Possibly the Seeking site is picking up some referral code in the link too?
[QUOTE=FreudFro;7520791]I think either something changed here with the link display or it's browser based. I was having the same issue. Delete everything after the? In the URL.
For example, this: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/863cfa1a-bed2-48ec-86f1-f05c24dbcb16?_cf_ref=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudXNhc2V4Z3VpZGUubmwv[/URL].
Becomes this: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/863cfa1a-bed2-48ec-86f1-f05c24dbcb16[/URL].
Works for me.[/QUOTE]Even some of the links that I have posted show up as deactivated or blocked now. I use Chrome and just select open in a new window and it opens properly.
Perhaps Seeking is blocking traffic coming from this site? You web gurus would know more about that stuff than me though.
Jasmine- GPS and conceited
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/61acef9a-5490-4b08-b94c-91cb7b2e3ce7[/URL]
Very straight to the point via texting, she says if she intimate it's 1000 ppm. "She knows her worth" and She knows they'll be crawling back for more. We had a discussion about managing her expectations and hooker math is strong with her. She didn't comprehend that 4 guys at $500 ppm over 2 weeks is better than 1 guy at $1000 ppm over a month time span and she's willing to wait to find him. I wished her luck and when she needs to pay rent let me know. I got $400 if she hosts. LOL Then she tells me she's been a rub and tug girl for 3-4 years and that she charges $350 for 1/2 hour. I wished her continued good strokes LOL. Edit to add- She is Ukrainian, that makes her worth more in her opinion..
Lucy--yeah that one Lucy Lee
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9f2160b6-80fe-454f-971e-226cde5980c5[/URL]
Lucy Lee. We all know her as a pro recently retired again. Cut your own deal, I know what my rate is and was told it stays the same. Going to guess she's asking 500 at least. She's great and has been known to have a wide open menu for the right guys or on repeat visits.
Jer- time waster deposit scam
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/00c4d739-b66e-4054-9db6-79c3ede27357[/URL]
I'll see you tonight but my car payment is 2 months behind and they are going to repo it. (Yeah in 3 months).
How much is your payment to get it caught up baby, maybe we can get it caught up if you can spend the night ($565 per month).
Oh really, can you send it Apple Pay?
No, I can hand you cash.
CRICKETS MAKE MORE NOISE THAN SHE HAS SINCE.
Yeah that's a hooker not a SB LOL
[QUOTE=Airmantroy;7521251][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5ae42a79-3158-4152-8e38-164ca0b2cd05[/URL]
Was visiting till today, returms in March for a month. Wants $600 ppm / hr. Yeah she's not that good on her best day. Offered $300-350 she offered a 1/2 hr. Nope.[/QUOTE]I know you know this, just spelling it out for any newbies or lurkers in this thread: if an SB wants to tie her rate/allowance to any specific amount of time or service, that's not a SB, that's a hooker. If she wants to nickel and dime you for different types of service (HJ vs BJ or BJ vs FS) you're not talking to an SB. If she says it's X dollars for 1 hour but Y dollars for 2 hours or Z dollars for a half hour she's....say it with me....not a SB but a hooker.
Also the face tattoo is a dead giveaway she's escorted or at the very least been a stripper in the past.
Harley. Hoe - Bunny Ranch Girl
[URL]https://www.bunnyranch.com/harley-ryan/[/URL]
Bunny Ranch Girl.
[QUOTE=Airmantroy;7521251][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5ae42a79-3158-4152-8e38-164ca0b2cd05[/URL]
Was visiting till today, returms in March for a month. Wants $600 ppm / hr. Yeah she's not that good on her best day. Offered $300-350 she offered a 1/2 hr. Nope.[/QUOTE]
Xiomy did she look like her pics?
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/shushaxiomara/about[/URL]
What was her PPM?
TGTBT??
[QUOTE=FosterWheatly;7521446]Well I toftt.
Thought I had a helluva date right up til the very end. Went out for cocktails then the strip club but when we got to the room it went to shit. Gave her ppm and she shut down. Kicked her out at that point. It was truly a fun date up until the blue balls. Can't even call her a semi pro. Professional rinser yes.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/863cfa1a-bed2-48ec-86f1-f05c24dbcb16[/URL]
I've played this game a fair amount and didn't see this one coming.[/QUOTE]
This is strictly your opinion GFG.
[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;7521532]And what does being over 30 make her worth? Spoiler: less. SBs become worth less as they get older. When an over 30 asks for a ridiculous rate, I have on occassion replied back "oh, is the age on your profile incorrect?" They'll usually replied with a ? or just confused "huh?" and I'll respond "Oh, since you're asking for college girl rates, I thought you must be in your early 20s and just made a typo on your profile" Generally I don't throw this out there if I'm serious about landing her since I presume it'll resort in a block pretty quickly. Woman are incredibly sensitive about their age (why they tend to lie about it so much) so it does get through to them when you mention it. They may call you an asshole and block you, but I like to think they are a little more realistic with the next guy lol.[/QUOTE]All but a very few of my under 30 yr old SB encounters have been very underwhelming. Not all of them mind you. Where as my over 30 encounters have almost always been an incredible experience and almost always a repeat. This girl is delusional to think she can get 1 k ppm consistently based on 4 yrs of rub and tugs and a Ukrainian accent, and that's if she is even doing greek and BBFS, cip. Which I'm very doubtful is going to happen.
Age vs. Value is a subjective opinion
[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;7523268]I'm not saying there are no 35 year olds who are waaaay better in the sack than a 22 year old. But at the end of the day, the biggest factor in determining the value is looks. People can complain it's unfair, that they provide better service, that they are beautiful on the inside but none of that matters in this game. It's looks, and looks get worse with age, which means value goes down with age. Period.
Are there exceptions? Sure, there are some 40 year olds that look better than a lot of 20 year olds, but it's incredibly rare.
It's like cars: sure, there are a few, very limited number of "classics" which are worth the same or more than a new car. But 99% of the time the new car is worth more.
I have no idea if the 40 year old woman will fuck my brains out or be a dead fish, same as the 20 year old. Therefore I can't use how good they fuck to determine allowance value during initial negotiations. However, I can use their appearance.
Hell, when it comes to service, I've found age is less telling than their allowance ask. The more expensive they are, the more entitled they believe themselves to be, and the worse the sex often is. I've had great experiences with older and younger. I've never had a great experience from someone charging over 400.
Tl;dr stop paying middle aged woman the same as the co-eds. The expression "Men age like wine, woman age like beer" is said for a reason.[/QUOTE]I understand that YOU may like the 20 something college coeds, and they are fun, sometimes. The odds of them having GPS and entitled is very high. I don't hunt down just any 30+, I go for a very particular standard, in shape, well put together with a body some 20 something would envy. They aren't entitled as often (not always, I'll admit). They may have been burned by a guy or two and take a little extra finesing to woo them. But the outcome is generally they love sex and the dirtier the better. Now, if we are talking average kinda in shape mid 30's soccer mom. Yeah I'd say their ppm should be lower. But if she presents herself as the absolute best version of herself I'm perfectly willing to give her the same as a 23 yr old bikini model, and I'll have more fun for a longer period of time.
Now, I will admit I had a date last night with a 24 yr old that was absolutely the best I have had in the past six months. Super sweet girl (like almost too nice), great all natural body, would absolutely snap necks in the mall and she showed up dressed to fuck with zero prompting. Will I see her again? Already got it set for Tuesday or Wednesday according to her work schedule. Date length 2 hours. Ppm 400 and it will go down to 300.
By comparison, Friday I had a 5+ hour date with a 36 yr old, who is a retired pro that was like starring in an unscripted porno except nobody was acting, she's just that sexual. Same ppm.
Market price vs preference
[QUOTE=Marmong;7523930]That different guys like different things. It's not like cheesecake where everyone likes ny style fellas. Enjoy what you enjoy. I have banged multiple young's 20's and women in their early 40's, I am picking a 35 year old with a little cellulite, big ass that fucks like a champ than a 21 year old blonde that pretends like I should be grateful for letting me touch her.[/QUOTE]The main point I'm trying to make is simply that you shouldn't pay more than market price for a commodity, even if you prefer a specific type over another.
Maybe you like Kia more than Cadillac. That's cool, you do you. But you wouldn't pay Cadillac prices for a Kia even if you like Kia better. I apply the same principal here. Even if you prefer 35 year olds to 25 year olds, you shouldn't pay more than market price, and market price for older should always be lower than younger.
As someone else stated, women know this too. Hell, they may even know it better than we do since our culture puts a much higher value on youth and beauty for women for things more than sex. Look at actresses who have incredible careers in their 20's, then fall off a cliff and can barely find work once they hit over 30. Sure, some of them, the very best of them, the Scarlett Johannssens and the like continue to find success as they age, but there is a reason actresses complain about jobs vanishing once they get over 35. It's unfair, but it's reality.
Tl; dr Don't pay over market price just because you have preference. You should still be able to get your preference at market price.
Where can I find the listing for market price?
[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;7524171]The main point I'm trying to make is simply that you shouldn't pay more than market price for a commodity, even if you prefer a specific type over another.
Maybe you like Kia more than Cadillac. That's cool, you do you. But you wouldn't pay Cadillac prices for a Kia even if you like Kia better. I apply the same principal here. Even if you prefer 35 year olds to 25 year olds, you shouldn't pay more than market price, and market price for older should always be lower than younger.
As someone else stated, women know this too. Hell, they may even know it better than we do since our culture puts a much higher value on youth and beauty for women for things more than sex. Look at actresses who have incredible careers in their 20's, then fall off a cliff and can barely find work once they hit over 30. Sure, some of them, the very best of them, the Scarlett Johannssens and the like continue to find success as they age, but there is a reason actresses complain about jobs vanishing once they get over 35. It's unfair, but it's reality.
Tl; dr Don't pay over market price just because you have preference. You should still be able to get your preference at market price.[/QUOTE]You seem to think you are the one setting market price or something. That's simply not the case dude. We agree on a lot of things in this little bowl we dabble in, but the fact is the girls / women are the ones who say yes or no based on what they will accept. You haven't considered a few things that affect the "market price". Such as "fat tax", "ugly tax", "married tax", "hosting tax", "distance tax" or the decuctions from the "market" such as "looks like Brad Pitt deduction", "looks like George Clooney deduction", "lives in a penthouse suite in Buckhead deduction". Age is not the marker for a price judgement, it's our perception of sex appeal. Example- I'll gladly pay more for a brand named box of Kelloggs fruit loops over the no name less tasty store brand. Even though the basic ingredients are identical.