Seeking Arrangements (SA)

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3430794]I disagree. That information should not be on the board either. These SBs aren't escorts, there's a thread to review escorts from BP. There are some escorts on SA, and they need to be run off the site. Those who patronize them are putting the sugar bowl at risk for those of us who only play that game and never go to escorts. When I get a girl who messages me on SA with a specific $ figure for specific acts, I report her. That is a violation of the terms of use of SA. That site will absolutely suffer the same fate as BP if there is not some self-restraint by us men.[/QUOTE]One SA girl quoted me $1500 month to "hang out" once a week. Dinner, movie etc. Then back to my place so I can check her for ticks. Isn't that the same thing? Or is that acceptable in your train of thoughts just because it's at a higher premium for a "Quasi Girlfriend Experience"?

We all pay for pussy one way or another with these dumb bitches. Some more than others. Your words are just semantics. Good luck in separating your sheep from your goats.

Rrayr.

[QUOTE=Rrayr;3430978]Any more info on this gal lately?

Big props out to JG3786 for steering me clear of her tonight.

I almost pulled the trigger. She's still posting on SA.

She quoted me 350 at first, I got her down half that and then I blocked her.

Be careful.

Rrayr.[/QUOTE]Shares a phone with this one. When questioned said they would do doubles. Say anything to try get you to show with cash Savannah.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b12cb846-4ede-4483-9250-927a12355bf9[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rrayr;3430987]One SA girl quoted me $1500 month to "hang out" once a week. Dinner, movie etc. Then back to my place so I can check her for ticks. Isn't that the same thing? Or is that acceptable in your train of thoughts just because it's at a higher premium for a "Quasi Girlfriend Experience"?

We all pay for pussy one way or another with these dumb bitches. Some more than others. Your words are just semantics. Good luck in separating your sheep from your goats.

Rrayr.[/QUOTE]Freaking outstanding Ray.

Duck

[QUOTE=Rrayr;3430987]One SA girl quoted me $1500 month to "hang out" once a week. Dinner, movie etc. Then back to my place so I can check her for ticks. Isn't that the same thing? Or is that acceptable in your train of thoughts just because it's at a higher premium for a "Quasi Girlfriend Experience"?

We all pay for pussy one way or another with these dumb bitches. Some more than others. Your words are just semantics. Good luck in separating your sheep from your goats.

Rrayr.[/QUOTE].

Walks like a duck quacks like a duck. ..

[QUOTE=StonesRoller69;3430850]I think it is really nitpicking to say SBs aren't escorts and I'm not buying it. I would love to see a broadly accepted definition of an escort and how a SB doesn't fit that definition. I would also bet that the SA terms say something along the lines of "this is not a site for people to exchange money for sexual services" so unless you are planning to have sex with them for free or just pay them for their companionship sans sex, I bet you are technically violating their terms (and certainly the laws of TN). Not trying to pick on you personally, just pointing out that I think people can delude themselves with grand thoughts of how their behavior is somehow superior because it beats around the Bush (no pun intended) rather than just being a straightforward transaction for sex. It really isn't a big deal to me one way or the other and I try to stay open-minded so I welcome any further discussion.[/QUOTE]I think F Scott puts it best. Everyone gets the sugar bowl they want. If you want it to be about just escorting and sex, sure, you can do that. I've never been w / someone I met on SA who would meet anyone's definition of an escort. I had real relationships with them. I saw them at least a couple of times before heading to the FC w / them. We had exclusive relationship (yeah, I know there are scumbags who will say I am a fool for thinking that, but I am not an idiot and I had very good reasons to believe it). My current SB and I sleep together after sex. Tell me an escort who does that.

Try to read some of the other threads, in particular the Richmond VA sugar thread, for a lot of solid opinion about this, and specifically how real escorts, refugees from BP, will ruin SA.

I've been talking with this one for the past 3 days. Any one else been talking with her and if so do you get the same funny feeling I'm getting?? Something just seems off to me and my spidey since are going off big time.

LION.

[QUOTE=Rrayr;3430704]Mshep1 quoted me a little better: $500 plus playful texts and a couple of nudie pics.

Well in that case it's a deal!! Ha!

Rrayr.[/QUOTE]Same. I just told her I wish her good luck. Maybe if enough people laugh at that, her GPS might get cured. Would be nice, she's pretty hot.

[QUOTE=LionHaart;3431937]I've been talking with this one for the past 3 days. Any one else been talking with her and if so do you get the same funny feeling I'm getting?? Something just seems off to me and my spidey since are going off big time.

LION.[/QUOTE]Looks like same girl Phoenix different profile there a thread says she is a dancer at MTM.

[QUOTE=StonesRoller69;3430850]I think it is really nitpicking to say SBs aren't escorts and I'm not buying it. I would love to see a broadly accepted definition of an escort and how a SB doesn't fit that definition. I would also bet that the SA terms say something along the lines of "this is not a site for people to exchange money for sexual services" so unless you are planning to have sex with them for free or just pay them for their companionship sans sex, I bet you are technically violating their terms (and certainly the laws of TN). Not trying to pick on you personally, just pointing out that I think people can delude themselves with grand thoughts of how their behavior is somehow superior because it beats around the Bush (no pun intended) rather than just being a straightforward transaction for sex. It really isn't a big deal to me one way or the other and I try to stay open-minded so I welcome any further discussion.[/QUOTE]I'll give definitions a try. But first: I agree that SBs and escorts are very similar. Also, there's nothing wrong with escorts, and there's nothing wrong with SBs. They aren't the same though. The main difference is in the underlying business model:

1) SB (a real one, not an escort who's using SA to advertise) == ideally wants to see just one client (or very few), and have him provide all of her "escorting" income. In accordance with this business model, it's to her advantage to get as much out of that one client as possible. If she knows what she's doing, this will mean a very good experience for the client (but also a pricey one, since he'll be the only one paying).

2) Escort == sees multiple clients, at rates that are often, but not always, more reasonable than an SB. This business model means maximizing the number of clients. This can lead to scheduling issues and assorted other bullshit, but the rates are typically lower.

So in practical terms, it means an escort is best for a quick, uncomplicated, and reasonably inexpensive good time. An SB is best if you want to have a more GFE experience (keeping in mind that you'll probably end up getting some of the crap that typically comes with letters "GF", but with the advantage of it still being more of a business relationship).

[QUOTE=Orbits;3431979]I'll give definitions a try. But first: I agree that SBs and escorts are very similar. Also, there's nothing wrong with escorts, and there's nothing wrong with SBs. They aren't the same though. The main difference is in the underlying business model:

1) SB (a real one, not an escort who's using SA to advertise) == ideally wants to see just one client (or very few), and have him provide all of her "escorting" income. In accordance with this business model, it's to her advantage to get as much out of that one client as possible. If she knows what she's doing, this will mean a very good experience for the client (but also a pricey one, since he'll be the only one paying).

2) Escort == sees multiple clients, at rates that are often, but not always, more reasonable than an SB. This business model means maximizing the number of clients. This can lead to scheduling issues and assorted other bullshit, but the rates are typically lower.

So in practical terms, it means an escort is best for a quick, uncomplicated, and reasonably inexpensive good time. An SB is best if you want to have a more GFE experience (keeping in mind that you'll probably end up getting some of the crap that typically comes with letters "GF", but with the advantage of it still being more of a business relationship).[/QUOTE]The girls I look for as SBs are essentially paid girlfriends / affairs. If someone is having a conversation about the 'menu' of a SB, she's not that, she's an escort. When I am with a SB, it is the definition of a GFE. She'll be doing anything and everything that we agree on, and there are not going to be anything that are particularly off limits. Personally, I would never touch a woman other than my SO without protection, but there are many SD / SB pairs who go to the trouble to get tested together, have unprotected sex, and get retested together. Again, nothing at all like an escort.

You haven't said anything about another key difference. Quality. Both in terms of appearance and quality of the sex, I'd say you can't hold a candle to half of the women I've been with from SA with any escort you'd find in even the hottest market (Vegas, NY, LA). And, because after some time, many of these SBs soften about the sugar, and may not even want it b / c of the connotation of hooker, it doesn't have to be more expensive. You are really missing out if you treat SBs like hookers, b / c that's all you're going to get.

[QUOTE=Orbits;3431979]I'll give definitions a try. But first: I agree that SBs and escorts are very similar. Also, there's nothing wrong with escorts, and there's nothing wrong with SBs. They aren't the same though. The main difference is in the underlying business model:

1) SB (a real one, not an escort who's using SA to advertise) == ideally wants to see just one client (or very few), and have him provide all of her "escorting" income. In accordance with this business model, it's to her advantage to get as much out of that one client as possible. If she knows what she's doing, this will mean a very good experience for the client (but also a pricey one, since he'll be the only one paying).

2) Escort == sees multiple clients, at rates that are often, but not always, more reasonable than an SB. This business model means maximizing the number of clients. This can lead to scheduling issues and assorted other bullshit, but the rates are typically lower.

So in practical terms, it means an escort is best for a quick, uncomplicated, and reasonably inexpensive good time. An SB is best if you want to have a more GFE experience (keeping in mind that you'll probably end up getting some of the crap that typically comes with letters "GF", but with the advantage of it still being more of a business relationship).[/QUOTE]There are lots of women on the SA site that are neither sugarbabies nor escorts. They are just hoping to cash in on a horny monger with some extra cash. Many of them are middle aged, overweight, multiple kids, and live in or near poverty. I've seen many of them who look as if they have 4 teeth and 3 of them are in their pocket. Just for shits and giggles, ask one of those gals what their underlying business model is and try and picture the look on their faces when / if the wheels start turning. Hahaha I don't care who or what they are, though, I still think if a monger reviews them on the board, the pertinent info should be provided and the provider or baby or ***** or hooker or whatever you want to call the person being reviewed, SHOULD NOT be consulted about the review. It's not a just a platform for the monger to report on his sexual exploits.

Fit.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3431996]The girls I look for as SBs are essentially paid girlfriends / affairs. If someone is having a conversation about the 'menu' of a SB, she's not that, she's an escort. When I am with a SB, it is the definition of a GFE. She'll be doing anything and everything that we agree on, and there are not going to be anything that are particularly off limits. Personally, I would never touch a woman other than my SO without protection, but there are many SD / SB pairs who go to the trouble to get tested together, have unprotected sex, and get retested together. Again, nothing at all like an escort.

You haven't said anything about another key difference. Quality. Both in terms of appearance and quality of the sex, I'd say you can't hold a candle to half of the women I've been with from SA with any escort you'd find in even the hottest market (Vegas, NY, LA). And, because after some time, many of these SBs soften about the sugar, and may not even want it b / c of the connotation of hooker, it doesn't have to be more expensive. You are really missing out if you treat SBs like hookers, b / c that's all you're going to get.[/QUOTE]That is a valid point about it not always being more expensive, I will concede that. My SB at the moment required 0 in cash and maybe around 400-600 otherwise (dinner / drinks / occasional gifts and such), and that's since last December. Most of the past ones required more of an investment though, that's why I was thinking more expensive.

The quality point is somewhat debatable. I've had some pretty awesome times with escorts, and some less than awesome ones with SBs. Also the definition of what is "quality" kind of depends on what you're looking for. Then again, the current SB is pretty much the best I've ever had, so I might have to concede this point too.

[QUOTE=Volkswagen;3419583]Any information on this one?[/QUOTE]Pulled trigger on this one last week. Seemed like a good person but her location is a notel in west. I dreamed at lunch and she was drinking beer and smoking inside which is cool with me because I am smoker too. She seemed highly concerned as she will want to see you In parking before she give you room location which is fine with me but odd. I had spidey sense when she asked me what I want to do. In my dreams her tits were natural and big. No BJ. Only LFK, CG and Missionary to complete and out I was. She even offered me a beer. It was OK. Will not repeat. Asking for $. 5 but settled for $.

[QUOTE=KnoxTNman;3430671]Shawty24.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/c0424067-a7c2-4d3d-9d2c-62e94a60ea62[/URL]

Mshep1 - She's smoking hot but quoted me $500/ meet. I had to pass.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/a0b98cd6-56b1-48e0-ad8a-dad162be2115[/URL][/QUOTE]Messaged back and forth a few times. Told me she had never met anyone from the SA site but she had a video for sale.

[QUOTE=Rrayr;3428367]I've been texting back and forth with Boolittle.

She seems fairly new to the game. She won't go lower than 140.

She's entertaining the idea of DATY.

We will see.

Keep it hard.

Rrayr.[/QUOTE]Met her a couple weeks ago. She is a talker. Was told that DATY was not an option and she didn't speak greek either. Was not an issue for me. BBBJ was so so but I agree with others. TIGHT! No rushing at all and damage was $. 5.

SB's are hookers (and guys who are into financial domination but don't want to admit that) for guys who are willing to pay more money for less sex because they want the illusion of exclusivity. If they wouldn't fuck you without getting paid they are hookers no matter what name you give it and you are a john regardless of what you call yourself.

I think it's also for guys who are into financial domination but don't like admitting it.

A2.

[QUOTE=LionHaart;3431937]I've been talking with this one for the past 3 days. Any one else been talking with her and if so do you get the same funny feeling I'm getting?? Something just seems off to me and my spidey since are going off big time.

LION.[/QUOTE]Dreamed with her last night. She is the dancer a couple of you recognize. Even more beautiful in person, drug and drama free. Damages were $$. 50 and worth every penny to me. She said she only wants a couple steady guys and does need help due to loosing her job. Insists on lights being out and she is a squirter and very tight. Small but very firm. Wasn't worried about the time so we had a glass of wine and talked and got to know each other and she ended up just spending the night. Very classy beautiful lady guys but will not put up with BS or disrespect. Her words!

LION.

[QUOTE=FitDaddy3;3432010]There are lots of women on the SA site that are neither sugarbabies nor escorts. They are just hoping to cash in on a horny monger with some extra cash. Many of them are middle aged, overweight, multiple kids, and live in or near poverty. I've seen many of them who look as if they have 4 teeth and 3 of them are in their pocket. Just for shits and giggles, ask one of those gals what their underlying business model is and try and picture the look on their faces when / if the wheels start turning. Hahaha I don't care who or what they are, though, I still think if a monger reviews them on the board, the pertinent info should be provided and the provider or baby or ***** or hooker or whatever you want to call the person being reviewed, SHOULD NOT be consulted about the review. It's not a just a platform for the monger to report on his sexual exploits.

Fit.[/QUOTE]Preach it Brother Fit. Do not share. Do not rat. You may need info from here someday and no monger will risk it.

[QUOTE=Skboy;3401924]Saw this small BBW awhile back. Very pleasant to talk to. Make up hair and nails done, smelled great.

A Total submissive PSE young girl that was Into role play pics / video.

Enjoyed giving a wet sloppy BBBJ / CIM. All doors were open.[/QUOTE]Would love get a link to thia one. Thanks.

[QUOTE=FitDaddy3;3432010]There are lots of women on the SA site that are neither sugarbabies nor escorts. They are just hoping to cash in on a horny monger with some extra cash. Many of them are middle aged, overweight, multiple kids, and live in or near poverty. I've seen many of them who look as if they have 4 teeth and 3 of them are in their pocket. Just for shits and giggles, ask one of those gals what their underlying business model is and try and picture the look on their faces when / if the wheels start turning. Hahaha I don't care who or what they are, though, I still think if a monger reviews them on the board, the pertinent info should be provided and the provider or baby or ***** or hooker or whatever you want to call the person being reviewed, SHOULD NOT be consulted about the review. It's not a just a platform for the monger to report on his sexual exploits.

Fit.[/QUOTE]A girl I just met and dreamed with was told all about this site by a fellow monger. She originaly told me by a friend. Who contacted her on SA. It's the first time I have personally dealt with this situation and for the life of me cannot understand why some dumbass would want to take the risk of jeopardizing such a great source of information by making it public!! Do they think it will get them a break on the price of admission or what?? She begged me to BRAG about her to my friends because she could really use the help and of course I never admitted to her about knowing any perticulor site but said I might have a couple friends who would be interested. And then she sends me a text this morning asking me not to because a couple guys were making her feel unsafe and scared! I just hope its not any of our fellow mongers from this site but feel it might be! And if so, what the hell guys!!

[QUOTE=LionHaart;3432850]A girl I just met and dreamed with was told all about this site by a fellow monger. She originaly told me by a friend. Who contacted her on SA. It's the first time I have personally dealt with this situation and for the life of me cannot understand why some dumbass would want to take the risk of jeopardizing such a great source of information by making it public!! Do they think it will get them a break on the price of admission or what?? She begged me to BRAG about her to my friends because she could really use the help and of course I never admitted to her about knowing any perticulor site but said I might have a couple friends who would be interested. And then she sends me a text this morning asking me not to because a couple guys were making her feel unsafe and scared! I just hope its not any of our fellow mongers from this site but feel it might be! And if so, what the hell guys!![/QUOTE]I've about decided next time some chick contacts me tells she knows about this site I'll plaster every pic and bit of info I have on a post and let her know her damn white knight is the reason it's up there.

[QUOTE=HitAndQuit63;3432883]I've about decided next time some chick contacts me tells she knows about this site I'll plaster every pic and bit of info I have on a post and let her know her damn white knight is the reason it's up there.[/QUOTE]It's what needs to be done.

Lots of fun.

Terrific attitude and tasty why. As has been posted before her BBBJCIM made my eyes cross. Going to have to see her again. Total damage $. 5.

Just wanted to pass along that Knoxoxo doesn't deliver on her end of the arrangement. Endless excuses on why she can't.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/0358e864-0b1e-15f5-0213-a616803cbc09[/URL]

Had a great time with Sarah. Super cute and great personality. Started with BBBJ. Went to Mish, then K9, and ended with BBBJCIM. Cute smile and tight kitty. Eager to please. Damage was $ . 5. I recommend her.

Starr on BP.

[URL]http://knoxville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/starr-babii/23830078[/URL]

,.,., is ,.,.,

Starrlanna15 on SA.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/99e4817b-c28f-4e4f-af3a-92a9e58caba0[/URL]

Happy hunting,

Milfman.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3432636]SB's are hookers (and guys who are into financial domination but don't want to admit that) for guys who are willing to pay more money for less sex because they want the illusion of exclusivity. If they wouldn't fuck you without getting paid they are hookers no matter what name you give it and you are a john regardless of what you call yourself.

I think it's also for guys who are into financial domination but don't like admitting it.

A2.[/QUOTE]Do you actually read what anyone else has posted on this thread or especially on the Richmond VA SB thread, the de facto national thread. That's certainly not the only thing it is. F Scott says it best. Everyone gets the sugar bowl he wants / sees. It can be what you describe. I know many people who don't play that way and have no interest in it.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3433952]Do you actually read what anyone else has posted on this thread or especially on the Richmond VA SB thread, the de facto national thread. That's certainly not the only thing it is. F Scott says it best. Everyone gets the sugar bowl he wants / sees. It can be what you describe. I know many people who don't play that way and have no interest in it.[/QUOTE]I may have misinterpreted F Scott's statement, but I thought that he said that "we create our own sugar bowl" not necessarily that "everyone gets the sugar bowl he wants / sees" (since what is mutually beneficial to one SB may not work for another). I read that as it is customary to hold on to the delusions that the sugar bowl that we create is somehow different from the old days of discovering her from a name and number plastered on a restroom stall ("For a good time, call so and so" thus she's writing her own name on the wall with her SA profile). It's not my circus, not my monkeys, so I'm not inclined to opine the nuances that helps one deal with it, but anyone engaging in the sugar bowl is engaging in a part of the sex industry (the potential SBs ARE sex workers). Even if those dudes don't view themselves as playing the way A2 describes, it doesn't mean that they aren't playing that way (as you mentioned) to some degree. Whether they are a hooker or not seems more rooted in the potential SBs mind, but they're sex workers regardless of how you slice it and the various sugar bowls really aren't that different.

Happy hunting. ,. ,

Milfman.

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;3434021]I may have misinterpreted F Scott's statement, but I thought that he said that "we create our own sugar bowl" not necessarily that "everyone gets the sugar bowl he wants / sees" (since what is mutually beneficial to one SB may not work for another). I read that as it is customary to hold on to the delusions that the sugar bowl that we create is somehow different from the old days of discovering her from a name and number plastered on a restroom stall ("For a good time, call so and so" thus she's writing her own name on the wall with her SA profile). It's not my circus, not my monkeys, so I'm not inclined to opine the nuances that helps one deal with it, but anyone engaging in the sugar bowl is engaging in a part of the sex industry (the potential SBs ARE sex workers). Even if those dudes don't view themselves as playing the way A2 describes, it doesn't mean that they aren't playing that way (as you mentioned) to some degree. Whether they are a hooker or not seems more rooted in the potential SBs mind, but they're sex workers regardless of how you slice it and the various sugar bowls really aren't that different.

Happy hunting. ,. ,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]Well said once again MM.

[QUOTE=NerdJohn;3433673][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/0358e864-0b1e-15f5-0213-a616803cbc09[/URL]

Had a great time with Sarah. Super cute and great personality. Started with BBBJ. Went to Mish, then K9, and ended with BBBJCIM. Cute smile and tight kitty. Eager to please. Damage was $ . 5. I recommend her.[/QUOTE]One of the better providers on Sa.

Cute face nice butt and will role play if your so inclined.

[QUOTE=Lemonader;3433188]Lots of fun.

Terrific attitude and tasty why. As has been posted before her BBBJCIM made my eyes cross. Going to have to see her again. Total damage $. 5.[/QUOTE]Another good provider on SA.

Wish she would open that back door looks very tempting!

I'm trying to respond to some of you, but your inboxes are full.

[QUOTE=Skboy;3434061]One of the better providers on Sa.

Cute face nice butt and will role play if your so inclined.[/QUOTE]She's lost quite a bit of weight still sweet and cute but kinda looking beat up.

Any information on this one in sevierville?

Any info on her?

[QUOTE=Volkswagen;3434292]Any information on this one in sevierville?[/QUOTE]Post link, can't find it!

[QUOTE=Volkswagen;3434292]Any information on this one in sevierville?[/QUOTE]Her name is Vanessa and I texted with her for a bit. First, she wanted $50 for a meet and greet so that she knows I am not wasting her time. Then, she asked that I send more pics for her 'safety'. I told her that I don't feel comfortable sending more pics than what I already had on my profile. Moreover, we were to meet at a restaurant, so I didn't understand how it is safer for her if I send text her more pics. I didn't ask her to send me any more pics than what she already had on profile, which made this even more bizarre.

It didn't go any further after that.

[QUOTE=FreeThinker2;3434417]Post link, can't find it![/QUOTE]Neither could I. Think she could have us both blocked LOL.

[QUOTE=Jg3786;3434450]Neither could I. Think she could have us both blocked LOL.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1223250-16e9-4b5f-967a-71d9ff285591[/URL]

[QUOTE=Lemonader;3434352]Any info on her?[/QUOTE]There's a post about her from Milfman I believe.