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That's just great. All the crap happening in the city and this is # 1.
[QUOTE=Syberman2006;2366627]Here is the news story, it is my guess the advertisements are down. Hope this helps:
[URL]http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/02/12/exclusive-i-team-gets-first-look-inside-prostitution-sting-operation/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Syberman2006;2366627]Here is the news story, it is my guess the advertisements are down. Hope this helps:
[URL]http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/02/12/exclusive-i-team-gets-first-look-inside-prostitution-sting-operation/[/URL][/QUOTE]As I mentioned several times before, this is LE's modus operandi! They set up in a hotel because they can lure 5+ guys in an hour to come to them. Not sure how many Vice cops it takes to run one of these operations, but it is some level of manpower and for that manpower they need to be able to justify the expense. So for them it is a numbers game. They love the media along as that gets publicity and the only real tool they have is the deterrence factor that brings.
This from the article:
[I]Hes in. Okay, hes in, said Sgt. Joe Lanciano, Citywide Vice.
Once inside the female officers rooms [b]and the exchange of cash had been made[/b], police arrested the so-called Johns.[/I]
WTF! What is some dude doing handing cash to the ladies? You got to be kidding me? Wonder if she asked about sex acts and cash before the handed over money?
Guess these guys didn't have the luxury of the 22 rules and / or didn't consider a cop check necessary? Also wonder if they discussed dancing, stripping, body rub or something else as what was paid for? I suspect that either of these would have avoided a take down.
Also the article says this:
[I]Were ....going after the guys who are frequenting the prostitutes. Were taking their cell phones, were taking their money and were publicizing their names. [/I]
Huh? What is a dude doing walking into a "date" with his cell phone*? A wad of cash too? LE isn't the only one that can cause you to leave the hotel a bit "light!" Only take with you what you can afford to loose!
*If you used the cell phone to text the girl about the date and make arrangements, then taking that "evidence" in with you is insane. Use GV also!
Use some common sense when hobbying. If something feels wrong leave.
Hey, I walked away from a date the other day because the situation didn't feel right! THAT with a girl I had seen before. I still have my funds, my ride is in tact and I wasn't personally injured.
Stay safe!
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2367050]As I mentioned several times before, this is LE's modus operandi! They set up in a hotel because they can lure 5+ guys in an hour to come to them. Not sure how many Vice cops it takes to run one of these operations, but it is some level of manpower and for that manpower they need to be able to justify the expense. So for them it is a numbers game. They love the media along as that gets publicity and the only real tool they have is the deterrence factor that brings.
This from the article:
[I]Hes in. Okay, hes in, said Sgt. Joe Lanciano, Citywide Vice.
Once inside the female officers rooms [b]and the exchange of cash had been made[/b], police arrested the so-called Johns.[/I]
WTF! What is some dude doing handing cash to the ladies? You got to be kidding me? Wonder if she asked about sex acts and cash before the handed over money?
Guess these guys didn't have the luxury of the 22 rules and / or didn't consider a cop check necessary? Also wonder if they discussed dancing, stripping, body rub or something else as what was paid for? I suspect that either of these would have avoided a take down.
Also the article says this:
[I]Were ....going after the guys who are frequenting the prostitutes. Were taking their cell phones, were taking their money and were publicizing their names. [/I]
Huh? What is a dude doing walking into a "date" with his cell phone*? A wad of cash too? LE isn't the only one that can cause you to leave the hotel a bit "light!" Only take with you what you can afford to loose!
*If you used the cell phone to text the girl about the date and make arrangements, then taking that "evidence" in with you is insane. Use GV also!
Use some common sense when hobbying. If something feels wrong leave.
Hey, I walked away from a date the other day because the situation didn't feel right! THAT with a girl I had seen before. I still have my funds, my ride is in tact and I wasn't personally injured.
Stay safe![/QUOTE]Hi,
I agree with you. I can say this, before you see a gal do your investigation. Google search, google imagines, other reviews, make sure she is legit!. Philly ramped things up a few years back and is now crazy INHO. Just be careful, do your homework and stay safe.
IMHO unless you're wearing a go-pro camera, once you enter the sting you're getting stung. Per the police report you would have said whatever they needed you to say in order to make an arrest. Your face is in the media, and they may offer you something small so you don't fight the charge. Damage is already done.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2367050]As I mentioned several times before, this is LE's modus operandi! They set up in a hotel because they can lure 5+ guys in an hour to come to them. Not sure how many Vice cops it takes to run one of these operations, but it is some level of manpower and for that manpower they need to be able to justify the expense. So for them it is a numbers game. They love the media along as that gets publicity and the only real tool they have is the deterrence factor that brings.
This from the article:
[I]Hes in. Okay, hes in, said Sgt. Joe Lanciano, Citywide Vice.
Once inside the female officers rooms [b]and the exchange of cash had been made[/b], police arrested the so-called Johns.[/I]
WTF! What is some dude doing handing cash to the ladies? You got to be kidding me? Wonder if she asked about sex acts and cash before the handed over money?
Guess these guys didn't have the luxury of the 22 rules and / or didn't consider a cop check necessary? Also wonder if they discussed dancing, stripping, body rub or something else as what was paid for? I suspect that either of these would have avoided a take down.
Also the article says this:
[I]Were ....going after the guys who are frequenting the prostitutes. Were taking their cell phones, were taking their money and were publicizing their names. [/I]
Huh? What is a dude doing walking into a "date" with his cell phone*? A wad of cash too? LE isn't the only one that can cause you to leave the hotel a bit "light!" Only take with you what you can afford to loose!
*If you used the cell phone to text the girl about the date and make arrangements, then taking that "evidence" in with you is insane. Use GV also!
Use some common sense when hobbying. If something feels wrong leave.
Hey, I walked away from a date the other day because the situation didn't feel right! THAT with a girl I had seen before. I still have my funds, my ride is in tact and I wasn't personally injured.
Stay safe![/QUOTE]
So when the hell does this become entrapment?
P chop.
BEWARE. Thief. !
[QUOTE=Arobins;2368082]IMHO unless you're wearing a go-pro camera, once you enter the sting you're getting stung. Per the police report you would have said whatever they needed you to say in order to make an arrest. Your face is in the media, and they may offer you something small so you don't fight the charge. Damage is already done.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, sure, Cops can always charge you with anything at anytime. But that doesn't mean an over-worked prosecutor is going to be able to make it stick. If one is afraid of LE encounters then AMPs might be a better game? Point is... don't run scared, just run knowledgeable and safe.
Look, bottom line is that [b]paying for a rubdown, dancing, stripping or some other service is NOT illegal[/b]. You can pay a girl to read Emily Dickinson to you if you want ...if that heats you up. If you want to talk to all of your potential dates about illegal things that include "sex acts for money," then hey, have at it! Yeah, in those cases, [I]you would have said whatever they needed you to say in order to make an arrest,[/I] so look to end up on the evening news. But if you have an agreement with your date for a rub or dancing then what happens after that might be hard to prove was paid for.
Not that I have omnipotent observations but.... me thinks the decoy / [b]cop is going to try to get you to say some form of "sex for money" in their presence.[/b] In the recent cases, sounded like there were two girls in the room (red flag for a couple of reasons). Also I'd assume that the room was bugged. Have not seen cases where phone conversations or emails were used as the "proof" for solicitation without the dude offering "sex for money" in person. Connecting a 'voice on a phone,' a phone number or emails with the live person standing in the room would require the kind of time (warrants, subpoena) that just aren't worth it for a misdemeanor. But hey, call or text them from your cell phone registered in your name and by all means carry that phone into the date! NOT!
My gosh, how hard can this be? Do we need a [b] 22 Rules for Dating off BP?[/b]
1) Look at the pics. If it is too good to be true (TGTBT), then it probably is. Top pros with websites and Eros level prices are usually the exception.
2) Check out the images. Use Tineye or Google Image.
3) What do the pictures tell you? Traveler? Regular poster? Fake pictures?
4) Fake pictures are ones that are borrowed from another website. Fake pics are also pro level shots "altered" to look amateur like. If you can't tell the difference. Back off and watch the posts for 3-months until your eye is trained.
5) Travelers, while they maybe legit and good dates can tend to have low incentive to provide a great date under the hit & run philosophy. If your not looking for repeat clients because your gone in a week, then level of service isn't of concern. Also watch for Vegas and NV area codes! You want to avoid the hardcore pro girls who know how to separate you from your hard earned cash.
6) Check the girl's number with a search engine or one of the Escort Phone number search sites. Ibid all of the above.
7) Check for reviews of the girl on USA, TER or other review type sites.
8) NEVER call a potential date from your regular cell phone that has your name, address, etc, attached to it!
8) Have a Google Voice account set up. USE IT!
9) Use a burner or hobby phone with the GV.
10) Don't buy a hobby phone with a credit card, ATM card or debit card, don't set it up with your name, address, etc.
11) When contacting the girl, be polite, know your spending limits.
12) Ask the girl about the value of her time for a massage, rubdown, dancing or reading poetry to you!
13) NEVER ask about specific acts and / or the cost of such.
14) Any girl that says it is $100 for a s*ck & f*ck is breaking the law and is either a cop or is incredibly ignorant. I'd avoid both.
15) If meeting a girl at a hotel / motel get there well in advance and do some recon. See a bunch of unmarked cars in the lot? Any vans with tinted windows and people inside? Any buses or meat packing style trucks around? When approaching the room what does one hear in the hallway from the other rooms. Bunch of cops shooting the breeze, interrogating the last suspect? What happens if you walk past the door and return a few minutes later?
16) When entering the room. Is there more than one girl there? Better ask about that right away. Consider leaving.
17) Check the rest of the room or suite for other people. More than just the girl is a red flag. Check for an unlocked adjoining door.
18) When closing the door, add the security chain or throw the safety bar. Can't imagine a cop allowing them self to be cut-off from outside help like that.
19) Ask to do the cop check thing and do a verbal play-by-play! Say, "Oh yer pussy feels so wet", or "Oh your hand on my hard see*ck feels nice!" If the prosecutor is going to use a tape to nab you, might as well get embarrassing evidence included.
20) Never take anything into the date that you don't want to loose or have used against you. Suggest carrying just the Poetry Reading Fee, your copy of Emily Dickinson and a car key. Period. No cell phones, no wads of cash, no expensive jewelry, no high-priced watches, etc.
21) NEVER TALK SEX FOR MONEY! Never hand the money to the girl! Lay it on a table, TV, counter, etc, away from the girl with NO comment. You can look at it, just do not talk about it. Some slick ways to do this is have it in an envelop with the words, "fee for reading poetry" written on it. You can use the head and leave it in there and then ask the girl to check something in the bathroom for you.
22) If she makes statements about sex for money, before she is fully naked and holding yer Johnson, say "I have no idea what your talking about, I came for a rub, dancing, poetry reading" and turn and leave.
Can you follow all of these rules and still get arrested? Sure. Anything can happen. But if you follow these rules the chances of anything sticking are pretty darn slim.
Play safe, play knowledgeable.
Happy hunting!
Review Naomi from "The Bangz Collection" awesome GFE / PSE best session of 2015.
Today, 06:39 PM.
This is my first official review for 2015. I have been in a semi retirement. For the last year I have been seeing more of my local friends on the regular so I Haven't been reviewing new women as much as in the past. However Naomi is just the kind of woman to pull a man out of retirement. For me she is absolute hobbying perfection. Thank GOD she is a touring girl as she would have serious impact on my financial sanity. She is the reason I enjoy the hobby. The quest for perfection, Naomi is damn near perfection for me. 5'3 110 lbs perfectly shaped 34 c breasts, a flat stomach tiny 23" waist that tapers out to nicely shaped hips and an amazingly proportionate perky peach shaped ass. Body is magnificent! And her face is equally appealing. She is beautiful by anyones standard. Almond shaped green eyes, full DSL lips and smile that would turn the Grinch into a bunny rabbit. Attitude. She has none. She is sweet and simply a little FREAK. Like I said perfection. I don't like driving into the city these days and I am willing to compensate the ladies for their inconvenience. Naomi is not offering outcalls but money talks and bullshit walks. Naomi and I came to an agreement of terms and set an appointment for noon. She arrived at 11:50 (love it when a girl respects my time) I must add that she looked even better than her pics on her site. I had instant wood from the second I saw her. I had to do everything in my power not to jump her on the elevator ride up to my loft. What happened inside was quite memorable. Is she a GFE? YES possibly PSE but for the juicy details you have to be a member.
Round#1.
I find taking care of financials upfront without being asked is always a good start to any date. I leave my donations on my coffee table in clear site with a (pre tip) . I offered Naomi a glass of Moscato and we chatted for a few while she slipped into something more comfortable. In no time she was on her knees giving me the best DT, sloppy, BBBJ's I have had this year. Her head game is pornstar worthy. Great eye contact lots of saliva and she has the two handed twisty stroke down. Rarely do I cum from just a BJ but Naomi is exceptional. Within 5 minutes my cock was dancing a happy dance and began to spray my man juices all over her pretty lips and face. I was so excited I almost blinded her with the first spurt of cum. In the words of Maxwell Smart "missed her by that much" I was so turned on by Naomi the dick didn't even think about going soft. Naomi took a brief second to clean up and we took the party up to my bedroom.
Round #2.
Once in my bedroom it seemed only fair to pay Naomi back for the incredible BJ she has just given me. So I had her lay back while I DATY. Naomi's pussy was super sweet and juicy already and I lapped up her juices like it was dessert time. I could eat her pussy allnight long. I keep a Hitachi magic wand within reach. 2 minuets later she is screaming and squirting all over the place (I ruin more sheets this way. LOL) Naomi came several times really hard and really enjoyed the additional stimulation I was giving with the Hitachi. I grabbed a cover and suited up. WIth the Hitachi still on her clit I slid my rock hard cock into her now thoroughly soaked pussy. " Beat it up daddy" she cried out as I slammed balls deep into her. I long stroked that pretty little ass for a good 10 minutes. Would have been longer but to be hones I was out of breath so we flipped positions and I let her ride the dick. Cowgirl was incredible with her perfect breasts swaying in the air. Naomi took the initiative and dfk'd me while fucking me like no other has in a very long time. I grabbed her ass in my hands and bounced her little body up down on my shaft. What a site to see. I then proved her spinner status by flipping her around to reverse cowgirl without a dick dismount.
We were really in the freak zone so I decided to explore other options. We started with doggy. The site alone should have made me shoot my load but I had other intentions. With her ass up and face down in my pillow I long strokes that peach shaped ass. I gabbed a bottle of lube and applied a generous about to her asshole area. While fucking I inserted a finger into her ass and she really seemed to like it. Soon I had two fingers in and I heard her whisper" You want to fuck my ass". Don't have to ask me twice. So I slowly inserted my cock into her ass. Naomi squealed with delight. She was now in a sexual frenzy so I figured I might as well take shit to the next level. I grabbed a 8"dildo from my freak drawer and inserted it into her dripping pussy. She was now being DP'd and I know the neighbors heard us. "FUCK I'm CUMMING AGAIN" she screamed and that's all I needed to hear. I pulled out of her ass ripped off the condom and shot a load all over her ass and even got a lill in her hair. AMAZING! Naomi then excused her self to the restroom to clean up.
Round #3.
Thought we were done but we had some time to "blow" while she waited for her ride to pick her up. So back to the "Chair" and she made me cum for the third time in almost an hr. (I haven't cum 3 times in a session in a very long time) Just as I came her phone rang with her ride. A hug and a kiss and she was out.
Great session. A new traveling ATF! Would I repeat? EVERY FUCKIN CHANCE I GET!
[URL]http://thebangzcollection.compan[/URL]ionf. M / models /28276.
[URL]http://philadelphia.backpage.com/Fem...etite/23008851[/URL]
904-372-8073.
[QUOTE=TheyCallMeHawk;2378401]Review Naomi from "The Bangz Collection" awesome GFE / PSE best session of 2015.
Today, 06:39 PM.
This is my first official review for 2015. I have been in a semi retirement. For the last year I have been seeing more of my local friends on the regular so I Haven't been reviewing new women as much as in the past. However Naomi is just the kind of woman to pull a man out of retirement. For me she is absolute hobbying perfection. Thank GOD she is a touring girl as she would have serious impact on my financial sanity. She is the reason I enjoy the hobby. The quest for perfection, Naomi is damn near perfection for me. 5'3 110 lbs perfectly shaped 34 c breasts, a flat stomach tiny 23" waist that tapers out to nicely shaped hips and an amazingly proportionate perky peach shaped ass. Body is magnificent! And her face is equally appealing. She is beautiful by anyones standard. Almond shaped green eyes, full DSL lips and smile that would turn the Grinch into a bunny rabbit. Attitude. She has none. She is sweet and simply a little FREAK. Like I said perfection. I don't like driving into the city these days and I am willing to compensate the ladies for their inconvenience. Naomi is not offering outcalls but money talks and bullshit walks. Naomi and I came to an agreement of terms and set an appointment for noon. She arrived at 11:50 (love it when a girl respects my time) I must add that she looked even better than her pics on her site. I had instant wood from the second I saw her. I had to do everything in my power not to jump her on the elevator ride up to my loft. What happened inside was quite memorable. Is she a GFE? YES possibly PSE but for the juicy details you have to be a member.
Round#1.
I find taking care of financials upfront without being asked is always a good start to any date. I leave my donations on my coffee table in clear site with a (pre tip) . I offered Naomi a glass of Moscato and we chatted for a few while she slipped into something more comfortable. In no time she was on her knees giving me the best DT, sloppy, BBBJ's I have had this year. Her head game is pornstar worthy. Great eye contact lots of saliva and she has the two handed twisty stroke down. Rarely do I cum from just a BJ but Naomi is exceptional. Within 5 minutes my cock was dancing a happy dance and began to spray my man juices all over her pretty lips and face. I was so excited I almost blinded her with the first spurt of cum. In the words of Maxwell Smart "missed her by that much" I was so turned on by Naomi the dick didn't even think about going soft. Naomi took a brief second to clean up and we took the party up to my bedroom.
Round #2.
Once in my bedroom it seemed only fair to pay Naomi back for the incredible BJ she has just given me. So I had her lay back while I DATY. Naomi's pussy was super sweet and juicy already and I lapped up her juices like it was dessert time. I could eat her pussy allnight long. I keep a Hitachi magic wand within reach. 2 minuets later she is screaming and squirting all over the place (I ruin more sheets this way. LOL) Naomi came several times really hard and really enjoyed the additional stimulation I was giving with the Hitachi. I grabbed a cover and suited up. WIth the Hitachi still on her clit I slid my rock hard cock into her now thoroughly soaked pussy. " Beat it up daddy" she cried out as I slammed balls deep into her. I long stroked that pretty little ass for a good 10 minutes. Would have been longer but to be hones I was out of breath so we flipped positions and I let her ride the dick. Cowgirl was incredible with her perfect breasts swaying in the air. Naomi took the initiative and dfk'd me while fucking me like no other has in a very long time. I grabbed her ass in my hands and bounced her little body up down on my shaft. What a site to see. I then proved her spinner status by flipping her around to reverse cowgirl without a dick dismount.
We were really in the freak zone so I decided to explore other options. We started with doggy. The site alone should have made me shoot my load but I had other intentions. With her ass up and face down in my pillow I long strokes that peach shaped ass. I gabbed a bottle of lube and applied a generous about to her asshole area. While fucking I inserted a finger into her ass and she really seemed to like it. Soon I had two fingers in and I heard her whisper" You want to fuck my ass". Don't have to ask me twice. So I slowly inserted my cock into her ass. Naomi squealed with delight. She was now in a sexual frenzy so I figured I might as well take shit to the next level. I grabbed a 8"dildo from my freak drawer and inserted it into her dripping pussy. She was now being DP'd and I know the neighbors heard us. "FUCK I'm CUMMING AGAIN" she screamed and that's all I needed to hear. I pulled out of her ass ripped off the condom and shot a load all over her ass and even got a lill in her hair. AMAZING! Naomi then excused her self to the restroom to clean up.
Round #3.
Thought we were done but we had some time to "blow" while she waited for her ride to pick her up. So back to the "Chair" and she made me cum for the third time in almost an hr. (I haven't cum 3 times in a session in a very long time) Just as I came her phone rang with her ride. A hug and a kiss and she was out.
Great session. A new traveling ATF! Would I repeat? EVERY FUCKIN CHANCE I GET!
[URL]http://thebangzcollection.compan[/URL]ionf. M / models /28276.
[URL]http://philadelphia.backpage.com/Fem...etite/23008851[/URL]
904-372-8073.[/QUOTE]Excellent read Mr. Hawk. If she makes it to ICT I Will hit that ass.
I flew in today for some business meeting tomorrow and Tuesday. I had some time to myself this evening so I checked out backpage for some local talent. I'm not a huge fan of AMPs but will if no local girls tickle my pickle. Did a search by the airport and found Kathryn.
[URL]http://philadelphia.backpage.com/BodyRubs/real-relaxing-full-body-massage-specials-day-new-pics-independant-cmt/19639037[/URL]
She is easy to arrange an appointment with. Txt or two call. We agreed on the time and I met her an hour or so later. She is smaller than the pics, says she lost 50 lbs and I can see from the pics that she did. She looks great, still has her boobs, big natural the cups with nice perky nipples. They are beautiful! A nice firm ass and soft little belly, she is exactly what I like! Very nice, you can tell she is a CMT. The massage was excellent, and the HE was sensual and enthusiastic! 100 for the 1 hr legit massage. The topless HE was. 6 extra. A little more than what I am used to paying in other states but boys let me say it was worth it! She negotiates extras YMMV. It was a good time, I will repeat when back in Philly.
BJ-Hound.
Did the place smell like dogs, I swear they were sleeping on the massage table.
[QUOTE=Flabjhound;2392690]I flew in today for some business meeting tomorrow and Tuesday. I had some time to myself this evening so I checked out backpage for some local talent. I'm not a huge fan of AMPs but will if no local girls tickle my pickle. Did a search by the airport and found Kathryn.
[URL]http://philadelphia.backpage.com/BodyRubs/real-relaxing-full-body-massage-specials-day-new-pics-independant-cmt/19639037[/URL]
She is easy to arrange an appointment with. Txt or two call. We agreed on the time and I met her an hour or so later. She is smaller than the pics, says she lost 50 lbs and I can see from the pics that she did. She looks great, still has her boobs, big natural the cups with nice perky nipples. They are beautiful! A nice firm ass and soft little belly, she is exactly what I like! Very nice, you can tell she is a CMT. The massage was excellent, and the HE was sensual and enthusiastic! 100 for the 1 hr legit massage. The topless HE was. 6 extra. A little more than what I am used to paying in other states but boys let me say it was worth it! She negotiates extras YMMV. It was a good time, I will repeat when back in Philly.
BJ-Hound.[/QUOTE]Well if that suited ya, alrighty then!
Thanks for posting your experience.
Maybe next time one could compare it to FC or Bella?
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2393488]Well if that suited ya, alrighty then!
Thanks for posting your experience.
Maybe next time one could compare it to FC or Bella?[/QUOTE]Huh help on this acronym.
[QUOTE=NvrStlPhilly;2394304]Huh help on this acronym.[/QUOTE]Uh, I could tell you what it means, and the next time you run across something you don't know you'll have to ask, or I can teach you how to fish. And you can learn and grow in the hobby.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations[/URL]
This site is a great resource! Study it, learn from it!
Happy hunting!
[QUOTE=BottomFeeder;2392953]Did the place smell like dogs, I swear they were sleeping on the massage table.[/QUOTE]There were no dogs to be seen or smelled. She did mention that some customers had complained so she got rid of them. It's a shame, I love dogs.