"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Does anyone have any intel on Mel Mel Mel?

[QUOTE=BigOne73;4290529]You report escorts on SA? They're ALL escorts! What's the difference in her saying "400" upfront or 400 after flirting with you for a little while and pretending to like you? It's all the same! As soon as they get taken down by SA, they just put up another profile anyways. You're just making it harder for the rest of us because once she puts up the new profile, we all think she's new. Then we get stuck wasting our time meeting the same girls over and over again.[/QUOTE]The not-so-subtle difference we desire between them is that a "true" SB is somewhat of an amateur, preferably brand new to the scene, is choosy about the SD she decides upon and is about more than just the money. A really good actress can carry this off even if she does this full time and has a truckload of "SDs. " I don't mind a good actress. It's the illusion of relative innocence that entices. But a genuine great attitude is difficult to play-act. Looks are important but it's really the attitude that we are seeking: ideally a true GFE where the responsiveness is genuine. Demanding 400 up front stamps out this possibility pretty effectively.

Sugar sites have sadly become polluted with escorts and UTRs. If I wanted an escort or UTR there are far more efficient ways to find them than on a sugar site. One way I have discovered to find "true" SBs is to recruit them in the wild. This has its own set of problems but I have found it to be an exhilarating and extremely rewarding experience. Why doesn't everyone do this? It has a very high level of difficulty, demands an investment of time and patience and requires one to have game and be able to perfect it to a high art. I relish the challenge and enjoy the hunt as much as bagging the prize. One thing is for sure: in the end I definitely have a "true" SB.

[QUOTE=LikItFun;4289931]I forget if it was on this board or another one, but I saw a recommendation for the Call Her Daddy podcast. I've listened to a bunch of the episodes and the girls are effing hilarious!! And there's a lot of good intel there as well. Highly recommend. Likit.[/QUOTE]I posted it on 5/8, post #16541.

I agree, the Daddy Girls are a riot & there is some definite gold to be mined on their Podcasts.

Especially for us older Daddies, that may not know texting etiquette & using social media effectively.

A recent episode helped me to understand why my LTSB felt the need to completely severe all contact when it was time for us to end.

Really a must listen to!

Ok, so I normally don't have good luck on SA. However, this time around I got my money's worth. I am chatting it up with some women and these are clearly pros. Do any of you have intel on the ladies below. I am at the point where I am getting ready to meet them.

1. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/49ed09df-6616-4171-801f-71b30a9794d6[/URL].

So this girl is clearly ready to go to the FC. She is a stripper and probably a pro. Any intel would be greatly appreciated.

2. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e6efe062-bd71-432f-86f5-f5923716dfd1[/URL].

Ok the picture looks very familiar. I know she has been on the site for a while. I think I remember hearing some negative stuff about her. Can anyone confirm?

3. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9cdb3e7a-f22c-4b1d-bd1e-400f0a42e172[/URL].

So this is one I am going to meet this week. Again, I feel like I've seen her before and can't remember if she is on the up and up.

Be safe everyone.

This thread has gotten away from story time, so pardon me if I relate a SB success story. I have been on and off SA for about five years and have had lots of highs and lows. One of my first and favorite friends from the site was 19 and new when I met her. We were together on and off for over a year, then she got serious with a guy her age, got pregnant, moved in with him and we parted ways. We texted occasionally over a couple of years, just staying in touch, but she was trying to make a go of her IRL thing. A couple of days ago I heard from her and she told me that it was finally over. I was sympathetic and told her I would be glad to listen if she needed to talk. She asked when she could stop by and we agreed to meet. After we caught up and she told me the story she said " I came over for a reason-I haven't been with anyone else in two years". The sex was as good as it had been at the start. When we were done I asked her if this had been a bit of a revenge move and she smiled and said maybe a little. I had planned to give her the same allowance as before but that was not the mood, so as I walked her out, I hugged her and told her I would be here for her. I expect that we will pick things back up and I will be helping her out as she moves on. The point of the story is that, yes, at the end of the day, they take money for sex, but when you find a good one and there is a connection there is no comparison to these girls and a straight up escort.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4290928]The not-so-subtle difference we desire between them is that a "true" SB is somewhat of an amateur, preferably brand new to the scene, is choosy about the SD she decides upon and is about more than just the money. A really good actress can carry this off even if she does this full time and has a truckload of "SDs. " I don't mind a good actress. It's the illusion of relative innocence that entices. But a genuine great attitude is difficult to play-act. Looks are important but it's really the attitude that we are seeking: ideally a true GFE where the responsiveness is genuine. Demanding 400 up front stamps out this possibility pretty effectively.[/QUOTE]PTG summed it up nicely here. I don't agonize too much about who else the SB might have seen, I just like one who "feels" new to this. Of course, one of the ways to get that feeling is to find girls who "actually" are new to this. But it's not the only way.

Due to my family situation (married) and professional considerations, recruiting SB's IRL poses a lot of risks, so I focus on SA. One filtering mechanism I have mentioned before is to avoid if at all possible any discussion of price or services in advance. I have found that girls who will go to the FC with you without naming a price are very unlikely to be "pro's" and very likely to provide the kind of GFE+ that I crave.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;4291484]
2. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e6efe062-bd71-432f-86f5-f5923716dfd1[/URL].
Ok the picture looks very familiar. I know she has been on the site for a while. I think I remember hearing some negative stuff about her. Can anyone confirm?
[/QUOTE]This one is on my list and I've asked about her as well.

What is the negative stuff about her? The only one I know of was someone stating that she mentioned that her rates varied with desperation level of SD and another person stated that she said that as a joke.

Is there some other negative stuff about her?

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4292866]This one is on my list and I've asked about her as well.

What is the negative stuff about her? The only one I know of was someone stating that she mentioned that her rates varied with desperation level of SD and another person stated that she said that as a joke.

Is there some other negative stuff about her?[/QUOTE]She's nice and a good time, easy to talk to. Does not make it all about the money, I would repeat but still sampling others.

She is nice, good time, , okay with most everything.

[QUOTE=EasyeOne;4292931]She's nice and a good time, easy to talk to. Does not make it all about the money, I would repeat but still sampling others.[/QUOTE].

Apologies for the delay on reporting the results of my previous post regarding finding two 18 YO virgins ready to give it up. Both girls closed their SA accounts soon after I contacted them:

Girl #1: Just one month into being 18 (checked I'd). Pretty face and body of practicing gymnastics for over 10 years. Motivation of doing this was wanted to 'get it out of the way' so she wouldn't feel so self conscious about it in the fall when going to college.

Results: After two weeks of texting buildup (conflicting schedules) where she asked questions and detailed her concerns we planned to meet again. Unfortunately things went south as she changed her earlier position and now wanted to be taken out a few times platonically before our FC date. I've been asked that before and have been happy to meet for lunch with other SB's to get to know each other but this one wanted the platonic dates to be paid 2 $ and expected the FC dates to be double 4 $. This was after we previously discussed allowance where I made clear that I never pay more than 2 $ for ongoing FC meets. I don't blame her for wanting what she wants but it's definitely not worth it to me so we parted ways.

Girl #2: Four months into being 18 (checked I'd). 5'11 slender model body with long hair I couldn't believe she was a virgin. Motivation was also that she was the only virgin she knew and wanted someone experienced to show her the right way to do things before she did it with guys her own age.

Results: Also two weeks of texting and buildup and had another enjoyable platonic (unpaid) lunch date before our FC date. She was very nervous and did all sorts of research on STD's and pregnancy rates as she is very science oriented (this was understandable but still a hassle to make her not worry so much) so I had to show her the results of a recent STD test (for kissing and oral) and she still insisted on condoms. It took a while and a lot of foreplay but she was into it and ready to go. There was no allowance involved and it was LOTS of fun showing her the different positions and possibilities. Exactly the type of experience she wanted! We'll see where this goes as she does live a bit far and her allowance expectations when we get to that is too high for me but we agreed we would consider the arrangement a separate issue from her deflowering.

Results: I do believe they were both virgins and I was very lucky to be in the right place at the right time to have the opportunity. Definitely you can find anything on SA if you're patient and have the right approach. Close rate was 50%. Good luck this summer everyone.

Yaya.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;4291484]
3. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9cdb3e7a-f22c-4b1d-bd1e-400f0a42e172[/URL].

So this is one I am going to meet this week. Again, I feel like I've seen her before and can't remember if she is on the up and up.
[/QUOTE]I hit her up over the weekend, and only after we switched to text and she started saying things and revealing just how stupid she is that I realized this was the former Sarah Grace, discussed her before. Checked her FB page and found one of her profile photos.

She was outing SDs on facebook and otherwise in the past, and generally unstable and vindictive.

Run far, run fast.

[QUOTE=LikItFun;4289935]A couple questions about the inner workings of SA:

2. Premium accounts for SBs. I know that SBs can get a premium account if they use a. Edu email address. Can a SB pay for a premium account? What's the difference in the two "premium" icons in the photo? I think the star is an edu free SB, is the other one a paid Premium account?

Thanks!! Likit.[/QUOTE]My sense is if they signed up with a. Edu account, the mortarboard icon indicates that, and if they're premium status that's probably why. IIRC college students get 1 year free premium status. So they could be in college but not premium if they've been on a while. Otherwise they paid for premium.

Anyone had any pleasures or info, appreciate. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0a35ad6c-7ff8-4c89-9c3a-31f6a5980329[/URL].

Every now and then I find it very therapeutic to stop for a moment, take a breath, and reflect on this interesting hobby of ours.

I posted this recently in the special interests section as a reply to a post about this subject that I found to be very thoughtful. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4228-Sexual-Addiction-Reports&p=4294827#post4294827[/URL].

[QUOTE=BStreet;4294585]Anyone had any pleasures or info, appreciate. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0a35ad6c-7ff8-4c89-9c3a-31f6a5980329[/URL].[/QUOTE]Another time waster. Had a profile up last year that was different. Back then she wanted to sell pics and vids. I pushed for a dinner date and fun. She cancelled five minutes ahead of arriving. Her mom wouldn't let her leave the house. At that time she really wanted money for tattoos and was willing to go to the FC to get it. She annoyed me so much in wanting to see me another time that I never bothered to try to see her. She has Kik and will send tease pics. Seemed too immature and changed her story about being a college student. I did verify some things about her via Facebook. I expect by now she has learned from her rookie mistakes she made with me.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;4291484]Ok, so I normally don't have good luck on SA. However, this time around I got my money's worth. I am chatting it up with some women and these are clearly pros. Do any of you have intel on the ladies below. I am at the point where I am getting ready to meet them.

1. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/49ed09df-6616-4171-801f-71b30a9794d6[/URL].

So this girl is clearly ready to go to the FC. She is a stripper and probably a pro. Any intel would be greatly appreciated.

2. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e6efe062-bd71-432f-86f5-f5923716dfd1[/URL].

Ok the picture looks very familiar. I know she has been on the site for a while. I think I remember hearing some negative stuff about her. Can anyone confirm?

3. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9cdb3e7a-f22c-4b1d-bd1e-400f0a42e172[/URL].

So this is one I am going to meet this week. Again, I feel like I've seen her before and can't remember if she is on the up and up.

Be safe everyone.[/QUOTE]The first one I have seen one time several months ago may be in a year but very nice BBBJ and BBFS was really hot body except pretty much flat chest mo tits at all but nice girl damage was two bens.

Any info on this one [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/196501ac-15f4-4d74-b75f-e832f235c7fb[/URL].

Did some communication and texting sounded like ready for FC but somehow never met said not interested!!

Our local board has seen a surge of platonic profiles the last few days, is it same in other areas? Just wondering if SA got another BS article published somewhere about how girls get paid lavish sums to go to dinner and on trips and never do anything sexual.

I remember that snapchat article a while back, never seen so many new profiles, all bought into it, then 2 weeks later when they got a dose of reality about how it actually works, 99% of them were deleted.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;4296703]Our local board has seen a surge of platonic profiles the last few days, is it same in other areas? Just wondering if SA got another BS article published somewhere about how girls get paid lavish sums to go to dinner and on trips and never do anything sexual.

I remember that snapchat article a while back, never seen so many new profiles, all bought into it, then 2 weeks later when they got a dose of reality about how it actually works, 99% of them were deleted.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8d81da8e-77c1-4978-bac8-6d002dd6191f[/URL]

After messaging a bit she wants 500 to meet, 2000 to play. I told her best wishes.

[QUOTE=BagIt;4296711][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8d81da8e-77c1-4978-bac8-6d002dd6191f[/URL]

After messaging a bit she wants 500 to meet, 2000 to play. I told her best wishes.[/QUOTE]I want to live in her world. One where unicorns, fairies, and magic is all totally real.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;4291484]Ok, so I normally don't have good luck on SA. However, this time around I got my money's worth. I am chatting it up with some women and these are clearly pros. Do any of you have intel on the ladies below. I am at the point where I am getting ready to meet them.

1. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/49ed09df-6616-4171-801f-71b30a9794d6[/URL].

So this girl is clearly ready to go to the FC. She is a stripper and probably a pro. Any intel would be greatly appreciated.

2. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e6efe062-bd71-432f-86f5-f5923716dfd1[/URL].

Ok the picture looks very familiar. I know she has been on the site for a while. I think I remember hearing some negative stuff about her. Can anyone confirm?

3. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9cdb3e7a-f22c-4b1d-bd1e-400f0a42e172[/URL].

So this is one I am going to meet this week. Again, I feel like I've seen her before and can't remember if she is on the up and up.

Be safe everyone.[/QUOTE]Stay away from #3. She's fucking nuts, I know her outside of the SB world. Pm me if you need details.

Big thanks to all my brothers out there who helped with feedback.

I am staying away from two of the girls.

Has anyone seen a woman by the name Kelsey?

I think she Latíand. And works at a restaurant. She sounds like a pro.

I am not against pros but I like the true SB.

Be safe everyone.

Updated my profile to include:

If You think an arrangement involves nothing more than you practicing your conversational skills while someone twice your age imparts life lessons over a nice meal and covers your rent, you're not a sugarbaby, you're a niece. So delete your profile and go figure out which of your uncles likes you better than his own kids,.

Women over 27 or so find it funny, some of the youngen's want a debate!

From a profile near me:

I currently manage a hotel and go to college. I am studying to major in Forensic Anthropology and hoping to get my first apartment.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;4297778]Big thanks to all my brothers out there who helped with feedback.

I am staying away from two of the girls.

Has anyone seen a woman by the name Kelsey?

I think she Latand. And works at a restaurant. She sounds like a pro.

I am not against pros but I like the true SB.

Be safe everyone.[/QUOTE]I meant to say she is Latina.

Nice one. Does this help though?

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4298563]Updated my profile to include:

If You think an arrangement involves nothing more than you practicing your conversational skills while someone twice your age imparts life lessons over a nice meal and covers your rent, you're not a sugarbaby, you're a niece. So delete your profile and go figure out which of your uncles likes you better than his own kids,.

Women over 27 or so find it funny, some of the youngen's want a debate![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4298563]Updated my profile to include:

If You think an arrangement involves nothing more than you practicing your conversational skills while someone twice your age imparts life lessons over a nice meal and covers your rent, you're not a sugarbaby, you're a niece. So delete your profile and go figure out which of your uncles likes you better than his own kids,.

Women over 27 or so find it funny, some of the youngen's want a debate![/QUOTE]Classic! +1.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;4298601]I meant to say she is Latina.[/QUOTE]Post or PM me SA profile link.

Interesting strategy! LOL. I don't think it ever helps to put a negative comment like that I a profile.

When I see comment like "Don't messag me if you're a scammer", "Don't ask for my private photos if we haven't had a conversation", "don't waste my time", etc. Its a turn off for me. Makes it sound like they've had a lot of bad experiences, which is not a good way to appeal to someone.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4298563]Updated my profile to include:

If You think an arrangement involves nothing more than you practicing your conversational skills while someone twice your age imparts life lessons over a nice meal and covers your rent, you're not a sugarbaby, you're a niece. So delete your profile and go figure out which of your uncles likes you better than his own kids,.

Women over 27 or so find it funny, some of the youngen's want a debate![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;4300680]Interesting strategy! LOL. I don't think it ever helps to put a negative comment like that I a profile.

When I see comment like "Don't messag me if you're a scammer", "Don't ask for my private photos if we haven't had a conversation", "don't waste my time", etc. Its a turn off for me. Makes it sound like they've had a lot of bad experiences, which is not a good way to appeal to someone.[/QUOTE]I agree. A veteran out here on the west coast, Hollywood Guy, says that he avoids any profiles that have any negativity in them. It doesn't bode well to find the type of girl he is interested in, a true non-pro who is actually doing this for the first time. Obviously, lots of experience (bad) disqualifies them for that.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4301132]I agree. A veteran out here on the west coast, Hollywood Guy, says that he avoids any profiles that have any negativity in them. It doesn't bode well to find the type of girl he is interested in, a true non-pro who is actually doing this for the first time. Obviously, lots of experience (bad) disqualifies them for that.[/QUOTE]I think it's hilarious that you guys think the girls read profiles. If they're not reading the profiles of hot 22 yr olds on their traditional dating sites like Tinder and Hinge, then why would they read ours. Dating sites for anyone under 40, are "swiping" pictures only. Nobody reads profiles. It's almost 2020. I know that a lot of you guys have been married for a very long time, but you need to talk to your single friends about how dating sites work. Profiles are just for clever jokes in case the girl actually reads it. And the girls who actually read it are the lonely, fat, "undesirables."

Banging this, damn she is hot, but most likely GPS. Tried to make convo, never responds at least to me. Haha!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0abe39ed-9608-4643-bb79-b6a2dea815b3[/URL]

[QUOTE=BStreet;4303517]Banging this, damn she is hot, but most likely GPS. Tried to make convo, never responds at least to me. Haha!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0abe39ed-9608-4643-bb79-b6a2dea815b3[/URL][/QUOTE]Fake, fake fake fake.

[QUOTE=BigOne73;4302258]I think it's hilarious that you guys think the girls read profiles. If they're not reading the profiles of hot 22 yr olds on their traditional dating sites like Tinder and Hinge, then why would they read ours. Dating sites for anyone under 40, are "swiping" pictures only. Nobody reads profiles. It's almost 2020. I know that a lot of you guys have been married for a very long time, but you need to talk to your single friends about how dating sites work. Profiles are just for clever jokes in case the girl actually reads it. And the girls who actually read it are the lonely, fat, "undesirables."[/QUOTE]Exactly correct.

If you have a good pic and a catchy headline, you'll get a lot of attention on SA. Otherwise, anything you write in your profile is missed by most SBs.

No one on SA gives a * about your hobbies and interests.

SBs have only one interest, and that is cash. They don't give a crap that you ran a marathon twenty years ago, or that your daughter just graduated college.

Long time lurker but decided to try the SB world and to start contributing on here when I can.

Anyone have luck with this one beyond her wanting to sell pics? She had a different profile with a clean photo of her face back during the Christmas college break. Can't remember the name. She said she was open to meet once she got to know me.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/69ae7e5a-27ea-4ac8-a54e-1f0e566d7a5c[/URL]

This hasn't been my experience.

Initially they don't read profiles, but once engaged in a conversation many do. The type of SB I target typically would.

Any girl that clearly hasn't read my profile during our conversation is a NEXT for me. I have not problem keeping my plate full. LOL.

Escorts and UTRs are all about time and volume and almost never read profiles, so if that's your target you are correct.

[QUOTE=BigOne73;4302258]I think it's hilarious that you guys think the girls read profiles. If they're not reading the profiles of hot 22 yr olds on their traditional dating sites like Tinder and Hinge, then why would they read ours. Dating sites for anyone under 40, are "swiping" pictures only. Nobody reads profiles. It's almost 2020. I know that a lot of you guys have been married for a very long time, but you need to talk to your single friends about how dating sites work. Profiles are just for clever jokes in case the girl actually reads it. And the girls who actually read it are the lonely, fat, "undesirables."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Donethatonce;4304808]Long time lurker but decided to try the SB world and to start contributing on here when I can.

Anyone have luck with this one beyond her wanting to sell pics? She had a different profile with a clean photo of her face back during the Christmas college break. Can't remember the name. She said she was open to meet once she got to know me.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/69ae7e5a-27ea-4ac8-a54e-1f0e566d7a5c[/URL][/QUOTE]"got to know me" means that she will ghost you after you send her a bunch of money for pics.

There are 1,000 different ways girls (or guys pretending to be girls) string along guys on SA.

Never give a dollar until the FC has been entered.

The ones who want to sell pics are always scammers.

[QUOTE=Donethatonce;4304808]Long time lurker but decided to try the SB world and to start contributing on here when I can.

Anyone have luck with this one beyond her wanting to sell pics? She had a different profile with a clean photo of her face back during the Christmas college break. Can't remember the name. She said she was open to meet once she got to know me.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/69ae7e5a-27ea-4ac8-a54e-1f0e566d7a5c[/URL][/QUOTE]Online and in person casual / discreet. What she always tells me. But the conversation is always "I need money for bills, please help me!" she wants money upfront or money for pics before meeting but could never tell me when she would be available. Silent after declining her request and a few days later returning with the same. Please help me, I'll meet when I can. Stopped responding last week. Good luck!

Funny enough, I was writing the same thing when I saw your comment.

Escorts and UTRs don't read the profile.

SB do.

I got contacted by SBs at times based on my profile content.

So, it depends on what you are looking for.

Be safe.

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;4304924]This hasn't been my experience.

Initially they don't read profiles, but once engaged in a conversation many do. The type of SB I target typically would.

Any girl that clearly hasn't read my profile during our conversation is a NEXT for me. I have not problem keeping my plate full. LOL.

Escorts and UTRs are all about time and volume and almost never read profiles, so if that's your target you are correct.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Truncated;4304726]Exactly correct.

If you have a good pic and a catchy headline, you'll get a lot of attention on SA. Otherwise, anything you write in your profile is missed by most SBs.

No one on SA gives a * about your hobbies and interests.

SBs have only one interest, and that is cash. They don't give a crap that you ran a marathon twenty years ago, or that your daughter just graduated college.[/QUOTE]Can you cite some examples? Last year on SA, I spent four months sending out hundreds, maybe a thousand messages and got practically zero responses. I never even got to texting or M&G. Stumped and demoralized, I closed my account. I could use some pointers in case I decide to get back in, or at least understand what I was doing wrong.

[QUOTE=Assaholic;4305695]Can you cite some examples? Last year on SA, I spent four months sending out hundreds, maybe a thousand messages and got practically zero responses. I never even got to texting or M&G. Stumped and demoralized, I closed my account. I could use some pointers in case I decide to get back in, or at least understand what I was doing wrong.[/QUOTE]Tell them what they want to hear: That you are the answer to their money problems and the path to their goals and dreams. Not that directly, but more subtle. But whatever you do, don't waste your time or their time by being a BS artist. Many of these girls talk to each other. You don't want to get a rep as a time waster.

Use a good pic for your profile. I don't suggest using a full face pic of yourself. That will come back to bite you. Instead, use one of someone who looks like you, or one of you with your eyes covered. Give them an idea of what they will be fucking.

Pass on any girl who insists on more pics from you. Most likely, those requests come from scam artists or picky bitches.

Have a catchy headline. Something like: Looking for a Goal Digger. Get their attention and make them smile with the headline.

Join SA as a SB and look around at other profiles for ideas. There are some good ones out there.

In your profile, be direct and to the point. But do not mention money in the profile or messaging system. SA will ban you real fast.

Instead, get them off the site ASAP and onto text messaging. There you can discuss money, but not in great detail.

Use a burner phone. ATT charges $35/ month for a basic prepaid plan.

The goal is to get a meeting with them ASAP. See if they are real, and if they are into you. If they are, make an offer right then and there for whatever it is you are seeking. If you want her to wear a Lora Croft costume and peg you once a week, just say so. If you want a weekly BJ, just ask for it and offer her what you can REALLY AFFORD to pay.

Pick a first meeting location where you can control the situation. A coffee shop with only one entrance and a good view of that entrance from the parking lot. Arrive early and wait for her to go inside. Never go in until she arrives. Try to see if she shows up with someone else.

The unicorns are the ones who really intend to provide what you seek in return for cash, and who will do so on a regular basis. They are rare. Most unicorns are desperate single moms or college girls with big student loan debts. Your goal should be to find one of these, and keep them interested.

At the first meeting, talk about their favorite subject. Them. Ask questions that give you an idea of what's going on in their lives. Because they are on SA, it will be fucked up, but it all comes down to degrees of fucked up. Avoid the druggies and drunks. Look for the slightly-crazy ones who still have their shit together enough to pay their bills. But need your help doing it.

Don't promise more than you can really pay. If they accept, you're good. If not, no more time wasted.

Expect to be ghosted. 100% of my arrangements have ended in ghosting, either by me or them. That's 2019 for you.

Never advance a SB money. Never.