[QUOTE=Mich Dog;1867490]Made the drive through Frandor yesterday, man does she look nice.[/QUOTE]She is very nice. Always with her man / BF? He waits in the suv in the parking lot. She wouldn't leave the corner when I tried to scoop her.
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[QUOTE=Mich Dog;1867490]Made the drive through Frandor yesterday, man does she look nice.[/QUOTE]She is very nice. Always with her man / BF? He waits in the suv in the parking lot. She wouldn't leave the corner when I tried to scoop her.
Wonder if that means that she's done with leaving the premises for private session?
[QUOTE=RobBall;1871373]She is very nice. Always with her man / BF? He waits in the suv in the parking lot. She wouldn't leave the corner when I tried to scoop her.[/QUOTE]
Hello all. Long time monger first time posting.
I wanted to report on the zoo stroll. I get out of work around midnight and I usually make my way down and back k-zoo before I go home.
This week has been a bust. Literally Monday night police everywhere! Tuesday night something was going down on the north end of town off OK Lansing road. And Wednesday night (now) there are no SW in sight.
I will keep trying.
One more thing. I use to know / work with Cory. She was a beautiful girl, had everything going for her and then got into drugs. Makes me sad to see her this way. She is WAY skinny and looks rough from the photos I have seen. She was always a nice girl. And I hope to catch her someday soon.
Oh. Also, her sister is one of Lansing's finest. Just an FYI.
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1871631]Wonder if that means that she's done with leaving the premises for private session?[/QUOTE]It's that or I lost my touch in scooping a panhandler, or she has to be without her man waiting in the SUV.
[QUOTE=Waxon1; 1870858]Don't forget south Washington from the old bus station down into Reotown, also around the State Journal and Cherry Hill St. Off of Kalamazoo. Nothing better than a cherry hill hooker.
LOL.[/QUOTE]You are correct, around the Old bus station and around the park on the West side of Capital Ave. I recall a favorite that used to work the Bar at the hotel by the park. I can not recall the name. A state Rep was busted in a sting at the park, they used to be back in the neighborhood around the Y. Another LOL
[QUOTE=Mr Buebird;1872359]You are correct, around the Old bus station and around the park on the West side of Capital Ave. I recall a favorite that used to work the Bar at the hotel by the park. I can not recall the name. A state Rep was busted in a sting at the park, they used to be back in the neighborhood around the Y. Another LOL[/QUOTE]I recall the Hotel was the Capital Park, used to pick them up in the parking lot.
[QUOTE=RobBall;1872255]It's that or I lost my touch in scooping a panhandler, or she has to be without her man waiting in the SUV.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what the ACTUAL story is, but:
I ran into hispanic Jaimie yesterday and somehow we ended up discussing our clipper girl. She claims to be a friend of hers and knew her by name without my mentioning it. For whatever that's worth. She claims that our Clippert girl (and her boyfriend) are addicted to Heroin. I'm, not sure I buy this, having seen ALL of her wonderfully naked I didn't notice any of the marks typical of a heroin user. That said, it might explain her erratic behavior, she's definitely down for a private session, but with all of the LE going on down the zoo and across town lately it's entirely possible that she's just gotten spooked, especially if they are friends and she's heard about this that and the other from Jaimie.
On another note, has anyone else noticed the new girl who's showed up on Michigan just west of 127 where Gui-Tarzan likes to play? She's got a scar, birthmark, or something or other on her forehead, but might have potential for mongering pleasure? Not an awesome frame but a little curvy, she actually looks the part of homeless, her jeans were pretty filthy the other day when I drove by, might be worth a shot.
Careful out there last night there was an arsehole taking pictures of people stopping to scoop up talent he was in a black f150 FYI.
Took a drive down the zoo today, saw a better then average young blond. She was walking extremely slow, passed by a few times finally pulled up to talk to her. She walked up to my car and said " before I even get in, I don't go lower then 60 " I said "oh" and drove away. Sure didn't seem right to me. Saw an older Hispanic gal assuming that's the Jamie I read about. She has a nice smile, might invite her to dinner. Is she good company?
[QUOTE=Kumgo;1875477]Careful out there last night there was an arsehole taking pictures of people stopping to scoop up talent he was in a black f150 FYI.[/QUOTE]A good way to get rid of said arseholes is to park right in front of them, as far from the curb as necessary to ensure that you block their view. If they pull away, follow them around until they really leave the area. Worse case scenario they are LE and question you, just reply that someone taking photos didn't look right to you. Perhaps you have friends who live in the area with kids etc.
Or if you're a real A-Hole (like myself) pull right up in front of their vehicle facing them and kick on the KC Lights right in their face until they get the point. Just sayin'
If you're less willing to invoke wrath or arrest park a ways down the road facing them with your headlights on, that'll interfere with just about any camera. Act like you're checking your phone for texts or emails etc. See how long they're willing to wait you out!
[QUOTE=Galaxie;1876188]Took a drive down the zoo today, saw a better then average young blond. She was walking extremely slow, passed by a few times finally pulled up to talk to her. She walked up to my car and said " before I even get in, I don't go lower then 60 " I said "oh" and drove away. Sure didn't seem right to me. Saw an older Hispanic gal assuming that's the Jamie I read about. She has a nice smile, might invite her to dinner. Is she good company?[/QUOTE]I bet that was BP Kelly, she changes from her natural brown to blonde and back fairly often. She doesn't post much these days but has started to roam the Zoo rather frequently. She's not worth a Jackson in my book, just lays there and looks angry to be alive the entire time.
This her?
[url]http://lansing.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/something-sweet-you-wont-forget-incall-and-outcall-specials-19/12669932[/url]
The Hispanic gal was probably Jaimie, she's friendly, accommodating, and worth a go-round.
[QUOTE=Galaxie;1876188]She walked up to my car and said " before I even get in, I don't go lower then 60 " I said "oh" and drove away.[/QUOTE]I didn't think to comment on this with my last post but this attitude directly represents what I was referring to in post #1348 under Backpage Advertiser Reviews, where I wrote;
"I personally don't think ANY provider should earn a wage higher than someone who works for a living, which should price them around $15-$25 for a half-hour and $30-$50 for an hour."
These girls are putting out this attitude because guys are paying them these rates. You did the right thing man, if she wants that type of pay she should seriously consider law or med school. Anyone can do her "job" with no training whatsoever, in the real world this equals minimum wage. I say it again fellas, don't agree to anything over a Jackson for any of the girls walking the street. Even on BP very few of them are worth 40. If everyone starts taking the hardline stance that you did the attitude of these girls will change. Sooner or later they will get hungry and humility will bring them to the realization that their stuff is not dripping golden honey!
For those thinking me heartless, and about to write a scathing response I ask how many of you are making $30-$50 per hour? This is still over-paying by the standards of honest work.
[QUOTE=RoyGrisham; 1876397]I didn't think to comment on this with my last post but this attitude directly represents what I was referring to in post #1348 under Backpage Advertiser Reviews, where I wrote;
"I personally don't think ANY provider should earn a wage higher than someone who works for a living, which should price them around $15-$25 for a half-hour and $30-$50 for an hour."
These girls are putting out this attitude because guys are paying them these rates. You did the right thing man, if she wants that type of pay she should seriously consider law or med school. Anyone can do her "job" with no training whatsoever, in the real world this equals minimum wage. I say it again fellas, don't agree to anything over a Jackson for any of the girls walking the street. Even on BP very few of them are worth 40. If everyone starts taking the hardline stance that you did the attitude of these girls will change. Sooner or later they will get hungry and humility will bring them to the realization that their stuff is not dripping golden honey!
For those thinking me heartless, and about to write a scathing response I ask how many of you are making $30-$50 per hour? This is still over-paying by the standards of honest work.[/QUOTE]Roy-
Don't want to open up a can of worms but I wonder if we simply have different standards for determining a provider's value. The reason that providers can demand significantly above minimum wage is not that they have unique abilities. It is because they are WILLING. If every girl was willing to have sex with me I would pay the minimum but the simple fact is that few young hotties are willing to have sex with an old guy like me. When I find one who will, I am prepared to compensate them accordingly.
How much is too much? I don't know but each of us may have differing price resistance threshholds. Just today, while out west for a conference, I found a provider that was well-reviewed and willing to see me in my hotel room with a minimum of screening. We had a delightful time together. An erotic shower together, a nude lap dance, DATY, BBBJ, FIV and CFS. When we were finished we realized that neither of us had raised the matter of the expected donation. While her reviews seemed to suggest a flexible range, I had prepared an envelope with a donation at the high end. She was fine with this and so was I even though she had earned more than double my hourly wage. Was I being exploited or was she? I believe we eached received market value. You may disagree but I was not willing to ask random girls on the streets of Denver if they would have sex with me for $7. 25. Happy mongering, guys.
[QUOTE=RoyGrisham; 1876261]I bet that was BP Kelly, she changes from her natural brown to blonde and back fairly often. She doesn't post much these days but has started to roam the Zoo rather frequently. She's not worth a Jackson in my book, just lays there and looks angry to be alive the entire time.[/quote]Yep, that's her. She certainly had a bad attitude. Glad I didn't waste my time.
This is an age-old question that I don't know if anyone will ever agree on and where it would take a much larger group that us to truly sway the market. When you really think about it, the range of what is paid to different types of girls who are packaged differently is really astonishing. The top-end is much, much higher than 99 percent of us would pay. We obviously know that in Vegas, L. A, New York, other big cities, there are porn stars and other uber-hotties that command $1000 and more per session. But I will never believe that means I'm going to have 10x a better experience than the $100 gal I might get lucky to find on BP locally that will give me a good GFE experience. There's a lot of relativity involved or however you want to term it.
For me, I just won't pay more than about $200 for anyone, and if I do pay more than $120, she better be very good and easy on the eyes, too. But like many of us, there's times I felt like I overpaid and other times where I felt like I got a bargain. I'd love to think we could collectively bring the market down to $50 an hour or less, but I just don't see it happening. The number of mongers out there, even in Lansing, is much larger than those of us who read and post here. Could we have an impact of we all worked together? Maybe, but doubtful that it would truly change things. So I'm kinda in the middle on this.
[QUOTE=Otto22; 1876565]Roy-
Don't want to open up a can of worms but I wonder if we simply have different standards for determining a provider's value. The reason that providers can demand significantly above minimum wage is not that they have unique abilities. It is because they are WILLING. If every girl was willing to have sex with me I would pay the minimum but the simple fact is that few young hotties are willing to have sex with an old guy like me. When I find one who will, I am prepared to compensate them accordingly.
How much is too much? I don't know but each of us may have differing price resistance threshholds. Just today, while out west for a conference, I found a provider that was well-reviewed and willing to see me in my hotel room with a minimum of screening. We had a delightful time together. An erotic shower together, a nude lap dance, DATY, BBBJ, FIV and CFS. When we were finished we realized that neither of us had raised the matter of the expected donation. While her reviews seemed to suggest a flexible range, I had prepared an envelope with a donation at the high end. She was fine with this and so was I even though she had earned more than double my hourly wage. Was I being exploited or was she? I believe we eached received market value. You may disagree but I was not willing to ask random girls on the streets of Denver if they would have sex with me for $7. 25. Happy mongering, guys.[/QUOTE]