Agency Discussion

[QUOTE=Psalyer;6748611]Sometimes I get the feeling some of you are absolutely insane. Who in their right mind would hit an Korean agency at the moment?[/QUOTE]One of the girls just told me that she knows that there is a new Korean outlet trying to make inroads into Boston market. I'm not sure if she understood what I was saying but when I asked her she said she knows about it.

I'm trying to convince her to come to work for different agency. She says she's thinking about it but I'm not sure whether she's thinking about coming to work for the agency that I propose or for the new Korean agency if it is indeed what is happening or about to happen. She outright refuses to try going Indy despite me telling her that it practically guarantees her making a fortune, especially in Boston, especially now when we're all so hungry for sweet Korean pussy with all kinds of BBs on the table.

Another piece of news that some of you might've guessed already: Nicole went back to Korea. Not sure whether for good or just for few months.

[QUOTE=Psalyer;6748611]Sometimes I get the feeling some of you are absolutely insane. Who in their right mind would hit an Korean agency at the moment?[/QUOTE]I think this is the best time LOL! In the past, agencies got busted after being around for years. Hard to believe they'll get raided right after opening.

That being said, the price is clearly too high, there are still no reliable reviews and among other things they ask for a selfie to be verified.

[QUOTE=Hyperion11;6750219]I think this is the best time LOL! In the past, agencies got busted after being around for years. Hard to believe they'll get raided right after opening.

That being said, the price is clearly too high, there are still no reliable reviews and among other things they ask for a selfie to be verified.[/QUOTE]Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that the concern is that the agency would be raided, but rather that this brand-new agency is a sting operation.

Price too high? What local alternative is available to provide competition? If they are truly the only option around, they can name the price.

[QUOTE=Alejhenry;6751177]Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that the concern is that the agency would be raided, but rather that this brand-new agency is a sting operation.

[/QUOTE]I really doubt any LE agency will run this kind of multi-day sting. You can also easily avoid getting in trouble by simply not discussing anything of a sexual nature via text or in person (at least until you're both naked in bed LOL).

[QUOTE=Alejhenry;6751177]Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that the concern is that the agency would be raided, but rather that this brand-new agency is a sting operation.

Price too high? What local alternative is available to provide competition? If they are truly the only option around, they can name the price.[/QUOTE]If it were a sting, they would probably set reasonable prices.

[QUOTE=ChoirBoy;6752487]If it were a sting, they would probably set reasonable prices.[/QUOTE]Unless one goal is more PR attention by focusing on successful clients in top positions.

[QUOTE=Hyperion11;6750219]I think this is the best time LOL! In the past, agencies got busted after being around for years. Hard to believe they'll get raided right after opening.

That being said, the price is clearly too high, there are still no reliable reviews and among other things they ask for a selfie to be verified.[/QUOTE]Flawed logic, considering that BTT was being monitored pretty much since its inception. The informant is still out there, and there's still a chance of a rinse / repeat / profit type situation where they let the pot grow until they come swooping in again.

[QUOTE=KOF96;6753541]Flawed logic, considering that BTT was being monitored pretty much since its inception. The informant is still out there, and there's still a chance of a rinse / repeat / profit type situation where they let the pot grow until they come swooping in again.[/QUOTE]Or they need to sway votes for a new headquarters! Anyone that goes back to an agency needs their head examined.

[QUOTE=KOF96;6753541]Flawed logic, considering that BTT was being monitored pretty much since its inception. The informant is still out there, and there's still a chance of a rinse / repeat / profit type situation where they let the pot grow until they come swooping in again.[/QUOTE]What informant? It was probably neighbors that eventually just had enough.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;6754329]What informant? It was probably neighbors that eventually just had enough.[/QUOTE]It was the huge amounts of $$ that got them into trouble. This is what kills all operations that run a more than basically efficient operation.

Gentlemen, gentlemen. I was a frequent client of BAD back a few years, and when it was busted it became clear that LE had in their possession copious records including applications for membership, workplace info, etc. I spent a few weeks on edge, and was freaked out by a number of weird calls I received that spooked me that my details had possibly been shared beyond for LE needs. In short I was very angry at BAD for claiming to protect info while clearly doing a terrible job of doing so.

In any case, I was lucky they did not pursue clients in the BAD case. I'm sure I was monitored during the last visit or two I made to BAD apartments, which were visits in the weeks leading up to the bust. There were guys pretending to be repairmen in hallway of the apartment and I remember them all clearly watching me as I left the apartment and one guy jumped into the elevator with me on my last visit and probably photographed me. I still have nightmares about what files they have probably have in storage, complete with photos, videos, text messages, etc.

After that I pledged not to give my real info to any agency, a vow that was hard to keep while reading the many ecstatic reviews of BTT providers over the time of that agency's existence. Now BTT is done for and this time clients have been called inand the state and fed authorities as promising to keep pursuing clients.

We now know: NEVER sign up with a K agency that requires identification and personal info. These agencies not only fail at providing a secure system of communication, they clearly keep physical paper records of client info (this is clear from the charges in both BAD and BTT cases). With BTT, the monitoring began early on, and even though only 28 clients have been charged this time, the feds have names and details of probably dozens of others which they will not be likely to be expunging any time soon.

I should say, isn't it sort of weird how quickly the new agencies pop up? What no one here wants to acknowledge is that these K agencies are operated by a very sophisticated, aggressive organized crime syndicate, probably based in Seoul. The money flows back to the chiefs who likely have no worries about criminal charges, especially not being in country. They send out minions to set up the agencies and calculate on them being busted after a certain amount of time. The local operators are just low level chumps who are expendable to the operations.

We should be asking ourselves if we really want to support all of this. Your hard earned dollars are flowing to foreign crime bosses who could give a shit about your safety, or even the safety of the local operators they send out to set up their enterprises. When one operation goes down -- they just send out another. And you keep paying them your money.

[QUOTE=KashkaiBoy;6754644]What no one here wants to acknowledge is that these K agencies are operated by a very sophisticated, aggressive organized crime syndicate, probably based in Seoul. The money flows back to the chiefs who likely have no worries about criminal charges, especially not being in country. They send out minions to set up the agencies and calculate on them being busted after a certain amount of time. The local operators are just low level chumps who are expendable to the operations.

We should be asking ourselves if we really want to support all of this. Your hard earned dollars are flowing to foreign crime bosses who could give a shit about your safety, or even the safety of the local operators they send out to set up their enterprises. When one operation goes down -- they just send out another. And you keep paying them your money.[/QUOTE]You don't actually know that. I'm sure its possible, but you can't say for sure.

[QUOTE=ThizzleHats;6754752]You don't actually know that. I'm sure its possible, but you can't say for sure.[/QUOTE]If it makes you feel better to believe that these agencies pop up organically by individual entrepreneurs, with no central office coordination, and that the flow of sex workers from Korea to the US and their circulation through these brothels is all just a coincidental and organic thing, not controlled and profited from by syndicates that are already known to control the sex work market in Korea, then be my guest.

I presumed all of this even when I was a regular of BAD. I know there are bad actors in the business, and I guess I selfishly overlooked that in pursuit of my pleasure. But I always tried to get to know the providers and some of them were quite free in sharing details about their lives. From the details I heard, my sense is that they are not "trafficked" in the stereotypical way, but that many if not most are caught up in debts that they choose to pay off through working in the sex trade. Several told me that they were recruited by agencies in Korea that send them to the US with an itinerary of cities and local agencies that they work for. Some try to stay, some go back, but it seemed clear to me that for most of them, their conditions of work were set and controlled by some Korea-based interests.

In any case, my point here is that these syndicates are not acting with any particular interest in protecting the clients (to say nothing of the situation of the women that they employ). They demand real names and identification and save the information so that when busted all of it is easily available for the police to use. Again, if you choose to do business with them, fine, but the 28 who are going to court next week should give you pause. The next time I have no doubt the number of those charged will be larger.

[QUOTE=KashkaiBoy;6754644]Gentlemen, gentlemen. I was a frequent client of BAD back a few years, and when it was busted it became clear that LE had in their possession copious records including applications for membership, workplace info, etc. I spent a few weeks on edge, and was freaked out by a number of weird calls I received that spooked me that my details had possibly been shared beyond for LE needs. In short I was very angry at BAD for claiming to protect info while clearly doing a terrible job of doing so.

In any case, I was lucky they did not pursue clients in the BAD case. I'm sure I was monitored during the last visit or two I made to BAD apartments, which were visits in the weeks leading up to the bust. There were guys pretending to be repairmen in hallway of the apartment and I remember them all clearly watching me as I left the apartment and one guy jumped into the elevator with me on my last visit and probably photographed me. I still have nightmares about what files they have probably have in storage, complete with photos, videos, text messages, etc.

After that I pledged not to give my real info to any agency, a vow that was hard to keep while reading the many ecstatic reviews of BTT providers over the time of that agency's existence. Now BTT is done for and this time clients have been called inand the state and fed authorities as promising to keep pursuing clients..[/QUOTE]What are you talking about dude? Your hard earned dollars are helping women that chose to sacrifice themselves in order to help their families back home. I wish there were more people in America who thought like that.

Anyone try that geisha site? Seems interesting and I don't mind the price point if it's worth it. Also recording option? Wouldn't that make it legal and legit since you are shooting a porno for all intents and purposes 🤣.