[QUOTE=Wingman Todd; 1074892]Jay,
Please let it die hear!
WM. [/QUOTE]NP. Sorry for watering the grass.
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[QUOTE=Wingman Todd; 1074892]Jay,
Please let it die hear!
WM. [/QUOTE]NP. Sorry for watering the grass.
Waltmore: While I understand what you are saying and to what you are responding. I respectfully submit that you didn't reference the correct quote when you posted. You quoted and referred to WMTodd's post to Jay saying, "Please let it die here! " Todd was referring to the personal information about Callie and Kelly. NOT the recent posts about the personal information of the members here on USASG.
I second (or third) WMTodd and Kinkyguy on the Callie / Kelly matter. It is none of our business! It should not have been stated on the open board. True or not. It shouldn't matter to anyone. That information was posted by a newbie to the board who only has posted 4 times. But that person [b]SHOULD[/b] have known better and kept it to themselves. I agree with WMTodd, let us PLEASE [u]drop that matter[/u] and get on with our lives. Let Callie and Kelly be! That is not to say that you should not go see them. You [b][i]should[/i][/b] go see them! *grin*
Regarding the personal information and extortion of members on this board. That matter should not die. Let us all be vigilant and share what information we can to put a stop to this crap! This kind of stuff could be devastating to a lot of us (Waltmore excluded, I guess. I agree that sharing the names of the girls could bring retribution, but let us share anything that we can to help each other out. At very least. [u]Everyone be careful[/u]! Protect your personal information and your lives.
I know some of you won't heed the advice of the seniors who keep saying "stick with the trusted local girls". But if you want to protect yourself, that is the [b]best[/b] thing you could do. I am inferring from Kinkyguy's post that none of these heinous offenders were any of our trusted Providers. So, [u]stick with the trusted local providers[/u].
Be well, [u]Be safe[/u]!
JR.
[QUOTE=Waltmore;1074915]I do not believe this issue will die until something causes that to occur. That can take quite a lot of different reactions and most of them are not too pretty. As for me, I have literally nothing to lose and therefore I am relatively immune to such threats, this does not mean that I am financially destitute by a long way, just that threats of punk ass people trying to extort from me would be completely ineffective and quite literally would be far worse for the individual making such a demand than it would ever be for me. This I promise you is not braggadocio, just a very simple fact. The effort that should be made is to put yourself into that position and not be forced into reactionary response. As always, this is only my opinion.[/QUOTE]
It has been brought to my attention that the Mother / Daughter information that was posted here was just a fact that had been told to one person by another Hobbyist.
Fact?
That is the exact definition of hearsay isn't it. Repeating information to which you have no personal knowledge and presenting it as a fact.
I have also been told that this board was thought of as a great source of information exchange but now that is not the prevailing opinion.
I personally think that while there is occasionally some idle banter that occurs I think this board has been, is now and will continue to be a very insightful exchange of valid information. It is when hearsay and innuendo come into play where the problems begin. I think an experienced hobbyist of say at least five or more years of experience would know to keep personal information out of the equation and stick to the facts of service, price and availability rather than unsubstantiated rumor. Even if it turned out to be true it should never be posted on the open board.
Only post what you know, post it as a question within reasonable levels of respect or don't post at all.
KG
You are absolutely correct in your assessment. I don't even know how I managed to accomplish that feat. I do apologize if my statement caused any confusion. While I have your attention though I would like to enter the fray as to the Kelly / Callie debacle. Who really cares, it is not germane to any issue for me and it is simply rumor mongering unless you can back it all up with facts, but as I said previously, who cares who is related to whom! Oh and I am not immune to the other issue I would just choose to participate in a manner not in line with such a format as this.
[QUOTE=Jry Wild1; 1075120]Waltmore: While I understand what you are saying and to what you are responding. I respectfully submit that you didn't reference the correct quote when you posted. You quoted and referred to WMTodd's post to Jay saying, "Please let it die here! " Todd was referring to the personal information about Callie and Kelly. NOT the recent posts about the personal information of the members here on USASG.
I second (or third) WMTodd and Kinkyguy on the Callie / Kelly matter. It is none of our business! It should not have been stated on the open board. True or not. It shouldn't matter to anyone. That information was posted by a newbie to the board who only has posted 4 times. But that person [b]SHOULD[/b] have known better and kept it to themselves. I agree with WMTodd, let us PLEASE [u]drop that matter[/u] and get on with our lives. Let Callie and Kelly be! That is not to say that you should not go see them. You [b][i]should[/i][/b] go see them! *grin*
Regarding the personal information and extortion of members on this board. That matter should not die. Let us all be vigilant and share what information we can to put a stop to this crap! This kind of stuff could be devastating to a lot of us (Waltmore excluded, I guess. I agree that sharing the names of the girls could bring retribution, but let us share anything that we can to help each other out. At very least. [u]Everyone be careful[/u]! Protect your personal information and your lives.
I know some of you won't heed the advice of the seniors who keep saying "stick with the trusted local girls". But if you want to protect yourself, that is the [b]best[/b] thing you could do. I am inferring from Kinkyguy's post that none of these heinous offenders were any of our trusted Providers. So, [u]stick with the trusted local providers[/u].
Be well, [u]Be safe[/u]!
JR. [/QUOTE]
I went to see Sady this afternoon. I had very good time with her. Other reports that are on her are correct. Seniors and trusted members may pm me for details. And I also saved alot of money by swiching to geico. LOL.
Happy mongering.
Wdm
With all due respect, I think some are blowing the alleged mother-daughter situation way out of proportion. What difference does it make? We are here to discuss providers, right? I would understand if it was rude or hurtful, but nothing disrespectful was said at all in my opinion.
In other reports, a former provider was wished Happy Mothers Day. Is that allowed? Isn't the same thing? Someone also said that a person's house was dirty. Is that allowed? That's probably less respectful than what we're discussing. People post items like this all the time and I'm confused why this is taken so personal. Again, it wasn't said disrespectfully and the reaction by others confirmed what most probably thought was simply a uninformed opinion.
I had the extreme pleasure of a Saturday evening, late night, very unrushed tryst with petite Edina. Thanks Jry Wild1 for the recommendation! I plan to repeat as her schedule permits, which is challenging in itself, as she is p / t.
Sunday late afternon was spent with Sady. VERY energetic, long shapely legs, great oral skills, awesome butt, and absolutely loves to have wild sex.
Seniors and respected regular members, PM me for details.
WMT
Ok I have been a member for quite some time now (I think a year. I don't post often, mainly because I have been on the fence about getting into this hobby. I finally decided to take the plunge last Thursday and contacted both Callie and Stormy. Callie didn't respond to my email, perhaps I should have called her, or it could be because I am new and don't have any refs. At any rate, I was able to schedule with Stormy. I arrived at her place at the agreed upon time. I must say that the pics in this ad: [url]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/stormys-golden-massage-Friday-funday-special[/url] / 5837838 are a bit out of date or they just are very well taken to show the best side of her body type. She was very nice, and her place was decently clean and in a discrete location. The massage was great for me (I don't have anything to compare to yet, and I was very happy when I left. All told I am happy with my first hobby exp, but would like to try some others out soon. I'm not sure if any of the Sr. Members keep in contact with Stormy, but I would appreciate any intel on who to see next.
Thanks, and be safe,
Funk
Coop,
You answered your own question. We are here to state facts that are germane to the hobby not spreading uninformed opinions. . This was stated as fact by this person but was actually just him relaying something that someone else told him. If they are related it is not pertinent to us as they are not advertising as a duo. If they were it would be important. (See the ad on Louisville backpage re: Lexi and her daughter. As in are they really related or just two providers hooking up and trying to market to a fetish and are not really related.
If an incall location is dirty, bedbug infested or smells bad that affects us as hobbyists and needs to be reported on. Reporting on two possibly related providers that are not advertising as a duo is just gossip and has nothing to do with us as hobbyist. It is just someone spreading useless gossip.
By all means please report on all useful provider information. We all need the intel. But leave the personal information and opinions to PM and put the facts on the board.
BTW, if I reported that Summer had a cat that was sick (She doesn't) would that give you the hobbyist useful information as to where to spend your hobby dollars? That piece of information is just about as useful as knowing if a provider has a mother or a daughter or a sister in the business doesn't it. Now if they were willing to have a duo with you then it indeed would be important.
Come on guys. We are better than this. We all have good intel, do we really need to stoop to irrelevant gossip just to post a report.
[QUOTE=CooperLamar; 1075588]With all due respect, I think some are blowing the alleged mother-daughter situation way out of proportion. What difference does it make? We are here to discuss providers, right? I would understand if it was rude or hurtful, but nothing disrespectful was said at all in my opinion.
In other reports, a former provider was wished Happy Mothers Day. Is that allowed? Isn't the same thing? Someone also said that a person's house was dirty. Is that allowed? That's probably less respectful than what we're discussing. People post items like this all the time and I'm confused why this is taken so personal. Again, it wasn't said disrespectfully and the reaction by others confirmed what most probably thought was simply a uninformed opinion. [/QUOTE]
I saw Stacy last week. She is much busier since separating from Summer. Her service is pretty good. She doesn't like to kiss, and isn't really all that "into" it, but overall, it was a good FS session for the money. Not what I would call GFE, but good sex and BBBJ. For the price she charges, I will see her again.
I was told that Summer is still doing the "escort" thing as evidenced by the fact that the "duo" ads are still up. Why [i]exactly[/i] she is walking the streets if she is still getting escort gigs is beyond me. I'm guessing that she is not getting [b][i]enough[/i][/b] of those sessions to feed whatever is causing her to walk the streets too. I have a few guesses as to what that need is, but I won't post them, since I don't know for sure.
I have been told that Summer was walking the streets with a girl named "Holly". Holly may or may not be Brittany, but I was told that Holly might be "standing in" sometimes for Stacy on the duos without Stacy's knowledge. This is also not good for Stacy, obviously. I'm sure that some of this crap is why Stacy is putting up her own ads. I've heard that Stacy has been much busier since her "solo" ads went up. Good for her! Hopefully, she will show up on the board sometime.
I agree with KG and Assman, Summer is pretty nice already, but if she [b][i]did[/i][/b] "tighten up that hot little body, " she probably [i]could[/i] step up the price and quality. It might get her off the streets too. Oh well!
[u]As a side note and totally unrelated[/u]: I like the new forum layout, so far. But, I can't seem to find the "edit" option for my old posts (gone? Or only for new posts now? I could edit mine before. After they were live on the board. [OK. I see the "Edit Post" button on this report, but still not on my old posts. Maybe Jackson needs to "link" my posts back to my name? Or maybe you can't edit old, pre-upgrade posts anymore. ] Also, I would like to have the cool formatting tools in the "Submit Report" and "Advanced Reply to Private Message" like are in the "Quick Reply to Private Message. " It would save me some effort putting the [i] and [b] tags by hand around stuff that I want italic and bold. Is there a setting for any of this that I've missed?
Be safe, be well.
JR[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CooperLamar; 1075588]
In other reports, a former provider was wished Happy Mothers Day. Is that allowed? [/QUOTE]Hey peeps in the coop,
Lookee here. This post brought to mind a post of mine earlier this year and I do not know if that is what is referenced or not. If it is, with apologies for space-wasting, a rebuttal is in order. The mother's day post was a bit of a space-waster, LOL, but was only intended to brighten the day of ANY mother. This could have been any reader, be it escort, masseuse, SW, monger, LE, any lady with a child. Simple as that, Happy Mother's Day to you if you are a mother. If the threads are followed, a former provider did reply to it, stating her appreciation. I don't even know the context of the reply, whether she was saying thanks as a mother, or thanks for kind words for all mothers, but that was the chronology. So, a re-read might offer a different take. By the way, to ALL mothers, Happy Columbus Day, LOL.
Lookee
The personal information debate seems to have inspired many senior members. Regardless of fact, conjecture or innuendo, the original post essentially asked why their ads were linked. Personally, I believe this to be a valid and pertinent question regardless of status of the asking party. With all the new ads from the scammers formerly of CL, it is a concern when someone sees the ads for different providers linked. I thought a simple public answer for valid concern was applicable. That provides no useful information other than can be understood from the simple fact that their ads are linked.
Sometimes hearsay is relevant, but probably best handled in a PM. I agree that any personal relationship information was irrelevant with the exception of what was already disclosed by posting linked ads. Now, can we move on to more important matters?. Like a bucket list perhaps?
Here is Lookee's general Happy Mother's Day post (1324,5-810. Innocent enough and to no one in general:
Thank you moms who get no thanks.
Lookee here. If you are reading this, and are a mother who feels unappreciated at times, or always, this is for you. I truly wish you a Happy Mother's Day! If you are giving the position, and what a job it is, the best you can give, more than that you cannot do. Happy Mother's Day, Happy Mother's Day, Happy Mother's Day!
Lookee
To which an appreciative and sweet provider replied:
How sweet of you to put something like that for all of the mother's. I for one, appreciate it. I hope a few others found it to be very warming and thoughtful as well.
XOXO,
Dawn.
[QUOTE=Lookee; 1076058]Hey peeps in the coop,
Lookee here. This post brought to mind a post of mine earlier this year and I do not know if that is what is referenced or not. If it is, with apologies for space-wasting, a rebuttal is in order. The mother's day post was a bit of a space-waster, LOL, but was only intended to brighten the day of ANY mother. This could have been any reader, be it escort, masseuse, SW, monger, LE, any lady with a child. Simple as that, Happy Mother's Day to you if you are a mother. If the threads are followed, a former provider did reply to it, stating her appreciation. I don't even know the context of the reply, whether she was saying thanks as a mother, or thanks for kind words for all mothers, but that was the chronology. So, a re-read might offer a different take. By the way, to ALL mothers, Happy Columbus Day, LOL.
Lookee[/QUOTE]
Jay, I must say that I agree with most of what you have to say in this post.
Personal information and hearsay needs to stay on the PM back channel. Questioning the validity of providers sharing advertising accounts does warrant further questions (Not conjecture) ask the question, do not state facts that you have not personally verified.
I will say that when two extremely well reviewed and known local Providers advertise together it warrants less scrutinany than two new unknown and unreviewed providers would. It also is a disservice to all involved to just assume that since they share an advertising account that they will duo for you.
Some here have questioned the need to address this situation. My opinion is that if we start letting opinions and innuendo, gossip and conjecture into open board postings then we will never be able to have the level of trust in open board reports that is so vital to what we are trying to do here. As they say on Law and Order, "That is a slippery slop we would be going down. "
With all of the risks that are already inherent to the hobby trying to sift through what is real and what is something someone is posting just to make a report makes my hobby experience that much more difficult to say the least. Stop the guessing and stop the personal information now or it will get to the point of that being the majority of postings and the real intel will get swallowed up in it. How many times have we told hobbyist to RTFF. That is so that they can get real intel and learn how to post real information.
KG.
[QUOTE=Jay Malibu; 1076083]The personal information debate seems to have inspired many senior members. Regardless of fact, conjecture or innuendo, the original post essentially asked why their ads were linked. Personally, I believe this to be a valid and pertinent question regardless of status of the asking party. With all the new ads from the scammers formerly of CL, it is a concern when someone sees the ads for different providers linked. I thought a simple public answer for valid concern was applicable. That provides no useful information other than can be understood from the simple fact that their ads are linked.
Sometimes hearsay is relevant, but probably best handled in a PM. I agree that any personal relationship information was irrelevant with the exception of what was already disclosed by posting linked ads. Now, can we move on to more important matters. Like a bucket list perhaps? [/QUOTE]
For those of you that are interested in real facts here is the backpage ad for a mother daughter act in Louisville.
http://louisville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/4-hand-cant-miss-this-lexi-and-her-daughter-vanessa/2534062
KG