Safe Mongering in Honolulu

[QUOTE=PVenkman;3681489]Here a scary thought though. If you had HIV, you are legally suppose to tell everyone you sleep with of your status or can go to jail. But if you go to an AMP, you are more or less anonymous. That AMP girl does BBFS with you and you give it to her, she has no idea where it came from by the amount of guys she probly is doing bb with also. Then she spreads it to us. Wonder why this never happened yet. There are some jerks in this world.[/QUOTE]I don't know why you think hasn't happened yet. Girls do disappear in this profession and all of them retire for different reasons.

[QUOTE=Idusixtyning;3680665]1) The medications have to be taken on a regular schedule, costly, and have their side effects too. With the current medications, have to take them for life as HIV won't be eradicated but suppressed.[/QUOTE]Those pills are also your only defense against dying a slow and painful death. I would hardly describe this as being trivial, especially in a place like Hawaii where a natural or man-made disaster could easily interrupt shipping or delivery of almost anything, even pharmaceuticals.

[QUOTE=PVenkman;3681489]Here a scary thought though. If you had HIV, you are legally suppose to tell everyone you sleep with of your status or can go to jail. But if you go to an AMP, you are more or less anonymous. That AMP girl does BBFS with you and you give it to her, she has no idea where it came from by the amount of guys she probly is doing bb with also. Then she spreads it to us. Wonder why this never happened yet. There are some jerks in this world.[/QUOTE]Just want to say that I am not HIV positive. I get tested regularly at my doctors office and have a clean bill of health. I would never knowingly infect someone with any STD and never spread knowingly spread HIV. That is sick and terrible.

I was just talking to all the fellow mongers who post about being scared, worried, paranoid about catching something going BB. I. e. Uh no the condom broke, I was so caught up in the moment. Stop worrying so much and more YOLO. Magic Johnson is still going strong, so you can live a long time.

[QUOTE=SureYourRight;3681710]I don't know why you think hasn't happened yet. Girls do disappear in this profession and all of them retire for different reasons.[/QUOTE]Perhaps, but don't you think there would be mongers on this forum telling how they caught HIV and whom to watch out for. And then name the last 10 girls he saw in the past. It would be much more difficult for an AMP girl to tell because of the high amount of numbers she is doing though. But nothing would stop her from saying f it, I'm going to do bb with everyone now and spread my hate.

[QUOTE=PVenkman;3682681]Perhaps, but don't you think there would be mongers on this forum telling how they caught HIV and whom to watch out for. And then name the last 10 girls he saw in the past. It would be much more difficult for an AMP girl to tell because of the high amount of numbers she is doing though. But nothing would stop her from saying f it, I'm going to do bb with everyone now and spread my hate.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure, but I believe making specific allegations about someone's health on these forums (and others) are prohibited and by that I mean, those kinds of allegations will get you banned. (As always, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)

On one hand, I can see why it's something that would have to be off-limits. There's assholes and shills who would start claiming so-and-so has something, and that would really cut into a girl's business or end a guy's ability to see girls. Slander and libel laws might come into play too.

And even if it's not intentional, it could still kill business. Let's say someone were to do what you suggested someone got something, so he posts the last 10 girls he saw. I'd be willing to bet there would be a lot of overlap between that list the last 10 a lot of other guys have seen because Hawaii is such a small market.

On the other hand, there is a very real risk of someone being reckless and the word needing to go out.

What's the solution? I don't know. I just hope it never comes to the point where a bunch of guys are posting how they got that strain of super VD that can't be cured by antibiotics.

[QUOTE=DangerBoy;3682784]I'm not sure, but I believe making specific allegations about someone's health on these forums (and others) are prohibited and by that I mean, those kinds of allegations will get you banned. (As always, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)
[/QUOTE]You are right. The first offense will be deleted with warning - 2nd will get you banned.

However, the way around the problem is simple and well described. You can say anything in a Private Message, so if you want to get the word out that someone gave you something simply say "send PM to get the specifics". You'll be busy as hell clearing your mailbox for a while but it will get the job done without violating the rules.

The beauty of this approach is that there is no public accusation so it does little good to try to post false information in order to hurt someone's business. It would be a lot of work to try to get the word out this way but it is within the rules.

[QUOTE=PVenkman;3682681]Perhaps, but don't you think there would be mongers on this forum telling how they caught HIV and whom to watch out for. And then name the last 10 girls he saw in the past. It would be much more difficult for an AMP girl to tell because of the high amount of numbers she is doing though. But nothing would stop her from saying f it, I'm going to do bb with everyone now and spread my hate.[/QUOTE]It could take up to 3 months for a positive HIV test to even show up if I'm remembering correctly. Some of you senior guys are in the AMP 3-4 times a week. And these are only the girls you are telling us about, who knows how many indies and hidden gems a guy could have. Again this is even if you are lucky enough to show symptoms. I'm sure if a girl did catch and STD she'd keep it quiet because that would pretty much be a death sentence to that AMP, and her career. Now she has to go from making 120 k a year back to a regular job? Just because some asshole guy gave her something she has no idea he had? That's an very hard pill for a person to swallow.

[QUOTE=PVenkman;3681489]Here a scary thought though. If you had HIV, you are legally suppose to tell everyone you sleep with of your status or can go to jail. But if you go to an AMP, you are more or less anonymous. That AMP girl does BBFS with you and you give it to her, she has no idea where it came from by the amount of guys she probly is doing bb with also. Then she spreads it to us. Wonder why this never happened yet. There are some jerks in this world.[/QUOTE]All it takes is just one infected guy that is a nut case and wanting to spread it to as many others as possible. And the most efficient vector is BBFS (especially anal) with providers. There are suicidal nut cases out there that want to indiscriminately harm people (like the Vegas shooter) and doesn't necessarily has to be a local guy from here.

[QUOTE=CoffeeBean;3676693]HPV immunizations were given originally to females only between ages 9 to 26. Later, it changed to include males. The new HCRA eff 10/1/16 doesn't have any age restrictions. Check with your insurance if it will be covered at no cost to you. Most plans are following HCRA recommendations. Might be able to get at Walgreens, Longs, or Safeway. Or an urgent care or clinic.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply but what is HCRA? I already checked with Walgreens and they won't vaccinate persons over 26 even if they pay out of pocket. I don't really want to go to my regular doctor for this, would rather just go to a clinic or pharmacy so I don't have to answer awkward questions.

What he just said about the HIV and not to worry about it? OMG.

[QUOTE=Honolulu69;3680693]It is scary to hear what you said.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WaikikiBeAC;3679163]Not sure why people are worried about Bareback. Just look at Magic Johnson, that guy has been living with HIV / AIDS for over 20 years and nothing is wrong with him, looks really healthy. So do not worry about diseases it is just society trying to scare you so you don't see working girls. If you do catch something all you do is take a few pills and its gone, worst case you get HIV and will live 20-30 years like Magic Johnson I. E. A normal and healthy life.

Don't let society scare you about STD's or HIV / AIDS its not like the movies where Hollywood is trying to promote an agenda for the Government and regulate our morales. YOLO like Magic Johnson.[/QUOTE]The other thing besides the comments others have posted is that if these meds are like other meds they work for some people and for other people they don't. I don't think any med is 100% effective all the time. You don't want to be the one who gets the particular viris that is resistant to the meds.

[QUOTE=JimBoyden;3726274]The other thing besides the comments others have posted is that if these meds are like other meds they work for some people and for other people they don't. I don't think any med is 100% effective all the time. You don't want to be the one who gets the particular viris that is resistant to the meds.[/QUOTE]Not telling anyone to do anything but how would catching the new drug resistant gonorrhea make you feel? [URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/health/sexual-health/3-common-stds-becoming-untreatable-what-happens-now-n642161[/URL].

[QUOTE=JackHolly;3851730]I've always wondered about girls who were CFS only that switch to allowing BBFS regularly. Did they just change their mind and expand their menu? Or did they catch something and no longer care? Always makes me nervous. Doesn't stop me from BBFS sometimes though! *crosses fingers*.[/QUOTE]Personally, I think that the primary motivation for most of the providers who switch is one of the most powerful motivations in the world: Money. Especially as providers become older and less attractive, they can make more money as an accommodating BBFS-available provider rather than as a strict CFS-only provider, because BBFS is more enjoyable and exciting (both physically and psychologically) for many customers. Of course, there may be some nervous CFS-only customers who will stop visiting a provider who switches from CFS-only to BBFS-available, but the potential loss of those customers will almost certainly be more than offset by gaining BBFS customers.

In most cases, I don't think the "catch something and no longer care" scenario would be the primary cause of the switch. In the first place, catching an STD would be less likely (although not impossible) for a CFS-only provider. Second, most STDs are troublesome but non-permanent if medically treated, so if a provider caught a non-permanent STD that wouldn't be a logical reason for her to then increase her risk of catching that same STD again or catching some other (possibly permanent) STD. Third, even if a provider caught a non-curable STD, that wouldn't be a rational basis for her to raise her risk of catching another STD. For example, most providers wouldn't think "Hey, I've already caught genital herpes, so why not substantially increase my risk of catching syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia".

[URL]http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38658867/hawaii-continues-to-lead-the-country-in-cases-of-antibiotic-resistant-gonorrhea[/URL]

[QUOTE=Blake123;3865270][URL]http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38658867/hawaii-continues-to-lead-the-country-in-cases-of-antibiotic-resistant-gonorrhea[/URL][/QUOTE]This has been a thing for awhile. From Scientific American, July 15,2016: "Gonorrhea May Soon Be Resistant to all Antibiotics".

[URL]https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gonorrhea-may-soon-be-resistant-to-all-antibiotics/[/URL]