Seems a little blunt but fun, Anyone?. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1f1cd211-2ef2-4c16-a027-0b45be96f605[/URL].
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Seems a little blunt but fun, Anyone?. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1f1cd211-2ef2-4c16-a027-0b45be96f605[/URL].
[QUOTE=BStreet;4311477]Seems a little blunt but fun, Anyone?. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1f1cd211-2ef2-4c16-a027-0b45be96f605[/URL].[/QUOTE]She has been around for a couple of years under various names.
A little too GPS when I contacted her last year.
[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4310327]She is not fake. But she does have massive GPS. I almost pulled the trigger once but after me agreeing to 7 she told me she would only hang for 30-45 min AND wanted to Uber her to the hotel lmao. At that point I said F this.[/QUOTE]If you never actually met her, how do you know her pics are real?
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;4310774] You can still keep up now, but in 10-15 years from now, you really aren't going to anymore. That is just the sad reality of aging. She will still be a young, hot, early 30's thing and you will be the old man. She will stray and you'll be left holding the bag. The sad reality of sugar dating is while it allows us to revisit our youth, or in my case, have the youth I never experienced when I was younger, it will end. It will somehow, someway always end.
I was where you are now. Early 40's new to the bowl, going out on real dates, making out in public, having sex in the bathroom with these girls, in my car in the downtown parking garage, getting shit faced drunk at the college bars, her showing me off to her friends, etc. I got to do the thing sI never did in my twenties and it was amazing. But those times are behind me as I've gotten older.[/QUOTE]Woah there. I'm 65 and my current ATF is 19. At a minimum I am going to be 3 times the age of any girl I bang, as I almost never date anyone over 21. Have my abilities gone down? Sure. Being the over sexed perve that I was in my forties, I was good to go marathon style. But today with a little help from some V & C I can still get in a good hour if any girl can last that long. And lets face it, most girls don't even want to fuck for that long. Of course I keep the weight off as well. And sometimes I wonder where will I be at 70. Hopefully still banging away.
And staying with some girl till she is in her 30's? Who is doing that? Not me, thats for sure. If you can get a year or two out of any SB thats a home run in my book. Any girl that you take to the FC more than 50 times.. another home run. I like variety so no matter how many I love you's come out of my mouth, I am never that emotionally invested to the point where another hot young girl couldn't fix the loss of an ATF. I have dated the loyal types and the totally wild party girls. I prefer the party girls as they are usually less emotionally dependent. But not always.
And even when the sex really goes down or becomes impossible (which is really only intercourse, because nothing else is off the menu), there is still the joy of knowing you can have a beautiful, attentive, cuddly girl by your side that will let you make out and fondle her. I have encountered a couple of disabled SD's and they still had some game (one was 85). I imagine that they were like me... meaning this hobby is their only hobby. So why give it up. It's actually very comforting to know I will always be able to have a cute girl at any age. And def makes getting older a lot more palatable.
I don't visit this thread too often, but it seems to have gotten a little more interesting as of late. But I read all the SD threads as I like to see the differences across the country. And as usual, just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4312048]If you never actually met her, how do you know her pics are real?[/QUOTE]Because I met her for a M&G.
[QUOTE=Walruscl;4308994]for the first four years of our five-year relationship, it was an absolutely out-of-this-world experience. Everything from the sex, to the teamwork, the effortless companionship, the mutual emotional support.[/QUOTE]This. "Out of this world" is definitely one way to describe it. I called it magic, because for me, that's exactly how it felt. Everyone should experience a relationship like that at least once in their life.
[QUOTE=Walruscl;4308994]I do not regret the relationship, it was pivotal in my life. I only regret not having the perspective to have made different choices at various inflection points late in the game.[/QUOTE]That is exactly how I feel as well. My relationship has certainly informed my perspective in ways I could have never imagined or anticipated. I am still dealing with these realizations now, and it's giving me a lot to think about with respect to what I want out of life and what I need to be willing to do to find it.
[QUOTE=Walruscl;4308994]I'm now with a new SB (...) I feel safe in the assumption that our parting will be bittersweet but amicable.[/QUOTE]Experience is certainly the best teacher, isn't it? I'm glad you've found yourself in a better situation, and when the end does come, I hope it goes as well as you expect!
[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;4309442]We recently split because she was pushing for marriage and kids. I've already been there and done that so it's not something I'm ready for. We still talk daily and see each other occasionally.
I remain friends and talk to several girls from SA and strip clubs that I've known for 9+ years.[/QUOTE]That's always going to be an issue with the vast majority of girls in their 20's. I think had I been more eager to have another child, my girlfriend and I would have made it work. At the end she told me that if I was already divorced there was no question we would have settled down and gotten married. So timing was an issue, but I have had a vasectomy, so that was another obstacle. Although truth be told after 4+ years together, I'm 100% sure that vasectomy saved me more than once LOL.
Like you, I am still in contact with most of the girls I've seen for any length of time over the years. I've been fortunate to have some great experiences in the bowl and I've made some very good friends as a result.
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;4310774]But lets say you're 41 and she 21; The example you gave. You can still keep up now, but in 10-15 years from now, you really aren't going to anymore. That is just the sad reality of aging. She will still be a young, hot, early 30's thing and you will be the old man. She will stray and you'll be left holding the bag.[/QUOTE]That is the risk for sure. 20 years of separation is the very upper limit for me. I take good care of myself and am often told I look much younger than my 46 years. I think I'm going to hold up pretty well. Even so, it would definitely have its challenges, and my case, the only reason I would have even considered it is because of how fantastic my specific experience was with my long term girlfriend. She was naturally attracted to older men and regularly commented favorably on guys in their 50's and 60's. I felt like she would have been a pretty safe bet. It couldn't have worked out any worse than my current wife LOL. That said, my grandfather left my grandmother after 20 years of marriage for a secretary 20 years his junior, and sure enough, as he approached 75 she found herself a guy closer to her own age for extracurricular fun after work. So I'm well aware of the risks. Let me put it this way. If I'm on match, I am looking in the 10-12 year range. So long as I'm on seeking, bring on the hot twenty somethings.
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;4310774]Most of the girls I've developed feelings with, or opened up to, get attached. And I mean seriously attached. They are needing something in their lives, or to be able to understand something about their lives and I gave them that.[/QUOTE]I'll cosign on this. This has absolutely been true in my experience as well.
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;4310774]This was some eight years back now, when I started in the bowl. But as I've aged in the past eight years, I've realized those days needed to end. (..) I've accepted the reality that this is a fantasy, maybe just for me, maybe for her as well, but it's not going anywhere.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;4310774]I was where you are now. Early 40's new to the bowl, going out on real dates, making out in public, having sex in the bathroom with these girls, in my car in the downtown parking garage, getting shit faced drunk at the college bars, her showing me off to her friends, etc. I got to do the thing sI never did in my twenties and it was amazing. But those times are behind me as I've gotten older. So if you're able to still be in that zone with your babies? Enjoy it man, cause it don't last forever. Now, for me? I'm still the different SD to most of the girls I hang with. They open up to me, we snuggle, we fuck we might have dinner, but the idea that she views me as, "maybe this guy could really be something?" Well, those days are now passing me by.[/QUOTE]This is exactly the transition I'm dealing with now as I come to the same realization as well. The long term relationship I described in my original post was the last one I'll ever have where I could entertain plausible thoughts of a future with a college aged girl. I am seeing a new girl now, she's 25 years younger than me and we've been together for 4 months. The relationship is great, she is officially my girlfriend and she gives me all of the attention I want and need. She's a constant presence in my life and our dates are fantastic. But there is absolutely zero chance of a future together. She's 100% OK with that as she's tired of college boys and seems very happy to have a mature guy in her life that treats her well. She's told me she could easily see us staying together until she gets out of college. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but for me, it's never going to be as fulfilling as a relationship with potential. I know I'm just borrowing her for a little while, and that's going to be the case with any girl 20+ years younger than me. I guess there are worse things in life than having a super hot 21 year old that wants to give you all of her time, attention and affection, right? #sugardaddyproblems.
[QUOTE=Hal1957;4207493]Is it just me, or has SA changed the way they present messages? The old trick to read after your membership expires doesn't seem to work anymore.[/QUOTE]This trick has been working for me on a Mac using Chrome. It worked as of this afternoon 6/11/19, but when I went to use it tonight, it no longer works. I go thru the same procedure as before, but now when it says upgrade to read, it just says approved and that is now as far as it goes. Did they finally close the loop hole?
Just now logged in to check my messages. The 'original_body' tag seems to have disappeared from the string. Maybe someone at SA is reading these forums. LOL.
Any new way to hack SA?
[QUOTE=Zcochran00;3939986]I'm a programmer, and I spend a good portion of my time doing web development. I've noted that SA has been rewriting portions of their site from a traditional "click link, wait for server return the new page" style to a "single-page application" approach. Turns out that due to some rather silly programming choices on their part, it's actually possible to view the text content of messages even if you don't have premium time enabled.
It involves opening up your browser's "development tools" window so you can inspect the contents of the page and the data being requested, and should work in either Chrome or Firefox.
Log in to SA and go to your inbox. Right-click anywhere on the page and choose "Inspect Element". The browser's dev tools should either pop up as a separate window, or as part of the main window. Click on the "network" tab in the dev tools. Then, back in the SA inbox screen, click on a conversation.
If you go back to the "network" tab, you should see a list of all the data requests the SA page asked for from the server. One of them should look like "/ inbox? Page=1&limit=25". Click on that one. It'll show a bunch of technical details of some of the message headers.
Now, look for a tab called "Response". If you click on that, you should see a tree with sections like "status", "message", "conversation", and "metadata". Expand "conversation" "messages" "data". You should see some numbered entries, 0 and up. Those represent each of the messages in the conversation, from both of you. (Side note: the "metadata" object has a whole bunch of info that they know about your own account. Some of it is info you entered yourself, like profile info. There's also things like "payments_total", which appears to be how much you've actually ever paid SA, unread message count, whether you're in the EU, and even fields labeled "has_under_age_punishment" and "has_unacknowledged_punishment". Very interesting.)
Each message entry has a field called "body", which is the text that's shown in your inbox. If you've got premium active, it's the actual message text. If not, it's "Upgrade to read".
Here's where they did something silly. They send back the text that should be shown, but *they also send back the original text too*. So, even if the "body" field says "Upgrade to read", the "original_body" field shows the actual no-kidding message that was sent. You can inspect each of the messages that was received, and effectively read the conversation.
It's not a substitute for reading messages in the inbox as usual, but it might be helpful for anyone who gets a message when they don't have premium active and wants to peek at it without having to immediately shell out the cash to read it.
As a programmer, I can tell that there's actually a _ton_ of useful information being returned whenever you view a profile page or inbox page. It would be possible for someone to write a browser extension that either extracted some of that info from a page, or re-requested that data from the server, and did something useful with it (up to and including modifying an inbox to show all the messages without needing premium enabled). Sadly, I don't have time to work on anything like that myself. I've got a lot of other things on my plate.
Hope that helps![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Roxoff801;4314847]This trick has been working for me on a Mac using Chrome. It worked as of this afternoon 6/11/19, but when I went to use it tonight, it no longer works. I go thru the same procedure as before, but now when it says upgrade to read, it just says approved and that is now as far as it goes. Did they finally close the loop hole?[/QUOTE]I find the same thing. Oh well, it was a good ride while it lasted. I was using this a lot, I'd just share my private photos w / a girl, sometimes I'd get a simple response ('hey' on a few occasions I got a phone # asking to text. Sometimes, of course, that meant she was an escort, but I am texting w / a couple of young asian girls right now. We'll see where they lead.
[QUOTE=JohnRichard;4314890]Just now logged in to check my messages. The 'original_body' tag seems to have disappeared from the string. Maybe someone at SA is reading these forums. LOL.
Any new way to hack SA?[/QUOTE]Same here. Worked yesterday morning. Now I can't read the same message.
[QUOTE=JohnRichard;4314890]Just now logged in to check my messages. The 'original_body' tag seems to have disappeared from the string. Maybe someone at SA is reading these forums. LOL.
Any new way to hack SA?[/QUOTE]Yeah, the inspect (network) tool doesn't work anymore! They upgraded their site interface a little too. This must've been on their list of pending development fixes. Nothing lasts forever; ironically enough, even if it's on the web.
Now it's either start new profile and get a weekly sub or pay the full fee. If anyone finds a new "hack" please keep us posted. Back to Tinder, etc. For now I guess. The monthly fee isn't terrible, but I don't really need to pay just to use a site full of scammers and deluded pros to bust one.
-CQ.
[QUOTE=ChiefQueef;4315264]Yeah, the inspect (network) tool doesn't work anymore! They upgraded their site interface a little too. This must've been on their list of pending development fixes. Nothing lasts forever; ironically enough, even if it's on the web.
Now it's either start new profile and get a weekly sub or pay the full fee. If anyone finds a new "hack" please keep us posted. Back to Tinder, etc. For now I guess. The monthly fee isn't terrible, but I don't really need to pay just to use a site full of scammers and deluded pros to bust one.
-CQ.[/QUOTE]How do you get a weekly sub?
[QUOTE=Roxoff801;4314847]This trick has been working for me on a Mac using Chrome. It worked as of this afternoon 6/11/19, but when I went to use it tonight, it no longer works. I go thru the same procedure as before, but now when it says upgrade to read, it just says approved and that is now as far as it goes. Did they finally close the loop hole?[/QUOTE]Looks like they closed this loop.
[QUOTE=Zcochran00;4189521]As the person who wrote the original tip:
The difference probably isn't the OS, it's what browser you're using. It looks like "Epic Browser" is a fork of Chrome / Chromium, so the DevTools should exist and I'd expect them to be similar to what I described. But, yeah, it may be possible it doesn't have an "object tree" view of the retrieved response, just the "raw JSON string" view.
Also, depending on timing, you may have opened up the DevTools _after_ the "Inbox" network request finished, in which case it might not show up in the list. Don't close the DevTools window here. Just hitting F5 to refresh that conversation page should re-request all the data, and the "Inbox" request item should appear in that DevTools list.
All the messages _should_ be in that response. There's a copy of the latest one by itself, and then _all_ of the messages later on.[/QUOTE]This does not work any more.
Need to find a new hack.
[QUOTE=EvilTmp;4309460]That statement makes sense if you're only seeing pros. I'm not judging but I stay far, far away from pros or volume girls on SA. It's obviously not what we're talking about here. Like the old saying goes, your experience in the bowl is what you make of it. You go looking for pros and that's what you get. You go looking for something deeper and that's what you'll also get![/QUOTE]Not all the girls on SA are Pros, but they are definitely all there for money. I dare you to ask any girl on there if she would have sex with you for no compensation, and see what kind of reaction you get. If you agree to have sex for a certain amount of money and then you don't give them the money, you have conned and robbed them. If they were there for you, they'd be on some swinger site where young girls screw old men for free.
[QUOTE=TopGun9;4316060]Looks like they closed this loop.[/QUOTE]Mine's no longer working either.
I am sure a few of you will tell me to find an escort or go on a Fetish site but I just want a regular SB that won't freak out or be too ticklish for a little fun with her tootsies before moving on to the main event. One I messaged yesterday says she gets tired of guys messaging her about feet so there must be more than me out there looking. Please PM me if you have any confirmed encounters with White or Latino gals who will see older gents. If I find one in my search I will post it up here in case another fan of feet is looking.
[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4312353]Because I met her for a M&G.[/QUOTE]I also did a M&G.
[QUOTE=EvilTmp;4308115]Something I've done in the past is simply stop gifting after the dead. Not asking ahead of time if it's ok, not making any excuses, just spend a great evening and then go home. [/QUOTE]It sounds like you're taking your life in your hands. If I've been seeing an SB for a long period of time, she'll usually see me occasionally for a little less if I'm short on cash, but there's definitely a limit on that before she becomes irritate. I don't scam hot broke girls for entertainment. You're obviously the reason why I have to pay upfront, which makes the guys and the girls uncomfortable, but everybody's got to look out for the guys like you. I guess we all have to be punished because of the few bad seeds.
[QUOTE=Sterling44;4316802]Not all the girls on SA are Pros, but they are definitely all there for money. I dare you to ask any girl on there if she would have sex with you for no compensation, and see what kind of reaction you get. If you agree to have sex for a certain amount of money and then you don't give them the money, you have conned and robbed them. If they were there for you, they'd be on some swinger site where young girls screw old men for free.[/QUOTE]My experience trumps your assumptions. Nobody ever said agreeing to an amount and then not paying. There are a small minority of girls on SA that are genuinely attracted to older guys and the money is secondary to having a connection. Yes, they will all take the money, duh. But in the end some of these girls want a relationship with a great, older daddy figure. Read the stories below of guys having long term relationships with younger girls. Just because you've never experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Very true! This has happened to me when I transitioned a sugar relationship to a vanilla relationship with a woman 30+ years my junior. It does happen.
The main point is that she told me she didn't want me to think she only wanted to see me for the allowance. She asked to stop the allowance so she could demonstrate her genuine feelings.
I never decided on my own to stop paying it was a discussion.
Its happened several times. I'm mid-50's, in very good shape, told I can pass for 10-15 years younger and many young women are attracted to succesful, confident "Silver Foxs". LOL. Most of People Magazines Sexiest Man of the year have been around 50 for the last 20 years.
[QUOTE=EvilTmp;4316957]My experience trumps your assumptions. Nobody ever said agreeing to an amount and then not paying. There are a small minority of girls on SA that are genuinely attracted to older guys and the money is secondary to having a connection. Yes, they will all take the money, duh. But in the end some of these girls want a relationship with a great, older daddy figure. Read the stories below of guys having long term relationships with younger girls. Just because you've never experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]
I have stopped paying an allowance several times, but never without a discussion. That's my objection.
[QUOTE=EvilTmp;4309460]That statement makes sense if you're only seeing pros. I'm not judging but I stay far, far away from pros or volume girls on SA. It's obviously not what we're talking about here. Like the old saying goes, your experience in the bowl is what you make of it. You go looking for pros and that's what you get. You go looking for something deeper and that's what you'll also get![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sterling44;4316802]Not all the girls on SA are Pros, but they are definitely all there for money. I dare you to ask any girl on there if she would have sex with you for no compensation, and see what kind of reaction you get. If you agree to have sex for a certain amount of money and then you don't give them the money, you have conned and robbed them. If they were there for you, they'd be on some swinger site where young girls screw old men for free.[/QUOTE]I've had a number of girls over the years see me with no allowance involved.
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Then they weren't hookers nor "sugar babies" they were chicks you fucked.
That's not the topic of conversation.
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[QUOTE=DoneThatOnce;4316839]I am sure a few of you will tell me to find an escort or go on a Fetish site but I just want a regular SB that won't freak out or be too ticklish for a little fun with her tootsies before moving on to the main event. One I messaged yesterday says she gets tired of guys messaging her about feet so there must be more than me out there looking. Please PM me if you have any confirmed encounters with White or Latino gals who will see older gents. If I find one in my search I will post it up here in case another fan of feet is looking.[/QUOTE]No matter what your fetish, your best bet is to describe it in your profile so you don't waste time with those who aren't into it.
Be up front and let them know what you are looking for in an arrangement. Doing so will eliminate those who aren't into your fetish, and attract those who either are into it, or are willing to learn.
Just like anything in life. Ask for what you want. You will be surprised to find someone who will provide it.
[QUOTE=Truncated;4318171]No matter what your fetish, your best bet is to describe it in your profile so you don't waste time with those who aren't into it.
Be up front and let them know what you are looking for in an arrangement. Doing so will eliminate those who aren't into your fetish, and attract those who either are into it, or are willing to learn.
Just like anything in life. Ask for what you want. You will be surprised to find someone who will provide it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, I will do that. I just left the escort world after using STG girls for awhile. Wanting a clean start I got a STD test this week that came back clean. Curious about whether Sugar Babies would consider that a plus or will they think I have seen lots of risky women-which I have?
One other question. I see a real cutie on Secret Benefits that is not on Seeking. Any chance she is real or are most of those fake with a few real ones on there? I do see the Sugary Sweet girl that people warned about on both sites.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/452247c7-8da2-46c7-883d-76652018aa43[/URL]
I saw her a couple months ago in NOVA under a different profile. She only plays covered and is a higher volume SB, really more of a UTR. I've gotten lucky with a ton of first time 18 yo sbs lately so I'm spoiled but she just kind of sucked. Lots of rules and a sense of entitlement. Inflated self worth too, tried to get $700 out of me. Wasn't bad but just totally and completely mediocre.
Here is my review from the NOVA forum:
Goes by Emily, I got her down to $250 after meeting at the hotel bar. She's not the best looking but I already had a hotel room from my 10/10 high school stunner earlier. She also had not shaved for a few days, legs were prickly and armpits had stubble. Also, major coffee breadth as she came from work. F*s like a pro, great BBBJ. Once I was ready she whipped out her own condoms and effortlessly rolled it on me before climbing on. I would say she has done sex work for a while. Still a college student so I don't think she's a quite a UTR. She insits on covered full service, with a potential for bareback "down the line" but never CIP.
I don't plan to repeat, this is routine for her. I like fresh, new SB's and Emily is certainly not fresh or new. Especially since I had just enjoyed a gorgeous and meticulously groomed high school girl who let me ride bareback without a second thought.
New to this game. Trying to see where to found sb in rva?
Any body seen her? Is she clean? Share experience.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8ba9bc34-63fa-45ec-9cae-78e95f6cedad[/URL]
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4319061][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/452247c7-8da2-46c7-883d-76652018aa43[/URL]
I saw her a couple months ago in NOVA under a different profile. She only plays covered and is a higher volume SB, really more of a UTR. I've gotten lucky with a ton of first time 18 yo sbs lately so I'm spoiled but she just kind of sucked. Lots of rules and a sense of entitlement. Inflated self worth too, tried to get $700 out of me. Wasn't bad but just totally and completely mediocre.
Here is my review from the NOVA forum:
Goes by Emily, I got her down to $250 after meeting at the hotel bar. She's not the best looking but I already had a hotel room from my 10/10 high school stunner earlier. She also had not shaved for a few days, legs were prickly and armpits had stubble. Also, major coffee breadth as she came from work. F*s like a pro, great BBBJ. Once I was ready she whipped out her own condoms and effortlessly rolled it on me before climbing on. I would say she has done sex work for a while. Still a college student so I don't think she's a quite a UTR. She insits on covered full service, with a potential for bareback "down the line" but never CIP.
I don't plan to repeat, this is routine for her. I like fresh, new SB's and Emily is certainly not fresh or new. Especially since I had just enjoyed a gorgeous and meticulously groomed high school girl who let me ride bareback without a second thought.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. I am in contact with her but we haven't discussed details. So far comes across as the typical coed. With more info in hand I shall see where it may lead. Perhaps I will tell her I am a leg man to be sure she shaves them ahead of time.
I know what mean about stubble. I have run across more than one that neglected to take time to shave for me. I called one out on it and she said was only expecting a quick BJ and not a full romp in the bed.
I will update if I see her. Going to send her a message that should get her attention for latter today perhaps.
[QUOTE=JustLonely;4319591]Thanks for the review. I am in contact with her but we haven't discussed details. So far comes across as the typical coed. With more info in hand I shall see where it may lead. Perhaps I will tell her I am a leg man to be sure she shaves them ahead of time.
I know what mean about stubble. I have run across more than one that neglected to take time to shave for me. I called one out on it and she said was only expecting a quick BJ and not a full romp in the bed.
I will update if I see her. Going to send her a message that should get her attention for latter today perhaps.[/QUOTE]She was coming from work and we set up same day (another clue this isn't a low volume gal) but didn't mention it. I would have been happy to delay an hour or two for her to freshen up, even than she would have only been a 6. I'll be curious what she charges you.
[QUOTE=DoneThatOnce;4318709]Thanks for the advice, I will do that. I just left the escort world after using STG girls for awhile. Wanting a clean start I got a STD test this week that came back clean. Curious about whether Sugar Babies would consider that a plus or will they think I have seen lots of risky women-which I have?
.[/QUOTE]Go to an online service like Lemonaid: [URL]https://www.lemonaidhealth.com/services/std-testing[/URL].
Get yourself tested and show the results to any potential SB. Ask her to do the same, and pay for it.
There are plenty of other similar companies out there, so don't take this post as me endorsing Lemonaid specifically. They all outsource the local testing to a local lab like Quest Diagnostics.
[URL]AnyLabTestNow.com[/URL] is also a reputable and reasonable source for testing.
Also, Lemonaid sells Viagra and Cialis generic at fair prices, and the screening process is easy. I used to buy them from the Indian sellers, but stopped after I ended up with a really questionable batch of pills. The cheapest way to get those meds is to go to Bangkok and buy them OTC. I've flown back with 1,000 pills and never had a problem at customs. The cost there is absurdly cheap.
Both of the places I mention charge about $60 for testing, and the results are emailed in 48 hours or less.
[QUOTE=Sterling44;4316802]Not all the girls on SA are Pros, but they are definitely all there for money. I dare you to ask any girl on there if she would have sex with you for no compensation, and see what kind of reaction you get. If you agree to have sex for a certain amount of money and then you don't give them the money, you have conned and robbed them. If they were there for you, they'd be on some swinger site where young girls screw old men for free.[/QUOTE]What an asinine approach. Try asking civvy girls you date if they will have sex with you for no money, see how far you get. In civvy dating, do you ask if the girl will fuck before you take her out to dinner?
The point is, if you want a girl who won't act like a pro, don't treat them like pros. I have given every sugar baby I have hooked up with money. But you would be amazed at how many I have fucked without any specific agreement on it. Treat them like a date, pound'them hard, and slip something into their purse when you are done. That's how you get the most non-pro experience out of it. Sure, lots of SB's won't have sex with you without an explicit agreement on the donation, but lots of them will. And I guarantee you, no true pro will do that. So if you want to eliminate the pros, don't hook up with anyone who insists on talking money in advance.
I would be careful on how descriptive you get not to cross the "pay 4 play" threshold that gets people banned from Seeking. Leave the direct discussions to text and in person.
[QUOTE=Truncated;4318171]No matter what your fetish, your best bet is to describe it in your profile so you don't waste time with those who aren't into it.
Be up front and let them know what you are looking for in an arrangement. Doing so will eliminate those who aren't into your fetish, and attract those who either are into it, or are willing to learn.
Just like anything in life. Ask for what you want. You will be surprised to find someone who will provide it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;4320715]I would be careful on how descriptive you get not to cross the "pay 4 play" threshold that gets people banned from Seeking. Leave the direct discussions to text and in person.[/QUOTE]100% agree.
Never talk money on Seeking.
[QUOTE=DoneThatOnce;4318709]Thanks for the advice, I will do that. I just left the escort world after using STG girls for awhile. Wanting a clean start I got a STD test this week that came back clean. Curious about whether Sugar Babies would consider that a plus or will they think I have seen lots of risky women-which I have?
[/QUOTE]This is a positive. It shows that you are in control of your sexual health and emotionally capable to share it. There is no need to tell her about all the grimy twat that made you question your status in the first place.
I have a 19 yr old coed that wanted EVERYTHING covered. Smart girl, she did her research and doesn't want chlamydia in her throat. I got my std test and a vasectomy, next meet up (2 months later) and everything is bareback now. Still shooting my load on her pretty face every time, tho.
Anyone with any experience with her: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/59b59530-bef0-45e9-a80f-bd0fd8207b6f[/URL].
I have a SB I have seen about every other week for a few months. There's been a lag recently. I text today, and she responds "Happy Father's Day". She knows I don't have kids. What does this say?
Trying to learn how to meet sb in Richmond I been on seeking and it seems pretty dry.