Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=Raven1855;6371790]Lmao why are you spewing this nonsense and bravado? Standard for BBBJ is $100.

Sure there's girls who want more than that and if you're good with paying more than good for you. I'm just saying what the going rate is.

And boasting you've spent more on AA is pathetic, it's literally the cheapest dates available and guys like me are out there just for the thrill.

If you want to boast, boast about overnighters, sugar babies, and multiple hour threesome dates. Not the track.[/QUOTE]"Standard for BBBJ is $100" I'd like to see you go up to 10 girls on AA and offer to pay $100 for a BBBJ and report back to me how many take you up on that offer LOL.

Overnighters? Hah. Like I would want to spend the night with a prostitute man. No prostitute or escort could offer me anything that I would want to see them for more then 1 or 2 hours MAX. I have more important things to do with my time. I can't wait for them to be gone honestly. I've had a couple sugar babies this past year that were both stunning 21 year olds attending UW. I am not on here to brag bud. Esp to somebody who is as uneducated as you.

Looks like Vice has been, and still is, out doing stings all day. Drove by Jack in the Box about 30 minutes ago and they had somebody in cuffs.

I didn't see the undercover.

I'm visiting next week and got a few questions.

1) how dangerous is it out there? I can't imagine it being as bad as Figueroa.

2) will the girls catch a date with someone with out of state plates? At fig girls stay away from out of state plates.

3) are there rooms you can get? Or is it car dates only?

4) do the cops care? Or are they only interested in catching pimps?

[QUOTE=DanTheMan213;6373470]I'm visiting next week and got a few questions.

1) how dangerous is it out there? I can't imagine it being as bad as Figueroa.

2) will the girls catch a date with someone with out of state plates? At fig girls stay away from out of state plates.

3) are there rooms you can get? Or is it car dates only?

4) do the cops care? Or are they only interested in catching pimps?[/QUOTE]1) Depends upon where you go and what you do. To avoid any danger I would advise you to NOT go to the Emerald Motel or any other motel on AA that the girl is staying at. This is where a majority of the violence has occurred against customers. Specifically the emerald. I would also advise you to pick your own parking spot, don't let the girl choose where you park for your safety. Who knows.

2) most of these girls are from Cali and other places around the country. A lot of them are from Figueroa so yes. Car dates / motels.

3) For safety I wouldn't get a room around here, the motels are pretty sketchy and there are always pimps and other really seedy people in the parking lots checking you out.

4) You came at just the wrong time. Up until very recently there hadn't been much enforcement from police for years on customers. Now they are doing VICE stings, so use your head and don't negotiate out the window.

A lot girls are willing to be paid after the deed. I usually don't mind paying on completion unless I suspect they might be a scammer. One good way to compromise to tell them you will put the money on the dash or table etc. Another good way is drive to spot a good distance from the track. If they refuse tell them to leave. Personally I have not done this before. But a lot of guys have here have done this. I will not pay for facials up front however. If they want the extra money then I tell them that I put the money on the dash. I have to many girls scan me and tell them will not do it when I am ready after paying them for the facial.

[QUOTE=Raven1855;6368632]You been around for awhile but I really don't think this is good advice. Any decent heaux isn't going to get started before they have the donation, they would have to be extremely new, a complete idiot, or you've developed a rapport with them already to pay after service.

Even if you get the girl to agree to service first, what are you going to do if it's lame, not pay? That would be a bad idea for a multitude of reasons; she may have a pimp that goes after you or she might even cause drama. For the amount of money we're talking about, any hassle isn't worth it, just pay and don't see them again. Especially if you go cruise regularly like me, you don't want a bad reputation.

Good service gets repeat customers, idk why this concept is so hard to understand for the girls out there.[/QUOTE]

My input here.

1) I've been on Figueroa and various strolls around Los Angeles over the years, Seattle isn't nearly as intense as any stroll in LA in my opinion.

3) The girls will typically have a room. Myself, I wouldn't go to the Emerald nor the Seattle Inn as the police watch it pretty heavily. Might not be a big deal for you since you don't live here but those places make me uncomfortable. We don't have hourly rooms up here like there were when I was in Los Angeles.

4) Right now there have been stings going on. I'd stay out of very large parking lots, that seems to be where they stage them. Don't park in the lot where Lowe's, Jack in the Box and Krispy Kreme are located, but I'd also avoid the Les Schwab lot and the giant lot where Amazon Fresh and Burger King are located. I might also avoid the lot where IHOP is located on the southern part of the stroll. That's just my opinion.

[QUOTE=DanTheMan213;6373470]I'm visiting next week and got a few questions.

1) how dangerous is it out there? I can't imagine it being as bad as Figueroa.

3) are there rooms you can get? Or is it car dates only?

4) do the cops care? Or are they only interested in catching pimps?[/QUOTE]

It's almost spring, SPD seems to want to send a message before the usual spring rush of hooker activity along Aurora. I saw a sting go down in the same lot about a month ago, I'd just stay the hell out of that lot and not talk to any SW working in front of, next to nor in the lot itself.

[QUOTE=DarkKnight24;6372134]Looks like Vice has been, and still is, out doing stings all day. Drove by Jack in the Box about 30 minutes ago and they had somebody in cuffs.

I didn't see the undercover.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ProJohn1;6371851]"Standard for BBBJ is $100" I'd like to see you go up to 10 girls on AA and offer to pay $100 for a BBBJ and report back to me how many take you up on that offer LOL.

Overnighters? Hah. Like I would want to spend the night with a prostitute man. No prostitute or escort could offer me anything that I would want to see them for more then 1 or 2 hours MAX. I have more important things to do with my time. I can't wait for them to be gone honestly. I've had a couple sugar babies this past year that were both stunning 21 year olds attending UW. I am not on here to brag bud. Esp to somebody who is as uneducated as you.[/QUOTE]Curious, where did you find the girls from UW?

[QUOTE=ProJohn1;6371851]"Standard for BBBJ is $100" I'd like to see you go up to 10 girls on AA and offer to pay $100 for a BBBJ and report back to me how many take you up on that offer LOL.

Overnighters? Hah. Like I would want to spend the night with a prostitute man. No prostitute or escort could offer me anything that I would want to see them for more then 1 or 2 hours MAX. I have more important things to do with my time. I can't wait for them to be gone honestly. I've had a couple sugar babies this past year that were both stunning 21 year olds attending UW. I am not on here to brag bud. Esp to somebody who is as uneducated as you.[/QUOTE]No your comments are so funny to me but engaging further is not really helpful to this forum.

You do you pal.

[QUOTE=Raven1855;6371790]Lmao why are you spewing this nonsense and bravado? Standard for BBBJ is $100.

Sure there's girls who want more than that and if you're good with paying more than good for you. I'm just saying what the going rate is.

And boasting you've spent more on AA is pathetic, it's literally the cheapest dates available and guys like me are out there just for the thrill.

If you want to boast, boast about overnighters, sugar babies, and multiple hour threesome dates. Not the track 😝.[/QUOTE]I am new to the hobby and this is one of the most exciting threads that I've seen. I titled my post rookie, because a provider told me that I had advanced from novice.

With all of the different providers that we may encounter, it is definitely YMMV with regard to BBBJ. Honestly, there was a time or two that I don't recall what she was doing when we started with CBJ and ended up BBFS. Of course, I shelled out a few bennies (chuckles).

With all of the stings going on recently I did some research and realized that I didn't fully understand how things work out there from a legal perspective. I figured I'd share my findings and see if anyone else has any input. Following is a break-down:

In June of 2020 the Seattle City Council voted unanimously to repeal loitering laws from the criminal code in regard to prostitution and drug-dealing. The idea was that these laws disproportionately affected indigenous people and other minorties. Further, the city wanted to pursue buyers in the hope that it would shrink the market and demand. As we here all know, the population of hookers from California and other areas suddenly swelled in Seattle due to the decreased chance of arrest and enforcement. With a shift toward targeting buyers, the following is what happens when a john is stung:

1) The john's vehicle is towed and impounded with an instant fine of $1000 paid directly to the City of Seattle to get it out of impound. The tow lot cannot release the vehicle until proof of the fine has been paid. Additional fees owed to the two lot for storage are paid directly to the tow company after payment of the city fine. Apparently the $1000 fine goes directly to funding Seattle Police Vice Units.

2) The john is arrested for the charge of Sexual Exploitation. The charge is exactly the same as Patronizing a Prostitute, however in 2015 the Seattle City Attorney's office has renamed the charge so it would have more of an effect on a john's reputation as a potential preventative measure. The City of Seattle is the ONLY jurisdiction in the United States which uses this name for a simple, low-level misdemeanor. From what I've read, this has caused problems for background check investigations and for those crossing borders into other countries because most investigators don't understand the real nature of the charge based solely upon the title. In short, the charge sounds much more ominous than it really is. Again, this is the intent of the City of Seattle. Sexual Exploitation, if charged by the City Attorney's Office, is a misdemeanor with a fine of $1000 and up to 90 days in jail. Again, it's a very low-level misdemeanor with a statute of limitations of one year.

That being said, apparently SPD have been doing stings lately and yet I don't see any effect on the scene on Aurora. Is anyone else? I went through once over the weekend and there were a lot of girls staged around the normal areas in large numbers. The city's view is that SWs on the street are victims, however I don't see anyone from the city out there offering any assistance to any of them. Does anyone else? In the past I've met and known SWs who only got help from the city AFTER they were arrested. Now that SPD nor the city are arresting SWs it seems as though their helpline has been eliminated.

Anyway, my purpose of this post is to educate and help us all understand the current implications and effects of the current laws. I'm not a legal professional so I don't know everything, so if anyone has anything else to add I think it would be a worthy discussion.

[QUOTE=Hoballer;6377854]With all of the stings going on recently I did some research and realized that I didn't fully understand how things work out there from a legal perspective. I figured I'd share my findings and see if anyone else has any input. Following is a break-down:

In June of 2020 the Seattle City Council voted unanimously to repeal loitering laws from the criminal code in regard to prostitution and drug-dealing. The idea was that these laws disproportionately affected indigenous people and other minorties. Further, the city wanted to pursue buyers in the hope that it would shrink the market and demand. As we here all know, the population of hookers from California and other areas suddenly swelled in Seattle due to the decreased chance of arrest and enforcement. With a shift toward targeting buyers, the following is what happens when a john is stung:

1) The john's vehicle is towed and impounded with an instant fine of $1000 paid directly to the City of Seattle to get it out of impound. The tow lot cannot release the vehicle until proof of the fine has been paid. Additional fees owed to the two lot for storage are paid directly to the tow company after payment of the city fine. Apparently the $1000 fine goes directly to funding Seattle Police Vice Units.

2) The john is arrested for the charge of Sexual Exploitation. The charge is exactly the same as Patronizing a Prostitute, however in 2015 the Seattle City Attorney's office has renamed the charge so it would have more of an effect on a john's reputation as a potential preventative measure. The City of Seattle is the ONLY jurisdiction in the United States which uses this name for a simple, low-level misdemeanor. From what I've read, this has caused problems for background check investigations and for those crossing borders into other countries because most investigators don't understand the real nature of the charge based solely upon the title. In short, the charge sounds much more ominous than it really is. Again, this is the intent of the City of Seattle. Sexual Exploitation, if charged by the City Attorney's Office, is a misdemeanor with a fine of $1000 and up to 90 days in jail. Again, it's a very low-level misdemeanor with a statute of limitations of one year.

That being said, apparently SPD have been doing stings lately and yet I don't see any effect on the scene on Aurora. Is anyone else? I went through once over the weekend and there were a lot of girls staged around the normal areas in large numbers. The city's view is that SWs on the street are victims, however I don't see anyone from the city out there offering any assistance to any of them.[/QUOTE]Thanks, this reminds me to never partake in AA again. Not worth losing travel privileges to Canada which has a scene 100 x better than Seattle.

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The only time I have seen AA SW get help was from a group of young ladies in White hoodies or sweatshirts in pairs walking Lowes or Schwab area offering bags of something to the ladies. I've only seen them at night. I think they had a logo on the sweatshirt of a organization. They clearly were doing some kind of help service to street walkers or advice.

This was maybe last summer or the one before.

As far as I understand it, those are usually volunteer and church organizations. They'll hand-out condoms, pamphlets and other information. In the past I've met SWs who got arrested by vice and were offered a deferred sentence if they wanted to complete a recovery program. This only works for local SWs who are using heavy addictive drugs, not for the traveling girls who probably aren't using heavy substances. Further, most of these young traveling SW's can make $1000 or more/day on Aurora, there's really nothing the city can offer which will put a girl on a path where she can make so much cash in a day. Most say that they can't ever go back to a "real" job making a regular wage. That's over four times the national average for most Americans. The problem as I see it is that the city and others want to generalize all sex workers into the "they are all trafficked and addicted to drugs" category. Problem is that a lot of the so-called trafficked traveling women don't view themselves as being trafficked nor as a victim. A lot of girls who have a pimp live in a sort of family situation. I'm not condoning this at all just simply telling it like it is. A lot of those SWs out there who aren't currently with a pimp are seeking one. Having a pimp is a deeply-ingrained part of the street culture and it's been that way since before most of those girls were born. Understanding that and addressing that aspect is key. I don't think a lot of people, including the city, really understand it all. In my view they can't make adequate decisions and seriously begin to address the situation until they do seek to understand it on a deeper-level.

Probably a bigger discussion outside of this forum, but those are my thoughts.

[QUOTE=Acura8888;6378456]The only time I have seen AA SW get help was from a group of young ladies in White hoodies or sweatshirts in pairs walking Lowes or Schwab area offering bags of something to the ladies. I've only seen them at night. I think they had a logo on the sweatshirt of a organization. They clearly were doing some kind of help service to street walkers or advice.

This was maybe last summer or the one before.[/QUOTE]