUOTE=Avagddu;3291338]
[blue]Remember it doesn't matter what you say, they just want you talking to them.
It's not about pussy for them, it's about getting people to argue.
A2[/blue][/QUOTE]In all this back and forth today, remember this comment by A2 from a recent post. A VERY select few members of this forum (maybe only 1 or 2) are going to contradict and criticize what any of us do or say. This is especially true in regards to a couple of the very active Senior Members. If FF never shared this story but it came out later having happened to someone else, that very same member would have chimed in saying if FF had shared the story maybe it wouldn't have happened to another member.

Will say anything to start and then fuel an argument!

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick In The Yard.

[QUOTE=IndyAnon;3295030]Dani if you're reading this shoot me a pm. At least you two can be on equal footing sans pseudonyms.[/QUOTE]There is no reason for you to wait for a PM from Danni. I am happy to provide you with her phone number you two deserve each other. The area code is north of Indy, 382-5968. If you have problems reading the numeric values try dialing it with the old style telephone exchange names. Happy hunting my friend.

[QUOTE=Ilapp;3295351]She's already got it, like 95 % of the providers in the tri-states.[/QUOTE]Perhaps someone here should tape a cucumber to their leg and wear some David Lee Roth spandex, and maybe they'll finally get the attention which they so desperately seek.

Fan of Kyuss.

[QUOTE=Kyussfan;3296340]Perhaps someone here should tape a cucumber to their leg and wear some David Lee Roth spandex, and maybe they'll finally get the attention which they so desperately seek.

Fan of Kyuss.[/QUOTE]I already tried it with a maybe too ripe banana, but nobody told me you were supposed to tie it in the front. And use a cucumber you say, where were you with this advice for me when I could have used it. I went to the store this morning and got one of those long really skinny ones so the girls will think I'm British. Got a couple they make those tasty gherkins out of too for those that already know me.

I have been staying in the cave, not playing for awhile. The pussy has stopped coming my way.

I can't believe so much shit is happening, but then again sometimes it only takes one to stir the shit pot, and I'd bet money they would lick the spoon. Keep up the good vibes, I love reading this shit!!

BG,

P.S., I miss seeing a few of you!! Play safe, have fun, give and get respect, do your research, find some crazy good and TPHFB!

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3295943]In all this back and forth today, remember this comment by A2 from a recent post. A VERY select few members of this forum (maybe only 1 or 2) are going to contradict and criticize what any of us do or say. This is especially true in regards to a couple of the very active Senior Members. If FF never shared this story but it came out later having happened to someone else, that very same member would have chimed in saying if FF had shared the story maybe it wouldn't have happened to another member.

Will say anything to start and then fuel an argument!

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick In The Yard.[/QUOTE]

Be careful wearing spandex and packing a gherkin, people will think your smuggling grapes (berry & twig).

BG,

[QUOTE=Ilapp;3296454]I already tried it with a maybe too ripe banana, but nobody told me you were supposed to tie it in the front. And use a cucumber you say, where were you with this advice for me when I could have used it. I went to the store this morning and got one of those long really skinny ones so the girls will think I'm British. Got a couple they make those tasty gherkins out of too for those that already know me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ilapp;3296454]I already tried it with a maybe too ripe banana, but nobody told me you were supposed to tie it in the front. And use a cucumber you say, where were you with this advice for me when I could have used it. I went to the store this morning and got one of those long really skinny ones so the girls will think I'm British. Got a couple they make those tasty gherkins out of too for those that already know me.[/QUOTE]LMOA, well, I was referring to IA, who seems lonely. I'm pretty certain that you've never had any problems interacting with the ladies!!

Kyussfan.

I sent you a PM FF.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3296297]There is no reason for you to wait for a PM from Danni. I am happy to provide you with her phone number you two deserve each other. The area code is north of Indy, 382-5968. If you have problems reading the numeric values try dialing it with the old style telephone exchange names. Happy hunting my friend.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigGuyUAteMe;3296495]Be careful wearing spandex and packing a gherkin, people will think your smuggling grapes (berry & twig).

BG,[/QUOTE]It wouldn't be the first time. We should get our knees in the breeze sometime, and I promise no berries and twigs or spandex.

I knew I was old, and I'm happy to be considered your friend!

BG,

[QUOTE=Ilapp;3297775]It wouldn't be the first time. We should get our knees in the breeze sometime, and I promise no berries and twigs or spandex.[/QUOTE]

With being his friend is he can then introduce you to his other friends. Unless you have self control, one could then end up on welfare. I guess that's what's called winning for losing.

[QUOTE=BigGuyUAteMe;3298329]I knew I was old, and I'm happy to be considered your friend![/QUOTE]Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

P.S.- Depending on how picky you are, there are plenty of providers who would trade for your food stamps.

Indy you know all of us can be pussy stupid. I have been there a few more times than I want to admit. I'm just crazy about pussy.

BG,

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3298549]With being his friend is he can then introduce you to his other friends. Unless you have self control, one could then end up on welfare. I guess that's what's called winning for losing.

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

P.S.- Depending on how picky you are, there are plenty of providers who would trade for your food stamps.[/QUOTE]

Some providers will negotiate price depending on the circumstances. Some of the circumstances could be the hobbyist is willing to do something for the reduced price, like give a positive review. However there is at least ONE hobbyist on this board who continues to negotiate prices based on giving a good review yet [red]Matt[/red] you hardly ever review anybody. You even once shorted a provider $ in your sealed envelope without letting her know. That's almost the same as being a thief. It's interesting that the Urban dictionary defines [red]Chavan[/red] as "Someone who tries to steer clear of drama but instead makes it ten times worse. " So you are only making it worse on yourself because now your name is being circulated as not dangerous but just a complete jerk and a cheap one at that. Oh, by the way I'm not circulating this info. It's been around the block a few times and believe it or not I was one of the last to hear about it. So don't blame me for your poor choices.

Moral of the story. Negotiations are OK but shorting someone or being an ass about the negotiations will only reduce your opportunity to pursue a wide variety of pussy.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3311796]Some providers will negotiate price depending on the circumstances. Some of the circumstances could be the hobbyist is willing to do something for the reduced price, like give a positive review. However there is at least ONE hobbyist on this board who continues to negotiate prices based on giving a good review yet [red]Matt[/red] you hardly ever review anybody. You even once shorted a provider $ in your sealed envelope without letting her know. That's almost the same as being a thief. It's interesting that the Urban dictionary defines [red]Chavan[/red] as "Someone who tries to steer clear of drama but instead makes it ten times worse. " So you are only making it worse on yourself because now your name is being circulated as not dangerous but just a complete jerk and a cheap one at that. Oh, by the way I'm not circulating this info. It's been around the block a few times and believe it or not I was one of the last to hear about it. So don't blame me for your poor choices.

Moral of the story. Negotiations are OK but shorting someone or being an ass about the negotiations will only reduce your opportunity to pursue a wide variety of pussy.[/QUOTE]I would also discourage using reviews as a bargaining chip. It dilutes the reviews and they have less value. If a monger says provider A is great when the service is only average then the reviews are not reviews, they are paid advertisements. I come to this forum for real intell.

Just an humble opinion.

Dave.

[QUOTE=DaveRue;3312316]I would also discourage using reviews as a bargaining chip. It dilutes the reviews and they have less value. If a monger says provider A is great when the service is only average then the reviews are not reviews, they are paid advertisements. I come to this forum for real intell.

Just an humble opinion.

Dave.[/QUOTE]Of course most guys that do that have no real intention of even doing a review (although I am sure some do). It is just a tool to try and get in and out of the door cheap. I have known instances of guys seeing a lady then afterwards trying to low ball them saying they would give them a bad review if they didn't lower the price.

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

[QUOTE=DaveRue;3312316]I would also discourage using reviews as a bargaining chip. It dilutes the reviews and they have less value. If a monger says provider A is great when the service is only average then the reviews are not reviews, they are paid advertisements. I come to this forum for real intell. Just an humble opinion. Dave.[/QUOTE]I was having a conversation with a friend of mine just yesterday about the reviews on this board. His comment was about Bella and how she had some good reviews, but he didn't trust them as with most of the reviews on the board. He said there are few mongers he trusts with what they say. So a single review is just one persons opinion of that provider. A slew of reviews that are all similar in quality are a good indication of the quality of service. I know many on the board who I trust with their reviews plus I can always contact them for additional information. The key is to learn who you can trust on the reviews. Just remember that we all make the mistake of finding something great only to learn later that they have some serious issue like drugs, BF's or they are a thief that impacts their ability to provide quality or safe service. Warnings go out and the mongers that only think with the little head still see them, but that's their choice and their risk. However when they start giving good reviews of the providers that have issues then that monger goes to the bottom of my "I believe their reviews list". I have trouble believing a monger that I think is making bad choices and only thinks with his little head.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3312401]Of course most guys that do that have no real intention of even doing a review (although I am sure some do). It is just a tool to try and get in and out of the door cheap. I have known instances of guys seeing a lady then afterwards trying to low ball them saying they would give them a bad review if they didn't lower the price.[/QUOTE]Some providers actually advertise that they will give a $20+ discount for a review. Almost any monger will take her up on that offer. Smart providers will advertise "If you see me and then review me then I will give you a discount on the next visit". That is the best way to test each others honesty. Many mongers try to negotiate the deal which is fine with me even though I hardly ever do it. To me the price is the price. It's the mongers that are belligerent about negotiating or sneaky with the money that really irks me. Cheap is OK, but when a provider says "No, I don't negotiate", then make a choice to see her or not. Pushing the issue only gets you on the DO NOT SEE list.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3312750]I was having a conversation with a friend of mine just yesterday about the reviews on this board. His comment was about Bella and how she had some good reviews, but he didn't trust them as with most of the reviews on the board. He said there are few mongers he trusts with what they say. So a single review is just one persons opinion of that provider. A slew of reviews that are all similar in quality are a good indication of the quality of service. I know many on the board who I trust with their reviews plus I can always contact them for additional information. The key is to learn who you can trust on the reviews. Just remember that we all make the mistake of finding something great only to learn later that they have some serious issue like drugs, BF's or they are a thief that impacts their ability to provide quality or safe service. Warnings go out and the mongers that only think with the little head still see them, but that's their choice and their risk. However when they start giving good reviews of the providers that have issues then that monger goes to the bottom of my "I believe their reviews list". I have trouble believing a monger that I think is making bad choices and only thinks with his little head.

Some providers actually advertise that they will give a $20+ discount for a review. Almost any monger will take her up on that offer. Smart providers will advertise "If you see me and then review me then I will give you a discount on the next visit". That is the best way to test each others honesty. Many mongers try to negotiate the deal which is fine with me even though I hardly ever do it. To me the price is the price. It's the mongers that are belligerent about negotiating or sneaky with the money that really irks me. Cheap is OK, but when a provider says "No, I don't negotiate", then make a choice to see her or not. Pushing the issue only gets you on the DO NOT SEE list.[/QUOTE]This is another head scratcher for me. It sounds like someone giving directions to Chicago that take you through Ft. Wayne.

I don't see someone in order to write a review and whether or not they'll give me a discount for giving a review is not part of the selection process.

Just as my review writing skills shouldn't be part of their screening process.

"Let's see. 2 of my friends say he tried to force BBFS and another heard he is HIV positive, but he writes awesome reviews. ".

I've written a lot of reviews. I review restaurants, hotels and any place that deserves a review. I rarely write a negative review, because I do my research. I have a good idea walking in how it will turn out.

If I do write a bad review, I try to keep it objective. It might have just been an off day.

As for shorting someone, or negotiating after an agreement is reached, absolutely not. I've driven several miles back to a restaurant after realizing I forgot to leave a tip. Once I returned 3 times trying to catch the waitress to give a $4 tip.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;3313011]This is another head scratcher for me. It sounds like someone giving directions to Chicago that take you through Ft. Wayne.

I don't see someone in order to write a review and whether or not they'll give me a discount for giving a review is not part of the selection process.

Just as my review writing skills shouldn't be part of their screening process.[/QUOTE]I don't see someone either in order to write a review. However, let's face it, reviews on this board do drive in business, especially with mongers that provide good information or are known to be accurate. The other reason to write a review is to warn others not to make the same mistake you might have made or to bring out safety issues. You may not want to write anything negative but telling about your experience, even negative ones is important when gathering info about the provider when others are trying to make a decision to see her. Many on this board don't care if she was higher than a kite or had signs of drug abuse because they are cheap, the pics look good and the little head is leading the way.

My original post was about a specific monger who was promising to write a review for a huge discount and then got pissy because the provider (s) said no. He also shorted a provider a large sum of money without her knowledge and then put up post totally unrelated to any type of service she provided.

You are a honorable gent in your discretion and one I would trust on a review.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3313055]I don't see someone either in order to write a review. However, let's face it, reviews on this board do drive in business, especially with mongers that provide good information or are known to be accurate. The other reason to write a review is to warn others not to make the same mistake you might have made or to bring out safety issues. You may not want to write anything negative but telling about your experience, even negative ones is important when gathering info about the provider when others are trying to make a decision to see her. Many on this board don't care if she was higher than a kite or had signs of drug abuse because they are cheap, the pics look good and the little head is leading the way.

My original post was about a specific monger who was promising to write a review for a huge discount and then got pissy because the provider (s) said no. He also shorted a provider a large sum of money without her knowledge and then put up post totally unrelated to any type of service she provided.

You are a honorable gent in your discretion and one I would trust on a review.[/QUOTE]I have no problem putting up a negative review, but I try to limit it. We've all seen the "worst ever, stay away" reviews that turn out to be over a minor issue. We've also seen the "greatest, ATF, get her before the price goes up" reviews for average talent. Keep the reviews grounded and they help us all.

Returning to your original post:

Sometimes, if you take an expired coupon to a restaurant, they will honor it. Usually they won't. They aren't obligated, so you have no reason to be upset. At that point he's just an asshole trying to cheat someone else.

Not leaving the agreed amount is stealing. Once again, by stealing from someone who has earned the money, he's being an asshole.

Funny thing happens when you keep showing your asshole. Someone's going to fuck it.

That ripped off Journey today, not sure if you're a member here or not, but; that's some low shit.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;3314344]That ripped off Journey today, not sure if you're a member here or not, but; that's some low shit.[/QUOTE]I too would like to join in. Trust is an important part of the hobby and I don't care if you are a provider or a hobbyist when you cross the line of fucking someone over it's time for you to be reported. I sincerely hope Journey shares any and all info about the guy that screwed her over with those that she trusts. This guy needs to go on the blacklist both the local one and the national one. Providers need to be warned.

[QUOTE=Slugger22;3314039]I've seen this one several times this week and didn't see any signs of drug use. She gave one of the best BBBJ I've had in a while. Went at it for almost 20 min with no complaints. I've seen references to no feet fetish on here and I'm happy to report that the feet were fine not a mark on them. Give her a chance guys she seems like a sweet and down to earth person. The only negatives are she smelled like smoke which I'm not a fan of and she doesn't have her own place car date only.[/QUOTE]Let's review the facts:

1. On my first visit with her I arrived early while a monger was with her so she had some cash to spend. Shortly after he left, cash in hand she went to a black Mercedes Benz, AA driving, and exchanged money for substance. Shortly after that she met up with a white SUV, once again money for substance.

2. She stayed at my house one night and was bouncing off the walls all night. The only time she was calm was when she was having sex.

3. She was living in a car at her cousins place when the temps were around freezing, however every time I got off my graveyard shift she was no where to be found in any car at her cousins. Not even frost on a window to be found from her breath at zero degrees. Oh, the frost was her description of her living conditions, not mine.

4. Once I went to pick her up at her parents house. She needed money for a room. She was with her cousin and on the way home. She wouldn't let me meet her at the hotel and pay for the room because she had no I. D. And her mother had a discount card for the LOL, Super 8! I parked across the street and she kept texting me she would be home soon. After about 15 minutes she texted me she was home and I could come over. Interesting that at no time did any other car arrive at her parents house. Oh, did I say she had spent the night at her cousins in the car and hadn't been home?

5. I was at her hotel and she needed to pay for the room. It was about $80. I gave it to her and she came back that and said she needed to pay her mother back $40 so she needed more money. I gave her the additional money. She went and paid for the room, at least that's what she told me and then she said someone was coming over to get the money for her mom. Moms driving habits are a whole other story. The same white SUV showed up that I saw at my first visit and she exchanged money for a packet. By the way a half a gram costs about $120.

6. The night I was done she had scheduled an appointment with a friend of mine that I set up. She was going to pay me back what I had lent her that day. She said she couldn't see him because her kids had a doctors appointment at guess what 6:30 PM, really? Then they went back to the hotel. So I went to the hotel and guess what no kids were to be found. However the pharmacist did return because another monger had seen her earlier.

There are more facts but I believe these are enough. If you remember other reviews have been posted by other mongers about being ripped off. Lastly, she advertises on BP for car dates. She has been doing this for quite some time and used to have an incall but now is doing car dates? If you would think with your big head instead of your little head you would realize that just this fact means she is an active addict. Glad you enjoy the service and enabling her, but then what do I know?

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3314880]Let's review the facts:

1. On my first visit with her I arrived early while a monger was with her so she had some cash to spend. Shortly after he left, cash in hand she went to a black Mercedes Benz, AA driving, and exchanged money for substance. Shortly after that she met up with a white SUV, once again money for substance.

2. She stayed at my house one night and was bouncing off the walls all night. The only time she was calm was when she was having sex.

3. She was living in a car at her cousins place when the temps were around freezing, however every time I got off my graveyard shift she was no where to be found in any car at her cousins. Not even frost on a window to be found from her breath at zero degrees. Oh, the frost was her description of her living conditions, not mine.

4. Once I went to pick her up at her parents house. She needed money for a room. She was with her cousin and on the way home. She wouldn't let me meet her at the hotel and pay for the room because she had no I. D. And her mother had a discount card for the LOL, Super 8! I parked across the street and she kept texting me she would be home soon. After about 15 minutes she texted me she was home and I could come over. Interesting that at no time did any other car arrive at her parents house. Oh, did I say she had spent the night at her cousins in the car and hadn't been home?

5. I was at her hotel and she needed to pay for the room. It was about $80. I gave it to her and she came back that and said she needed to pay her mother back $40 so she needed more money. I gave her the additional money. She went and paid for the room, at least that's what she told me and then she said someone was coming over to get the money for her mom. Moms driving habits are a whole other story. The same white SUV showed up that I saw at my first visit and she exchanged money for a packet. By the way a half a gram costs about $120.

6. The night I was done she had scheduled an appointment with a friend of mine that I set up. She was going to pay me back what I had lent her that day. She said she couldn't see him because her kids had a doctors appointment at guess what 6:30 PM, really? Then they went back to the hotel. So I went to the hotel and guess what no kids were to be found. However the pharmacist did return because another monger had seen her earlier.

There are more facts but I believe these are enough. If you remember other reviews have been posted by other mongers about being ripped off. Lastly, she advertises on BP for car dates. She has been doing this for quite some time and used to have an incall but now is doing car dates? If you would think with your big head instead of your little head you would realize that just this fact means she is an active addict. Glad you enjoy the service and enabling her, but then what do I know?[/QUOTE]Check your inbox.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3312750]I was having a conversation with a friend of mine just yesterday about the reviews on this board. His comment was about Bella and how she had some good reviews, but he didn't trust them as with most of the reviews on the board. He said there are few mongers he trusts with what they say. So a single review is just one persons opinion of that provider. A slew of reviews that are all similar in quality are a good indication of the quality of service. I know many on the board who I trust with their reviews plus I can always contact them for additional information. The key is to learn who you can trust on the reviews. Just remember that we all make the mistake of finding something great only to learn later that they have some serious issue like drugs, BF's or they are a thief that impacts their ability to provide quality or safe service. Warnings go out and the mongers that only think with the little head still see them, but that's their choice and their risk. However when they start giving good reviews of the providers that have issues then that monger goes to the bottom of my "I believe their reviews list". I have trouble believing a monger that I think is making bad choices and only thinks with his little head.

Some providers actually advertise that they will give a $20+ discount for a review. Almost any monger will take her up on that offer. Smart providers will advertise "If you see me and then review me then I will give you a discount on the next visit". That is the best way to test each others honesty. Many mongers try to negotiate the deal which is fine with me even though I hardly ever do it. To me the price is the price. It's the mongers that are belligerent about negotiating or sneaky with the money that really irks me. Cheap is OK, but when a provider says "No, I don't negotiate", then make a choice to see her or not. Pushing the issue only gets you on the DO NOT SEE list.[/QUOTE]It seems that the " negotiating " term has been used more frequently than before. I don't know if it's because of what has happened to BP and some of the people that use BP are coming over to this site or not. I have not had to deal with this issue until recently. I look at it as a disrespect factor. If you want to see a provider bad enough then the rates should not be a issue and you would have no issue being screened. (another topic but won't discuss at this time) .

When I have someone that wants to " negotiate ' rates or tell me he's used to paying this amount or tell me he contacted someone else and they are willing to see him for this amount. Ummmm. Then go ahead and see them then. Should be that easy right?

I Recently had someone that asked if I would match another providers rates. Ummm last time I checked this is NOT Walmart. That was probably most insulting thing that anyone could do.

It seems more regular members (couple seniors out there) think this practice is going to work and it may on some but it surely will bite you in the ass one day.

I do understand that having a positive review is wonderful and great marketing to have but surely I can't be the only one out there that thinks if you do a good job regardless of your rates someone is going to give you a positive review anyways.

[QUOTE=Slugger22;3315235]Check your inbox.[/QUOTE]I was only posting the facts about her addiction. Like I said in my PM, I'm not mad at you, just irked with your insistent claims that she isn't an addict. That's her story, her words, her lies, her deception. I just wanted the facts presented so others can make an informed choice. That choice would be do you want to enable an addict or not. Life is full of choices.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3316148]I was only posting the facts about her addiction. Like I said in my PM, I'm not mad at you, just irked with your insistent claims that she isn't an addict. That's her story, her words, her lies, her deception. I just wanted the facts presented so others can make an informed choice. That choice would be do you want to enable an addict or not. Life is full of choices.[/QUOTE]The one thing everyone needs to remember:

[B]Addicts will always lie about their addiction. [/B]

Once they are identified as an addict, first assumption is that they are still an addict. This is especially true if they don't have their life together, or if they are telling sob stories about people doing them wrong.

You're probably not going to see obvious usage, because they will go to great lengths to hide their addiction. They will brag about not using.

You can choose to see one, but be absolutely certain before reporting them as clean.