[QUOTE=Goser;2991255]Try this girl. You have to go to the mainland to see her. Her rate? $180.
Andrea. 27 years old, 5 feet 3 inched tall, and 115 pounds, 34 C.[/QUOTE]Are you sure? No upsell bs?
Where in mainland?
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[QUOTE=Goser;2991255]Try this girl. You have to go to the mainland to see her. Her rate? $180.
Andrea. 27 years old, 5 feet 3 inched tall, and 115 pounds, 34 C.[/QUOTE]Are you sure? No upsell bs?
Where in mainland?
Hi everyone.
I received a PM by this provider and could not find her ad in backpage or craigslist when I searched. When I ran a search on this website all I could find is that she had offered massage before. But is she an escort or massage therapist? What are her stats? She reached out to me about some survey but told me nothing about her looks. PM if you guys want, thanks.
[QUOTE=GoodTimeSoahu;2999895]Hi everyone.
I received a PM by this provider and could not find her ad in backpage or craigslist when I searched. When I ran a search on this website all I could find is that she had offered massage before. But is she an escort or massage therapist? What are her stats? She reached out to me about some survey but told me nothing about her looks. PM if you guys want, thanks.[/QUOTE]Honolulu Girl advertises on USA Adult Classifieds:
[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/-11/posts/2-Massages-Massage-Parlors/2-Massages-Massage-Parlors/18465-Honolulugirl-wants-to-stress-openmindedness.html[/URL]
She offers both massage and a full range of sexual services. Although personally I like her, her reviews on the forum have been mixed. She's a mature provider (in her forties), and her ethnic background is part black and part white.
She's posted many photos of herself on the forum, most before her new breasts but a few after.
Here are some of them:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=343194&d=1410903406[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=343196&d=1399977856[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=410149&d=1457722045[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=399506&d=1449030183[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=343566&d=1411135944[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=343195&d=1410178385[/URL]
[QUOTE=Redneck1;2999933]Honolulu Girl advertises on USA Adult Classifieds:
[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/-11/posts/2-Massages-Massage-Parlors/2-Massages-Massage-Parlors/18465-Honolulugirl-wants-to-stress-openmindedness.html[/URL]
She offers both massage and a full range of sexual services. Although personally I like her, her reviews on the forum have been mixed. She's a mature provider (in her forties), and her ethnic background is part black and part white.
She's posted many photos of herself on the forum, most before her new breasts but a few after.
Here are some of them:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=343194&d=1410903406[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=343196&d=1399977856[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=410149&d=1457722045[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=399506&d=1449030183[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=343566&d=1411135944[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=343195&d=1410178385[/URL][/QUOTE]I did a google search and still could not find what you have given. Much Mahalo Redneck.
[QUOTE=CosmicKid;2993764]Excuse my ignorance. I'm one of the mongers who is not in a relationship and I fail to understand why so many guys in relationships seek out working girls for sex. Is it because the guy is scared to ask his SO for the kind of sex acts he really wants but knows he can get from women in the AMPs, or because his SO isn't willing or interested in having as much sex as he is, or what?[/QUOTE]There are a number of reasons and they vary from one monger to another:
There are some men who can be in an exclusive relationship with a woman and she'll be enough for him. But, not every man is like that. Even married men may find themselves wanting something different than the usual thing they get at home, without having to get a divorce or breakup with the SO. They stay in the relationship, but get a little play on the side. They still love the SO and would never divorce her, but an exclusive relationship isn't something they can live with.
Other guys are in a marriage where the wife simply isn't interested in sex anymore or the sex isn't as great as it used to be. Rather than breakup, a guy will get his sexual fulfillment with a provider, but stay married.
Some guys are basically stuck in a loveless marriage, but divorce is out of the question because he could be financially ruined. Plus, being single again, especially for an older man, put you back out into the Singles Market, where pickings are slimmer for an older man than for younger ones. So, they stay in a loveless marriage to maintain their own financial well-being, but enjoy the hobby so they can get what they aren't getting at home anymore.
As I said, the reasons vary from one guy to the next. There are undoubtedly other potential reasons I haven't mentioned. But, those come to mind right away.
[QUOTE=Niceguy808;3002079]There are a number of reasons and they vary from one monger to another:
There are some men who can be in an exclusive relationship with a woman and she'll be enough for him. But, not every man is like that. Even married men may find themselves wanting something different than the usual thing they get at home, without having to get a divorce or breakup with the SO. They stay in the relationship, but get a little play on the side. They still love the SO and would never divorce her, but an exclusive relationship isn't something they can live with.
Other guys are in a marriage where the wife simply isn't interested in sex anymore or the sex isn't as great as it used to be. Rather than breakup, a guy will get his sexual fulfillment with a provider, but stay married.
Some guys are basically stuck in a loveless marriage, but divorce is out of the question because he could be financially ruined. Plus, being single again, especially for an older man, put you back out into the Singles Market, where pickings are slimmer for an older man than for younger ones. So, they stay in a loveless marriage to maintain their own financial well-being, but enjoy the hobby so they can get what they aren't getting at home anymore.
As I said, the reasons vary from one guy to the next. There are undoubtedly other potential reasons I haven't mentioned. But, those come to mind right away.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that, Niceguy. Seems as if you really tagged all the bases. Kind of a panoramic photo of that landscape. I see it more clearly now. One thing that occurs to me after reading what you said is, maybe one reason the Powers-That-Be in this town haven't pushed to enforce laws against prostitution and shut down the AMPs is because some of those guys use and need those services themselves, for the reasons you've articulated.
[QUOTE=Niceguy808;3002079]There are a number of reasons and they vary from one monger to another:
There are some men who can be in an exclusive relationship with a woman and she'll be enough for him. But, not every man is like that. Even married men may find themselves wanting something different than the usual thing they get at home, without having to get a divorce or breakup with the SO. They stay in the relationship, but get a little play on the side. They still love the SO and would never divorce her, but an exclusive relationship isn't something they can live with.
Other guys are in a marriage where the wife simply isn't interested in sex anymore or the sex isn't as great as it used to be. Rather than breakup, a guy will get his sexual fulfillment with a provider, but stay married.
Some guys are basically stuck in a loveless marriage, but divorce is out of the question because he could be financially ruined. Plus, being single again, especially for an older man, put you back out into the Singles Market, where pickings are slimmer for an older man than for younger ones. So, they stay in a loveless marriage to maintain their own financial well-being, but enjoy the hobby so they can get what they aren't getting at home anymore.
As I said, the reasons vary from one guy to the next. There are undoubtedly other potential reasons I haven't mentioned. But, those come to mind right away.[/QUOTE]Very well said.
Much has been said on this board concerning mongers who fall for providers, and what an excruciatingly painful mess that scenario can become for the unfortunate guy who has allowed himself to lose control of his feelings in this way. But what about the flip side of the provider-monger equation? Supposing a provider falls into infatuation for you? Has this ever happened to you personally or have you heard of it happening to another monger? How does a monger handle this situation if / when it happens? Yeah, as a general thing, most providers are professionals and have probably trained themselves to not become emotionally attached to their customers. And Yeah, what looks like a provider's emotional attachment to a monger is likely her working the angles to strengthen the guy's attachment to her so he will keep coming back and spending money on her. I don't fault any provider who does this either. She's in the biz to make a buck and it's a dog-eat-dog world where she's got to fend for herself and formulate the most effective strategies for her financial survival. But all that having been said, these women aren't super-human. They are subject to the same weaknesses we all are. I bring this topic up and ask this question of you guys because I've recently come to suspect this may be happening to me with a certain provider. I like this woman as a friend but feel zero infatuation for her. However, I'm getting the impression she has developed an emotional attachment to me and I don't what to cause pain for her.
[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3002381]I like this woman as a friend but feel zero infatuation for her. However, I'm getting the impression she has developed an emotional attachment to me and I don't what to cause pain for her.[/QUOTE]If she has developed an emotional attachment and you only see her as a "friend", then you are obligated to make that a fact in front of her and stop playing around with her feelings, she is human. You are just using and abusing her if you already know she has "feelings" for you and should break it off to prevent any more damage.
Only a less of a man will take advantage of that and string it along inspite of her involvement in this business, unless you're a politician, then its understandable.
[QUOTE=Niceguy808;3002079]There are a number of reasons and they vary from one monger to another:
There are some men who can be in an exclusive relationship with a woman and she'll be enough for him. But, not every man is like that. Even married men may find themselves wanting something different than the usual thing they get at home, without having to get a divorce or breakup with the SO. They stay in the relationship, but get a little play on the side. They still love the SO and would never divorce her, but an exclusive relationship isn't something they can live with.
Other guys are in a marriage where the wife simply isn't interested in sex anymore or the sex isn't as great as it used to be. Rather than breakup, a guy will get his sexual fulfillment with a provider, but stay married.
Some guys are basically stuck in a loveless marriage, but divorce is out of the question because he could be financially ruined. Plus, being single again, especially for an older man, put you back out into the Singles Market, where pickings are slimmer for an older man than for younger ones. So, they stay in a loveless marriage to maintain their own financial well-being, but enjoy the hobby so they can get what they aren't getting at home anymore.
As I said, the reasons vary from one guy to the next. There are undoubtedly other potential reasons I haven't mentioned. But, those come to mind right away.[/QUOTE]I want to save this explanation for why a guy in a long term relationship could still need to go elsewhere to get his physical or psychological needs met. I'm a bachelor for now, but this resonates and lines up with some of the stories providers have told me about their many married customers.
I used to think it was crazy that so many guys in relationships were out getting play. But I guess lots of guys are in a position where the SO simply doesn't want sex anywhere close to what the human male is physically wired to desire.
[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3002381]Supposing a provider falls into infatuation for you? Has this ever happened to you personally or have you heard of it happening to another monger? How does a monger handle this situation if / when it happens?.[/QUOTE]While I can't say she was "in love" with me, somehow, my screen name alias leaked out.
Every visit to that establishment thereafter, there was "talk" about my reports on providers. Talk about a messed up situation. A lot of the words used weren't very nice and totally blown out of proportion. Thankfully, years later, said providers are no longer there, even though I haven't stepped foot in there for a long time either. Damn shame. I enjoyed that place.
Fight club rules.
H.
[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3002381]Supposing a provider falls into infatuation for you? Has this ever happened to you personally or have you heard of it happening to another monger? How does a monger handle this situation if / when it happens? Yeah, as a general thing, most providers are professionals and have probably trained themselves to not become emotionally attached to their customers. And Yeah, what looks like a provider's emotional attachment to a monger is likely her working the angles to strengthen the guy's attachment to her so he will keep coming back and spending money on her. I don't fault any provider who does this either. [/QUOTE]I once had an atf, and no doubt her name was on here several several years ago, anyway we clicked first time we met, over next few times small talk about where she goes on break back in LA, eventually she was allowing me multiple pops and who was I to complain. So sad day happens when she of course goes on one of her trips and I visit the place to see who was there, and there was this younger tight body looking version of her, mediocre service. Basically she tried and made fake scripted nice nice. But my jaw dropped notheless banging a body with a 10 easily early-mid 20's k-girl, so following week she disappears and my atf shows up, and I made the mistake of saying whom I saw and she just slumped to the floor sliding her back as she just sat staring, oh fuck!. Anyway total look like she was punched-in the gut feel, asked some questions. Made me feel either I did someone she did not like or obviously she knew because damn several minutes went by, then we went at it. Almost knowingly she was trying to get over it somewhat pretending I suppose. Following month left for good to the mainland. Different state. I don't think it was me, there was something else that was going on so it made a convenient excuse to leave hawaii at that time. But yeah that sucks though knowing I had a fav provider going the extra extra mile for me, all providers tend to say the same lines, but better to keep it at side gig.
[QUOTE=Johnny14;3002415]If she has developed an emotional attachment and you only see her as a "friend", then you are obligated to make that a fact in front of her and stop playing around with her feelings, she is human. You are just using and abusing her if you already know she has "feelings" for you and should break it off to prevent any more damage.
Only a less of a man will take advantage of that and string it along inspite of her involvement in this business, unless you're a politician, then its understandable.[/QUOTE]Mr. 14, I'm only in partial agreement with you. If this was an intimate relationship with a civilian chick in the outside world, then yeah, your perspective and advice would be applicable. But in an AMP with a pro, hey, I've got a right to just be who I am and do what I do, no explanations required or expected. However, at the same time, you got me thinking about the idea of bringing this situation out into the open with her, probably better for both of us if I do this, hopefully clear the air with her, so, like, thanks for the suggestion, I probably will follow up on it.
Whats up guys. I just moved from Maui and this is my very first post. I read this forum all the time and just love it. Now I'm here and I hope to be a contributor to this also. The botomoco is on search mode now. LOL.
[QUOTE=CM0069;2995430]There's always strings attach. That's why I sometimes play the notion I'm just an average guy trying to make ends meet, and if the girl is turned off by that so be it, but ones that stick to for who you are those are real confidants, besides it does make it easier to sometimes not show up so they figure you are just hard up on cash when in actuality you just took her out of the rotation. Hehe.[/QUOTE]Actually there isn't always a string attached.
It all comes off as how you come off.
I'm sure if you go bragging like you're the shit and loaded, the girl is going to expect that.
I have had a couple providers fall in love with me and I in no way have a lot of money or act like I do.
I am kinda younger and I guess treat them nice.
The providers that "loved" me were all very very popular on the board here.
Many peoples atf, I know I might sound like I'm bullshitting but whatever's.
The first one happened about 10 years ago.
I think she was the first one that let me bbfscip that didn't work at Kison or chm.
After my first couple visits, we went out on a date and she slept over.
After that, every time I visited her she would never charge me.
I didn't think anything of it, just that she liked me and let me fuck for free.
One time she was feeling sick and I came to visit her work place and tried to fuck her while she wasn't feeling good. LOL, after that if was over and never saw heard or saw her for a while.
Ran into her a few years after and she told me she was in love with me that time. I was like WTF?!
I was really young back then so never gave it much thought.
My recent ones I won't go into much detail, but believe me just because they are working girl doesn't mean they are all the same.
Some of them are good people. But the one thing I found surprising amongst these girls are the level of insecurity and jealousy they have. You would assume with so many guys in love with them and what they do for work they would be more understanding but I think because of how many of their customers are married / in relationships that they fear being cheated on after giving their love to someone very badly.
Sometimes I feel like I'm living the life with them, sometimes I'm asking myself "how did I get myself into this" (both good and bad).