[QUOTE=ILuvThisTown29;5108993]I was actually really thinking about investing into whitespages does it really give you a detailed report?[/QUOTE]I pay for spokeo. Works well and even sometimes gives you the link to their social media.
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[QUOTE=ILuvThisTown29;5108993]I was actually really thinking about investing into whitespages does it really give you a detailed report?[/QUOTE]I pay for spokeo. Works well and even sometimes gives you the link to their social media.
Why are you trading pictures with a provider. They seriously don't care what your dick looks like as they've seen hundreds and only want to see stacks of money. And no need to get pics of them either unless they randomly send them to you. Its a fake profile thing when they constantly send you pics.
[QUOTE=ILuvThisTown29;5108266]So this is why I encourage SD to always always talk to more then one SB. So I had been talking to Gemma for 2 weeks. Conversation started really casual and little more intense everyday. We start sharing pretty intimate details about each other. Then she disappear for a few days apologize then we continue to talk. Then again she disappear then come back. It was a pretty constant pattern with her. So after awhile I started looking for someone else. So she comes back for the final time and I asked if she like to talk and radio silences for half a day at the end of the night she started sending me some really explicit text messages. So I I recommended that we meet up at target there a Starbucks inside at the Shelby township location I was passing through anyways. Said around 2. So I get there around 1:55 waited 20 minutes nothing so I leave 15 minutes is my limit unless you text me you'll be late. So I text her on the way out the door got nothing back. Later on that night I get a SC request from a mystery Person I knew it was her because she the only person I made this fake Snapchat account for. They started posting pics of me at target all my explicit Pics I shared with Gemma13 and all of a sudden they told me if I didn't pay them 1500 via cash App they would put it all over Facebook. In which I respond IDGF = I don't GIVE A FUCK and laughed I told this * to get out my face and if anything that Dick pic going to Attracted more SB. So I block her dumb ass and reported her to SA. But again even with evidence SA has allowed her account to stay active.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=AnanaMo;5109058]I pay for spokeo. Works well and even sometimes gives you the link to their social media.[/QUOTE]I loved having reverse search engines for a while. Best deal I thought was Intellius. Spokeo was better but more expensive. BeenVerified gave the most information but it was less up to date.
Then look their names up on [URL]Mugshots.com[/URL], OTIS and county courts like Wayne County Third Circuit.
Its very enlightening. If they have substance charges, remember don't overpay.
[QUOTE=BrandoM;5109322]Why are you trading pictures with a provider. They seriously don't care what your dick looks like as they've seen hundreds and only want to see stacks of money. And no need to get pics of them either unless they randomly send them to you. Its a fake profile thing when they constantly send you pics.
.[/QUOTE]Been on SA for about a month still tryin to land a few cause my work has been crazy busy. I've been asked for a face pic a couple times. Wondering if it was for blackmail too. I never sent cause I'm not the one selling mygoods here. 2 of them kept afte me about it. I moved on from them. Doesn't matter to me cause I'm divorced and single. MM686.
I've been a paying member on Seeking now for the past 2-2.5 months and have yet to find someone who's halfway decent for something ongoing. My type is SB's who are newer to sugaring, more of an UTR. Women around 24-32 appeal to me the most.
When I first joined, I was putting a lot of effort into messaging women; I'm always direct but never pushy or aggressive. I try to get off of the site as quickly as possible to text or many ask if I have SC.
After a few texts I always ask what their schedule is so we can meet for a coffee, etc. At this point, this is where 8/9 out of 10 girls usually do the same thing- some form of they will let me know, or some type of low interest response. After that I usually tell them to reach out when they figure it out. In most cases I never hear back from them and I don't like to reach back out again when I put the ball into their court. If things do make it to the actual day of our M&G, many will flake or something always comes up. I do all the leg work to find a time, place, somewhere that's close to them all they have to do is show up LOL!
So far, though, I have met two POT SB's since I've been on there for a M&G but one ghosted after we had an arrangement made and the other I could tell was going to be more of a headache long term than what it would've been worth.
With that being said, I've received lots of messages on there- the usual scammers, undesirables, awful communicators who don't seem all there in the head.
I'll give it a little longer, but I'm getting close to giving it a break for awhile.
[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;5110900]Been on SA for about a month still tryin to land a few cause my work has been crazy busy. I've been asked for a face pic a couple times. Wondering if it was for blackmail too. I never sent cause I'm not the one selling mygoods here. 2 of them kept afte me about it. I moved on from them. Doesn't matter to me cause I'm divorced and single. MM686.[/QUOTE]My thought process is a little different, but perhaps it's because I am looking for something a little different. I try to avoid the semi-pros, UTRs, etc. I actually prefer something that will be relatively long-term with someone for whom SA is not a career. I've been very fortunate and have had several long-term arrangements (as long as 2 years). All of my best arrangements have been with girls who asked for pictures. In fact, if a girl commits to meeting without having requested a picture, I view that as a substantial negative. I'm not looking for someone who is willing to commit to sex with someone when they haven't even seen a picture. For the same reason, I never offer to send a picture, because I want it to be their idea.
[QUOTE=LoVecchio;5111531]My thought process is a little different, but perhaps it's because I am looking for something a little different. I try to avoid the semi-pros, UTRs, etc. I actually prefer something that will be relatively long-term with someone for whom SA is not a career. I've been very fortunate and have had several long-term arrangements (as long as 2 years). All of my best arrangements have been with girls who asked for pictures. In fact, if a girl commits to meeting without having requested a picture, I view that as a substantial negative. I'm not looking for someone who is willing to commit to sex with someone when they haven't even seen a picture. For the same reason, I never offer to send a picture, because I want it to be their idea.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'm just I guess always cautious not to get into a bad situation. TY for the opinion. I'm a long time hobbiest but been on SA for about 30 days. Definately learning still. I do want what you describe. Long term nsa arrangement too. One of my holdups is finding hotels that will have a room checkin during daytime hours. Like 1 pm or so. Any help on that would be appreciated. Happy hunting my friend. Mm686.
[QUOTE=Gyxser70;5110950]I've been a paying member on Seeking now for the past 2-2.5 months and have yet to find someone who's halfway decent for something ongoing. My type is SB's who are newer to sugaring, more of an UTR. Women around 24-32 appeal to me the most.
When I first joined, I was putting a lot of effort into messaging women; I'm always direct but never pushy or aggressive. I try to get off of the site as quickly as possible to text or many ask if I have SC.
After a few texts I always ask what their schedule is so we can meet for a coffee, etc. At this point, this is where 8/9 out of 10 girls usually do the same thing- some form of they will let me know, or some type of low interest response. After that I usually tell them to reach out when they figure it out. In most cases I never hear back from them and I don't like to reach back out again when I put the ball into their court. If things do make it to the actual day of our M&G, many will flake or something always comes up. I do all the leg work to find a time, place, somewhere that's close to them all they have to do is show up LOL!
So far, though, I have met two POT SB's since I've been on there for a M&G but one ghosted after we had an arrangement made and the other I could tell was going to be more of a headache long term than what it would've been worth.
With that being said, I've received lots of messages on there- the usual scammers, undesirables, awful communicators who don't seem all there in the head.
I'll give it a little longer, but I'm getting close to giving it a break for awhile.[/QUOTE]This is spot on my experience too. Almost impossible to have a full conversation with one without them delaying for hours. I'm not small talking for long but have learned to get to the point. Then negoiate over my cell from there. Not a whole lot of interest from the SB's sometimes.
This is interesting, because, when I try, I can typically meet up with a couple of new people a week if I want to. My issue of late and why I'm taking a break, is that almost all come off as providers lately, probably due to Covid scaring off more casual people. Before this, I met a few that ended up just being longterm friends, and they got off the site, which is more of the style I look for as well.
[QUOTE=Gyxser70;5110950]I've been a paying member on Seeking now for the past 2-2.5 months and have yet to find someone who's halfway decent for something ongoing. My type is SB's who are newer to sugaring, more of an UTR. Women around 24-32 appeal to me the most.
When I first joined, I was putting a lot of effort into messaging women; I'm always direct but never pushy or aggressive. I try to get off of the site as quickly as possible to text or many ask if I have SC.
After a few texts I always ask what their schedule is so we can meet for a coffee, etc. At this point, this is where 8/9 out of 10 girls usually do the same thing- some form of they will let me know, or some type of low interest response. After that I usually tell them to reach out when they figure it out. In most cases I never hear back from them and I don't like to reach back out again when I put the ball into their court. If things do make it to the actual day of our M&G, many will flake or something always comes up. I do all the leg work to find a time, place, somewhere that's close to them all they have to do is show up LOL!
So far, though, I have met two POT SB's since I've been on there for a M&G but one ghosted after we had an arrangement made and the other I could tell was going to be more of a headache long term than what it would've been worth.
With that being said, I've received lots of messages on there- the usual scammers, undesirables, awful communicators who don't seem all there in the head.
I'll give it a little longer, but I'm getting close to giving it a break for awhile.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;5112201]One of my holdups is finding hotels that will have a room checkin during daytime hours. Like 1 pm or so. Any help on that would be appreciated. Happy hunting my friend. Mm686.[/QUOTE]I am in the same boat -- needing early check-in for daytime meetings. Most hotels will not guarantee early check-in, so what I often do is make reservations at a few places in the appropriate locale and then call them the morning-of to see if they have a room available. Usually, if they do have a room, it's not a problem to check in early. But if they were full the night before, sometimes they won't have a clean room early. (I often like to meet early- to mid-morning, which is harder than early afternoon.).
The important caution here is that you have to find hotels that will allow cancellations the day of arrival. Otherwise, you're on the hook for a room you can't use if they don't have one available for early check-in.
On a couple of occasions, I reserved a room for two nights, so that I would be guaranteed a room. Those were special occasions, though. That only works easily if the meeting site is close to where I live or work, so that it's not a problem checking in the day before. I often meet girls who are an hour away from me (occasionally more), and the logistics of checking in the day before are kind of difficult. And, of course, this doubles the cost of the hotel.
This one had a long coversation with me but wants to do a meet and greet. 50 cash app 50 face to face. Are they ever legit if you do the prepay or is it always a scam?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4c210062-2713-4181-a740-0e72098f35b8[/URL]
Ty.
Mm686.
[QUOTE=LoVecchio;5112227]I am in the same boat -- needing early check-in for daytime meetings. Most hotels will not guarantee early check-in, so what I often do is make reservations at a few places in the appropriate locale and then call them the morning-of to see if they have a room available. Usually, if they do have a room, it's not a problem to check in early. But if they were full the night before, sometimes they won't have a clean room early. (I often like to meet early- to mid-morning, which is harder than early afternoon.).
The important caution here is that you have to find hotels that will allow cancellations the day of arrival. Otherwise, you're on the hook for a room you can't use if they don't have one available for early check-in.
On a couple of occasions, I reserved a room for two nights, so that I would be guaranteed a room. Those were special occasions, though. That only works easily if the meeting site is close to where I live or work, so that it's not a problem checking in the day before. I often meet girls who are an hour away from me (occasionally more), and the logistics of checking in the day before are kind of difficult. And, of course, this doubles the cost of the hotel.[/QUOTE]TY for the help. Mm686.
[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;5112277]This one had a long coversation with me but wants to do a meet and greet. 50 cash app 50 face to face. Are they ever legit if you do the prepay or is it always a scam?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4c210062-2713-4181-a740-0e72098f35b8[/URL]
Ty.
Mm686.[/QUOTE]Never give money first.
If you suspect a scammer, just ask them what area they live in. If they're local, they'll give an applicable suburb; scammers tend to avoid the question because they don't even remember what city they put.
[QUOTE=LoVecchio;5107206]Who do you mean?[/QUOTE]Here she is. She's completely revamped her profile. LOL!
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ad15795a-1329-49c1-92bd-97f1b948001a[/URL]
[QUOTE=JoeLefty;5112729]Here she is. She's completely revamped her profile. LOL!
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ad15795a-1329-49c1-92bd-97f1b948001a[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. She's too punctuation-challenged for me.
What is the best way to break up with an SB without hurting her feelings? I have been seeing this SB, she is very sweet and fun but sex has not been good (Ever heard of Starfish sex). Should I tell her I lost my job?
[QUOTE=Jay23;5112797]What is the best way to break up with an SB without hurting her feelings? I have been seeing this SB, she is very sweet and fun but sex has not been good (Ever heard of Starfish sex). Should I tell her I lost my job?[/QUOTE]Same problem here. With the economy limited and unemployment ending there are at least a few ways to end it. Makes me think of having a backup financial reason in case she tries to keep things going.
First off if you get to a point where you think that it's going to be difficult to stop seeing a baby you have already fucked up. Sugaring is typically NSA, meaning no commitment and minimal feelings. That is how I keep it anyway. I've cut off 100's of short and longer term arrangements. In only a few cases I felt compelled to actually say anything. I typically make something up like I starting seeing someone romantically, my sugar budget got drained or some bs like that. Mostly I just stop asking them to hook up or I don't respond to their messages. Sugaring should be easy peasy.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5112797]What is the best way to break up with an SB without hurting her feelings? I have been seeing this SB, she is very sweet and fun but sex has not been good (Ever heard of Starfish sex). Should I tell her I lost my job?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jay23;5112797]What is the best way to break up with an SB without hurting her feelings? I have been seeing this SB, she is very sweet and fun but sex has not been good (Ever heard of Starfish sex). Should I tell her I lost my job?[/QUOTE]I'd never say I lost a job or lost income. Instead just say something that breaks things off on good terms. You need to focus on your personal life and unfortunately won't be able to see her anymore. You got Covid. Your mom got Covid and is very sick. Whatever. That way you end it but the bridge isn't severed. Just in case.
I have caught feelings with a SB before. We still talk once a month or so. Both of us have moved on to different things but I miss her, on some level.
[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;5112201]Thanks. I'm just I guess always cautious not to get into a bad situation. TY for the opinion. I'm a long time hobbiest but been on SA for about 30 days. Definately learning still. I do want what you describe. Long term nsa arrangement too. One of my holdups is finding hotels that will have a room checkin during daytime hours. Like 1 pm or so. Any help on that would be appreciated. Happy hunting my friend. Mm686.[/QUOTE]Become a Marriott rewards member and download the app on your phone. You can check in online a day in advance, which will put you in line for them to get your room ready faster. Last time I saw someone at a hotel a couple weeks ago, the app notified me that my room was ready at 10 AM. I finished some errands and got there around noon.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5112797]What is the best way to break up with an SB without hurting her feelings? I have been seeing this SB, she is very sweet and fun but sex has not been good (Ever heard of Starfish sex). Should I tell her I lost my job?[/QUOTE]I just looked up what Starfish sex is. Lmao. Funny shit Jay23. Don't send her my way. Mm686.
[QUOTE=LoVecchio;5112227]I am in the same boat -- needing early check-in for daytime meetings. Most hotels will not guarantee early check-in, so what I often do is make reservations at a few places in the appropriate locale and then call them the morning-of to see if they have a room available. Usually, if they do have a room, it's not a problem to check in early. But if they were full the night before, sometimes they won't have a clean room early. (I often like to meet early- to mid-morning, which is harder than early afternoon.).
The important caution here is that you have to find hotels that will allow cancellations the day of arrival. Otherwise, you're on the hook for a room you can't use if they don't have one available for early check-in.
On a couple of occasions, I reserved a room for two nights, so that I would be guaranteed a room. Those were special occasions, though. That only works easily if the meeting site is close to where I live or work, so that it's not a problem checking in the day before. I often meet girls who are an hour away from me (occasionally more), and the logistics of checking in the day before are kind of difficult. And, of course, this doubles the cost of the hotel.[/QUOTE]I've done the same thing. Book for two nights, making sure to check in the day before I need the room to get the room key. Show up whatever time you need to in the morning to use the room. I have ended up cancelling the second night reservation on my way out and only get charged for the one night. This recently didn't work out and I ended up paying for two nights as my meeting went on a little longer than expected, but looking back, it all worked out.
[QUOTE=BrandoM;5112210]This is interesting, because, when I try, I can typically meet up with a couple of new people a week if I want to. My issue of late and why I'm taking a break, is that almost all come off as providers lately, probably due to Covid scaring off more casual people. Before this, I met a few that ended up just being longterm friends, and they got off the site, which is more of the style I look for as well..[/QUOTE]I could easily meet a couple new people a week. I'm talking about SB's I would actually want to meet, though is the issue LOL.
Chesterfield chick wants 100 deposit LOL and 400 overall.
[QUOTE=GuyDetroit;5114408]Chesterfield chick wants 100 deposit LOL and 400 overall.[/QUOTE]I never even got to the ppm quote before she asked me for $100 Cashapp. Told her. Sorry, I only do cash in person but my schedule's wide open and I can meet ASAP! Or is meeting up contingent on a Cashapp deposit. CRICKETS.
I always get asked for Gas Money. I ask them where they live (like tell me the intersection), then go on google maps, find a gas station and tell them "The gas station on the corner of x and why is owned by my cousin, you go their and I will call him and he will let you pump gas for free" and 99% of the women are so stupid, they will say "Well to get to your cousins gas station I need gas money" , my answer is "so you have a gas station at your home? ".
[QUOTE=ESide;5114724]I never even got to the ppm quote before she asked me for $100 Cashapp. Told her. Sorry, I only do cash in person but my schedule's wide open and I can meet ASAP! Or is meeting up contingent on a Cashapp deposit. CRICKETS.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnInv;5098222]Don't ever send one of these women money before you meet them in person.
Ever.[/QUOTE]Don't even send them money in advance even after you've met them in person I've had girls do me wrong like that as well after I had seen him a few times.
[QUOTE=GuyDetroit;5114408]Chesterfield chick wants 100 deposit LOL and 400 overall.[/QUOTE]Got offline into text asap. Seemed very nice actually. Made some small talk. Told me she had to take care of some things and would get back in 30. Was prompt getting back. Started to attempt negotiation. She hit me with $50 deposit. I told her she wasted a couple hours of my time when she could have just told me that off the jump. Then I said, if she sends me a customized video with a couple minutes of striptease where she actually said my name, I would send the $50 and we'd work out getting together. Silence for about 5 and then a video comes through. Generic 9 second video showing her ass in a thong. She said that should be enough. I said it wasn't and told her she might as well lead with the deposit. If there is someone stupid enough to front money, they are going to do it right away. I am sick of some of these girls on SA with their online friend bullshit, or the send me a deposit so I know you're serious. I just need a girl who will actually meet, and doesn't want me to meet her in a horrible neighborhood. Is that too much to ask?
Been talking with this one. Seems legit. Probably going to meet up. Anybody have a dream with her before? If not I will report back. Mm686.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/eb912282-f9ca-4811-acc4-53aa4524961a[/URL]
[QUOTE=TheEmmyGoes2;5115069]Got offline into text asap. Seemed very nice actually. Made some small talk. Told me she had to take care of some things and would get back in 30. Was prompt getting back. Started to attempt negotiation. She hit me with $50 deposit. I told her she wasted a couple hours of my time when she could have just told me that off the jump. Then I said, if she sends me a customized video with a couple minutes of striptease where she actually said my name, I would send the $50 and we'd work out getting together. Silence for about 5 and then a video comes through. Generic 9 second video showing her ass in a thong. She said that should be enough. I said it wasn't and told her she might as well lead with the deposit. If there is someone stupid enough to front money, they are going to do it right away. I am sick of some of these girls on SA with their online friend bullshit, or the send me a deposit so I know you're serious. I just need a girl who will actually meet, and doesn't want me to meet her in a horrible neighborhood. Is that too much to ask?[/QUOTE]Same thing happened with me I was like no way.
Texted an Sb for a while then did a meet and greet. She said lets meet at Meijer and talk while I pick up a few things. I said ok. We met in the Christmas tree area and her cart was empty. Started walking around and she starts filling up the cart. Food then toys then water then wine now clothes now vodka etc. Till the fukin cart is full to the top. WTF? Walks me over to the checkout looks at me and said can you give me a little help? Ok. Now I see the catch here. Single mom scam. Gave a hundy and made like horseshit and hit the trail. Lmfao. Had to share. Don't hold it against me. Mm686.
[QUOTE=TheEmmyGoes2;5115069]Got offline into text asap. Seemed very nice actually. Made some small talk. Told me she had to take care of some things and would get back in 30. Was prompt getting back. Started to attempt negotiation. She hit me with $50 deposit. I told her she wasted a couple hours of my time when she could have just told me that off the jump. Then I said, if she sends me a customized video with a couple minutes of striptease where she actually said my name, I would send the $50 and we'd work out getting together. Silence for about 5 and then a video comes through. Generic 9 second video showing her ass in a thong. She said that should be enough. I said it wasn't and told her she might as well lead with the deposit. If there is someone stupid enough to front money, they are going to do it right away. I am sick of some of these girls on SA with their online friend bullshit, or the send me a deposit so I know you're serious. I just need a girl who will actually meet, and doesn't want me to meet her in a horrible neighborhood. Is that too much to ask?[/QUOTE]Do you know even its a girl, it can be a guy in Nigeria.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5115164]Do you know even its a girl, it can be a guy in Nigeria.[/QUOTE]Lmao. Thats some funny shit yet again Jay 23. Killin me. Mm686.
So I had this account for 2 years they literally renewed my account and bannned me the same day. LOL shady fucking company.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e3f363cb-992c-4335-b254-241e072027b1[/URL]
I have been talking to her for a few days. We planned on meeting and then there was some miscommunication, more my fault. Seems legit but any info is always appreciated.
Some high end lemon if you're up for it. Asking 600/ppm.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/750945da-8506-404f-8aae-05f1b2c323c9[/URL]
[QUOTE=GuyDetroit;5114408]Chesterfield chick wants 100 deposit LOL and 400 overall.[/QUOTE]Yep. Same here. Told her I don't do upfront money unless we have met in person at least once. Haven't heard back from her since.
[QUOTE=ILuvThisTown29;5115339]So I had this account for 2 years they literally renewed my account and bannned me the same day. LOL shady fucking company.[/QUOTE]Yep, that's their biz model. Girls can create an unlimited number of fake accounts but guys get suspended and they expect you to fork another 90 bucks to sign up.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5116132]Yep, that's their biz model. Girls can create an unlimited number of fake accounts but guys get suspended and they expect you to fork another 90 bucks to sign up.[/QUOTE]Other than actually making your arrangement what can you get kicked off for? I don't want to get booted. Mm686.
[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;5116599]Other than actually making your arrangement what can you get kicked off for? I don't want to get booted. Mm686.[/QUOTE]Do all you can do limit your chat on Seeking and move to Google voice or some other burner SMS platform (I use 8 x8). I got suspended because I discussed money, of course now I got a new account.