Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

[QUOTE=AnonymouCol;5335413]Hopefully one of you old farts (joking) can help me out here. This is honestly the biggest group of older local guys I can consult so I thought I'd respectfully throw it your way.

I've had a bunch of injuries over the years through work and play (two shoulders that need repaired right now) and had surgeries, but I've only taken what pain meds they give me and flush the rest. Now I can see that was a mistake apparently the docs can't hand a damn thing out to people who need it anymore.

Lord we all see how ugly that stuff gets, but I haven't needed anything than Advil or a Tylenol III in about 5 years. Started getting arthritis symptoms in both knees, ankles, hips, lower back, fingers etc) and I got referred out to sports medicine for imaging. They told me to get some over the counter numbing cream and take steroids. Told them when I walked in that I haven't slept a full night in a week and apparently steroids were the answer. Inflammation is going down but I'm on my last nerve.

Anyhow, I've got good insurance and hate going to the doctors, so if I'm going to spend a whole day of my life to get a night's sleep, I don't want to waste my time. Any advice or help from anyone with chronic pain, feel free to msg me. Watched my mom start dealing with this stuff around my age and it isn't pretty.[/QUOTE]If it were up to my doctors, I would be hooked on either Percocet or Vicodin right now. I have a very rare spinal condition that puts me in constant chronic pain. 24 hours a day seven days a week it's just nonstop. Anyway, I had never smoke weed other than one time when I was like 20 with a girlfriend. A friend of mineSaw how much pain I was in, and gave me some marijuana and a pipe and told me how to use it. I'm a full believer in medical marijuana now. I smoke it every day, and I mean every day, unless I'm purposely taking a week off so it hits me harder next time LOL. Get your medical card.

[QUOTE=TBobber;5338749]If it were up to my doctors, I would be hooked on either Percocet or Vicodin right now. I have a very rare spinal condition that puts me in constant chronic pain. 24 hours a day seven days a week it's just nonstop. Anyway, I had never smoke weed other than one time when I was like 20 with a girlfriend. A friend of mineSaw how much pain I was in, and gave me some marijuana and a pipe and told me how to use it. I'm a full believer in medical marijuana now. I smoke it every day, and I mean every day, unless I'm purposely taking a week off so it hits me harder next time LOL. Get your medical card.[/QUOTE]Sending PM.

[QUOTE=JonHangcok;5355727]Is your UTR a retired adult film star?[/QUOTE]Would never desire to pay 3-5 for a 50 year old with a lot of mileage even if she had a smoking body unless she stayed overnight and into next day.

I've been to Vegas and have banged super hot for less than what these zoombies are asking for a hhr. To each his own, but the fact someone got filmed banging guys raw for a living makes me look elsewhere.

YMMV,

-G.

Hey, so I just book with a double GFE experience, and NGL, never done a threesome before so I'm a bit intimated and might just switch to just meeting only one of them, but if I was to continue, what tips would you guys give when handling two GFEs at the same time?

[QUOTE=Thrump;5367952]Hey, so I just book with a double GFE experience, and NGL, never done a threesome before so I'm a bit intimated and might just switch to just meeting only one of them, but if I was to continue, what tips would you guys give when handling two GFEs at the same time?[/QUOTE]I was blessed last week to find a set of goth girls in a bar and after a few drinks they took me to their place nearby. They were super horny, kinky, and knowledgeable about getting to orgasm. A few good tips of handling 2 girls at the same time is to let them get into each other. Women tent to get into the sexual arousal faster than with a man. Let them kiss and touch each other as you watch and also touch both. Don't prefer one unless it's your wife or GF and dominate as the leader so they don't ride you like they did to me. Never tried to be on the bottom but it was great as I didn't do the moving. Anyway, another great option is to have sex toys for them, a vibrator, dildo, or perfume can do wonders to a girl's body when in heat so the climax would be much better than masturbation. As for you my friend, don't touch yourself for a while (a week is fine) so you'll save plenty in the tank. I like to eat an aphrodisiac food a day before to not only last for hours but to stay on my stamina, I run a mile daily to burn calories so do that too. You can try ginger in a drink or eat it raw, also avocados are amazing at making your semen thick and smelly and if you like to DATY each of them try a little natural honey (not the bear bottle) without the combs as it's mostly wax. I hope this somewhat crazy post help you. Good luck and stay thirsty!

[QUOTE=Thrump;5367952]Hey, so I just book with a double GFE experience, and NGL, never done a threesome before so I'm a bit intimated and might just switch to just meeting only one of them, but if I was to continue, what tips would you guys give when handling two GFEs at the same time?[/QUOTE]I hope it turns out to be an amazing experience for you, but the reality is that 80% or more threesomes with providers turn out to be a rip off for me. That is to say, they ain't like the porno or even civilians. Many providers offer the threesome because it's less work. That's right. All it means is that the two girls will switch off being one on one with you. They may even switch the covers between them. Now the 2nd girl may be in the same room, but she probably won't be on you and she will even less likely be on the other girl. She may play with herself while watching the two of you, but more likely she may play with her phone, go for a smoke, or head to the bathroom for a mirror check or to do substances. If you're really, really lucky, she may kiss you, play with your nipples, or rub your other parts while you are having your way with the other. But in my experience, most girls see it as just getting to split the work. You're paying double, but the girls are only each doing half the work that they would otherwise do. In the meantime, if the guy's a fool, he's just off in dreamyland thinking he's getting every man's dream. It ain't. Adjust your expectations. I've only had 1 or 2 good threesomes in about a dozen with these girls, and one of those was very rushed and way overcompensated. All that being said, I hope your experience turns out to be better than most. If not, you'll handle it just fine, it's just like being with 1 only they're taking turns on you.

As life in greater US is shifting in major ways, so too the ladies who had graced our streets the last decade or so. . . They're closer to leaving the earth plane, and as quantum mechanics note, those with most to lose can be ones with most to gain, with a few choice steps on a path of righteousness.

Yes, I know I'm talking about addicts amid thugs and robbers. But those who haven't died or been kicked so low to care any more, may have made some changes. LEO helps. And we're all here to evolve. So, may be that they're taking a time out, or a step up. Sadly, it may be a step down, or out, & on to the next life.

I'd hope us mongers, too, seek to make changes. Maybe getting off the loop and into the groceries, to toss out little comments to shopping gals who might need a hand, & be grateful to lend a hand back to us. We might also find a new UTR gal, or side-connection to enjoy this summer of unmasking.

[QUOTE=DreamMonger;5377564]

Yes, I know I'm talking about addicts amid thugs and robbers. But those who haven't died or been kicked so low to care any more, may have made some changes. LEO helps. And we're all here to evolve. So, may be that they're taking a time out, or a step up. Sadly, it may be a step down, or out, & on to next.[/QUOTE]Whatever you do be safe about it. Ladies evolve, thieves as well. I am tired of the game and look to settle down with a regular.

Guys need to stop simping for these overpriced, over the hill fiends.

When I get a don't call now, send a dick pic, or tell me where you work- they are on my do not call list.

Provide the service- get the donation, nothing more, nothing less.

-G.

Anyone heard from Jizman? Been a while since he posted hope all is ok.

[QUOTE=RickMann;5382949]Anyone heard from Jizman? Been a while since he posted hope all is ok.[/QUOTE]Was wondering the same myself.

[QUOTE=RickMann;5382949]Anyone heard from Jizman? Been a while since he posted hope all is ok.[/QUOTE]Nope haven't heard back from pm either.

There are websites where producers can look at women to hire, has anyone ever made any attempts to use something like this for the hobby? Probably have 500+ women listed in Ohio on one.

[QUOTE=DSmith1989;5387933]There are websites where producers can look at women to hire, has anyone ever made any attempts to use something like this for the hobby? Probably have 500+ women listed in Ohio on one.[/QUOTE]Like a fake casting couch or an actual legit one to help get them thru?

[QUOTE=MrBigMover2;5388872]Like a fake casting couch or an actual legit one to help get them thru?[/QUOTE]I have thought about doing this. Share or PM the site if you would / could where the producers post.

[QUOTE=DSmith1989;5387933]There are websites where producers can look at women to hire, has anyone ever made any attempts to use something like this for the hobby? Probably have 500+ women listed in Ohio on one.[/QUOTE]I am unfamiliar with these sites. Kudos to you for thinking outside the box. Great idea that may have merit. Thanks.

Is anyone else wondering if the respective absences of Jiz and Humpty have anything to do with the recent trafficking investigations? Is it possible their posts were construed as pandering or promoting illegal activity?

[QUOTE=Blueboy23;5392074]Is anyone else wondering if the respective absences of Jiz and Humpty have anything to do with the recent trafficking investigations? Is it possible their posts were construed as pandering or promoting illegal activity?[/QUOTE]I figured this server is overseas so should be safe? Thoughts?

[QUOTE=Blueboy23;5392074]Is anyone else wondering if the respective absences of Jiz and Humpty have anything to do with the recent trafficking investigations? Is it possible their posts were construed as pandering or promoting illegal activity?[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure Humpty is playing incognito & posting under another name and Jizman just got tired of the poor quality of women that are available right now and took a sabbatical.

[QUOTE=KC7676;5392490]I'm pretty sure Humpty is playing incognito & posting under another name and Jizman just got tired of the poor quality of women that are available right now and took a sabbatical.[/QUOTE]I agree Humpty is still posting, under a new name. Can't wait to see how, when, why he reveals himself.

[QUOTE=Blueboy23;5395240]I agree Humpty is still posting, under a new name. Can't wait to see how, when, why he reveals himself.[/QUOTE]If that's what he's doing, why even bother? What's the point? I'm just speculating, but the only reason I can think to even bother doing that is probably too many other mongers have mentioned him to providers, and since mongers mention the site by name to providers, maybe the come here and check out what he posts? I've mentioned the site to a few providers, but I never told them the website name. I tell them I'm on an online forum where we share provider info. Some of them say the site by name after I give that explanation, so mongers are talking. IDK like I said, I'm speculating. Hell if "the anonymous poster formerly known as Humpty Dumpty" wants to post under a new alias, more power to him.

[QUOTE=JonHangcok;5395861]If that's what he's doing, why even bother? What's the point? I'm just speculating, but the only reason I can think to even bother doing that is probably too many other mongers have mentioned him to providers, and since mongers mention the site by name to providers, maybe the come here and check out what he posts? I've mentioned the site to a few providers, but I never told them the website name. I tell them I'm on an online forum where we share provider info. Some of them say the site by name after I give that explanation, so mongers are talking. IDK like I said, I'm speculating. Hell if "the anonymous poster formerly known as Humpty Dumpty" wants to post under a new alias, more power to him.[/QUOTE]I would do the same thing if providers speculated my username. Nobody but me outside of the internet is to know my username. Whenever I post a review I intentionally say that I hung out with the individual another day then I actually did so they can never really know for sure its me if they happen to know about this site. I have had providers state that they know about the site though without me telling them. Usually I respond with "oh yeah I know about that site. I don't post on it though. " As far as Humpty, Jizman, or anything on this board being part of an investigation? Impossible, Theres a better chance of the DEA scoping out someones house for months and breaking down door to get a civil citation for a nickel bag of weed. Nothing on this board is admissible evidence if it was in the US, let alone in Montreal like it is.

If you want to know what the providers generally think of us here on this site. Got to one of the Reddits for Sex Workers. They HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE us. They get grossed out about the reviews. They think we're terrible for sharing info. The escorts think the SW guys are disgusting. And on and on and on. It's kinda like StripperWeb and how they like to talk about how they just want the customers to give them money and go away because they find them all disgusting. I learned early on just through research that it's best to not give your username or even admit to knowing what review sites are.

[QUOTE=Prim0;5397491]If you want to know what the providers generally think of us here on this site. Got to one of the Reddits for Sex Workers. They HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE us. They get grossed out about the reviews. They think we're terrible for sharing info. The escorts think the SW guys are disgusting. And on and on and on. It's kinda like StripperWeb and how they like to talk about how they just want the customers to give them money and go away because they find them all disgusting. I learned early on just through research that it's best to not give your username or even admit to knowing what review sites are.[/QUOTE]Yeah. I visited that sub a lot. You described it to a T. They don't want you contact them, get to know them, etc. But looooove when they get extra gifts. They don't like reviews because they like the idea of getting the client to pay more for more options and if you don't have it at the time. Oh well, maybe "next time". And don't get me started on the simps that agree with everything the ladies say. All for a virtual crumb. The GPS on that sub is over the top and I'm starting to think that some of the locals here may read it.

[QUOTE=Prim0;5397491]If you want to know what the providers generally think of us here on this site. Got to one of the Reddits for Sex Workers. They HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE us. They get grossed out about the reviews. They think we're terrible for sharing info. The escorts think the SW guys are disgusting. And on and on and on. It's kinda like StripperWeb and how they like to talk about how they just want the customers to give them money and go away because they find them all disgusting. I learned early on just through research that it's best to not give your username or even admit to knowing what review sites are.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this. I never once thought to check for a subreddit on mongering. I've already read a couple posts and its hilarious! I may get hooked reading all that shit.

I'm about to speculate again because I have no way to confirm this, but Humpty D kinda reminds me of another user who used to post in the Cbus and Cincinnati forums under the name Amon777. They both had an obsession with creampies, albeit Amon sounded way more obsessed, more reckless, and into somewhat more gross stuff in his posts. I mean who has BBFS anal and is disappointed that they came away from the experience with NO feces on their junk? What set them apart was Humpty's constant IBS-I wiped my ass with my socks-almost didn't make it-oops I shat myself stories (funny BTW), and his thriftiness (also funny) which according to another poster may not be true, just embellishment added to his reports. No way for us to know obviously. Both mongers made me laugh in their own ways. Once again this is just speculation. I don't care enough to actually know the truth LOL! It's all rather entertaining honestly.

[QUOTE=RockyRhodes;5296946]

My question related to using a lunch / dinner date as a way to pre-screen an escort that nobody has already reported on. [/QUOTE]Was bored this morning scrolling the old posts and wanted to add my $0. 02. I do this all the time as a verification method. I'm suprised more don't. I also 99 percent of the time make the meet in a different jurisdiction then the one that they have their incall in. If its a pig or a provider working for a pig I want them to have to write hours and hours of paperwork for a case that will fall apart in court very easy or get a plea bargain to disorderly conduct. Unless I see multiple rock solid reviews from other respected seniors I never meet at a hotel without this type of meet and I only sometimes will meet at a house before this type of meet. I've done my verification meet at gas stations, diners, and bars. These have ranged from talking a few hours at a bar over a drink or two and dinner, to extremely quick gas station meets where I can tell they are legit and we proceed with what we may or may not be doing. The only other way I skip my verification method is if a provider uses their real number, or provides their address and I am able to google it or search it on a few other websites and locate their real name. From there I run checks on the auditors site, social media, and case search websites to see if they are real and have any recent drug / soliciting charges. If they have minimal stuff like weed possession or soliciting, I skip this verification and proceed with the meet generally on their turf is OK in this situation. If its recent felonies, depending on how good looking they are I either decline or if I'm feeling it I require the verification meet to ensure that they arent working with the pigs and then take them to a room that I purchase with my cash under their name to ensure it isn't bugged and to ensure my name isn't tied to the room. Yes both of those situations have successfully materialized for me and ended in great nights. Remember, alot of recently busted providers are dumb enough to believe that if they help the pigs sting their clients they will reduce their charges. They won't. Foolproof? Absolutely not. But wanted to add my methods, I'm not the longest tenured but I do have near a decade under my belt in this game with zero arrests and only robbed twice.

C92.

Received a PM here from a user with less than 10 posts wanting info. Weird it had a request attached to it of a "read confirmation. " Anyone else get one of these I find it odd, was denied of course. Maybe Uncle?

[QUOTE=RickMann;5405735]Received a PM here from a user with less than 10 posts wanting info. Weird it had a request attached to it of a "read confirmation. " Anyone else get one of these I find it odd, was denied of course. Maybe Uncle?[/QUOTE]Not Uncle. Just a newer user name. Got locked out of the old one. Sorry you were not willing to help out an old newbie. I will always share what I have. Vernie.

[QUOTE=VernieHowell;5405873]Not Uncle. Just a newer user name. Got locked out of the old one. Sorry you were not willing to help out an old newbie. I will always share what I have. Vernie.[/QUOTE]I was talking to her on on another site not texting so I can't "help you. ".

This is real talk. I was driving home and got caught at the light at Joyce and 17th Avenue at 1:00 am or so. There was a lady type figure standing there or so I thought. Something didn't look right, so I circled back around. There was this person / thing standing there. It's face was puffy or swollen badly. The hair was like a bad wig, it was all black. The scariest part for me was their eyes were black and hollow. They tried to talk but it was more like a painful groan. I sped off. Like an idiot though I circled back to make sure I was not losing my marbles. This time I was on the opposite corner. It was sitting down. There is virtually no traffic that way at that time of night.

What did I see? An old black lady drug user on her last leg? An old tranny? Told a friend about it yesterday morning. They told me I seen the devil. He appears in many forms. I believe them. Anybody else seen this out while roaming? I'm still traumatized by what I saw. I don't scare easy.

[QUOTE=RickMann;5406586]I was talking to her on on another site not texting so I can't "help you. ".[/QUOTE]It seems your private mail is full. Thank you for the nice are e ply out hear in public while being Rudd in private. Remember the word Karma.

[QUOTE=YAskWhy;5406588]This is real talk. I was driving home and got caught at the light at Joyce and 17th Avenue at 1:00 am or so. There was a lady type figure standing there or so I thought. Something didn't look right, so I circled back around. There was this person / thing standing there. It's face was puffy or swollen badly. The hair was like a bad wig, it was all black. The scariest part for me was their eyes were black and hollow. They tried to talk but it was more like a painful groan. I sped off. Like an idiot though I circled back to make sure I was not losing my marbles. This time I was on the opposite corner. It was sitting down. There is virtually no traffic that way at that time of night.

What did I see? An old black lady drug user on her last leg? An old tranny? Told a friend about it yesterday morning. They told me I seen the devil. He appears in many forms. I believe them. Anybody else seen this out while roaming? I'm still traumatized by what I saw. I don't scare easy.[/QUOTE]I haven't seem anything that weird so far but your story gave me chills for some reason because I do see the devil sometimes until I was a catholic and christian but now I don't believe other than aliens. So far I believe they look freaky. May have to drive around that area at that time of night to see if my balls are made of steel or not. Stay safe and drink some coffee!

[QUOTE=VernieHowell;5407113]It seems your private mail is full. Thank you for the nice are e ply out hear in public while being Rudd in private. Remember the word Karma.[/QUOTE]Spell much? I have no info for you in fact the person in question now shows location in GA, you really should get a life and move on.

I hope some of the tips here help the mongers to be more cautious.

1. How LEO finds pictures for their ads: They find pics in various social media accounts or some porn profiles on the web often times outside the US. The faces would not be revealed largely, and no nude and outright sexual pics will be present.

2. When they set up sting ops, they prefer nicer hotels vs. Shitty motels (though not always true, for instance, a month ago, the LEO set up a sting in a motel on Main st. And (I forgot the side street! A small street close to Capital University);.

3. LEO checks, or touching the genitals is the thing of the past--it does not work anymore. If you have text messages implicating you in the potential sex acts, this is enough circumstantial evidence to get you convicted by the jury. Also, in the past, stings were set up in a way where guys would show up in the hotel room, put the money on the desk and then they would be arrested. This is not true anymore. Nowadays when a guy would knock on the hotel door and a woman opens the door, and the guy would enter the room, this fact of entering the room would be enough to imply the agreement to engage in sexual activities (no money on the table needed anymore), particularly if in the text exchanges the guy would indicate the agreement to the price and to the sexual activities-this will be enough to convict you on circumstantial evidence. You can be arrested in the parking lot of the hotel if you have text message exchanges about the agreement to engage in sex and the money you would pay-- no need to go to the room, if you have a phone on you with all the text messages that shows this is you who communicated with the decoy.

4. Do not take any stuff, if asked by the girl, with you to the appointment. This can be condoms (this is the most incriminating thing you can bring with you! Or a drink or a pack of cigs, etc. Also, if you bring enough money, as agreed in the text exchange, that will be evidence against you. Do not leave your phone, or condoms, or any other potential evidence in your vehicle--your car will be arrested and searched as well as you. Remember they will need your phone to establish that this is you who had been communicating with them, and without your phone and its records you cannot be positively identified as the one communicating with LEO. So if you show up in the room without your phone, they will not be able to prove that you are the one who made all the agreements by text.

5. LEO wants to make sure you are not dangerous, so they may ask you to stop by a gas station to buy a pack of cigs or a bottle of Pepsi, and you will be under surveillance all this time--the purpose is to make sure you do not pose substantial risk.

6. Do not directly incriminate yourself with the info that would indicate your sexual intent; be vague or even say I do not want any unlawful activities, I just want to meet for fun, friendship, nonsexual role-play or video-recording; when talking about money be vague and dubious or say you are prepared to compensate for the time and companionship only and nothing else.

Well, I'm down to a few weeks until my long PPG car show weekend.

Some Columbus Bro's have given leads, UTR providers, numbers. But, you play this game long, you know over 85% of all information providers, will not work out.

So, here I write asking again. Not interested in Druggies, fatty's, young. Open to anything else, mature, black, white, Asian, cost no problem, just looking for the experience! So cum on Bro's help needed!

Any more info on the "Swinger club "? Rent a wife for a night?

Side note: Just returned from Aruba,3 weeks, (information to give out).

[QUOTE=RickMann;5407672]Spell much? I have no info for you in fact the person in question now shows location in GA, you really should get a life and move on.[/QUOTE]I am so very, very sorry to offend you once again with my spelling. Unfortunately, the site does not provide for spelling corrections after a post has been made and spell check has attacked it. I tried but I could not correct it. It should have read "It seems your private mail is full. Thank you for the nice reply out here in public while being rude in private. Remember the word Karma. " There you go. Now you can go on with your day and be happy.

Yours, always, Vernie.

[QUOTE=YAskWhy;5406588]This is real talk. I was driving home and got caught at the light at Joyce and 17th Avenue at 1:00 am or so. There was a lady type figure standing there or so I thought. Something didn't look right, so I circled back around. There was this person / thing standing there. It's face was puffy or swollen badly. The hair was like a bad wig, it was all black. The scariest part for me was their eyes were black and hollow. They tried to talk but it was more like a painful groan. I sped off. Like an idiot though I circled back to make sure I was not losing my marbles. This time I was on the opposite corner. It was sitting down. There is virtually no traffic that way at that time of night.

What did I see? An old black lady drug user on her last leg? An old tranny? Told a friend about it yesterday morning. They told me I seen the devil. He appears in many forms. I believe them. Anybody else seen this out while roaming? I'm still traumatized by what I saw. I don't scare easy.[/QUOTE]In the black and white, biblical world, maybe you saw the devil. More than likely, it was an alien (believe it or not) or a transhuman shapeshifter, out for the experience. Only a true 'Blade' vampire hunter would tame her. Think exorcism with the solid shaft of an ArchAngel to ram home the goodness into her lower life form flesh. Not for the hobbyist, nor run-of-the-mill-monger to sample.

A psychic once told me that in my mongering, I was likely meeting alien-women, and that they could be sampling my DNA. An other-worldly thought I still have not comprehended fully (at least, not to change my ways). Overall, I think we each manifest the God or Goddess we contain / believe, and that by mongering we do more than just bless them with our seed, cash, time, words, & listening. They are hear to temper / test our judgment, as are the thug-mongers being around to test their judgment. We are all learning and growing on this planet encircling the sun, moving through the Milky Way from the 7th level to the 6th. What completes our passage is the love we express to all we come in contact with. Not just employers, nor families, but every single grocery clerk or fellow monger making a swoop, or lady earning her next fix (or waiting for a hand-up, to a better life).

[QUOTE=VernieHowell;5407741]I am so very, very sorry to offend you once again with my spelling. Unfortunately, the site does not provide for spelling corrections after a post has been made and spell check has attacked it. I tried but I could not correct it. It should have read "It seems your private mail is full. Thank you for the nice reply out here in public while being rude in private. Remember the word Karma. " There you go. Now you can go on with your day and be happy.

Yours, always, Vernie.[/QUOTE]Man you really need another hobby! Cheers.

[QUOTE=YAskWhy;5406588]This is real talk. I was driving home and got caught at the light at Joyce and 17th Avenue at 1:00 am or so. There was a lady type figure standing there or so I thought. Something didn't look right, so I circled back around. There was this person / thing standing there. It's face was puffy or swollen badly. The hair was like a bad wig, it was all black. The scariest part for me was their eyes were black and hollow. They tried to talk but it was more like a painful groan. I sped off. Like an idiot though I circled back to make sure I was not losing my marbles. This time I was on the opposite corner. It was sitting down. There is virtually no traffic that way at that time of night.

What did I see? An old black lady drug user on her last leg? An old tranny? Told a friend about it yesterday morning. They told me I seen the devil. He appears in many forms. I believe them. Anybody else seen this out while roaming? I'm still traumatized by what I saw. I don't scare easy.[/QUOTE]It was just another addict. Probably been awake for five or six days on meth, been wearing the same clothes for at least a week, and probably not showered in three or four weeks. Nothing supernatural when you see the real horror of addiction and what it can do to a person.

LEO not really interested in convictions and $100 fines, they want to boost arrest counts which feeds directly into local and federal funding. It's like their annual car wash or boot drive. Why do you think Hilliard and Dublin run these expensive ops? They don't need tax money, but justification for their existence. We are easy picking with no real police work needed.

[QUOTE=LDontFkinCare2;5407683]I hope some of the tips here help the mongers to be more cautious.

1. How LEO finds pictures for their ads: They find pics in various social media accounts or some porn profiles on the web often times outside the US. The faces would not be revealed largely, and no nude and outright sexual pics will be present.

2. When they set up sting ops, they prefer nicer hotels vs. Shitty motels (though not always true, for instance, a month ago, the LEO set up a sting in a motel on Main st. And (I forgot the side street! A small street close to Capital University);.

3. LEO checks, or touching the genitals is the thing of the past--it does not work anymore. If you have text messages implicating you in the potential sex acts, this is enough circumstantial evidence to get you convicted by the jury. Also, in the past, stings were set up in a way where guys would show up in the hotel room, put the money on the desk and then they would be arrested. This is not true anymore. Nowadays when a guy would knock on the hotel door and a woman opens the door, and the guy would enter the room, this fact of entering the room would be enough to imply the agreement to engage in sexual activities (no money on the table needed anymore), particularly if in the text exchanges the guy would indicate the agreement to the price and to the sexual activities-this will be enough to convict you on circumstantial evidence. You can be arrested in the parking lot of the hotel if you have text message exchanges about the agreement to engage in sex and the money you would pay-- no need to go to the room, if you have a phone on you with all the text messages that shows this is you who communicated with the decoy.

4. Do not take any stuff, if asked by the girl, with you to the appointment. This can be condoms (this is the most incriminating thing you can bring with you! Or a drink or a pack of cigs, etc. Also, if you bring enough money, as agreed in the text exchange, that will be evidence against you. Do not leave your phone, or condoms, or any other potential evidence in your vehicle--your car will be arrested and searched as well as you. Remember they will need your phone to establish that this is you who had been communicating with them, and without your phone and its records you cannot be positively identified as the one communicating with LEO. So if you show up in the room without your phone, they will not be able to prove that you are the one who made all the agreements by text.

5. LEO wants to make sure you are not dangerous, so they may ask you to stop by a gas station to buy a pack of cigs or a bottle of Pepsi, and you will be under surveillance all this time--the purpose is to make sure you do not pose substantial risk.

6. Do not directly incriminate yourself with the info that would indicate your sexual intent; be vague or even say I do not want any unlawful activities, I just want to meet for fun, friendship, nonsexual role-play or video-recording; when talking about money be vague and dubious or say you are prepared to compensate for the time and companionship only and nothing else.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigLittleMan;5409529]LEO not really interested in convictions and $100 fines, they want to boost arrest counts which feeds directly into local and federal funding. It's like their annual car wash or boot drive. Why do you think Hilliard and Dublin run these expensive ops? They don't need tax money, but justification for their existence. We are easy picking with no real police work needed.[/QUOTE]Alot of what he said in that other post was true but if you show up to a sting op no matter what you're basically guaranteed to be arrested unless you get out of there ASAP and don't say anything. The goal of their operations is to make arrests, and that's what they are going to do. They don't care if its a wrongful arrest. The goal for us is to avoid the situation in the first place, but if we do walk into it make it so they can't get us for soliciting and have to dismiss the charge or reduce to a disorderly conduct. That is accomplished by not texting anything incriminating and not saying word one except "I want an attorney. " This can also be avoided and you can throw a wrench in their plans by having them meet at a bar first in a different jurisdiction. I do this often. Would create a lot more paperwork for them. They could accept the offer, but if they reject the offer they are either a cop or a woman who probably doesn't make many of her own decisions which I wouldn't want anything to do with that either.