Seen a couple be girls this week and they ask me not to post about the session. Sessions were good, guess they just want to stay utr, but they post on BP. I don't get it, oh well.
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Seen a couple be girls this week and they ask me not to post about the session. Sessions were good, guess they just want to stay utr, but they post on BP. I don't get it, oh well.
[QUOTE=BigGuyUAteMe;2674427]I'm so sorry this happened LC, I have met some very nice, honest, good hearted, crazy good! Ladies through the hobby and made a few friendships.
Its is a shame when things like this happens, in and out of the hobby. What is wrong with people? There is just so much bad stuff, more and more everyday.
BG,
P.S. Give and get respect, do your research, play safe, have fun, get some crazy good, and TPRFB![/QUOTE]I agree wholeheartedly. I think I have never had an emotional feeling for a provider beyond "like" and doubt I ever will. But as you say they are all human beings deserving of the same basic respect everyone else has. I am sure that if they could have plotted and designed the perfect life they wouldn't be doing this. Many people don't realize that sex worker is far and away the most dangerous profession in the USA, more so than police, firefighter, miners or taxi drivers. Many people who do realize don't care because "they're just ******" You can get on your soap box all you want but the worst part is that the guys who do stuff like this will never be persuaded by what we write here.
[QUOTE=Norsem;2674505]I agree wholeheartedly. I think I have never had an emotional feeling for a provider beyond "like" and doubt I ever will. But as you say they are all human beings deserving of the same basic respect everyone else has. I am sure that if they could have plotted and designed the perfect life they wouldn't be doing this. Many people don't realize that sex worker is far and away the most dangerous profession in the USA, more so than police, firefighter, miners or taxi drivers. Many people who do realize don't care because "they're just ******" You can get on your soap box all you want but the worst part is that the guys who do stuff like this will never be persuaded by what we write here.[/QUOTE]Some great comments from some good guys. I am impressed by the level of care that most of us have for the women who we meet. I've often thought that those of us who pay for time with ladies probably respect women more than the average guy cause we're not out lying to them to get in their pants and then ditching them to avoid the baggage. What we have with these girls is a pretty honest relationship. It is a shame that everyone doesn't treat each other with respect.
Kudos to LC for taking the time to make this post.
[QUOTE=LotharioCancer;2672936]Be Kind to Your Providers Please!!
Fellow Hobbyists: Please be kind to your providers, two of my faves were assaulted this week. One choked almost unconsciousness the other sexually assaulted by two men. I don't think either was by anyone on here. But just a reminder, that the ladies on here that we talk about and see for our pleasure are people. With feelings, with a soul, with dreams of something better eventually. Somebody's daughter, somebody's friend, maybe somebody's mother.
I know we talk about them sometimes in crude ways, I've found that most of them are good people, struggling with things at times, addictions, bad relationships, poor decisions they've made, single parenthood, unemployment, lack of professional skills etc. But they do deserve respect as a human being, and a modicum of decency and politeness. They are in fact providing you with a very personal service. They don't have to see you, or see you again for that matter, they can always decline. So for those that do see you again, at your request, you should be thankful and consider yourself fortunate.
Those providers that are able to get into your head and deliver the fantasy you were expecting should be recognized for that. Even though they are paid companions if they were able to please you and not just going through the motions, that's a good provider and one that takes her work seriously. That is in part the reason for my sometimes verbose reviews of them, but please always be conscious and aware that "no means no" even if uttered by a provider. You can in fact rape an escort, and I hope we don't have any of that type of person as part of this little social club of ours.
I see the hobby as a celebration of being a dude, being able to afford the luxury of a beautiful girls charms, and I get as much a thrill out of pleasuring them as much as I enjoy receiving pleasure. Beyond the physical aspects, I enjoy the conversation, and their company even if it's only for an hour or so. Could I get this without paying? Certainly, but an experienced girl is a treat, more so than an inexperienced one, and meeting "civilian" girls always seem to come with strings and drama I'm not willing to deal with.
Sorry to be a downer today, but this little dose of reality needs to out there, It's dangerous work sometimes, and as we read on here it can be a dangerous hobby. And just like us, they can't go to the police either, when they get beat up, or raped or when they get cheated, or shorted money, or stolen from. I'll get off my soapbox now, but please be nice to your providers, and I'm sure they'll be nice to you in return. LC.[/QUOTE]Many regular / senior members here seem to focus on keeping prices down and encouraging girls to be available 'right now'. I have always seen and encouraged ladies who recognize a fair price for reasonable service. I rarely see ladies for less than $300. I always pre-plan my visits days / weeks in advance. Many guys would call me foolish. Get this: I've NEVER been exposed to drug use, boyfriends, or pimps.
Yea, I'm sure some have found the 'diamond in the rough'. More power to you if the down side works for you. If abusing young ladies is your thing you are just a dick! Show some respect!!
[QUOTE=ChipJeep;2674946]Many regular / senior members here seem to focus on keeping prices down and encouraging girls to be available 'right now'. I have always seen and encouraged ladies who recognize a fair price for reasonable service. I rarely see ladies for less than $300. I always pre-plan my visits days / weeks in advance. Many guys would call me foolish. Get this: I've NEVER been exposed to drug use, boyfriends, or pimps.
Yea, I'm sure some have found the 'diamond in the rough'. More power to you if the down side works for you. If abusing young ladies is your thing you are just a dick! Show some respect!![/QUOTE]80 an hour tax free is NOT a good wage? Very few jobs pay that. 300 an hour, this is your decision, but nope from my end. Now, most would say I am not cheap. A drive a german car, have a few swiss watches, always tip at least 30% (for those making min or below min wage), but I will not over pay for something. Makes me feel I am not managing my or GOD's money if that is your thing very well.
Game on.
Is a good wage. But their not like factory workers and work an 8 hr day. 8 hrs = 8 clients. Most see between 1-3 a day if that. And there's prep time, and expenses for hotels, gas, makeup, lingerie, toiletries etc. So that $80 isn't really even though tax free. Not that I'm saying pay more. I think $80 is fair. But I'll tip when I can and pay more when I can for good service. Even from a girl I know will take $80.
Why? Preferential treatment in scheduling, extras with no upcharge, and it makes they're willing to see you when you can't pay as much. It evens out in the end. LC.
[QUOTE=Penrose;2675187]80 an hour tax free is NOT a good wage? Very few jobs pay that. 300 an hour, this is your decision, but nope from my end. Now, most would say I am not cheap. A drive a german car, have a few swiss watches, always tip at least 30% (for those making min or below min wage), but I will not over pay for something. Makes me feel I am not managing my or GOD's money if that is your thing very well.
Game on.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Penrose;2675187]80 an hour tax free is NOT a good wage? Very few jobs pay that. 300 an hour, this is your decision, but nope from my end. Now, most would say I am not cheap. A drive a german car, have a few swiss watches, always tip at least 30% (for those making min or below min wage), but I will not over pay for something. Makes me feel I am not managing my or GOD's money if that is your thing very well.
Game on.[/QUOTE]My limit is $200. That's what I consider par for this market. There are some really great girls that charge $250 but I rarely indulge at that price. Then there's the $300 girls, every once in a blue moon I will go that price. Yes $200 for an hours work it amazing. I don't make $300 in a full 8 hour day.
If these girls don't have a habit they are funding they could live very nicely only working a couple apts per day.
[QUOTE=Orion2011;2675322]My limit is $200. That's what I consider par for this market. There are some really great girls that charge $250 but I rarely indulge at that price. Then there's the $300 girls, every once in a blue moon I will go that price. Yes $200 for an hours work it amazing. I don't make $300 in a full 8 hour day.
If these girls don't have a habit they are funding they could live very nicely only working a couple apts per day.[/QUOTE]No kidding. If you made only $200/ day, 20 days a month, all year, that's $48 k. Now, while I have no direct knowledge of this, I'll bet one or two of them forget to keep track of that for tax purposes, which means the equivalent of $56 k a year. And I had to be born with a dick.
[QUOTE=Lrr8176;2675341]No kidding. If you made only $200/ day, 20 days a month, all year, that's $48 k. Now, while I have no direct knowledge of this, I'll bet one or two of them forget to keep track of that for tax purposes, which means the equivalent of $56 k a year. And I had to be born with a dick.[/QUOTE]There are business expenses to consider:
Hotel rooms $50-100 per day.
PED (H seems to be the drug of choice) so they can stand our fat gross asses jumping them $200-600/ day.
Dead-beat boyfriends take what's left.
[QUOTE=LancePkrbttm;2675381]There are business expenses to consider:
Hotel rooms $50-100 per day.
PED (H seems to be the drug of choice) so they can stand our fat gross asses jumping them $200-600/ day.
Dead-beat boyfriends take what's left.[/QUOTE]I stayed at some nice hotels and many of them offer a weekly and monthly rate which is much cheaper. Many of them do incalls at some home which I'm willing to wager is cheaper. H isn't a business expense its a recreational thing. They don't have to do much for a decent living wage and some how they can't even handle this.
[QUOTE=MillitaryMan69;2675506]I stayed at some nice hotels and many of them offer a weekly and monthly rate which is much cheaper. Many of them do incalls at some home which I'm willing to wager is cheaper. H isn't a business expense its a recreational thing. They don't have to do much for a decent living wage and some how they can't even handle this.[/QUOTE]Unless they rent hotel rooms specifically for business and have a home elsewhere (a lot of girls live in their hotel room) I don't think a hotel room could be considered a business expense. That would be considered housing which is not a business expense.
[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2675575]Unless they rent hotel rooms specifically for business and have a home elsewhere (a lot of girls live in their hotel room) I don't think a hotel room could be considered a business expense. That would be considered housing which is not a business expense.[/QUOTE]Even if it is their home they may still deduct the cost for the part of the room that is used for business.
[QUOTE=ChipJeep;2674946]Many regular / senior members here seem to focus on keeping prices down and encouraging girls to be available 'right now'. I have always seen and encouraged ladies who recognize a fair price for reasonable service. I rarely see ladies for less than $300. I always pre-plan my visits days / weeks in advance. Many guys would call me foolish. Get this: I've NEVER been exposed to drug use, boyfriends, or pimps.
Yea, I'm sure some have found the 'diamond in the rough'. More power to you if the down side works for you. If abusing young ladies is your thing you are just a dick! Show some respect!![/QUOTE]200 and tip of 50 is a very reasonable rate. If you want to pay more go to the sugar daddy site and let one pester the hell out of ya in between date nites.
[QUOTE=LotharioCancer;2675266]Is a good wage. But their not like factory workers and work an 8 hr day. 8 hrs = 8 clients. Most see between 1-3 a day if that. And there's prep time, and expenses for hotels, gas, makeup, lingerie, toiletries etc. So that $80 isn't really even though tax free. Not that I'm saying pay more. I think $80 is fair. But I'll tip when I can and pay more when I can for good service. Even from a girl I know will take $80.
Why? Preferential treatment in scheduling, extras with no upcharge, and it makes they're willing to see you when you can't pay as much. It evens out in the end. LC.[/QUOTE]Think about it guys. How much would you charge to eat out & fuck a woman that looked like your grandmother? LOL let's face it, it's a shit job, & if these girls weren't desperate they wouldn't do it. Don't get me wrong, I, like everyone else on here are taking advantage of their situation. Seriously though when's the last time you hired a plumber or electrician? $80 a hour + truck & or fuel charges etc. & they charge for travel time. So everybody stop whining, tip heavy (like double the $80) & enjoy it. I guarantee if you're married you pay more then $80 for pussy!!