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[QUOTE=Monger8768;4484619]Hello fellow friends,
I am a young mongerer and have been TOFTT at quite a few places. I happen to find a place that all of us would be appreciative for. PM if you want any information or if you know of more. Let's try to keep the good ones quiet below radar! Also would like to know of any other places and personal body rub escorts. Be safe gentlemen.[/QUOTE]
They told me they were moving again.
[QUOTE=DeepInGreek;4499661]JF closed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MinnyMassage;4499968]They told me they were moving again.[/QUOTE]I think they're moving. Anyhow, anyone been to Tigercave in Eden Prairie? They are not open that late which I don't like but thinking of trying them out to see if they have any younger hot ladies for a change compared to most other places around town! Not getting hopes up but who knows I think it's worth a try.
Went to two separate places in the past month and had mixed experiences. The first is on the north end close by 6x4 with a decent looking gal. Started regular session then to he. Heavier not bad looking maybe in 30's. The second was on the south end. Got a older 20's gal, maybe early 30's, and great backrub. The first time it was mechanical nothing special and she was sure to mind her space. The second time was way better massage with close contact but ended with ss. Although I think they were willing.
Tried Jins. Older, chubby lady, strict drape enforcer. Not a great message either. Left not happy.
Previously tried Oasis. Cece, younger, which I know is a big deal for some people. Also strict on the towel and not even a good massage.
I'm about ready to give up on Burnsvill. I mean there are 3 AMPs on the corner of Cliff and 13 alone. Such terrible service, how can they even stay in business?
And with JF closed and my reliable provider gone at HK, I'm really bummed.
Anyone know where they are moving to and if they are open again? PM if you'd rather. I've taken a couple months off and think I'm due for some therapy.
The place in Burnsville on Travelers Trail seems to be a one lady shop now and it's been really hit or miss if she's even open any given day. I think it was closed for a couple weeks a while ago. Used to have 2-3 ladies working at a time and the pre-flip massage was great but not as good lately so I wonder how long they'll be open?
Anyhow, I liked JF and wouldn't mind tracking those ladies down.
Adventure name: Comfort Massage.
Phone: XXX 710 4773.
Web: [URL]https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-asian-health-massage-plymouth-mn-29990[/URL]#rubmaps.
Donation: 70 hr.
Pros: good location (very important because the main door is shared by several businesses and you can go in and out without anyone knowing what business you are patronizing); clean; semi decent English.
Cons: less than average; no extra; and she was surprised that there was no tip either; in fact she was pissed and requested a tip, which of course was not forthcoming; not sure why she expected a tip when the massage was less than average and she was firm on no extra.
Recom: do not repeat.
[QUOTE=JohnTheLover;4520734]Adventure name: Comfort Massage.
Phone: XXX 710 4773.
Web: [URL]https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-asian-health-massage-plymouth-mn-29990[/URL]#rubmaps.
Donation: 70 hr.
Pros: good location (very important because the main door is shared by several businesses and you can go in and out without anyone knowing what business you are patronizing); clean; semi decent English.
Cons: less than average; no extra; and she was surprised that there was no tip either; in fact she was pissed and requested a tip, which of course was not forthcoming; not sure why she expected a tip when the massage was less than average and she was firm on no extra.
Recom: do not repeat.[/QUOTE]That brings up the tipping question again. I usually would tip at least $20 on a $60 massage if the massage was decent, maybe $40 on a bad effort HE, and $60 for a really good effort HE. My theory was maybe if I went back another time I'd get better service. I think that's maybe silly. Not likely you get the same provider, and not likely she remembers.
I've seen on the forums for other cities (for travel recon) people getting pissed off at tipping for no HE, saying that encourages the bad behavior.
So recently when I've got a crap massage and no extras, I've done no tip.
Is that reasonable? Have people had luck going back to places with strict drape rules or just no HE at all and ever gotten better service?
[QUOTE=Lzoom3;4520780]That brings up the tipping question again. I usually would tip at least $20 on a $60 massage if the massage was decent, maybe $40 on a bad effort HE, and $60 for a really good effort HE. My theory was maybe if I went back another time I'd get better service. I think that's maybe silly. Not likely you get the same provider, and not likely she remembers.
I've seen on the forums for other cities (for travel recon) people getting pissed off at tipping for no HE, saying that encourages the bad behavior.
So recently when I've got a crap massage and no extras, I've done no tip.
Is that reasonable? Have people had luck going back to places with strict drape rules or just no HE at all and ever gotten better service?[/QUOTE]So I'm typically tipping no matter what. Some of these gals are getting almost none of the hourly rate. I figure just touching my fat ass is worth $10. If it's bad I write a shit review and move on.
The challenge I run into is when you finally find a gal who's willing to go above and beyond. She won't give you prices for specific stuff because she's smart and cagey. So she says "how much? Well what do you expect at each tip level without being explicit?
$40-50 he.
I've gotten topless he for $80, which I thought was maybe a little steep.
Usually I'm shopping for just he or he with a little roaming. But wouldn't say no to a little BJ action.
What's the general tip amount difference between FS and a BJ?
It's so damn rare around here to find much more than diy or a rushed HJ so haven't has a lot of practice.
[QUOTE=BusterRon;4522238]So I'm typically tipping no matter what. Some of these gals are getting almost none of the hourly rate. I figure just touching my fat ass is worth $10. If it's bad I write a shit review and move on.
The challenge I run into is when you finally find a gal who's willing to go above and beyond. She won't give you prices for specific stuff because she's smart and cagey. So she says "how much? Well what do you expect at each tip level without being explicit?
$40-50 he.
I've gotten topless he for $80, which I thought was maybe a little steep.
Usually I'm shopping for just he or he with a little roaming. But wouldn't say no to a little BJ action.
What's the general tip amount difference between FS and a BJ?
It's so damn rare around here to find much more than diy or a rushed HJ so haven't has a lot of practice.[/QUOTE]First, anyone had any luck at Phoenix in Burns? Can't seem to land HE no matter what. It's getting downright laughable in MN! It's becoming a fucking joke! But here is the thing: It's quite simple, actually. The Chinese I've come to learn (not all of them) are mostly into ripping Americans off as much as possible! This extends well into sexual massage businesses! Minnesota is one of the worst places to be frequenting AMPs because we're not getting our $$$ worth not even close.
This is a prime reason why Chinese AMPs are flooded with ugly and average looking old hags! If there were some Korean or Viet parlors I'd be giving more business to them especially if they had younger pretty ladies. So if they can rip us off we should do the same back by not tipping or giving next to nothing in tips for bad or no service! And These ladies could care less about us we are just suckers and $$ nothing more!
This is why.
I usually use my 1/2 days on Friday for mischief and I made my way toward WI to what I will call MP #2 from MN which I visited 1 other time and got a great massage and HE but limited groping. They had a wait of about 1/2 hr so I bailed and headed to what I'll call MP #3 from MN. Had a pretty fun time! Went in, not busy, provider was up front, not bad looking, friendly, not uptight about groping, I wore her down I guess because she had a sore back after 45 minutes of a great massage with some teasing so I told her to lay down and she did, I got to do more groping, and asked to fuck and she replied not now which led me to think it was a possibility in the future. I still want to got back to #2 because the gal who greeted me was a new face since first visit but I think tomorrow I may revisit #3 to see if anything and everything is possible. Wish me luck!
[QUOTE=SpectrumOfHulk;4524955]I usually use my 1/2 days on Friday for mischief and I made my way toward WI to what I will call MP #2 from MN which I visited 1 other time and got a great massage and HE but limited groping. They had a wait of about 1/2 hr so I bailed and headed to what I'll call MP #3 from MN. Had a pretty fun time! Went in, not busy, provider was up front, not bad looking, friendly, not uptight about groping, I wore her down I guess because she had a sore back after 45 minutes of a great massage with some teasing so I told her to lay down and she did, I got to do more groping, and asked to fuck and she replied not now which led me to think it was a possibility in the future. I still want to got back to #2 because the gal who greeted me was a new face since first visit but I think tomorrow I may revisit #3 to see if anything and everything is possible. Wish me luck![/QUOTE]Curious which places these are? I can share a couple spots that work every time as well. Thanks for sharing.
There are 6-7 places where a HE with limited roaming are a pretty sure thing but no "go to" places left like we had 6+ years ago when there were hot Thai providers in Chanhassen, a range of younger ones in Eden Prairie, and the ever-moving but reliable Method shop. You also had backpage / craiglist indies where a $40-60 session could turn into a FS / PSE party if there was chemistry and $. Prices are now much higher, there's far less competition and everyone is warier in general. There were also older AMP providers who knew how to do a great long tease and release and seemed to enjoy it. Now the older ones know there aren't many other options so it's like eating at an small airport Burger King or Subway. Minimum effort and overpriced.
Now there are maybe 1/3 the number of parlors, and 1/5 indies, and there's surprisingly little turnover so the same women have been at Burnsville, Eagan, Plymouth, Roseville spots for years and none of them are that attractive or flirty. I find it easier to 'turn' newer providers and at least there's the thrill of the unknown. I've switched to focusing on independent legit therapists and trying to work something out. Minny AMPs are just depressing.
I'll offer $50 for HE with roaming, $40 without. No haggling unless she's attractive (which hasn't been an issue in years) though I've given extra if the teasing starts early and is consistent with a good ending. If she does the typical nada nada nada and then suddenly offers a mechanical HJ with 10 min or less left, I always decline. $40+ is for a good tease and HJ, not just a quick release where I feel pressured.
I'll take a year off and try again at some point.
Everything WiseTraveler wrote couldn't be more accurate! I'm all but done wasting my hard earned money on these places unless they get some new crews with some attractive women for a fucking change. Doubt it'll happen though. No wonder so many of these shops close so frequently! In my experience Independents happen to a be a lot sexier and a nude massage + HE at the very least is almost always a sure bet! Plus they generally have upgrades to BJ DATY and FS! That's called getting your $$s worth! Getting a lame ass massage or HE with some old unattractive hag is NOT!!