"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Dangerb;4239126]I have been a member off and on for years, always paying full price except for once when they offered a Halloween discount if I remember correctly. I have read on occasion about a weekly rate offered by SA. I have never seen this on the site or on the app. When I downloaded the app last week, the current monthly rate of $89 was the only option other than the 3 month option. So is there a weekly rate option and if so, where do I find it? Thanks.[/QUOTE]The monger Sandpiper540 mentions a 1 week membership to SA.

[QUOTE=BagIt;4239283]The monger Sandpiper540 mentions a 1 week membership to SA.[/QUOTE]A while back before SA was removed from the iTunes store, I was able to buy an iTunes card, sign up with a fake iTunes account and bought a 1 week membership for $27. If I remember right, I was able to log in with the membership to my regular SA account using the trial membership. ITunes was just the conduit to get the trial. Unfortunately, this cannot be done as the app is gone. Not sure if the same thing would work with a googleplay account.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;4234202] I always do M&G's but similar philosophy on dinner for several reasons. There's the expense, hate spending 100 on dinner and over an hour with them when I often realize as soon as I sit down I'm not interested, and it's true some of them are torture to talk to so you have to make small talk longer. Many I've met are fun to talk to and interesting, especially when I'm in pursuit, but you never know for sure until you get there. Drinks, coffee, maybe an appetizer at a casual cafe, that's the way to do this. Keep the commitment of both time and money minimal upfront, you can always ramp it up.[/QUOTE]Dinner? These girls don't want to sit through dinner unless you're going to pay them to eat. They're either on that site because they need drug money, or they're on the site because they're addicted to FAST MONEY. Give them the choice between dinner and sex or going straight to the FC and they will pick going straight to the FC every time.

Don't know if this profile has been taken down or I have been blocked.

This is a time waster and a flake.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/54538dee-788c-4d84-90e7-d2154b9682a8[/URL]

Could be a SA hired and maintained profile to jerk us off.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4241282]Don't know if this profile has been taken down or I have been blocked.

This is a time waster and a flake.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/54538dee-788c-4d84-90e7-d2154b9682a8[/URL]

Could be a SA hired and maintained profile to jerk us off.[/QUOTE]Profile still up for me, so I guess you've been blocked.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4241282]Don't know if this profile has been taken down or I have been blocked.

This is a time waster and a flake.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/54538dee-788c-4d84-90e7-d2154b9682a8[/URL]

Could be a SA hired and maintained profile to jerk us off.[/QUOTE]Yes you're blocked and yes she's a time waster. I'm assuming she stood you up? That's what she did to me. Kept saying she was on her way and I never saw her.

[QUOTE=GeechieDan;4241318]Yes you're blocked and yes she's a time waster. I'm assuming she stood you up? That's what she did to me. Kept saying she was on her way and I never saw her.[/QUOTE]I think I blocked her and that's why I cannot see her profile and seems that one cannot unblock a profile.

As soon as she made the first excuse, I stopped 15 min into commute, went and had coffee while she texted a slew of excuses. Told her I'l wait for hours and hours in the parking lot and it still didn't dawn on her that I might be playing her as well.

No way I was going to make the commute to see her. I came back and she was still making excuses. I saw another SB and finally blocked her number and her profile. Completely forgot that I'd blocked her profile as well.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4241282]

Could be a SA hired and maintained profile to jerk us off.[/QUOTE]I doubt they would fake a 35 yo.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4241282]Don't know if this profile has been taken down or I have been blocked.

This is a time waster and a flake.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/54538dee-788c-4d84-90e7-d2154b9682a8[/URL]

Could be a SA hired and maintained profile to jerk us off.[/QUOTE]Last fall she texted every day for a week wanting me to come to her place off of Hull st near 295. Every day I would text back that I could not leave my office. I blocked her.

[QUOTE=JustLonely;4241598]Last fall she texted every day for a week wanting me to come to her place off of Hull st near 295. Every day I would text back that I could not leave my office. I blocked her.[/QUOTE]Our negative experiences so that others avoid such time-wasters.

There aren't that many in Richmond on the site. I'm sure we're all messaging the same ones. Let's share info.

Pic seller. Online / text only. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d47b62a1-83a4-4ee0-b285-1e69fc9790a7[/URL].

Meet and greet only. Takes your cash and then ghosts you: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4a4a61fc-8930-4327-adaf-c38b58f62005[/URL].

Not sure about this one. We were texting a bit and then she just blocked me. Didn't say anything graphic. Just chatting about art and game of thrones. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/de446f8d-9954-4fd5-915c-89c7595a8860[/URL].

Horrible mic skills and can't math. Just an overall poor experience. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ab538d4a-a29c-44d5-9845-d28b40617c76[/URL].

Has anyone met up with this one? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/445371a5-fac1-4de6-b208-e151df05254e[/URL].

Seems down for almost everything but haven't been able to meet.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4244845]Our negative experiences so that others avoid such time-wasters.[/QUOTE]Most of my negatives are no shows for dinners. Last one cost me $6 bucks to park in Shockoe Bottom and put up with 530 pm traffic.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1d4830a6-01b1-4667-9c8c-822e8a697a5f[/URL]

[QUOTE=WaterBoi;4244867]
Not sure about this one. We were texting a bit and then she just blocked me. Didn't say anything graphic. Just chatting about art and game of thrones. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/de446f8d-9954-4fd5-915c-89c7595a8860[/URL].
[/QUOTE]Profile is gone, probably just deleted.

[QUOTE=Hal1957;4239255]Read everything you can, experiment, and refine your approach. Use and change your Google Voice or other burner number. Never use the same profile pic twice. And move the conversation off the site as soon as possible. All good rules to live by.[/QUOTE]The biggest mistake I ever made was changing my profile. I am now stuck going to meet and greet after meet and greet with the same old girls. It's just caused me a lot of headaches and wound up costing me a lot of time and money. I also have to deal with a bunch of irritate girls who think I scammed them. It's not like there's really new girls on there every day. There aren't a bunch of girls in Richmond Va standing in line to exchange their time for money. It's just the same girls over and over again. I also lost all of the girls that I had previously blocked, so it was a really horrible idea. I should have just kept my old one and then I would know who's really who on there.

[QUOTE=BigOne73;4240930]They're either on that site because they need drug money, or they're on the site because they're addicted to FAST MONEY. Give them the choice between dinner and sex or going straight to the FC and they will pick going straight to the FC every time.[/QUOTE]You and I are definitely not meeting the same girls.

[QUOTE=BigOne73;4245640]The biggest mistake I ever made was changing my profile. I am now stuck going to meet and greet after meet and greet with the same old girls. It's just caused me a lot of headaches and wound up costing me a lot of time and money. I also have to deal with a bunch of irritate girls who think I scammed them. It's not like there's really new girls on there every day. There aren't a bunch of girls in Richmond Va standing in line to exchange their time for money. It's just the same girls over and over again. I also lost all of the girls that I had previously blocked, so it was a really horrible idea. I should have just kept my old one and then I would know who's really who on there.[/QUOTE]It can work both ways. I had one situation where the girl went all bitchy over something small and blocked me. A year later I contacted her under another profile. Sent real pics both times and she didn't remember her tantrum the year before (or at least neither of us ever mentioned it), ended up with a nice little short-term arrangement.

Just saw a profile with this paragraph in it:

[QUOTE]
Since I'm seeing a lot of disrespectful men, Do NOT message me if all you are looking for is nsa fun. No girl would hook up with an older man for fun. I'm looking for a REAL arrangement. To all the fake sds on here, you're cancelled.
[/QUOTE]I couldn't help but laugh when I saw that, especially since I just got back from another meeting with a fun young college senior who particularly enjoys grinding her pussy on me before we fuck Also cuddles pretty nice afterwards, too.

Anyone have any information on SweetBlondeSub 00 posting on SA?

[QUOTE=BigOne73;4245640]The biggest mistake I ever made was changing my profile. I am now stuck going to meet and greet after meet and greet with the same old girls. It's just caused me a lot of headaches and wound up costing me a lot of time and money. I also have to deal with a bunch of irritate girls who think I scammed them. It's not like there's really new girls on there every day. There aren't a bunch of girls in Richmond Va standing in line to exchange their time for money. It's just the same girls over and over again. I also lost all of the girls that I had previously blocked, so it was a really horrible idea. I should have just kept my old one and then I would know who's really who on there.[/QUOTE]My experience has been the exact opposite but I'm also pretty good with faces (names, not so much). I'm not sure what you're looking for but theres really a new batch of SBs in Richmond every 3-4 months. Once a semester ends and begins theres a solid rotation of newbies. Also, I delete my profile every 6-8 months and start fresh.

[QUOTE=Zcochran00;4246809]Just saw a profile with this paragraph in it:

I couldn't help but laugh when I saw that, especially since I just got back from another meeting with a fun young college senior who particularly enjoys grinding her pussy on me before we fuck Also cuddles pretty nice afterwards, too.[/QUOTE]That is funny! Most of my FC fun over the last year has been with 18-22 college gals. I'm over 60 and not paying them the crazy amounts some want. I treat them with respect upfront but let them know I expect be intimate if they want some funds for tuition or books. More than one has said that seeing me was a lot more fun than they thought hanging out with an older guy would be. Like JeezLizard has said in the past, stay in shape. The last thing you want to look like is their Dads with beer bellies. Nothing like a petite coed doing reverse cowgirl on me for her first time in that position. Makes both my heads swell with pleasure!

Weeding through all the platonic newbies has become a chore but finding one that wants to please makes it worth it. Actually the older ones flake on m&g more than the new ones I contact.

[QUOTE=Zcochran00;4246809]Just saw a profile with this paragraph in it:

I couldn't help but laugh when I saw that, especially since I just got back from another meeting with a fun young college senior who particularly enjoys grinding her pussy on me before we fuck Also cuddles pretty nice afterwards, too.[/QUOTE]Some of them are so far off from the reality of the site. They think we are attached to them when we can just move on to the next one. Care to share the profile name of the young college senior?

[QUOTE=BookerTNelson;4247048]My experience has been the exact opposite but I'm also pretty good with faces (names, not so much). I'm not sure what you're looking for but theres really a new batch of SBs in Richmond every 3-4 months. Once a semester ends and begins theres a solid rotation of newbies. Also, I delete my profile every 6-8 months and start fresh.[/QUOTE]Do you delete it or change your profile name? I just changed my profile name but am considering creating a new profile. I guess I lose all my blocks and messages though if I do it that way. The site is blowing up with new girls now that school is winding up.

[QUOTE=JustLonely;4245555]Most of my negatives are no shows for dinners. Last one cost me $6 bucks to park in Shockoe Bottom and put up with 530 pm traffic.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1d4830a6-01b1-4667-9c8c-822e8a697a5f[/URL][/QUOTE]I personally avoid dinner dates like the plague. Every single positive that can come from a dinner meet can come for an invite to get a drink, or a coffee. Less obligation, less pressure, more casual and relaxed without a waiter popping over every 5 minutes to refill the water when you're in the middle of talking about allowances or sexual preferences, less expense. If you're both really enjoying the conversation (often the exception not the norm) then just extend the date and order some food. My proposal is always drinks (coffee if not 21), and I think it's actually a red flag when the girl pushes for dinner.

[QUOTE=JustLonely;4241598]Last fall she texted every day for a week wanting me to come to her place off of Hull st near 295. Every day I would text back that I could not leave my office. I blocked her.[/QUOTE]Found her on tinder with no mention of sugar in our conversation. Claimed to be new in town. SA profile says otherwise. Set up a couple of meet and greets always some crisis that kept her from making it. Seems like a dead fish from our conversation.

[QUOTE=RappaHannock;4247024]Anyone have any information on SweetBlondeSub 00 posting on SA?[/QUOTE]I'm texting with her. Her profile just changed to show her city as Charlotte. I'm not sure what to think about her at this point.

If this is on the level, it's amazing:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c8b5c5cb-7495-474e-8859-6d8121cab164[/URL]

[QUOTE=RVASpider;4247288]I'm texting with her. Her profile just changed to show her city as Charlotte. I'm not sure what to think about her at this point.[/QUOTE]That's always a red flag. I've noticed a few lately that change from my city to another, and then another even in same day. When they show up as in my city, I've gotten messages back from them that usually say something like "I'm actually in Minnesota" or the like. At that point I'm done but often the city keeps changing. They're trolling for suckers for some kind of online scam, travel money or selling pics or something like that. Pros will also do that to set up a bunch of dates in a city they go visit for a few days. But the only legit reason for a true SB to change cities is going on a trip or moving.

[QUOTE=RVASpider;4247125]Do you delete it or change your profile name? I just changed my profile name but am considering creating a new profile. I guess I lose all my blocks and messages though if I do it that way. The site is blowing up with new girls now that school is winding up.[/QUOTE]Completely delete.

[QUOTE=Cabsauv1997;4247312]If this is on the level, it's amazing:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c8b5c5cb-7495-474e-8859-6d8121cab164[/URL][/QUOTE]That profile is a scam.

Notice how she conveniently won't be available until fall? How unlucky that you found her just at the end of the school year.

She will promise to do all that kinky stuff with you this fall. In the meantime, she'll need a summer's worth of money PayPal'ed to her.

No 20 year old writes like this: "Daddy will meet me once or twice a month; use and abuse me fiercely, and send me home quivering and whimpering from pleasure and exhaustion. ".

She found SA a little too late in the year. 2017, two years ago. She's been perfecting the pitch ever since then. Would love to see a first hand account.

[QUOTE=Cabsauv1997;4247312]If this is on the level, it's amazing:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c8b5c5cb-7495-474e-8859-6d8121cab164[/URL][/QUOTE]

Anyone seen her. Seems like a pro.

Tiffany - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e52cb302-c1b2-4226-8be6-9a3c2e8be42b[/URL].

Thanks,

Respond to PMs, give out phone numbers etc.

But when you check their profile, it indicates that they have not seen your profile.

Is that normal or should I ignore those SBs since this could indicate that they are flakes.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4250159]Respond to PMs, give out phone numbers etc.

But when you check their profile, it indicates that they have not seen your profile.

Is that normal or should I ignore those SBs since this could indicate that they are flakes.[/QUOTE]Totally normal, these girls, at least the younger hot ones, get 100's of messages a day. They often spend most of the time clearing out their inbox. If they read your PM but don't click through to your profile it won't show.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4250002]Anyone seen her. Seems like a pro.

Tiffany - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e52cb302-c1b2-4226-8be6-9a3c2e8be42b[/URL].

Thanks,[/QUOTE]She sent me a Hello out of the blue. I did not found her pictures attractive. Needs some eyebrows. Like so many women do me, I ignored her message.

[QUOTE=JustLonely;4250223]She sent me a Hello out of the blue. I did not found her pictures attractive. Needs some eyebrows. Like so many women do me, I ignored her message.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what she did to me. She reached out and for some reason her pics looked familiar.

[QUOTE=Truncated;4249290]That profile is a scam.[/QUOTE]Oh, I'm sure you're right, but man, on some level you kind of have to admire the artistry there.

I checked the site and after clicking on a profile, noticed that I had sent a message that I did not send:

"You caught my attention. Are you interested in an arrangement. ".

And there was a response!

"Yes I am thank you for looking at my profile. ".

This was the exact same 2 messages for 3 different persons!

[QUOTE=WaterBoi;4244867]There aren't that many in Richmond on the site. I'm sure we're all messaging the same ones. Let's share info.

Pic seller. Online / text only. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d47b62a1-83a4-4ee0-b285-1e69fc9790a7[/URL].

Meet and greet only. Takes your cash and then ghosts you: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4a4a61fc-8930-4327-adaf-c38b58f62005[/URL].

Not sure about this one. We were texting a bit and then she just blocked me. Didn't say anything graphic. Just chatting about art and game of thrones. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/de446f8d-9954-4fd5-915c-89c7595a8860[/URL].

Horrible mic skills and can't math. Just an overall poor experience. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ab538d4a-a29c-44d5-9845-d28b40617c76[/URL].

Has anyone met up with this one? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/445371a5-fac1-4de6-b208-e151df05254e[/URL].

Seems down for almost everything but haven't been able to meet.[/QUOTE]Never met up with her since I did not agree to pay for a M&G, but she offered pics / videos. Her reddit profile is more honest, online only and you can buy her panties: [URL]https://i.redd.it/zbfgzgqab4s21.jpg[/URL] or [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/usedpanties/comments/bcwtbn/20_year_old_female_selling_panties_i_have_all/[/URL].

Neither are new members and have been on the site for a while. I had great conversations with both by text, got pics that seemed to be real, and set up specific days to meet. The day of the meetings for both of them they go silent and I haven't heard from them since. Anyone else have similar experiences or actually get to meet them?

Gents. ,

I will be in your town this week and will have an entire day off to explore. Will try to dabble in the sugar bowl (entire day date with adventures, exploring, dinners, food, etc.) but if that falls thru, do you recommend a massage parlor? Looking for a legit 60-90 minute massage with an unrushed HE. Or if I do find a SB, a massage parlor that will do a couple's massage, erotic style? Think 60-90 minute, one provider that does massage on both, while me and SB massage one another's private parts. No erotic participation by provider, just massage and willing to be creative while me and SB work out the real kinks.