Sugarbabies?

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5790164]SB promised she was exclusive. Is any SB? Didn't really care one way or the other. Fine to see other SD's. Just don't lie about was only ask. Prime SA account was disabled. Back up profile with catfish info and pic was active. SB popped up on SA. Coughed up the membership fee. Pinged her. Bingo. Replied. She asked for 100 less than what she was getting each week. Wanted discreet. Was open to meeting at hotel downtown. Gave her second burner number. Texted a bit. Set up private meet. Day of meetup told her got room. When she arrived at hotel to text for room number. She did. Gave her a room number. She said coming up. Waited until she text saying she knocked on the door and the guy that answered had no idea who she was or what was going on. Told her oops I transposed the last two digits of the room number. Sent her to another room near the first on same floor and blocked her on burner and main phone. Called hotel main desk from burner. Said there was some girl on my floor knocking on doors looking for a date can you check it out? Dont know what happened next to her. Never talked to her again.[/QUOTE]That's funny and probably felt pretty good. I just don't have the time or energy for that shit. If it bugged me that she lied, I'd just block her and move on. Let her wonder what happened. It cost you $100 and a few hours of your time for that feeling, when it takes less than an afternoon to just move on to the next one.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;5791097]And if you expect otherwise, then you should probably be on eHarmony, and not Seeking.

If you're handing a woman cash to be with you, she's not your girlfriend, plain and simple. Any expectations to the contrary are going to result in heartbreak and disappointment.

I recently took up with a very young, very hot SB whom I *know* is seeing another member of this board. When I asked her if she was already seeing anyone else, she looked me in the eye and said "no".

I find that 98% of the SBs I meet, even if they've been on the site for 2 years, assure me that I am not only their *only* guy at present, I am the only guy they have *ever* gone beyond the MnG stage with.

It's just a part of the game. Just like the many married SDs who withhold that information.

Get this, and get this good: SBs are not girlfriends you pay, SBs are escorts with whom you have a more informal, relaxed relationship.

And escorts, by nature, are communal women, free agents. So are SBs.[/QUOTE]Well said Todd, especially the last two lines. I have a SB that treats me like her boyfriend. She cooks for me, treats me real well, etc. And pursues me more than I pursue her. Nonetheless, I don't know if I am her only SD and I really don't care. The escorts I see are there to give me variety because I get bored with the same SB after awhile.

[QUOTE=Potus2020;5791516]Well said Todd, especially the last two lines. I have a SB that treats me like her boyfriend. She cooks for me, treats me real well, etc. And pursues me more than I pursue her. Nonetheless, I don't know if I am her only SD and I really don't care. The escorts I see are there to give me variety because I get bored with the same SB after awhile.[/QUOTE]"I get bored with the same SB after awhile. ".

Ain't it the truth. There is an old saying - "Show me a beautiful woman and I'll show you some guy who's tired of fucking her. ".

Or how about this one - "Man has five essential needs: Food, water, sleep, pussy, and strange pussy. ".

[QUOTE=TroublePlay;5791613]"I get bored with the same SB after awhile. ".

Ain't it the truth. There is an old saying - "Show me a beautiful woman and I'll show you some guy who's tired of fucking her. ".

Or how about this one - "Man has five essential needs: Food, water, sleep, pussy, and strange pussy. ".[/QUOTE]It is simple, I am addicted to "more". Be it alcohol, money, pussy, adrenilin rushes. Anything that changes how I feel at a particular momemt, I want more.

Anyone else notice that there seems to be a lot more 30+ year olds on the site recently?

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5790164]SB promised she was exclusive. Is any SB? Didn't really care one way or the other. Fine to see other SD's. Just don't lie about was only ask. Prime SA account was disabled. Back up profile with catfish info and pic was active. SB popped up on SA. Coughed up the membership fee. Pinged her. Bingo. Replied. She asked for 100 less than what she was getting each week. Wanted discreet. Was open to meeting at hotel downtown. Gave her second burner number. Texted a bit. Set up private meet. Day of meetup told her got room. When she arrived at hotel to text for room number. She did. Gave her a room number. She said coming up. Waited until she text saying she knocked on the door and the guy that answered had no idea who she was or what was going on. Told her oops I transposed the last two digits of the room number. Sent her to another room near the first on same floor and blocked her on burner and main phone. Called hotel main desk from burner. Said there was some girl on my floor knocking on doors looking for a date can you check it out? Dont know what happened next to her. Never talked to her again.[/QUOTE]IMHO, and no offense to anyone. I actually feel bad for that SB. I feel it was quite an overkill (like a jilted lover taking revenge story). My biggest concern is if the hotel mgmt called uncle LEO, which they do, that chick can get in legal trouble for prostution / trespassing etc. Which IMHO is bad karma and can come back haunting us. What if chick snitches at us or its a trap / sting?

And what did she do wrong she was playing the same game like we all do play everyday. I lie my ass off to SBs all the time, how many posters on here have actually 10 mil income that we all post on SA. Haha. This game is great when it's played at hobby level but can be trouble when it gets to infatuation. I have disagreements all the time and I gave few bad words, block and ghost and " Next please". LOL. That's it.

Guy's this is free country and every man / woman has right to chose the pussy / dicks (or as many pussies / dicks) they desire provided it's consensual and its level playing field ffor all without any discrimination. Lying, is allowed and must be understood. We are not courts / judges etc.

I play this game as quick roller-coaster ride for the thrill and arderline rush that I miss in my regular life. But we should be aware whoever buys the ticket gets to ride as well.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5790164]SB promised she was exclusive. Is any SB? Didn't really care one way or the other. Fine to see other SD's. Just don't lie about was only ask. Prime SA account was disabled. Back up profile with catfish info and pic was active. SB popped up on SA. Coughed up the membership fee. Pinged her. Bingo. Replied. She asked for 100 less than what she was getting each week. Wanted discreet. Was open to meeting at hotel downtown. Gave her second burner number. Texted a bit. Set up private meet. Day of meetup told her got room. When she arrived at hotel to text for room number. She did. Gave her a room number. She said coming up. Waited until she text saying she knocked on the door and the guy that answered had no idea who she was or what was going on. Told her oops I transposed the last two digits of the room number. Sent her to another room near the first on same floor and blocked her on burner and main phone. Called hotel main desk from burner. Said there was some girl on my floor knocking on doors looking for a date can you check it out? Dont know what happened next to her. Never talked to her again.[/QUOTE]Well if you don't care that they see others then why even ask if you already know the answer. This is some major big ego but small d*ck energy. What a waste of time. Kinda seems more like your feelings were hurt. Lmao.

[QUOTE=Decatur21;5791775]Anyone else notice that there seems to be a lot more 30+ year olds on the site recently?[/QUOTE]Yes, I've noticed it.

Part of this, I think, is the aging of the Millennial generation (aka "Generation Why Not?) I had my initial successes on Seeking in the early 2010's. With women born in the 1980's. The oldest members of that cohort are now pushing 40.

By contrast (being a Gen Xer myself), I don't think that Gen X women would have had much interest in Seeking, even if it had been available in the early 1990's, when Gen X was young. Gen X men were far more willing to jump through hoops than their Millennial cohorts ever were. (Some of you older guys will recall 'The Rules' book from circa 1995, which was basically about the hard-to-get femininity of that era.) If Gen X women had been on some 1990's version of Seeking, they would have all wanted $2 K ppms.

The Millennials may have ruined MTV; but they gave us the sugar baby. Bless them for that. That never would have happened under Gen X, IMO.

Also, I suspect that Seeking is trying to market itself in different venues to more mature women. The rebranding seems to be an effort to move beyond college girls looking for a few hundred $ for textbooks.

Although I have no interest in the overweight, worn-out middle age escorts that the guys in the escorts threads constantly rave about, I don't dismiss the 35-year-old woman who is fit and attractive.

The question is: How many attractive 35 year old women are going to be interested in doing PPMs at an affordable rate?

I've found many of the 30-something women to be much easier to engage, but harder to seal the deal with.

You are a Gen Xer? Yes, of course you like the young ones. I always thought your taste in young SBs and young providers was a matter of taste, (and it is, of course.) I am a Baby Boomer so anywhere from 10-25 years older than you.

I have a different perspective in my mid 60's.

Yes, the fit 30 something has reached their sexual peak and are brought to orgasm more easily and more often than the young uns, in my experience. If fit, they are still hot enough. And they have significant more experience and are hornier than their younger counterparts. Again, my experience, perhaps not yours.

I had an SB who was 30 who was doing ppms. Very hot and horny. Great in bed. I dumped her after the second time she ghosted me and I was out a hotel room. I thought we would likely get back together but she moved to Florida.

Don't get me wrong, I still love a hot 25 year old. Just love the 30 somethings a bit more.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;5793078]Yes, I've noticed it.

Part of this, I think, is the aging of the Millennial generation (aka "Generation Why Not?) I had my initial successes on Seeking in the early 2010's. With women born in the 1980's. The oldest members of that cohort are now pushing 40.

By contrast (being a Gen Xer myself), I don't think that Gen X women would have had much interest in Seeking, even if it had been available in the early 1990's, when Gen X was young. Gen X men were far more willing to jump through hoops than their Millennial cohorts ever were. (Some of you older guys will recall 'The Rules' book from circa 1995, which was basically about the hard-to-get femininity of that era.) If Gen X women had been on some 1990's version of Seeking, they would have all wanted $2 K ppms.

The Millennials may have ruined MTV; but they gave us the sugar baby. Bless them for that. That never would have happened under Gen X, IMO.

Also, I suspect that Seeking is trying to market itself in different venues to more mature women. The rebranding seems to be an effort to move beyond college girls looking for a few hundred $ for textbooks.

Although I have no interest in the overweight, worn-out middle age escorts that the guys in the escorts threads constantly rave about, I don't dismiss the 35-year-old woman who is fit and attractive.

The question is: How many attractive 35 year old women are going to be interested in doing PPMs at an affordable rate?

I've found many of the 30-something women to be much easier to engage, but harder to seal the deal with.[/QUOTE]

I'll officially enter my mid-50's this years, so yes, about 10 years young than you.

I meet plenty of 30-something women in real life who are attractive enough. The problem is that the average 35-year-old escort is a lot rougher than the 35-year-old trophy wife that you meet in Hyde Park, Kenwood, or Anderson Township.

I don't mess much with the very young ones (18 to 20), as I agree they're often more trouble than they're worth. For me, the range is from 21 to 32, with 22 to 26 being the sweet spot.

[QUOTE=TroublePlay;5793139]You are a Gen Xer? Yes, of course you like the young ones. I always thought your taste in young SBs and young providers was a matter of taste, (and it is, of course.) I am a Baby Boomer so anywhere from 10-25 years older than you.

I have a different perspective in my mid 60's.

Yes, the fit 30 something has reached their sexual peak and are brought to orgasm more easily and more often than the young uns, in my experience. If fit, they are still hot enough. And they have significant more experience and are hornier than their younger counterparts. Again, my experience, perhaps not yours.

I had an SB who was 30 who was doing ppms. Very hot and horny. Great in bed. I dumped her after the second time she ghosted me and I was out a hotel room. I thought we would likely get back together but she moved to Florida.

Don't get me wrong, I still love a hot 25 year old. Just love the 30 somethings a bit more.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/efbb39ac-8bbf-4926-ba68-3f5f8ebf98fb[/URL]

Wanted to do a dinner mng with a friend along so she felt safe, didn't ask for a fee for that. Said she was open to more if she felt comfortable. Then, the texts start coming about how her car got hit, rent was due, yada yada yada. You know the rest.

That's a problem with the 30-somethings, they ask for way too much money. They usually upsell with their pictures and in this area of the country, they have kids. I've found a few where it was more about being taken out and having good conversation and good sex.

I've talked with 30-somethings in the past and some use Seeking because it costs the guys $100+/ month so they know they have some money to spend. Less drama to deal with than sites like POF and OkCupid. I will be curious as more women come to Seeking to date. Will PPM not be brought up anymore since they will in many cases think of that as prostitution? (when they sign up now it says to never discuss PPM) I am trying to figure out the new angle to use in the future.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;5793078]Yes, I've noticed it.

Part of this, I think, is the aging of the Millennial generation (aka "Generation Why Not?) I had my initial successes on Seeking in the early 2010's. With women born in the 1980's. The oldest members of that cohort are now pushing 40.

By contrast (being a Gen Xer myself), I don't think that Gen X women would have had much interest in Seeking, even if it had been available in the early 1990's, when Gen X was young. Gen X men were far more willing to jump through hoops than their Millennial cohorts ever were. (Some of you older guys will recall 'The Rules' book from circa 1995, which was basically about the hard-to-get femininity of that era.) If Gen X women had been on some 1990's version of Seeking, they would have all wanted $2 K ppms.

The Millennials may have ruined MTV; but they gave us the sugar baby. Bless them for that. That never would have happened under Gen X, IMO.

Also, I suspect that Seeking is trying to market itself in different venues to more mature women. The rebranding seems to be an effort to move beyond college girls looking for a few hundred $ for textbooks.

Although I have no interest in the overweight, worn-out middle age escorts that the guys in the escorts threads constantly rave about, I don't dismiss the 35-year-old woman who is fit and attractive.[/QUOTE]

She was easier on me. Just sent me a message saying "I don't do sex for money. " Thanks for letting me know!

BAM.

[QUOTE=JackOhLantern;5793384][URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/efbb39ac-8bbf-4926-ba68-3f5f8ebf98fb[/URL]

Wanted to do a dinner mng with a friend along so she felt safe, didn't ask for a fee for that. Said she was open to more if she felt comfortable. Then, the texts start coming about how her car got hit, rent was due, yada yada yada. You know the rest.[/QUOTE]

Talks a good game until you get off site. Then she can never meet. Eventually sent me the following:

"For one don't get smart with me! Have a great night now I have most definitely changed my mind I don't do disrespect ass men and I also have been really sick so goodbye".

Poor girl is obviously feeling under the weather. Cut her some slack guys!

BAM.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/244c85ff-d761-4de1-ba8c-89fa12641b01[/URL]

Just wondering if anyone has partaken? A little skinny for me, but that's better than the alternative.

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