The more they tax, regulate, censor, villify, etc. The more dark and less transparent it gets. Everyone will be worse off. Women won't be able to feed their kids. There will be more robberies. But something will fill the void and it won't take long.
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The more they tax, regulate, censor, villify, etc. The more dark and less transparent it gets. Everyone will be worse off. Women won't be able to feed their kids. There will be more robberies. But something will fill the void and it won't take long.
Looks like the adds are moving to W4M.
A good price, and if you like really tiny girls. Erica's a pretty good deal. Everything was covered, and man did she get into it! A bit of a talker, but once it's in her mouth or elsewhere, it's game on.
[URL]http://www.************.com/chicago/classifieds/ad/587417925078267qYOkex2HtOps7RqmN_4XPEYxeXbYwfwMd6P/[/URL]
A provider put her ad in the massage section.
[QUOTE=Riina;3224419]Looks like the adds are moving to W4M.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Riina;3224419]Looks like the adds are moving to W4M.[/QUOTE]Track someone that travels but mostly on the east coast and she usually shows up in "body rubs" and "domination" so I will have to start looking at w4 m as well. Opinion from you guys. Any ideas on where the providers will go to do free or next to free advertising? I just found out about this so I will rtff as well.
[QUOTE=MrLunta;3223725]The EB site was just scraping the ads off of BP. The only content that it was collecting is the reviews. I can only imagine how hard those servers are getting hit tonight with everyone grabbing the numbers of the providers they wanted to see.
Lunta.[/QUOTE]Yes I have seen that as well. When I would do a nationwide BP search for some one they would come up in several sites that were just copy / pasting the BP info onto their site. Pix as well. Which makes me think do these other sites have the ability to go off on their own or will they die as well. I would think they are going south as if they had the funds or the desire to really do a site where providers would list their info they would already being doing it.
So I have a dream with Linda yesterday, she is much older then the picture was showing but I have a really good time with her, she was taking her time on me. I would repeat.
[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;3224543]Yes I have seen that as well. When I would do a nationwide BP search for some one they would come up in several sites that were just copy / pasting the BP info onto their site. Pix as well. Which makes me think do these other sites have the ability to go off on their own or will they die as well. I would think they are going south as if they had the funds or the desire to really do a site where providers would list their info they would already being doing it.[/QUOTE]EB was mentioned in previous stories about BP and court documents as being linked to BP in numerous ways. And that the ceo of BP was transferring the ads on BP there and had a stake in it somehow. If you notice there is NO way for someone to purchase an ad space on EB it is is all aggregate information directly on BP, no other sites info is there nor are there ANY reviews from Non BP people.
A year and half ago when they busted all the thai places in Seattle all of a sudden there were no more asian girls listed on Eros who usually had 40 or so ads but then to dropped to 3. That's because Eros would accept any form of I'd other than a US STATE issued I'd to place an ad. That was because they wanted to distance themselves from ANY thought of trafficking.
I'm guessing the CEO to get prosecution dropped made a deal under the table to cut off ads.
[QUOTE=RodBrass;3224682]EB was mentioned in previous stories about BP and court documents as being linked to BP in numerous ways. And that the ceo of BP was transferring the ads on BP there and had a stake in it somehow. If you notice there is NO way for someone to purchase an ad space on EB it is is all aggregate information directly on BP, no other sites info is there nor are there ANY reviews from Non BP people.
A year and half ago when they busted all the thai places in Seattle all of a sudden there were no more asian girls listed on Eros who usually had 40 or so ads but then to dropped to 3. That's because Eros would accept any form of I'd other than a US STATE issued I'd to place an ad. That was because they wanted to distance themselves from ANY thought of trafficking.
I'm guessing the CEO to get prosecution dropped made a deal under the table to cut off ads.[/QUOTE]I also just noticed that what is called "city papers" or something similar in pittsburgh at least has the exact censored indications ala BP so it looks like these copycats are just copies of what is posted on BP. Once guys start to see a migration site please mention it. Eros was mentioned in a post, however from my experience I do know that girls that used to do eros w / pro pix, etc and their own website links, once they moved down the food chain of business they went to BP for the cheap or free ads.
[QUOTE=Lemeduyu;3224417]The more they tax, regulate, censor, villify, etc. The more dark and less transparent it gets. Everyone will be worse off. Women won't be able to feed their kids. There will be more robberies. But something will fill the void and it won't take long.[/QUOTE]Understand going after underage or sex slaves, however the women I have encountered in the biz do this for one and only one reason. $$ they are not pimped, underage or doing the biz under direst. Most I have encountered actually tried real jobs, but could not make the money they make as providers! Or in many instances are too lazy to get up early and go to work! So my question would be who do they hurt? I believe they help! Another government line of bs-imo. I am in chicago proper like many of you! Most of the supposed programs to help are bs! The killings and burglaries, assaults, batteries go on no matter what the government wants the tourista and conventioneer to believe!
[QUOTE=Barbarossa;3223332]The escorts will migrate to the women for men dating section and the body rubs will migrate to the massage section. Eventually, another website will emerge. Perhaps it will be this website.[/QUOTE]There's going to be a few who don't make the transition. Looks like the going is going to be tough for a while. I read on the oThER discussion boards and the overpriced girls on there think it's great. Oh, everyone is going to join a verification service and pay 6 bills to come to the gold coast now. Delusional.
[QUOTE=Colesmithe;3092942]Have seen her 2 x. She seems very shy (which was part of why I went back the second time) but I would be surprised if FS was on the menu. She doesn't seem all that enthusiastic. I have found Sylvia and Daisy to be more sensual and into the sessions. Have yet to meet Inessa or Melissa despite all the rave reviews.[/QUOTE]I saw Kate yesterday with hopes of Full Service, but no dice. I do lover her tits though.
[QUOTE=Degenerate1776;3224834]There's going to be a few who don't make the transition. Looks like the going is going to be tough for a while. I read on the oThER discussion boards and the overpriced girls on there think it's great. Oh, everyone is going to join a verification service and pay 6 bills to come to the gold coast now. Delusional.[/QUOTE]If I were to guess and guess the subject correctly, I probably won't disagree with your comments about being overpriced. Overall, girls advertise on TER are definitely more expensive, but many are definitely worth the tag based on their service, appearance, better incall options etc. These worthy ones are likely to live up to the higher-end standard and have their things together.
But I just want to let you know that some providers may read stuff here or their clients may pass things along. Then the providers may start to call us names like time wasters or stalkers etc. As if USASG is full of lowlifes.
As long as someone can afford the price tag providers have put forth, who are we to judge, right? My trash may be someone's gold and vice versa.
Well that was anticlimactic. The bodyrub girls went to the massage section and the escorts went to the w4 m section. If you are a massage guy like me, now the legit, semi naughty, and naughty girls are all in the same section. I prefer it this way.
[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;3224946]Well that was anticlimactic. The bodyrub girls went to the massage section and the escorts went to the w4 m section. If you are a massage guy like me, now the legit, semi naughty, and naughty girls are all in the same section. I prefer it this way.[/QUOTE]The legit ones will be like, great now we are getting guys showing up looking for exta's.
[QUOTE=BlueUc;3224977]The legit ones will be like, great now we are getting guys showing up looking for extra's.[/QUOTE]No matter where Legit Therapists advertise they're going to get asked for extra play. If they advertise on Backpage and expect not to get asked for extra play, then there's something wrong with them.
[QUOTE=CoolPatrick;3224929]If I were to guess and guess the subject correctly, I probably won't disagree with your comments about being overpriced. Overall, girls advertise on TER are definitely more expensive, but many are definitely worth the tag based on their service, appearance, better incall options etc. These worthy ones are likely to live up to the higher-end standard and have their things together.
But I just want to let you know that some providers may read stuff here or their clients may pass things along. Then the providers may start to call us names like time wasters or stalkers etc. As if USASG is full of lowlifes.
As long as someone can afford the price tag providers have put forth, who are we to judge, right? My trash may be someone's gold and vice versa.[/QUOTE]The providers are worth what the market will bare. I would rather they set a price and if I want the service I go in the situation that I pay that and a tip depending on attitude and ability to at least try to please. The SW's expect that the car dates are going to be negotiable depending on weather, uncle presence and strollers in cars. But as far as an incall or outcall girl that advertises and it's not a bait and switch or scammer, I am willing to pay what they ask. I don't think the BP censor will have much affect. The providers need the money and the mongers need the release! Supply and demand. Just imo.
Some girls on ter like the ones that belong to xocompanions or young model like girls from CEC / EEC are probably worth the donation. I browse ter ads sometimes and I can't believe there are people that pay $4-500 for some 7/10 hag in her late 30's.
[QUOTE=CoolPatrick;3224929]If I were to guess and guess the subject correctly, I probably won't disagree with your comments about being overpriced. Overall, girls advertise on TER are definitely more expensive, but many are definitely worth the tag based on their service, appearance, better incall options etc. These worthy ones are likely to live up to the higher-end standard and have their things together.
But I just want to let you know that some providers may read stuff here or their clients may pass things along. Then the providers may start to call us names like time wasters or stalkers etc. As if USASG is full of lowlifes.
As long as someone can afford the price tag providers have put forth, who are we to judge, right? My trash may be someone's gold and vice versa.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CoolPatrick;3224929]If I were to guess and guess the subject correctly, I probably won't disagree with your comments about being overpriced. Overall, girls advertise on TER are definitely more expensive, but many are definitely worth the tag based on their service, appearance, better incall options etc. These worthy ones are likely to live up to the higher-end standard and have their things together.
But I just want to let you know that some providers may read stuff here or their clients may pass things along. Then the providers may start to call us names like time wasters or stalkers etc. As if USASG is full of lowlifes.
As long as someone can afford the price tag providers have put forth, who are we to judge, right? My trash may be someone's gold and vice versa.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. I didn't mean to come off as judgy, it was in response to some of what the ladies posted on the ter boards. A few of them had nothing but smarmy and arrogant things to say about BP and anyone who would use BP. I think the flow of respect should work both ways.
I've seen a few BP advertisers also showing up lately CL casual encounters section, including TER reviewed gals.
Absolutely, respect is a two way street or should be but I would imagine a lot of those ladies don't have a lot of respect for their customers. For me its difficult to tell on TER because of the way many of the reviews are written.
[QUOTE=Degenerate1776;3225415]Fair enough. I didn't mean to come off as judgy, it was in response to some of what the ladies posted on the ter boards. A few of them had nothing but smarmy and arrogant things to say about BP and anyone who would use BP. I think the flow of respect should work both ways.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fdottt;3224179]So just to clarify you didn't pay sleeping girl anything right?[/QUOTE]Transfer of fortee. I usually give her that anyway (every session is bbfs) sometimes I'll give a little more, never planned or have did more then a hundo tho. This was going to be the first time since it was an overnight. This girl is young and has no clue on pricing unless she's letting me off Scott free LOL. But alot of times she came to me her off and on boyfriend was in the truck but she lied to him about why she was at my house. He's locked up now and it's made it easier for overnights to happen with her. Since she lets me do whatever for so cheap I told her I'd just give her the minimum. But I told her that before she fell asleep on Friday. I gave it to her to smooth things over but if she sees me again I'm going to make work. No overnights for me tho for awhile. I never see people post about overnight dates in here.
I just want to say I'm summarizing obviously so if seniors want more details, PM me.
I really want to help fellow mongers. Because y'all be driving up prices out here. But then again I try to be the master negotiator. Remember the ball is in your court. You have the resources. There's plenty of them. All in competition for what you got.
[QUOTE=Degenerate1776;3225415]Fair enough. I didn't mean to come off as judgy, it was in response to some of what the ladies posted on the ter boards. A few of them had nothing but smarmy and arrogant things to say about BP and anyone who would use BP. I think the flow of respect should work both ways.[/QUOTE]No worries, like I said, I believe I figured out who is your subject in your post. And I read their posts on the other site and got the same thoughts. I just want to post something a bit neutral to smooth out any potential bad reactions from providers' perspective for the forum sake.
[QUOTE=RonM;3225092]No matter where Legit Therapists advertise they're going to get asked for extra play. If they advertise on Backpage and expect not to get asked for extra play, then there's something wrong with them.[/QUOTE]For places like Massage Envy, I doubt guys will ask them for extra.
But Ron you are right that, if a legit therapist or spa advertise on CL or BP and got caught off guard by such questions, then there is something wrong with them. .
No one has commented on backpage being shut down I feel that it's crap that the government can't handle there big issues so let's just target something like this it's unreal. Wonder where to start looking now?
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Just a heads up, but I think BP is still processing posts to their escort section. Their portal merely is being censored, not allowed to display their posts.
Those posts ARE viewable through other sites. Not sure if the way to describe it is "data mining sites. " You've seen them before, they're those sites that simply rehash BP posts. Or present them as Review sites, but they are just BP posts reposted under their site.
I am currently viewing posts from this morning. Girls need to know their posts are still reachable, just not directly. I assume some of the todays posts are people unaware of the Censorship block, or posts which had automatic re-post already paid for.
Attached is a link to a page that has a comprehensive list of a lot of post sites with links but also gives affiliations and parent holders. I don't think it was intended how I am using it but oh well!
[URL]https://www.ratethatrescue.org/wp/frm_display/organizations/?country=United%20States&status=Active&sw-focus=Escort&services=Advertising[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrCharmo;3226361]Just a heads up, but I think BP is still processing posts to their escort section. Their portal merely is being censored, not allowed to display their posts.
Those posts ARE viewable through other sites. Not sure if the way to describe it is "data mining sites. " You've seen them before, they're those sites that simply rehash BP posts. Or present them as Review sites, but they are just BP posts reposted under their site.
I am currently viewing posts from this morning. Girls need to know their posts are still reachable, just not directly. I assume some of the todays posts are people unaware of the Censorship block, or posts which had automatic re-post already paid for.[/QUOTE][URL]liveescortreviews.com[/URL] Then you can find the link for Chicago section to see Chicago BP escort section. You can click on body rub tab and get to [URL]liverubreviews.com[/URL] to see BP posts from the body rub section.
Not sure how long this will work but the "Dating" section seems to be the new placeholder.
BS.
[QUOTE=CoolPatrick;3226654][URL]liveescortreviews.com[/URL] Then you can find the link for Chicago section to see Chicago BP escort section. You can click on body rub tab and get to [URL]liverubreviews.com[/URL] to see BP posts from the body rub section.[/QUOTE]And thk you, CP. So in the opinion is this just until the well runs dry from BP or is this a work around for us and the providers for the future?
[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;3224946]Well that was anticlimactic. The bodyrub girls went to the massage section and the escorts went to the w4 m section. If you are a massage guy like me, now the legit, semi naughty, and naughty girls are all in the same section. I prefer it this way.[/QUOTE]This censorship seems more damaging to escorts then to the body rub girls. You can't quote price in W4 M and you can't create a link to an agency website from what I can tell. A real problem for an agency like Exclusive. The postings from the body rub agencies seem the same. I guess the real fear is they will shut down all US advertising.
Yes. It is obvious that the escorts solely dependent on BP are big time affected. But overall, I think if BP gets shutdown it will likely appear and thrive in another form.
As the whole allegation against BP doesn't make sense. I don't think they could justify their case against BP when sites like Eros, ECCIE, * etc. Basically thrive on such Ads except perhaps they are more on the higher end.
[QUOTE=Riina;3226884]This censorship seems more damaging to escorts then to the body rub girls. You can't quote price in W4 M and you can't create a link to an agency website from what I can tell. A real problem for an agency like Exclusive. The postings from the body rub agencies seem the same. I guess the real fear is they will shut down all US advertising.[/QUOTE]
I understand Backpage trying to fight for their rights but why would they not move their website outside the USA like this website did? Yes their offices also.
It's standing room only in there.
[QUOTE=Jayp80;3227337]It's standing room only in there.[/QUOTE]It's not 100% (shift on BP to w4 m). Or even 90, by my informal, unscientific research. Nor are the 'scraper sites' collecting and redisplaying everything -for example, two BP posters I followed --one posted every other day or so and the other would post every few days but always take the post down by the end of the posting day. Neither appear on the Scrapers or the LIVE site. Another one had been posting every day and overlapping (as recently as Monday) turns up on a SCRAPER. But the ad is 6 mos old. Whereas the 'LIVE' site picked up her BP ad from " Wednesday, January 11,2017 1:43 PM " . Most peculiar.
I would have to concur that providers can (and do) still post to BP escorts sections, but no one can see them DIRECTLY.
This also leads me to conclude that now might be a good time for sampling the pricier BP advertisers. I have to assume business has TANKED for any providers primarily on BP.
An unrelated thought: With BP essentially down, the Tommy D stingers will have to find a new medium as well.
F.
[QUOTE=Funride128;3226297]No one has commented on backpage being shut down I feel that it's crap that the government can't handle there big issues so let's just target something like this it's unreal. Wonder where to start looking now?
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[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;3226769]And thk you, CP. So in the opinion is this just until the well runs dry from BP or is this a work around for us and the providers for the future?[/QUOTE]The actual BP escort section is still posting. I reached it through one of those mirror sites. Sorry, I was half asleep this morning. Don't recall which site. But they were BP posts. They're just censored off the official site, but secondary sites still able to generate their content. I will post, or PM me for link. Maybe best to keep specific sites hush from LEO?
[QUOTE=Cognac060;3227459]A lot of people have been commenting about it. LOL.[/QUOTE]Not at 4 am yesterday morning sir unless in just blind but the fact that Jackson gave the link to the sit that the use here is great have a great day and thanks Jakson for the link.
[QUOTE=feckless;3227376]It's not 100% (shift on BP to w4 m). Or even 90, by my informal, unscientific research. Nor are the 'scraper sites' collecting and redisplaying everything -for example, two BP posters I followed --one posted every other day or so and the other would post every few days but always take the post down by the end of the posting day. Neither appear on the Scrapers or the LIVE site. Another one had been posting every day and overlapping (as recently as Monday) turns up on a SCRAPER. But the ad is 6 mos old. Whereas the 'LIVE' site picked up her BP ad from " Wednesday, January 11,2017 1:43 PM " . Most peculiar.
I would have to concur that providers can (and do) still post to BP escorts sections, but no one can see them DIRECTLY.
This also leads me to conclude that now might be a good time for sampling the pricier BP advertisers. I have to assume business has TANKED for any providers primarily on BP.
An unrelated thought: With BP essentially down, the Tommy D stingers will have to find a new medium as well.
F.[/QUOTE]I am tracking a girl in pittsburgh and she would do the same thing. A few days on a few days off. I have not seen her surface on the scraper sites and she has not shown up on BP under massage or w4 m. She would post on body rubs, domination and then just recently escorts. I am so stupid! I just saw her in BP escorts w / a current number (she has several) and then the site went down. She needs money, she will surface but where I just need to look around. Any input is always appreciated.