Seeking Arrangements (SA)

[QUOTE=DrSummer;4937416]Quick Question. Once you decide you are not going to pursue a certain girl, what type of present they will find inside the envelope you give to her? Or regardless you are going to pursue them or not, you have a standard gift you give to them anyway? Just curious.

Play Safe.

Dr. S.[/QUOTE]You'll find as many approaches to how one comes to an arrangement as you will find the variety of potential SBs out there. I have never and will never pay them for a meet-and-greet since it's essentially a job interview for them. I'd just procure a session for a pro-ho if I were in the business of doing that. Also keep in mind that I could set up 5 or more meet-and-greets in a week. I will provide a small gift, non-monetary, as a token of appreciate for their meeting with me. I refuse to make an offer in terms of an allowance and will simply base that on what their needs are and if I think that they are within the realm of ladies who are "worth" (yes, that's relative) what they are asking. If what they expect is not within the range of her peers of similar age, looks, etc. , I respectfully decline and wish her well. I don't negotiate and simply let her know that she can seek a situation elsewhere. I don't pay by the hour on SA, but generally base it on the session or experience. I've been doing this over a decade and it averages out to about 62.50/ hour and many have spent overnight.

I inform the potential SBs that they are competing with other ladies, even show them the profiles if they choose, and that they have to stand out in order to make the cut; I don't pursue any of them with reckless abandon since the supply is so plentiful. Some of the most idiotic stuff I hear on here are dudes who say "you get what you pay for", "it's about quality not quantity", "pussy is pussy", or any other idioms that try to mask that they aren't necessarily maximizing their time and / or money on SA.

If the potential SBs can get about 150 for a lunch / dinner or general meet and greet, I'd recommend that they do that continually and never make it between the sheets with anyone. Plenty of dudes, many who don't venture out as much, are willing to do that and the gals can make a good living off of that practice (even better than those who hoard deposits). Funny enough .,., I've had females offer up freebies since they've met with dudes who gave them money for nothing (they considered already being paid for their time I suppose). I've never handed over the amount of a session to any gal on SA for which I didn't seal the deal with some type of sexual activity; I've provided gas money or an Uber ride on occasion. What works for you in the beginning won't necessarily work for you as your tastes and proclivities change with respect to the Sugaring lifestyle. I've detailed in previous posts how I book a hotel suite for several days and conduct many of the interviews there; just an alternate approach to wasting time in a public place. I'm not a proponent of providing something for nothing, especially not in envelope form, so I don't and won't. Different strokes for different folks, we each move differently through the same spaces, and as always.,.,., YMMV.

Happy hunting,. ,

Milfman.

So I try and log on to the Seeking site today and discover I'm suspended, and I have no idea why. I have been on and off the site for 4 years and never had a problem, respectful and careful about communication and switch to text when there is interest from the girl. Have others had this issue? I guess I just need to make a new profile but lost the remaining part of this months subscription I guess. Just before this happened I started getting messages from other girls accounts that I had never had communication with stating things like "don't ask me for my number" and such. Several single messages out of the blue that I simply ignored, and now I'm suspended. Just FYI.

Mule.

[QUOTE=LayenLow;4937887]I normally start with $140.00 in the envelope. Enough to let them know I am serious, but I will not be an ATM anytime they want. With some women I have met and they have "catfished" me with deceptive pictures or info then I have been known to take money out of the envelope while at lunch, but I always give at least $80.00 for time and gas even if it was horrible. The $140.00 amount stays regular for every meeting until we finally agree on being in an arrangement. I like to start by seeing them twice a week which equals $280 per week and that is about what my goal for a monthly arrangement is. So my advice is whatever your goal is for monthly allowance then start by giving that much per week / meet to get them use to how much you will spend before you have the allowance talk. Anytime the allowance talk comes up before I am ready then I say "we need to make sure our schedules work out and that we get along before we can decide that". My last arrangement was $1,000 to $1,200 per month and my current one is $800 per month because that is what she agreed to after I stated $1,000 per month. Of course on top of allowances they get great presents for any holiday and special occasions.[/QUOTE]How is this possible? 140 per meet? I live in Los Angeles, so my situation is different. If I ever suggested that to a potential SB, she would hire an assassin to end me. The cheapest I ever had was 200 and she complained bitterly till we stopped seeing each other. I haven't had another woman for less than 300, and 400 is the going rate now. You folks in other cities are living the life!

[QUOTE=PlowMule;4938326]So I try and log on to the Seeking site today and discover I'm suspended, and I have no idea why. I have been on and off the site for 4 years and never had a problem, respectful and careful about communication and switch to text when there is interest from the girl. Have others had this issue? I guess I just need to make a new profile but lost the remaining part of this months subscription I guess. Just before this happened I started getting messages from other girls accounts that I had never had communication with stating things like "don't ask me for my number" and such. Several single messages out of the blue that I simply ignored, and now I'm suspended. Just FYI.

Mule.[/QUOTE]Something very similar happened to me a couple months ago. I was a couple days away from my subscription expiring and I started to get a lot (over 50) of messages. By the time I got on, it was apparent someone had gained access to my account and was conversing with people from places mainly outside of the US. When I logged in, it must have triggered some alert because my account was suspended before I could even change my password. I reached out to customer service and they gave me the run around and essentially told me to have a better password next time. If I had diamond status it might have gone differently, but I was using a fake name and address so didn't have a leg to stand on.

Fwiw I just created a new account, new name, new address, and new password and haven't had any issues since.

-JB1223.

[QUOTE=LayenLow;4937887]I normally start with $140.00 in the envelope. Enough to let them know I am serious, but I will not be an ATM anytime they want. With some women I have met and they have "catfished" me with deceptive pictures or info then I have been known to take money out of the envelope while at lunch, but I always give at least $80.00 for time and gas even if it was horrible. The $140.00 amount stays regular for every meeting until we finally agree on being in an arrangement. I like to start by seeing them twice a week which equals $280 per week and that is about what my goal for a monthly arrangement is. So my advice is whatever your goal is for monthly allowance then start by giving that much per week / meet to get them use to how much you will spend before you have the allowance talk. Anytime the allowance talk comes up before I am ready then I say "we need to make sure our schedules work out and that we get along before we can decide that". My last arrangement was $1,000 to $1,200 per month and my current one is $800 per month because that is what she agreed to after I stated $1,000 per month. Of course on top of allowances they get great presents for any holiday and special occasions.[/QUOTE]I am a little higher than those amounts but not much. Between $250 and $400 per week depending roughly on the frequency of meeting. My problem is getting rewarding LTRs as I find real NSA relationships more rewarding both sexually and otherwise. I have managed one for 10 years - (I married her (!) and was faithful to her) - and a couple lasting a month or two (up to 6 months). BTW being single I wouldn't do sugar dating at all if there were a non-sugar dating website where younger women and older men could get together. I find that on the sites like match dot com the ladies, although they can specify older men, rarely go over 10-15 years older than themselves and that tends to count me out.

Of course, the median Knoxville home value is around $200,000, or about half of that in LA. Sounds like pussy price parity is probably about right.

[QUOTE=Shyzai;4938346]How is this possible? 140 per meet? I live in Los Angeles, so my situation is different. If I ever suggested that to a potential SB, she would hire an assassin to end me. The cheapest I ever had was 200 and she complained bitterly till we stopped seeing each other. I haven't had another woman for less than 300, and 400 is the going rate now. You folks in other cities are living the life![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GaltGuy;4939373]Of course, the median Knoxville home value is around $200,000, or about half of that in LA. Sounds like pussy price parity is probably about right.[/QUOTE]Pussy Power Parity: I love it!

So here is INTERNATIONAL PUSSY POWER PARITY based on $200 per pop in Knoxville.

Methodology: take the Knoxville cost of living relative to the rest of the USA(85%) then multiply the result by the Purchasing Power Parity indices of different countries.

COST in USD:

Switzerland 350.

Norway 240.

Sweden 235.

Knoxville 200.

USA 230.

Brazil 205.

France 200.

Germany 190.

UK 180.

China 120.

India 100.

Malaysia 80.

[QUOTE=Scintillator;4939030]I am a little higher than those amounts but not much. Between $250 and $400 per week depending roughly on the frequency of meeting. My problem is getting rewarding LTRs as I find real NSA relationships more rewarding both sexually and otherwise. I have managed one for 10 years - (I married her (!) and was faithful to her) - and a couple lasting a month or two (up to 6 months). BTW being single I wouldn't do sugar dating at all if there were a non-sugar dating website where younger women and older men could get together. I find that on the sites like match dot com the ladies, although they can specify older men, rarely go over 10-15 years older than themselves and that tends to count me out.[/QUOTE]No if I wasn't married I wouldn't use the SA site either. In my line of work I work with so many younger professional women and get "chances" all the time to play. I never play with anyone that knows me personally or my S. O. To keep things as private as possible (SA has probably saved my marriage haha). Many women in the age range I like (typically 25-33) are just plain fed up with guys that mooch off of them and are basically still grown up children so the opportunities are out there for sure especially with professional younger women with goals but don't necessarily want a family right now. There are many on SA not just for the money, but for the connection without all the expectations of a real relationship and those are the types of girls I pursue. Not because I don't mind paying, but its the kind of relationship I desire. Looking at SA today I see a few that probably fit that mold and if I were currently looking I would probably want to meet and pursue. The nice thing is they are forever changing and new ones come in.

I would bet in LA there are many women like that but since its more acceptable in LA for younger women to date older men its easier to do in real life which leaves most gals on SA in LA to be in it just for the money which I am sure inflates pricing.

Been chatting with this one.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2b7d797e-50c1-4283-a832-b85096bb74de[/URL]

[QUOTE=Scintillator;4939578]Pussy Power Parity: I love it!

So here is INTERNATIONAL PUSSY POWER PARITY based on $200 per pop in Knoxville.

Methodology: take the Knoxville cost of living relative to the rest of the USA(85%) then multiply the result by the Purchasing Power Parity indices of different countries.

COST in USD:

Switzerland 350.

Norway 240.

Sweden 235.

Knoxville 200.

USA 230.

Brazil 205.

France 200.

Germany 190.

UK 180.

China 120.

India 100.

Malaysia 80.[/QUOTE]While this may work on paper, it's SO far off from what actual international pricing is.

This one is riding the STG and SA fence.

[URL]https://knoxville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/22knoxville-and-surrounding-ou/571807617631[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9da17b50-b72f-4721-a163-0dc4975364f9[/URL]

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;4937881]URL: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1e1f7a6b-b3d8-4256-9260-c23ce5c8fc0b[/URL].

SA handle: Sugluck7.

Previous handle (s): Sugary77777.

Notes: She's legit. A former dancer at a Knoxville-area all nude club. I've known her for several years and she's a sweet woman with a cheerful disposition. For those who contact her on SA, she'll mention that she caters to online relationships or lunch / dinner meetups so you'll need to wade through that. Being with men is not her preference, but she knows how the game works. She's on the curvy side, but has a really soft azz and an extremely pretty vagina. Profile pics are accurate and recent.

Happy hunting. ,. ,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]Has a second profile 7 lovely7. Quoted me 250 for meeting.

[QUOTE=Macintn;4940385]This one is riding the STG and SA fence.

[URL]https://knoxville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/22knoxville-and-surrounding-ou/571807617631[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9da17b50-b72f-4721-a163-0dc4975364f9[/URL][/QUOTE]All I know is I had a good time. Posted a review in the escorts section.

[QUOTE=DrJack51;4941297]Has a second profile 7 lovely7. Quoted me 250 for meeting.[/QUOTE]Quoted me 3 pm 2 weeks ago. Said no fun stuff on 1st meet. I said bye.

It makes you wonder a little when your porn feed and your SA feed match. What are the chances that millionaire Instagram model is looking for an arrangement?

[URL]https://thechive.com/2017/06/12/kendall-is-a-ball-of-cuteness-your-monday-needs-30-photos/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/024aeb89-8ba9-47af-89d5-ec0d356579ce[/URL]

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