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[quote=chase star;1089225]i wholeheartedly agree that getting **** girls away from pimps can only be a good thing. in fact, most mongers will tell you we don't even like it when adult providers have pimps either. but making cl and bp sound like minor central is a whole other thing. despite all these hours of investigation and multiple arrests, local leo only managed to find and rescue 4 minors. at the same time, they "also arrested 35 adult prostitutes in hillsborough and pinellas counties". if that's gravy, then its a definitely helluva lot more "gravy" than "meat". for a medium that is alleged to be a prime advertising outlet for **** girls and/or those promoting their services, that is a very low percentage that actually turned out to be ****. furthermore, presumably if the object of their investigation really was just to rescue **** girls, then they should have at least made some attempt to focus their efforts on providers most likely to fall in that category rather than apply a random scattergun approach. and, if that is the case, then the percentage of all those providers advertising on cl & bp who are actually **** would turn out to be even tinier. nationally this investigation spread across 40 cities and they only managed to rescue 69 girls and nab 99 pimps while also arresting nearly 800 other adults (presumably adult women trying to earn a living from prostitution. so the percentage of women in this business that they were able to find nationally that were **** was similarly thin. again, i think it is great that the rescue even that many young girls and should also arrest all those who victimize them (not just the pimps), but if they're finding such a small percentage of girls that fall into that category then either they're casting a grossly inefficiently wide net or they're really simply looking in the wrong place.[/quote]yes indeed and you will never, ever hear or read any of the media outlets relaying those numbers. they make it sound as if they expected to recover hundreds of minors when in fact, they rescued 69. don't get me wrong, trafficking minors is terribly wrong and those caught should be executed. its just the media throws out these stores but they never relay the results of the operations.

back in the day, ofc was front page news for weeks on end. but when the case fell on its face, your never heard or read about it.

[QUOTE=Troop; 1088885]I'm sure a good portion of you guys got the same pm I got about Ivy.

If Ivy has a pimp, has a starting price already above my ceiling and plays upsell from there, I will move on from my thoughts of spending time with her.

I would encourage the PMer to post his findings. [/QUOTE]You might note that I posted this about Ivy'ona over a month ago:

[QUOTE=Chase Star;1073366]... To me the more significant warning signs here are: a) that it is a new ad with no reviews (which could mean either that it is a police setup, a more typical provider rip-off OR NOTHING AT ALL) and b) that the pics seem TGTBT (which could mean they're fake, not her, old or inaccurate [b]OR that the final price you pay, which you notice was not revealed in the ad, is high and/or may involve significant upcharges[/b] which in turn could mean you'll have to pay a lot for whatever you get and possibly then some if you get anything at all. ...[/QUOTE]Here it is more than a month later and the ad is still running (albeit still without any posted reviews), so we can be reasonably sure that at least its not a police setup. OTOH, I'm always a lot more wary whenever I see an ad that fails to list any prices, as this one didn't. Apparently, it turned out in this case that I had good reason.

[quote=chase star;1089225]again, i think it is great that the rescue even that many young girls and should also arrest all those who victimize them (not just the pimps), but if they're finding such a small percentage of girls that fall into that category then either they're casting a grossly inefficiently wide net or they're really simply looking in the wrong place.[/quote]i hope you don't take this the wrong way, and no offense, but you are way off base. the fact they found 1 **** girl is disturbing. the fact they found 4 in this area, is more disturbing. what's worse, there are 69 **** girls that were recovered in a 3 day weekend of busts nationwide.69 minors who fall in the bracket of 14-17 year olds. if you did this type of sting once a month and multiply that by 12 months, that's close to 900 children that could potentially be out there either kidnapped, held against their own free will, by pimps who force them to perform acts on people 3 times their age.

sorry but that's just sick and disgusting.1 is enough, 69 is too many.

my question to you is, where would one go to look for **** girls if they are looking in the wrong place?

I made a visit to Isabella. This is not a girl. This is a woman. I've seen her several times and she has gotten better each trip.

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The last two times I visited her were just heaven. Menu has DFK, BBJ, CFS in every position I could dream up and that includes Greek. Great attitude. No clock watching.

[QUOTE=Wellgraced; 1088802]Has anyone met up with Tiffany? I see that she was picked up by uncle LEO in the middle of last week, and I believe another forum user mentioned that she quit posting on BP after that happened. Any information would be much appreciated.

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Also, as someone else mentioned. She says that you should place the donation in an envelope in the bathroom, but the ad doesn't state a rate. [/QUOTE]She's advertising again as of yesterday. Washington, the. See, maybe she's taking her case to The Supreme Court. Before Tampa she had advertised in Chicago, Pittsburgh and a few other places.

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[QUOTE=Longhairngotee; 1089917]She's advertising again as of yesterday. Washington, the. See, maybe she's taking her case to The Supreme Court. Before Tampa she had advertised in Chicago, Pittsburgh and a few other places.

[url]http://www.freepostsite.com/index.php?do=view&postid=90212[/url][/QUOTE]When the shooting started, she got the hell out of Dodge.

Hi fella's I know she has been reported several times, so I am not going to go into details but I saw Vanessa from discrete for the first time and WOW, all I can say is if you haven't seen her, DO!

Anyone heard any info on this one? She looks amazing.

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[QUOTE=Troop; 1089727]I made a visit to Isabella. This is not a girl. This is a woman. I've seen her several times and she has gotten better each trip.

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The last two times I visited her were just heaven. Menu has DFK, BBJ, CFS in every position I could dream up and that includes Greek. Great attitude. No clock watching. [/QUOTE]I have been reminded via pm that Isabella says yes to DATY. I waited too long to edit the orig post.

[QUOTE=Troop; 1089727]I made a visit to Isabella. This is not a girl. This is a woman. I've seen her several times and she has gotten better each trip.

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The last two times I visited her were just heaven. Menu has DFK, BBJ, CFS in every position I could dream up and that includes Greek. Great attitude. No clock watching. [/QUOTE]Agree 1000% Isabella is an ATF. The ultimate GFE.

Alana is doing a great job with dicretemeets.

[quote=ho consultant; 1089394]i hope you don't take this the wrong way, and no offense, but you are way off base. the fact they found 1 **** girl is disturbing. the fact they found 4 in this area, is more disturbing. what's worse, there are 69 **** girls that were recovered in a 3 day weekend of busts nationwide.69 minors who fall in the bracket of 14-17 year olds. if you did this type of sting once a month and multiply that by 12 months, that's close to 900 children that could potentially be out there either kidnapped, held against their own free will, by pimps who force them to perform acts on people 3 times their age.

sorry but that's just sick and disgusting.1 is enough, 69 is too many.

my question to you is, where would one go to look for **** girls if they are looking in the wrong place? [/quote]i don't take it the wrong way, but i think perhaps it is you who took what i wrote the wrong way. i never meant to suggest that the fact they found even 1 girl wasn't disturbing ot that it wasn't absolutely great they rescued 4 local girls and 69 nationwide. in fact, i'd think it would have been absolutely great even if they had just rescued only 1 girl (consider the old starfish parable).

the real question that i was raising was whether this was the most effective way to go about it. if the problem of child sex slavery were really as rampant as some make it out (and i believe it could be) and if these pimp-guys promoting on such mainstream outlets as bp and cl really was as common as they say (something i doubt, and they went after the most suspicious looking ads, then one would think they would have come up with a lot more successful hits then they did. otoh, if child sex slavery is as rampant and they say and they managed to get so few hits, then it stands to reason that most of these creepy pedophile guys must be finding these gals some other way or at least are able to get through the screening of these creepy pimps in ways that leo can't.

okay, 69 nationwide seems like a big number to you (it certainly is a big enough number if you are one of the girls, but how many leo personnel were involved in this whole operation spanning how many states and how many manhours did they spend in the operation not just over the 3 days that the arrests went down but also in setting it all up and how many taxpayer dollars went into it?

i'd also question your extrapolation that if they did this more regularly that they might rescue thousands of children. to the extent, there was any real serious risk of these pimps getting caught, i think they'd just find other ways to promote their "services" and / or be more careful in screening potential clients (e. g. by letting those clients commit the first illegal act. i'm sure that the arrest rate would go way down as a) the most careless of pimp promoters got nabbed be) the rest seeing what was going down would turn to other places to promote their business, lay low until leo inevitably turns down the heat or otherwise becomes more careful not to get caught and see) to the extent it had any real impact there'd be fewer such girls out there or at least out there advertising in this way.

so, where would one go to look for **** girls if they're looking in the wrong place? i don't really know because i'm not a pedophile who normally goes looking for those things. i'd imagine, based upon media depictions, that some of these guys operate in a shadow world, exchanging their dirty pics and such with likeminded friends over the internet, others troll teen chat rooms, still others pick up these gals in much the same way those pimps do (e. g. by hanging out in places like bus stations looking for probable runaways) and probably most of the **** hookers are not even marketed on-line but are picked up right off the street (probably perhaps with their controlling pimps lurking somewhere in the background.

so the most obvious answer to your question is that they should be looking for the customers as much as the victims it is noteworthy that, while this operation netted not even 100 pimps, it did not lead to the arrest of even a single john, which are who they should really be going after as much as anyone. if the guys who respond to these ads had some legitimate fear answering an ad for an **** provider would lead to their arrest, i guarantee you that far fewer guys would answer such ads and / or would avoid any ads that even hinted the provider might be ****. and if that happened the ads would lose their effectiveness and these pimps wouldn't be able to promote these gals in that way (unfortunately, many of them would just find some other way to do it. dry up the demand and the supply will be forced to go away or at least go somewhere else.

another answer is that rather than doing things that are mostly for show or trying to depict this as being a problem that is primarily being exacerbated by what are for most part a legitimate advertising sites or to the extent they promote illegal services 99% of even those ads are by consenting adults performing what are really just victimless crimes (and trying to earn livings precisely without having to resort to a pimp, leo should do the regular though not so media-friendly gruntwork that they do every day, such as posing as susceptible teens in chatrooms, placing decoy ads, performing more streetwalker sweeps with the emphasis on age-checks. etc. and while you're at it as long as you think this problem is something worth spending any sum of money on as long as it saves even a single child, how about setting up more special shelters and rehab programs for the homeless teen runaways who may be most at risk? not only would that help protect these children from sexual abuse by older male predators, it would protect them from all the other dangers of the street such as drug abuse, disease and malnutrition. i saw nothing in that article that indicated this high-profile one-time sweep that saved a few small handfuls of children was any more cost-effective than these other programs which social welfare agencies and law enforcement authorities perform everyday.

[QUOTE=Longhairngotee; 1089917]She's advertising again as of yesterday. Washington, the. See, maybe she's taking her case to The Supreme Court. Before Tampa she had advertised in Chicago, Pittsburgh and a few other places.

[url]http://www.freepostsite.com/index.php?do=view&postid=90212[/url][/QUOTE]I love the way that the abbreviation for "District of Columbia" gets converted to "the. See" by the software. Computer technology has finally equaled the human mind, so smart that it's stupid.

[QUOTE=Mooseman22; 1089989]Hi fella's I know she has been reported several times, so I am not going to go into details but I saw Vanessa from discrete for the first time and WOW, all I can say is if you haven't seen her, DO!

Anyone heard any info on this one? She looks amazing.

[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/all-u-need-is-me-25/4485339[/url][/QUOTE]I searched the phone number on Google as well as BP where that ad runs. Back on Oct. 16 these ads ran:

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Look past the hair and you'll notice that the 10/16 girl has a beauty mark to the right of her lips and pierced nipples, she's a different model altogether. That raises a red flag for me. Also, IMHO, the photos of both girls have that European, free internet site look. Of course that's just a vibe I get, no proof to support it. But keep one thing in mind. 200 per hour for that model? Yeah, right.

[QUOTE=Mooseman22; 1089989]Hi fella's I know she has been reported several times, so I am not going to go into details but I saw Vanessa from discrete for the first time and WOW, all I can say is if you haven't seen her, DO!

Anyone heard any info on this one? She looks amazing.

[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/all-u-need-is-me-25/4485339[/url][/QUOTE]It would not hurt anything to post your report about Vanessa. As everyone knows YMMV. So I think your should post up for those who just joined or are inept at searching.

For instance I posted a report on Isabella and got six pm's requesting more on her. I myself have posted more than once on Isabella.

[QUOTE=Longhairngotee; 1089917]She's advertising again as of yesterday. Washington, the. See, maybe she's taking her case to The Supreme Court. Before Tampa she had advertised in Chicago, Pittsburgh and a few other places.

[url]http://www.freepostsite.com/index.php?do=view&postid=90212[/url][/QUOTE]That girl moves around FAST! I wonder if she just operates a week at a time at each location and then moves on, or if she just goes until she gets busted by the local police. I saw her pic on the local police mugshot site, so I know that she at least WAS in Tampa and attempted to commit prostitution. That doesn't mean that she provides as advertised, but the mugshot was just as good looking as the pics she uses to advertise.

I'll keep my fingers crossed that she comes back to Central Florida sometime soon. I kind of doubt that now that she's documented by uncle LEO.

[QUOTE=Longhairngotee;1090116]I love the way that the abbreviation for "District of Columbia" gets converted to "the. See" by the software. Computer technology has finally equaled the human mind, so smart that it's stupid.[/QUOTE]It took me awhile to figure out Washington the see. I wondered if you did it on purpose and what it meant, LOL.