Straw you nailed it. Thanks. Read up here peeps...
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Straw you nailed it. Thanks. Read up here peeps...
Ok, so going to be checking out PH for the first time next trip in a couple of months. Did a search of the hotel and it looks promising but not much recently. Anybody have any recent info?
Thanks,
R
[QUOTE=Rileym]Ok, so going to be checking out PH for the first time next trip in a couple of months. Did a search of the hotel and it looks promising but not much recently. Anybody have any recent info?
Thanks,
R[/QUOTE]
It was just bought by Harrahs.
Harrahs is notorious for chasing working girls out of it's properties.
No first hand info though.
C'mon guys where are all the good reports. I'm coming out next week for my annual March Madness trip and was hoping to have some solid intel on good scores with descriptions and value. I don't really need any info on where to find them, because I know they are all over, but enjoy hearing about the diamonds in the rough in case I happen upon one I'll know not to pass. At any rate, I will be reporting my findings after my trip.
[QUOTE=Speck]It was just bought by Harrahs.
Harrahs is notorious for chasing working girls out of it's properties.
No first hand info though.[/QUOTE]I agree. I've seen them run off girls, but I generally stay at a Harrah's property and personally have never had a problem. I've picked them up on site and have brought them back without incident. I think it's important not to find a girl dressed like a "Hooker", as tempting as it might be, and to just act natural without being obvious. Just my thoughts.
Good luck
[QUOTE=Mutger]I agree. I've seen them run off girls, but I generally stay at a Harrah's property and personally have never had a problem. I've picked them up on site and have brought them back without incident. I think it's important not to find a girl dressed like a "Hooker", as tempting as it might be, and to just act natural without being obvious. Just my thoughts.
Good luck[/QUOTE]Harrah's is notorious for running off girls or even holding them for the police. I even seen them do that to guys who where with or talking to the girls. Not a place to go.
In my opinion, it is the hotel Harrahs that is really picki with the girls!
The other properties own by Harrahs are not hat bad!
I've seen a lot of ladies in "Flamingo, Bally's & Imperial"!
Even on the "PH", I heard that you can get a lot of girls on the shopping area instead of Casino!
First time in a couple of years. Have read the forum over the years but was wondering if the CG girls prices have come down with the economy. Was in the 250 range last couple of times I have been there. Will be at the nugget. It is a March madness weekend so I am thinking that may drive up demand/price.
Thanks
New to this site. How many of you request the casino girls to take a shower before you do business just wondering what there reaction is will it cost me extra? It is a major turn off that girl I am hiring is not her first time being hired that night.
[QUOTE=Dihard]New to this site. How many of you request the casino girls to take a shower before you do business just wondering what there reaction is will it cost me extra? It is a major turn off that girl I am hiring is not her first time being hired that night.[/QUOTE]
Actually, the most likely scenario is, she will suggest it first, asking you to go ahead and start.
15 seconds after you enter the shower, her and all your belongings will be in the elevator.
And yet another 'trick roll' report...
[QUOTE=Vegasmark]Actually, the most likely scenario is, she will suggest it first, asking you to go ahead and start.
15 seconds after you enter the shower, her and all your belongings will be in the elevator.
And yet another 'trick roll' report...[/QUOTE]I just what I was thinking. Last one I was with had very nice tits but I did not suck on them just thinking of all the sperm thoses things have seen.
Another tactic a ROB uses is claiming she don't have condoms while in your room. She will claim to go buy some, leaving your room with your money and never coming back.
[QUOTE=Deeez]Another tactic a ROB uses is claiming she don't have condoms while in your room. She will claim to go buy some, leaving your room with your money and never coming back.[/QUOTE]
She may say she'll stay the whole hour (or more) for as many pops as you want and then will only claim to have one condom by mistake after the first pop. Then she leaves to go get more, and never comes back.
Best to have some of your own if this ever comes up.
Oh, and tell her to turn off her phone. It's amazing how many kinds of "emergency calls" can come in just 10 or 15 minutes after you get to the room.
[QUOTE=Jrad0205]She may say she'll stay the whole hour (or more) for as many pops as you want and then will only claim to have one condom by mistake after the first pop. Then she leaves to go get more, and never comes back.[/QUOTE]
Shake it and turn it inside out.
[QUOTE=Dihard]New to this site. How many of you request the casino girls to take a shower before you do business just wondering what there reaction is will it cost me extra? It is a major turn off that girl I am hiring is not her first time being hired that night.[/QUOTE]
I show them the $$$ then set it on the table and ask them to take a shower with me. If they balk at that their ass is out the door wo the $$$. In 2002 I had some sweet young thing grab me near the elevator in Paris and tell me she was there to show me to my room. When we got in the room she started at 1000 and settled on 200. When we got in the shower and I closed the door she freaked so we settled on a nice leisurely bath in the tub. I pounded the hell out of that pussy and got to drop 2 loads.
I have been reading a lot through this and other LV threads. Great info! But I have not found any conversation regarding when to pay, especially with casino girls. When I monger outside the US, payment pretty much always is after the service. In my hometown, many but not all of the providers want the money up front. I don't mind paying up front with reviewed providers. But with a random pickup in a casino, it seems like there is more of a risk of rip-off, upsell etc.
So. What advice can I get from the regulars on this? Will the ladies accept the idea of getting their money when they are ready to leave?
[QUOTE=thesmeghead]I have been reading a lot through this and other LV threads. Great info! But I have not found any conversation regarding when to pay, especially with casino girls. When I monger outside the US, payment pretty much always is after the service. In my hometown, many but not all of the providers want the money up front. I don't mind paying up front with reviewed providers. But with a random pickup in a casino, it seems like there is more of a risk of rip-off, upsell etc.
So. What advice can I get from the regulars on this? Will the ladies accept the idea of getting their money when they are ready to leave?[/QUOTE]
CG's will more than likely want to be paid up front. That way they have the opportunity to pull some sort of scam or trick to take the cash and dash. Most well known indys though will just want the donation left in an envelope that they will collect when they are ready to leave.
[QUOTE=Originalwook]CG's will more than likely want to be paid up front. That way they have the opportunity to pull some sort of scam or trick to take the cash and dash. Most well known indys though will just want the donation left in an envelope that they will collect when they are ready to leave.[/QUOTE]Thanks Originalwook, you have confirmed my concerns. There is a variety of opinions on the best source of reviewed indys in Vegas.
Do you mind sharing yours?
[QUOTE=thesmeghead] But I have not found any conversation regarding when to pay, especially with casino girls. ..I don't mind paying up front with reviewed providers. But with a random pickup in a casino, it seems like there is more of a risk of rip-off, upsell etc.
So. What advice can I get from the regulars on this? Will the ladies accept the idea of getting their money when they are ready to leave?[/QUOTE]
No.
What does work tho is to pre-negotiate a tip. So if you say, buck fifty to come back to my room and I'll give you another fifty at the end if you have a good attitude and no upselling, you have established the fact that you are fair, considerate, and know what you're doing.
Before you get started, you MUST be reasonably specific about what you want, without being gross about it. Use the lingo you find here on the board. If you can't make yourself clear about what you want, you will get the upsell 100% of the time. You don't have to be anatomically correct. "Oh, you know, a little of this and a little of that. Say half and half." That's plenty. But note the code words there. "My I love Paris. Do you speak French?" This part of the conversation is your responsibility; the girl will not make suggestions.
The most important thing, though, is picking somebody with a decent attitude. You don't want the psycho chasing you down on the way to the elevator. I hate that! Click-click-click. "Hey baby. Hey baby." Christ. The girls I like are dressed like civilians and talk like civilians. If you can sit at the bar and have a drink with her, and actually enjoy the conversation, she's probably cool and I wouldn't hesitate to give her the lion's share up front.
[QUOTE=GatorsDen]No.
What does work tho is to pre-negotiate a tip. So if you say, buck fifty to come back to my room and I'll give you another fifty at the end if you have a good attitude and no upselling, you have established the fact that you are fair, considerate, and know what you're doing.
Before you get started, you MUST be reasonably specific about what you want, without being gross about it. Use the lingo you find here on the board. If you can't make yourself clear about what you want, you will get the upsell 100% of the time. You don't have to be anatomically correct. "Oh, you know, a little of this and a little of that. Say half and half. " That's plenty. But note the code words there. "My I love Paris. Do you speak French? " This part of the conversation is your responsibility; the girl will not make suggestions.
The most important thing, though, is picking somebody with a decent attitude. You don't want the psycho chasing you down on the way to the elevator. I hate that! Click-click-click. "Hey baby. Hey baby. " Christ. The girls I like are dressed like civilians and talk like civilians. If you can sit at the bar and have a drink with her, and actually enjoy the conversation, she's probably cool and I wouldn't hesitate to give her the lion's share up front.[/QUOTE]It's true you got to be careful and have pre-negotiations. Most of these casino girls will play that trick saying $$ will only get her to your room, after you given her the money. Vegas does has a high disproportionate number of ROB's. As the old saying goes there's a sucker born every minute.
[QUOTE=thesmeghead]I have been reading a lot through this and other LV threads. Great info! But I have not found any conversation regarding when to pay, especially with casino girls. When I monger outside the US, payment pretty much always is after the service. In my hometown, many but not all of the providers want the money up front. I don't mind paying up front with reviewed providers. But with a random pickup in a casino, it seems like there is more of a risk of rip-off, upsell etc.
So. What advice can I get from the regulars on this? Will the ladies accept the idea of getting their money when they are ready to leave?[/QUOTE]
I don't think too many will wait until they are ready to leave to get the money . But never pay them any money until you are in the room and are very clear about what is included for the money that is about to be exchanged . If you find them on the casino floor , or walking around , and they come back to your room alone , you can feel pretty sure they are not LE . At this point , I feel comfortable being specific during the conversation.
The main thing is only have out the money you are willing to spend , have the rest in the room safe or hidden , before you go out on the troll . Never leave them alone in the room ,even for you to go to the bathroom . And make sure you haven't left any valuables or reciepts with c/c info in the bathroom , because they will surely go in there .
[QUOTE=Redskinzzfans]I don't think too many will wait until they are ready to leave to get the money . But never pay them any money until you are in the room and are very clear about what is included for the money that is about to be exchanged . If you find them on the casino floor , or walking around , and they come back to your room alone , you can feel pretty sure they are not LE . At this point , I feel comfortable being specific during the conversation.
The main thing is only have out the money you are willing to spend , have the rest in the room safe or hidden , before you go out on the troll . Never leave them alone in the room ,even for you to go to the bathroom . And make sure you haven't left any valuables or reciepts with c/c info in the bathroom , because they will surely go in there .[/QUOTE]
One thing I do is touchy feely on the elevator up to the room. I try to wait for one that is empty. Then I negotiate specifics and a specific price as I know there is no chance the girl is LE.
You almost for certain will be asked to pay upfront, but in this case the girl should be in your room and ready to get naked.
Another thing...and I know this may not be a popular sentiment..but I totally avoid bcg. I feel there is a significantly greater chance of getting ripped off. I also avoid the caucasian 30ish burned out looking ones as in my estimation, those are nearly always rip offs.
I was out in Vegas to enjoy the basketball tourney as well as the ladies. It seemed that I had much more success with the ladies than betting on the games. I must admit that there didn't seem to be a whole lot out as compared to previous trips. I normally hang out from Harrah's to Bill's and there always seems to be plenty of girls walking from casino to casino. Wednesday night was very dead, but I was fortunate enough to find some fun with a civilian at a bar. No cost, no hassle, and was at her room so could leave when ready. Thursday didn't seem much better as far as talent goes so I ended up meeting up with a "friend" I had made from a previous trip. She was fun and accomodating as always. The problem was she wasn't actually out working so I had to wait for her to arrive. Friday night was a little more regular. I found a bcg walking in front of Imperial Palace. Her name was Yasmine. She was about 5'-5", 110, very perky b's, and completely shaven. We had a nice conversation and actually hung out for about a half hour before undressing. Amazing CBJ and then climbed on and rode like she was trying to get out of town on the only horse left. Flipped for some doggie and finished my deed. Rate was 1. 5. Value/performance/attitude was unmatched.
This was the only action I partaked in, but did see some other ladies. One smoking hot at MGM proped me but I was leaving the restroom and was close to closing with the civilian. I'm kicking myself for not grabbing digits at the time. She was late 20's, brunette, nice d's on display. I also saw various others working closer the MGM/Luxor bridges, but nothing that striked my fancy. However, I will be back again this spring and hopefully the warmer weather will bring out more ladies.
Be safe.
I've RTFF and thank everyone who has taken the time to post good advice and information. I'm just wanting to do a little market research on the current state of things, as it seems like negotiable rates vary as much as the stock market these days. Will be staying at the Excalibur, Luxor, MGM corner of town for 8 days and then at the Golden Nugget for 4 days and will be getting a room to sleep in and another room to hobby (the room rates are so cheap the best way I figure to keep my stuff safe is to not have any in the same room I want to poon in). If I am looking around Excalibur and surrounding area outside, will starting with a $ price point with a bottom line of $$ do the trick for most CG's in this area these days? Do folks find just a no haggle bottom line works better or does the lowbal and haggle work better for folks? Anyway there in a week and any current advice would be appreciated.
Are there casino girls around that are Eastern European? I met one 6 years ago at Planet Hollywood when it was still called The Aladdin. Her name was Chantel and I think she said she was from Czech Republic.
[QUOTE=J Jack] will starting with a $ price point with a bottom line of $$ do the trick for most CG's in this area these days? QUOTE]You won't be able to start anything for $. They won't talk to you. They will start at $$$ to $$$$$, then go down to $$. So, just plan on $$ and have some fun. Let us know how it goes and what it costs you.
I was in NYNY last week and came across a beautiful young lady who approached me. We went over to some slots and sat down she did a package check right there. However things did not progress probably due to to much drinking on my part. Anyway she was a mixture part asian she was gorgeous said her name was Phan or fan . If anyone has any info on her I would certainly like to cross paths with her again.
[QUOTE=HugoTheMan]I was in NYNY last week and came across a beautiful young lady who approached me. We went over to some slots and sat down she did a package check right there.[/QUOTE]Sorry if this is a dumb question, but why did she do a package check? I assume it is to find out if you are LE, but how does that work? Just curious.
[QUOTE=Gigabyte40]Sorry if this is a dumb question, but why did she do a package check? I assume it is to find out if you are LE, but how does that work? Just curious.[/QUOTE]She was checking to make sure he wasn't trying to sneak a knitting needle past security.
(I apologize. Too much 1 on 1 time with the TSA. Couldn't resist.)
[QUOTE=Gigabyte40][QUOTE=J Jack] will starting with a $ price point with a bottom line of $$ do the trick for most CG's in this area these days? QUOTE]You won't be able to start anything for $. They won't talk to you. They will start at $$$ to $$$$$, then go down to $$. So, just plan on $$ and have some fun. Let us know how it goes and what it costs you.[/QUOTE]Having just got back, it was a little slow but not uneventful. The CG's didn't show up until around 1:00 AM at MGM and hyper agressive, didn't partake the hardsell turns me off. Was successful at the Luxor, playing VP by the Cathouse, pro but not over the top, stuck the $200 no haggle price, she tried hard to grind me up, but in the end agreed. Clear I didn't want any upsell or BS once in the room and it went fine. Couldn't find nothing while at the Golden Nugget.
Just returned from a trip to Vegas with a buddy, I briefly perused this place before I went, but it did not matter much in the end. I did the typical stuff, went to some shows and spent some time in the casinos. I had some luck with casino girls, three completely different women, and thought I would post here. I had figured I would focus on CGs because you typically do not have similar situations in most cities. I did not try the SW scene, agencies or CL. I am 35 and prefer women close to my age or older. My report is going to be in 3 stages focusing on the 3 nights when I searched.
One common theme I perceived from all the women I talked to is that it was becoming harder for them to operate in the casinos, as security and the Vegas PD were cracking down on them. This was definitely the case with the newer, flashier places. That was not an issue for me as I ended up preferring the older casinos like the Riviera and Flamingo over places like the MGM or Paris which seemed overdone. The casino girls told me they never even enter these newer flashier places.
Experience 1- The Flamingo- I had gone there for the "X Burlesque" show and then hung out there for several hours with a friend. I actually did not try to look for a CG until much later on at night, probably after 2 am, and the pickings were slimmer by then. I did notice a few other younger chicks at the bar but they had company. I was sitting at a slot machine and noticed an older white woman; blondish hair (late 40s) dressed in all black with leopard print wedge sandals a few rows away. A minute later she got up and moved to the bar. I followed her and sat down two seats away. She was chatting away with the bartender and we soon struck up a conversation, I offered her a drink and she moved to the seat next to me.
She was a long time resident, and soon hinted at trying to make rent. I took the cue and she asked for 2$$, I countered with 1$$. She whined about it but quickly agreed if I would pay for a cab to and from her place. I agreed (the cab fare was $12 one way). The experience was good; she had an older fuller body with fewer wrinkles than I expected, nice natural rack and fleshy thighs. She let me play with her for a while, before she blew me (covered) for a long time and then we fucked in multiple positions until I unloaded. Not rushed at all.
She was probably a 5 in looks and a 7 in attitude, considering age and mileage on body.
Experience 2- Riviera/ Circus Circus- We had actually started the night off at the Riviera watching “Crazy Girls”, the all woman topless show. I thoroughly enjoyed the show. We then went down to the casino floor and hung out for a while. I saw several CGs, (White, black and Asian) but they all seemed very young to me, definitely early 20s. Not really my goal so I did not initiate conversation. I actually sat next to a couple of married Canadian MILFs that were on a girl’s night out together at one of the slots for a long time. We chatted but they were not looking to hook up, enjoyed hanging out anyway.
I then started to look around and the pickings seemed slim, this was at around 2 am. I eventually turned to my cocktail waitress, whom I had given a very good tip earlier and blushed as I asked her for information. She was not flustered at my question and told me that she would look around for me. I continued to play and a few minutes later she returned and told me that the security at the Riviera had probably cracked down and she did not see anybody on the floor that met my criteria. I had told her I was looking for someone at least 30. I asked her where she would recommend I go and she suggested Circus Circus across the strip.
So I left and crossed the street to Circus Circus, probably got there at 3 am. I got a drink, spent some time at a slot and then wandered around the fairly empty casino floor. I had again tipped the cocktail waitress well earlier so when I got a second drink I asked her for a reference she told me to try the other side of the casino. I walked over and saw a beautiful black woman in tight red pants, black top and peeptoe heels. I sat down and started playing the slot next to her, we started a conversation and eventually she asked for $300, I countered with $150 and we eventually settled on $200. She was definitely a 10 in looks, and looked a lot like the actress Sanaa Lathan (please stop reading here google her NOW).
It was kinda interesting with her as she did not want to talk during negotiations. She said that the eye in the sky had people capable of reading lips, so she took her blackberry out and typed out $3, which I then countered until we agreed on a figure. So we headed for my room and she had a truly amazing body when she undressed. Nice tits and not an ounce of fat. She gave me a long covered BJ and multiple positions later I came hard. It felt a little rushed at the beginning but a good experience overall. She was quite willing to sit and chat after we were done.
It turned out she was younger than I thought (23) and had kinda misled me about her age in a comment she had made when I first introduced myself to her. She also had a pretty fragile state of mind, and started crying while telling me about her life in Vegas and the tough competition among girls. She feared she had gone in too deep and knew she needed to get out of the business but had no idea how to start.
I would give her a 10 in looks and 5 in attitude for having rushed things at the beginning.
Experience 3- Sahara- Again, went to a show then wandered the strip for a little while. We did stop into the Venetian for a while for drinks but I was not looking then, though there seemed to be plenty of 21 year olds hanging around. Probably did not get into Sahara until 3 am. There was not much action again, in fact it was the emptiest I saw a casino in my time in Vegas. I got a drink, tipped and wandered around. I saw 4 young CGs seated at the bar, one had the same look as a young Demi Moore in Ghost (circa 1990) and smiled at me as I walked by. Nice, but a little young for me so I passed.
I eventually saw a hot older blonde with shoulder length hair and a nice tan at one of the slots. I sat down next to her and said hello. She almost immediately told me she was planning to head out soon, I asked if I could walk her out and she agreed. We strolled outside, sat on a bench and were soon in negotiation, settling on $80. She told me that she had wanted to walk outside quickly because of casino security. My hotel was in walking distance so we headed over. We got to my room and like the others, I had barely closed the door and she was standing in front me totally naked.
She had an amazingly long, athletic body and a funny, girl next door attitude. Her legs went on forever; she told me that the length on her pants was 35 inches. I was totally in awe. She claimed to be 39; I thought she was older. She looked exactly like the actress Amber Valetta (The rich girl from the movie Hitch that hooks up with Kevin James from the King of Queens). She had worked on and off as a waitress in various casinos down the years, and claimed to have once delivered room service to the late Redd Foxx, but said they did not hook up because Redd Foxx was crazy about Asian women only (That story actually makes her older since Redd Foxx died in 1992, I think).
I undressed and she blew me (covered) like her life depended on it, before getting on top of me and riding me hard. She had long, purple colored nipples that I never stopped sucking. We switched positions and sweated a lot, our bodies sliding and slapping against each other. When I finally got on top, she wrapped those long arms and legs around me and squeezed me like a python squeezing its prey to death. At that point, I could not hold it anymore and had my most satisfying experience of my trip (also turned out to be the cheapest as I tipped her an extra $20 for a total of $100).
We took a quick shower together and I walked her downstairs and into a cab. A solid 10 in looks and a 10 in attitude, I thought. Unfortunately for me that was my last night in Vegas. I wished I had run into her earlier as she was definitely worthy of a second night. All the more reason to go back.
Velasco,
Good job on your reports. That's the kind of behavior I like to see from newbies.
Seems like you had a good trip to LV. Now if you only had digits to share!
Stay safe,
OG
[QUOTE=Velasco]Experience 2- Riviera/ Circus Circus-
She was definitely a 10 in looks, and looked a lot like the actress Sanaa Lathan (please stop reading here google her NOW).
.I would give her a 10 in looks and 5 in attitude for having rushed things at the beginning.[/QUOTE]I did the google of her. Yep, very nice.
Would love to do an hour or so with her.
[QUOTE=Looking16]I did the google of her. Yep, very nice.
Would love to do an hour or so with her.[/QUOTE]I was actually pleasantly suprised at how hot the women are there. I have been up and down the east coast, but Vegas was my first single trip west of the Mississippi. New York has hot women, as does south Florida and Atlanta. Vegas is not far behind these other places in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Velasco]Experience 3- Sahara- Again, went to a show then wandered the strip for a little while. We did stop into the Venetian for a while for drinks but I was not looking then, though there seemed to be plenty of 21 year olds hanging around. Probably did not get into Sahara until 3 am. There was not much action again, in fact it was the emptiest I saw a casino in my time in Vegas. I got a drink, tipped and wandered around. I saw 4 young CGs seated at the bar, one had the same look as a young Demi Moore in Ghost (circa 1990) and smiled at me as I walked by. Nice, but a little young for me so I passed.
Thanks for the great report..coming in Thursday and looking forward to playing!
[QUOTE=Older Guy]Velasco,
Now if you only had digits to share!
Stay safe,
OG[/QUOTE]About the digits, I was not interested in the digits from #1, and she did not offer. I definitely could have gotten the digits from #2, but her young age put me off. #3 gave me her card even before I asked, but we did not discuss sharing with others, so I can not do that. It was not a CG card. She is also a small business owner and that is the card she gave me. Sorry, but I can not share that.
[QUOTE=Velasco]I was actually pleasantly suprised at how hot the women are there. I have been up and down the east coast, but Vegas was my first single trip west of the Mississippi. New York has hot women, as does south Florida and Atlanta. Vegas is not far behind these other places in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
IMHO, Atlanta trails Vegas, by a lot.
Thanks Velasco for your reports. I will be in Vegas end of June and will also be looking for some older more mature ladies to have some fun with.